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states. >> we deal with kerry matheson trying to operate at an even more intense level as she gets more intelligence but working from further outside the cia. >> reporter: but don't press for more. after all, some things are meant to be kept secret. >> i'm not telling you anything more than that. >> reporter: suzanne kelly, cnn, aspen, colorado. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, breaking news on the suspect in the colorado movie theater massacre and his mental state. plus, a possible mass shooting plot foiled. a maryland man in custody tonight who police say had an arsenal of weapons who also called himself a joker. and is the next fukushima disaster waiting to happen along the california coast? let's go "outfront."
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. we have breaking news on colorado's shooting suspect james holmes. cnn has learned holmes was seeing a university of colorado psychiatrist before the attack last friday, which left 12 dead and 58 wounded. the new information is coming to light now because lawyers for holmes are asking authorities to hand over a package that holmes had sent to his psychiatrist. this package was discovered in the university's medical campus mailroom on monday. and it included a letter that contained references to shooting people and drawings of a gunman and his victims. according to cbs news. we now know the package was addressed to dr. lynne fenton, the director of student mental health at the university of colorado. a resume posted on the university's website says fenton sees between 15 to 20 graduate students each week for medication and psychotherapy.
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she also serves as a psychiatrist, seeing between 5 and 10 patients according, again, to that resume. in a court filing, holmes public defender said, quote, the materials contained in that package include communications from mr. holmes to dr. fenton that mr. holmes asserts are privileged. mr. holmes was a psychiatric patient of dr. fenton and his communications with her are protected. "outfront" tonight, drew griffin, who has been investigating this story. good to see you. let me just ask you what you think the significance is of this package, the letter and the court fing, where they're saying this is privileged. >> well, i think the significance is we now know that holmes, this person who's accused in this horrendous crime, was seeing a campus psychiatrist before the shooting took place, erin. and what does that entail? we don't know. there will be a lot of questions not only from prosecutors but from so many families as to what that communication, what that treatment was for. what was holmes telling his
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doctor about what was going on in his head? and the logical question is, what, if anything, should or could that doctor have said or done to try to intervene in what was this horrendous event. >> with her there, right, that there could have been images of someone shooting people. are there any indications from your understanding the university was trying to obfuscate, hide, anything about this communication or this relationship with the psychiatrist? >> we have been chasing this very lead for several, several days now. and getting fairly stone walled by authorities who believe -- they university, i should say, who are believed to be trapped under a gag order, in place by the court here. i do want to tell you on monday we directly asked the police chief of the campus in a news conference they had directly about any contact whatsoever the
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school had with james holmes, about james holmes. in fact, listen to this text change from that news conference. chief abraham, did your doctor or any of your officers have any interaction with this student whatsoever? >> i don't have any information on him at all. >> -- records check on him? >> yes. as you already know, i think there was a traffic ticket from aurora. that's it for us, them and everyone. >> nobody ever brought him to your attention in any way -- >> we've had no contact with him on a criminal matter whatsoever as a police department. >> erin, yesterday, a spokesman for the university said, you know what, the chief wasn't being forth right with you. in fact, here's what they told us out of concern with violating the court order, the chief didn't answer the questions directly. so the question is, what did the school know? if they didn't answer that question directly, did that mean they did know he was seeing this
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psychiatrist, that there was any kind of warnings? all of that is going to come out as this court case moves forward. obviously, a big development today that this guy was seeking mental health at the school before the shooting. >> certainly raises a lot of questions out who knew what, when and liability. thanks so much to drew griffin who's been investigating this. in maryland today, there were echoes of last week's colorado attack. police say neil edwin pros scott is in custody after he allegedly called himself a joker and threat bed to, quote, load my guns and blow everyone up. prescott allegedly made the threats in a phone call as he was being fired from his job at a software company. when people -- when police searched his home this morning, they found a cache of 25 guns, mostly automatic rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition. "outfront," prince georges county police chief. i asked him how serious he thinks these threats were. >> i think it was very serious.
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and we went and -- 36-hour investigation. and on the statements that were made, our interview with him, another agency close to us, he was very serious, in my opinion. something that we could not walk away from. >> and what types of guns did he have? we were talking with -- you had some he had 25 guns, lots of ammunition. what sort of an arsenal did you fine? >> he had 25 weapons in his home. most of them automatic weapons. several automatic rifles. thousands of rounds of ammunition. atf has that -- or those weapons now and are categorizing them, checking for ownership on those weapons as we speak. >> how would -- how easy is it to obtain thousands of rounds of ammunition? is there any situation where you can think of where anybody would have that in some sort of a normal existence?
