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that is the message from ukraine's president. as a new war crimes investigation is launched. the incredibly disturbing video now being shared these stories and more on cnn news, central. happening now . the air over richmond, indiana , is being called toxic as a recycling plant. fire continues to smolder. officials say it could be days before the flames are completely out roughly 2000 people in order to evacuate their homes with the thick black smoke billowing schools in the area are closed and a shelter in place order is in effect. sarah spoke to the epa administrator just moments ago. our goal is to ensure that this community stays safe. and so we've been on site since the beginning, and we're going to stay there until we can

assure that this community is not seeing any threats from the air quality implications here. cnn's omar jimenez is live on the scene, omar, we can see you worry a mask. i heard you at a news conference a short time ago . what are they telling you about the air quality right now? yeah when it comes to the air quality that concern here is particular. it's from smoke matter at this point. obviously in the plume itself, they say that that is where the toxicity is. but as far as the ground level air, which of course, is what people would be breathing smoke is the real issue. so that's part of why we're wearing this mask. i want to give you a glimpse of what this fire is looking at in the daylight. you can see the epicenter of sorts of where this fire has been burning from. this is where a lot of the fire crews have been placing some of their attention throughout the morning and they have been placing a lot of water here. they've now moved to a separate part of the area itself

. when we talk about what is actually burning as we understand. at first, it was a semi trailer full of plastics that was on fire. those flames eventually spread to some piles of plastic and then eventually this compound fire chief said. in particular, this compound in total is about 14 acres worth of plastic inside and that about 13.5 acres have burned so far at this point, we just got a briefing from a whole host of officials at the state level, local level and federal level as well. some representatives from the epa, but take a listen to one of those officials as they explained a little bit of what they're doing. dealing with here. um these are very fine particles. and if they're breathe, then can cause all kinds of respiratory problems burning in the eyes tightening of the chairs, it could aggravate asthma cause bronchitis and all kinds of things. so we are stressing to

the public to honor the evacuation zone. it's for your safety that the evacuation zone is there. and if you can see the smoke, you're in the smoke. get out of the smoke. and as of now, the evacuation zone is about a half mile radius from these flames about 2000. people in this 35,000 person town have been affected by those orders it to be clear. one of the things that fire officials did say is that the fire the good news is contained at this point to the recycling plant itself, the fire itself not spreading into the neighborhoods, but omar clearly the smoke and the air quality issues are so just, you know, again, we see you there. i see the smoke behind you. what's it like to be there? yeah this point you know, there is a smell in the air you obviously you can't go far without seeing this in particular, and we were talking to a resident who lives in that evacuation zone, who

literally got the order did not hesitate and left. and even if she had not gotten the order, if she just looked outside, she would have seen that thick plume of black smoke shoes essentially right and take a listen to some of what she told us earlier this morning. when they said evacuate . i didn't have shoes on i have socks on and i left my purse. my shoes. i left a lot of things personal things you know at the house and just got in the car and drove away. i'm still worried because they're telling us they don't know what was burning and that, you know, irritation, marker, skin problems. you know, i'm in my eyes were kind of like matter and, uh, i put more, um, cloths on that i didn't go to the hospital, but it's available for us. and the mayor told us that today the focus is on the residents, but also the first responders who are in their actually battling displays. but when you talk about what may have caused this, we still don't

know what that is at this moment. but the mayor here was not mincing words and said that the building owner, the owner of this property is one that is responsible for this because he says they've had issues with this property before that they've been cited. before that they were fire hazard cited on this location and that this location have been given an order that they were unsafe and to use some of the words of the fire chief. they did not wonder if something like this would happen. but when and now it appears it has so. we're trying to find more details on that. but the mayor, the fire chief, did not hold back words when they pointed the blame very quickly, even in these initial stages, and i should also mention as well the fire, she said. the most difficult part about getting to this was that a lot of the entrances were blocked with debris of plastic. so whatever their initial problems, was just trying to be able to get to the property to fight this flame that obviously you can see from miles away here. john omar jimenez in richmond, indiana. with the smoke billowing behind. um are

you and your team, please stay safe. with us now is cnn's chief medical correspondent. dr sanjay gupta. sanjay look plastic, so funny word when it's in a film like the graduate, but when you're talking about 14 acres of it burning what are the risks supposes to air quality. well you know, there's a way of looking at this is yet to look at this in the immediate sort of time period, but also sort of over time. what happens to these these particular compounds and over space, meaning that the obviously the evacuation zone is of concern, but we're talking about very, very fine particles , which can travel over distance . so over time and space is when you have to sort of think about this. omar was talking about the particulate matter. in the evacuation zone. that's the smoke. that's the obvious stuff , john. you know. you see it. you smell it. you breathe it in . it's irritating. that's why people need to get out of their masks can be helpful. but really , as omar was saying, leaving that area so that you're not