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>> well, you can -- you can get ammunition online. there's several different ways to get th type of ammunition. i would say very few people have that much automatic weapons ammunition. >> but obviously were you surprised as a law enforcement official someone could have amassed all of this and 25 automatic weapons without being noticed? i know you said the atf is checking the registration. were you shocked? >> i was surprised by the number of weapons that were in the house and just how lethal these weapons are. the amount he had was enormous. >> now, sir, i know you said people are talking about how he referred to himself as the joker. which could have been a reference to -- people are saying is a reference obviously to the shooting in colorado. do you think this was a -- obviously, some sort of a copycat attack, even though it would seem he obviously would have amassed these weapons prior to the colorado event? >> well, when he said that he
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made reference to the joker, we took this very, very seriously and moved quickly to have him evaluated mentally. but that's the way we took it. that he was making reference to colorado. >> now, i'm just curious, because i know you've been very careful with the words you used, that he is in custody. as opposed to using it e ining "arrested." i guess a lot of people are going to ask tonight, are you going to be able to charge him? is it possible someone could have had this arsenal, he didn't go out and shoot anybody and he could walk free? >> well, that's being looked at right now at the state's attorney's office. also on a federal level. so we're looking at every angle and every criminal aspect to charge this individual if it's appropriate. but our first and immediate response was to get him mental help if that's what he needed.
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>> if it's appropriate, you do intend to do erything you can to press charges, is that fair to say? >> absolutely. absolutely. there's charges pending right now, yes, ma'am. >> there are charges pending right now. you do anticipate you're going to making charges when, tomorrow, tonight? >> those charges are now being reviewed and they're pending the state's attorney at the local level's review. >> something else i want to ask you about. when police first encountered prescott, he had a t-shirt on that said, "guns don't kill people, i do." is that true? >> yes, ma'am. when county went initially yesterday to interview this individual, he did have that t-shirt on. >> frightening story. still "outfront," the power of money. amazon ceo's jeff bezos.
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and one county official forced to resign over botched sexual assault investigations. and yet he's going to take home nearly $300,000. does that add up? and the biggest conventional bomb in the american arsenal is finally ready for use. why it's being talked about as a possible weapon in a war with iraq. e south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an ao insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62%
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now our second story "outfront." the ceo of amazon today made the
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biggest ever publicly reported donation to a same-sex marriage campaign. jeff bezos and his wife announced they're giving $2 million to an organization that defends same-sex marriage in washington state. the organization says that donation, no shock, is a game changer. but is it right for one person to have such outsized influence over a hot button issue? maybe it just depends whether you like his point of view or not. jamel simmons and rei han salam joins me. maybe if they don't like the point of view, they would feel differently. >> i think that's right. for others, i think this shows it's probably too much money swishing around in politics in general. it would be great if we could have limits on how much someone can give to a political campaign so real people, average american, can have their say without being overwhelmed by the
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power of one outside person. that said, since we live in the position we're in, the good guys have a right to say what it is they want to say with their money. and we as consumers don't want to use their site or go to their restaurants, then we don't have to go there. we can vote with our feet. >> interesting. jamal, you make a fair point. most people can't give $2 million or any fraction of that to anything that they believe in. >> right. >> so jeff bezos and people giving general donations, they are influencing the political system. >> i would love for us to have a system and i have supported people who believe in this where people cannot give more than -- let's pick an amount, someone smarter than me can pick the amount, but they don't give more than that and then average citizens can have their own say. >> the president of chick-fil-a was blasted this week for his point of view on gay marriage. there have been donations as well.
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on his stand against gay marriage. that caused a big brouhaha. didn't hear any brouhaha today. >> that's a good point. when you see a lot of the conservatives who are outraged with what happened with chick-fil-a's ceo. it was the same exact thing. there were folks who were saying, hey, let's use the zoning process to say this group of people shouldn't be able to build this facility that represents values that we don't share. then i think the issue is, should you be allowed to use zoning laws. should you be allowed to use those powers of the state in order to regulate what different organizations can and can't say. >> people raise hell when they don't like something. but when they support it, it's suddenly okay. especially you've got jeff bezos supporting gay marriage -- >> you've had a ton of republicans donors including some who backed a swift boat veterans for truth.
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and suddenly these guys, who used to be demonized, they used to be terrible bad guys, they suddenly became heroes. i think it's all about where you sit on this particular issue. partly because when you talk about political spending, what counts as political spending? what about when you, let's say, make a movie that expresses a particular political point of view. or churches and synagogues across the country, that's not considered political spending. when you turn certain things that weren't political issues into political issues, then almost any kind of spending becomes quote/unquote political spending. that's why i'm very concerned about efforts to regulate quote/unquote political speech because it can really be anything. >> jamal. >> we can't have a society where we're protected from all of the possible ills that could come into play. what we can do is have a society, a system where in politics, a campaign, issues on the ballot, people can only give a certain amount of money and then the rest of that can be
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done by every amount of effort and speak out publicly as an individual but maybe not just with your cash. >> he has a fair point. this way, whether you have a point of view of i love gay marriage or i hate it, if you're rich, you get hurt. if you're not, you don't. >> i actually think it's not quite the right way to think about it. are super duper influential. let's say you're a celebrity. >> okay, but they're still in that elite circle. >> that's fair enough, erin, but here's the thing if you're a celebrity, you can leverage your influence and fame in order to advance particular causes. and so they use their money in order to have the same influence. if you're really charismatic and broke, you can get other rich people to get you elected to office. >> most people still can't get anybody to do anything for them. >> that's absolutely true. more people who are charismatic. trying to silence people who
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our third story "outfront." a top official in orange county, california, resigns amid criticism about how he handled allegations that an employee sexually assaulted other employees. so what does he get? well, in return for exiting his job as chief executive of the county, he's getting a golden parachute, severance package of $270,000. migu miguel is "outfront" tonight. tell me about the controversial and about the assault.
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>> well, the controversy is this guy is getting a payout. had they just dismissed him, he probably would have got be a lot more, so they felt they had to do it and there was no good position. there was an investigation into carlos, a city councilman. several other officials in county government there have gone, since charges were brought. he was charged with sexually assaulting and battery against seven women who had previously worked for him. but people in orange county, now that they've heard about this payout, are outraged. the local union boss there is saying that people -- that work for him would not get nearly what this guy got. >> employees, like every other employee in america, when they lose their job, rank and file
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people, the only thing they get is the door. in this case getting $270,000 has the employees completely so upset that, you know, they're calling for resignations. they're trying to get the federal government involved. they don't trust anybody in government now. it's turned into a complete disaster. >> so the officials down there do say that the details of why exactly he was dismissed are still not entirely clear. but a very open secret that it was over this investigation. and everything that happened with that. several employees in orange county have either been dismissed or left in recent weeks since those charges were brought. erin. >> all right, miguel, thank you very much. appreciate it. ahead "outfront," why does america need a 30,000-pound bomb? we can confirm now, tested and
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about, where we focus on our reporting from the front lines. the dow closed above 13,000. it's the first time that's happened since may. it was up 188 points. 2% for the s&p. now, stocks rose on speculation that the european central bank might get involved to try to ease the seemingly never ending european debt crisis. it was interesting the stocks were up so much, given it was a horrific day for facebook, an all-time low it t. the stock closed down another 11% today. it has been in total free fall. next week will be crucial to see if the markets can hold it together. we've got a fed meeting and the employment numbers for the month of july. in its earnings report, british bank barclays apologized for the interest rate manipulation scandal that cost its ceo its job and resulted in a $450 million settlement with regulators. the company reported pretax
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profits of $6.6 billion for the first half of the year. we reviewed the report closely. a couple things stuck out to us. the company says four current and senior employees are still under investigation by uk regulators. and that the bank is now facing class action lawsuits in the united states. the u.n. has now called for immediate action to tackle the humanitarian crisis in mali. the organization says the crisis is being driven by a lack of food, malnutrition and population displacement. accord to the u.n., only 42% of the $14 million it says it needs now to fight the crisis has been received. echoing what we heard from the world food organization. the interim president of mali just returned to the country after being assaulted in his office. says he's going to address the nation on sunday. of course his government has lost control of the country's north which is controlled by al qaeda-linked militias. if you want to help the people of mali, we've partnered with the nonprofit organization save the children to send food and medicine to the refugees.
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you can visit our blog at cnn.com/outfront to find out more and there's even a link to send the kids soccer balls if you want. the economy grew at a slower pace in the second quarter. the commerce department reported the economy grew at 1.5%. that was the second quarter number. tad bit better than expected. below the 2% in the first quarter. and not a high enough number to create jobs. economists we spoke to said the reason for the short fall was consumer spending. they also pointed to uncertainty about the so-called fiscal cliff. dan greenhouse of btig said it pretty well. quote, the u.s. economy which is already being depressed by the lingering effects of the recession is being held hostage by politics. it's been 358 days since this country lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? standard & poor's got in the olympic spirit today. reaffirming britain's aaa credit rating. now, our fourth story "outfront." the bunker buster is ready. we're going to show it to you right now.
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this is what it can do. this is the biggest weapon in the american military's arsenal. it's known as a massive ordnance penetrator or a m.o.p. for short. when the air force secretary was asked if the bomb was ready he said, quote, if it needed to go today, we'd be ready to do than that. there are 20 of these bombs that have been made. each of the bombs is more than 20 feet long. each of the bombs weighs about 30,000 pounds. and one of the weapon's primary missions is to pulver size bunkers that could be up to 200 feet below the surface. there is a particular country the u.s. is worried about that has such facilities. that's iran. there's a problem. those bunker busters may not even be powerful enough to destroy whatever may be deep underneath the surface in iran. they have an upgrade already in the works. this is importanto note this comes as "the washington post" reports that iran is building up its military arsenal with missiles that could potentially
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hit american ships stationed in the persian gulf. our pentagon correspondent p barbara starr. colonel, let me start with you. we've talked about these huge bombs before. how significant are these bombs? and do you think there should be concern they may not even be, despite their enormous size, big enough to deal with potential issues out there? >> well, they are huge, as you mentioned, erin. the big thing here is the iranians have developed several techniques for hardening concre concrete. the fact the concrete has been hardened through special techniques means that any type of conventional wisdom is going to have a really tough time getting after that hardened target as they call them. in this case the technical term is hardened and deeply buried targets. the iranians are masters not only at hardening the concrete and they actually study that at their universities but the other part of it is they have buried their bunkers where they're creating a lot of their nuclear
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weapons deeply underground, places like parchin, all of those. many of the installations we're interested in are underground. >> do you have a sense of what that upgrade might be? 30,000 pounds becomes what? >> well, the weight probably stays the same in most cases. but what happens is the targeting is improved and the type of ordinance that is att h attached to the bomb, explosive charge related to the bomb, actually becomes a more powerful charge. and so it's a matter of creating a more powerful charge to do the job we think it needs to could do. >> barbara, let me ask you, we saw this reporting about what iran is doing and the u.s. having these massive ordnance penetrators. has there been a marked build-up? >> well, there has been, erin. the thinking is that if israel or the u.s. were to attack iran's nuclear program, pardon me, iran, iran retaliates by shutting down the oil lanes in
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the strait of hormuz, economic disaster. when you talk about whether the iranians could challenge those battle groups, sure, you know, they could punch through some defenses. but let's look at the defenses. two aircraft carrier battle groups. aircraft carriers these days are equipped with all of these things you see here , anti-aircraft, anti-missile systems, radar guided guns. systems that can attack anti-ship cruise missiles that the iranians could launch at them. besides the aircraft carriers which have 100 or more combat aircraft. amongst them, there are cruisers and destroyers equipped with advance radars. perhaps most importantly, though, mine sweepers. because the theory is that the iranians could have a temporary advantage. they put a mine in the water. a ship, a cargo ship, an oil tanker hits it, that's going to
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send insurance rates sky high and really provoke a crisis in the a markets till the navy can get those waters cleared. >> it does sound impregnable in many ways. could iran really mount a challenge, with everything those ships carry? >> every type of surface combatant, as the navy ships are called, is vulnerable to some degree. of course, these are massive ships. as barbara was enumerated all the different parts of the navy fleet in the persian gulf, those are very, very hard targets for the iranians to get at. they'll try to go at them asymmetrically. they'll use various devices, various methods, various techniques, to go after these ships in a way that is hard to detect. they will try to do it. they will try to swarm these ships through smaller vessels that they have, very small vessels they can use. they can create a lot of havoc.
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they can create "uss cole"-type incidents and that's what we want to avoid. >> i'm just purely curious from a technical perspective. where do they test those 30,000-pound m.o.p.s? >> states like mexico, nevada. they will be used in very, very precise areas, where they can actually measure their effectiveness against concrete and other things they're interested in. >> all right. interesting to learn the defenses we have from barbara but also they study concrete hardening in iran universities. is a nuclear power plant in california about to be the next fukushima? actually met to talk about design flaws in the american plans and tried to learn lessons from the meltdown in japan, the nuclear plant, which is located about an hour outside of l.a., is raising major red flags tonight. cnn's kyung lah is "outfront" on the story. >> reporter: fire crews scramble
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to the nuclear plant in southern california in january. responding to a small radioactive release of steam. the reactor was immediately shut down and remains offline seven months later. the plant operator says there was no radiation released to the community. but this safety scare renewed calls to shut down the ageing nuclear plant in earthquake prone california. >> why are we living with these risks? these crazy risks? >> and an expensive one. 700 million was authorized for replacement of steam generators just two years ago. the same ones that are faulty. the cost was passed on to customers. the big question now, throw more money to fix it or replace it to keep the reactors going? a place prone to quakes? southern california edison says the plant can withstand a 7.0 tremor five miles from the plant. but it sits next to a fault capable of a 7.5 or higher.
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quak, plus aging reactors. activists call that a danger to the 8 million people within the 50-mile radius of the plant. >> if we were to let things go as they've gone in the past, it's very likely we would experience a fukushima right here in southern california. >> all right, kyung is with me now. it's very likely we could experience another fukushima in southern california. is that a fair characterization? >> well there are certainly parallels. earthquake country, nuclear reactors. kws about the nuclear oversight from the citizens there. there are parallels. i can tell you from having been inside fukushima, to see the power of what happens when nuclear energy goes wrong, i can tell you that before fukushima, people were saying this would never happen in japan. nuclear energy could never do this. but a triple meltdown happened in japan. it is absolutely possible. we have to make sure the safety buffer is there.
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>> one thing people are saying is the reactors are offline. >> no, not so fast. spent fuel is radioactive for tens of thousands of years. one of the big problems at fukushima was reactor number four. that was a hydrogen explosion there. it was offline. >> which is one of the worst things that happened at fukushima, right? >> absolutely. so spent fuel is a big issue. >> so what can be done in southern california? >> what they need to do is to figure out what are they going to do for this immediate problem? are we going to pass this on to the ratepayers? it's something that gets to the heart the problem. people don't want to pay more in their electricity. but nuclear energy is part of the equation. if you want to make sure nuclear energy is safe, unfortunately, people have to pay more or look at other alternatives. >> kyung, thank you very much. pretty frightening report there. a lot of people obviously when you think about the number of people that live near that, really frightening to think about. still ahead, it's been a big
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our fifth story "outfront." violence in congo. today, rebel forces and army troops fought another battle. 200,000 people have been forced from their homes due to violence in the country. reported rains are up 75% in congo this year. this is a country obviously where most rains are not reported. a country already known as the rape capital of the world. the u.s. government has accused nehboring rwanda of arming and supporting the rebels after a 75-page u.n. report laid out the evidence. rwanda's president paul kagame was the man who ended the genocide in rwanda which killed nearly 1 million people. something which makes these allegations more significant. in an exclusive interview with paul kagame, i asked him if the accusations were true. >> it's not true. it's actually ridiculous.
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i give you a feel why i'm saying that. the addendum that was -- that is being referred to is part of the new report that the u.n. does. has collected. people have collected information from just one side. they collected information from the government officials. intelligence people. people they choose on the ground there. >> they're on the ground, they say they have pictures. >> wait a minute. you see, i hope people can just be fair. it's not even very complicated. i'm really surprised people called experts can make a report this way. for example, next to it, these experts are coming here to rwanda. what is bringing them is actually to hear from our side
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and from our story. which they should have done in the first place. how do you compare by so many thins happening by so many people? you listen to one side and compare the report. that's all i'm saying. it's ridiculous. it doesn't make sense. >> when they talk to your side, it's going to show? >> proof there's no involvement. you see, because there is no reason even if you look at the recent history. why it -- at all. there is no sense in it. it's just hearsay. it's told by so-and-so who was told by so-and-so. there's nothing. >> one thing though that struck me when i arrived in this country, i always noticed this when you check into a hotel, right, there's sometimes a picture of a leader on the wall. and there's a picture of you on
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the wall in the hotels i've been here. big pictures of you. the other place i always see that of course is the middle east. i remember seeing it in tunisia and across the middle east. >> in this whole of africa, you will find it. the whole of this africa. >> a lot of the criticisms that come though is maybe it's not -- thatp s in more autocratic societies. more, you know, less democratic societies. you don't see it in europe. you don't see it in the united states. >> well, i don't know -- >> i mean, you do get elected with 95% of the vote. >> yes. that is -- recently, i was seeing approval ratings. in europe where they're supposed to be democratic. and the approval ratings were over 90%. i'm sure if we went into details, you would want to give me the context or tried to justify it. but i wish you reason the same way when you're dealing with rwanda or africa. you have the context.
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and -- >> the context is that democracy is different here? you get 95. >> that's right. so there is a particular percentage that is democratic and the other not. if tomorrow obama was elected by 90%, i'm sure would shift the meaning to that. >> people would say rigged the vote. >> i'm not sure there is a particular percentage people need to have in times of how they're elected in order to be democratic. so i don't know, you know, in our particular case. for example, the turnout. the turnout. people going out to vote was 97%. forget about the vote by which i won. but does the 97% tell you the story? it tells you a story that for us
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in rwanda we're at a different stage than the united states or any other place. because for example, in asia, the turnout might be 30% or 40%. but it has been a different percentage at a different time. i'm sure 20 years ago, even at the beginning of democracy of the united states -- >> so when -- >> just a moment. at the beginning of the democracy of the united states after one of your presidents was elected by consensus, not by a vote. >> so you're saying your country's still young. >> absolutely. so the context is entirely different. >> so when your term is up, you're going to leave? >> yes. >> for sure? >> i don't see why anybody would doubt that. >> and now to tonight's outer circle where we reach out to our sources around the world. to syria tonight, the city of aleppo has become a batground for what the regime is calling the mother of all battles between government forces and rebels. ivan watson is on the ground in
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syria. i asked him how the rebels are faring in the fight. >> reporter: erin, rebel commanders tell us they've sent thousands of fighters into aleppo and they've captured a number of neighborhoods there. they also say the government is starting to ring the city with security forces, with the military. and they're preparing for what they anticipate will be a major offensive to try to flush the armed opposition out of these opposition-held neighborhoods. some commanders have told us they have set up field clinics in homes in the city to treat the wounded when the fighting intensifies. they've assigned drivers and cars on every street to ferry the wounded to these informal medical centers. when i asked one commander, do you have enough ammunition to withstand a government offensive, he very quickly said no. then he went on to say aleppo will eventually look like the
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city of homs. that's a famous syrian city that endured months of bombardment. that saw entire neighborhoods destroyed. i was stunned to see this rebel commander. a very stern man from aleppo who hardly ever smiles. he got up and grabbed a tissue and sat down and quietly wept as if the realization that his city was likely to be destroyed had finally set in. erin. >> thanks very much to ivan. the best athletes from around the world have gathered in london and something historic happened at the opening ceremony. we know what it is and we're going to show you next. why not try someplace different every morning? get two times the points on dining in restaurants with chase sapphire preferred. by what's getting done. measure commitment the twenty billion dollars bp committed has helped fund economic and environmental recovery.
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all right. we just want to let you know we know who lit the olympic torch. sir steve redgrave. olympic rower. he handed off the torch to sev up and coming british athletes who did the actual honor. the olympics are under way formally. archery first became an olympic sport more than 100 years ago. it's been held in every olympics since 1972. today history was made. a new world record set by im
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dong-hyun of north korea. the old record was 696, which he set. here's what makes this really amazing. im dong hyun legally blind. he says all he can see is a blob of yellow color on the target. which brings me to the number tonight, 76. that's how many yards he had to shoot. a man legally blind setting a world record in archery. and something else historic happened at the opening ceremony today. for the first time ever, the countries of qatar and brunei had women carry their flags. mass ya bruhusan from brunei. were both honored with their country's highest olympic honor. qatar and brunei as well as saudi arabia are also letting women compete in the olympics for the first time ever. now at this year's olympics in london, arab women will be competing in everything from running to tae kwon do and
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weight lifting, even sharp shooting. it seems everybody's supportive of it. in addition to allowing a female athlete to carry its flag, qatar is hosting a major celebration of the world's female athletes. sotheby's in london is hosting an exhibition which features images of 50 arab women sports athletes. they hail from 20 different countries. that is something to celebrate. but it is very important to remember that this is just a step not a destination. and since qatar had a woman carry its flag today and is also a sponsor of that exhibit, it's fair to single out qatar when we talk about the arab world having a long way to go when it comes to women. there is only one female judge in qatar. it has no law specifically criminalizing domestic violence. that is amazing. a woman's testimony is less than a man during trial. if a woman is allowed to testify at all. in many family law cases like divorce and women a