actually breathing in that particulate matter, which can affect even healthy people's lungs, and hearts, is the sort of most immediate concern. i think what omar was sort of alluding to in what you heard in that presser as well. is that when you burn this stuff, plastics in turn into what are known as volatile organic compounds that sort of a potpourri of all sorts of different things, john, it becomes hard to sort of pinpoint exactly what that's all going to turn into from previous fires and sort of looking at these types of compounds. they know that it can turn into chemicals like styrene benzene, and there's some evidence of what that can do if people are exposed. but what happens now? right now, john, is that those compounds? they're so light so volatile, they get up higher, much higher in the plume that omar was describing and then over time, they will start to dissipate and come down to lower lying areas. how long that takes where they land. exactly that's

a little bit of an unknown because you have to sort of anticipate and predict how that's going to unfold. but those you know those can be potentially problematic compounds if they are in high enough doses still at that point when they come down to the ground, causing things like dizziness and disorientation, confusion, headaches, things like that. skin irritation. there's a lot more that's known about benzene is, for example, versus die irene's, but these are the sort of things are going to be looking for measuring the levels but also seeing if there's any health impacts over the next several days, who is most vulnerable here we're talking about people with respiratory issues or asthma who should be most careful. you know, really. there's been these studies that have looked at people who have underlying health conditions such as cardiovascular disease. people are at risk of heart disease. things like that babies, but really, you know, if you look at some of these studies, john, anybody is potentially vulnerable, healthy people. there were studies of healthy people who had been near, you know, big sort of plumes of smoke like this. and certainly that particulate matter. just

think of that as smoke. breathing it in anyone is particularly vulnerable when it comes to these volatile organic compounds, which again may be high up in that plume of smoke. may travel may come down over the next you know, several days , you know people who are at risk of that again. anybody could be at risk, but people who have underlying conditions specifically cardiac and respiratory, they're going to probably be the most at risk. obviously people in that area need to pay attention to the public health officials. dr sanjay gupta. thank you so much for helping explain this all cape. this is where you are from watching this right now. a lot of people at risk. i mean, this is just just west of indianapolis, right near the ohio border and just devastating to see what this means for the community. we're going to john's gonna stay very close on this. is it still unfolding this morning? we're also tracking this major story. still today, the family of the gunman who shot and killed five people at louisville bank. that family is speaking up, saying that he struggled with mental health issues overnight. police say

that they recovered items from the shooter's home the details of what they picked up, though not yet released, but police have put out the body cam video from the officers responding to this tragedy. the video includes also footage from officer nick coolest wilt. he's the 26 year old rookie who had just been sworn in days earlier and is now in critical condition after being shot in the head, and we have video from his training officer cory c. j. galloway it shows both officers arriving in charging toward the bank as they face gunfire from the suspect. or making entry from the from the east side, pressing the main .

let me see that as one officer will shot there was also an officer. galloway was shot as well. officials say those officers they were dispatched at 8 38 am on monday. they arrived on the scene about two minutes later in immediately face that gunfire and it took police about five minutes to neutralize this situation and take down that gunman. we also have a new image from inside the bank that morning. you can see the suspect roaming the hallways with that long gun in his hands. officials say it took like him. just one minute to carry out that attack that killed five people. they say that he then stopped. stop the shooting and waited for officers to arrive. and we know what happened. then sarah. cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz is here with me. we just saw the clip from that officer c. j. galloway um, it is so very rare that we get this insight so quickly as to what happened. can you give us some sense of what we were seeing because at that point, there were only two officers

correct who were engaging? the suspect appears that in that one area there were other officers responding because you hear galloway on the radio saying where they're going, doing what they're trained to do. going in this direction. and it was just him and this rookie officer going in trying to figure out where the gunman was how they can stop the threat engaged the shooter and, sadly, what we see is that one officer seriously injured getting shot in the head . just 10 days on the job. so you see galloway. they're approaching the building. they have no idea that point. where the shooter is, and that is what is so remarkable in all of this is that they had no idea where he was. you see them approaching . um they know he's somewhere behind that glass, but they can't see glare glare, and they just they put their lives. right there. they sort of were like they were willing to take that gunfire to try and save the people inside. i want to play

another clip for everyone. this is towards the end of the encounter. so they are going down. i think he's down you're doing after off now. yeah, you can down the stairs. i think he's down. yeah get the officer. okay. you hear him? say many different things like get the officer. i think he says nikki's down. which would be nicholas wilt to grab him. did i hear that they were trying to set up some cover. they realized at some point that he was injured, and they were trying to get him out, so they wanted cover, which is standard

procedure in these situations. but also there you see galloway , he gets shot. he actually is graced. luckily um, that bullet just missed him by interest, and he's grazed and he falls to the ground. but yet what do you see? there? he gets right back up, and he starts aiming towards that area and then finally sees the government and he is able to kill him. and it's just again. you're seeing a situation where these officers just two officers going towards the gunman going towards the gunfire, and we know because of their their heroic efforts. lives were saved, and not only that the officers then continued inside. gave medical aid to people that were victims , and they as a result of that those victims survived. i think we should do mention this because you were in your body. you covered that mass shooting and there was a very different scenario here. we're talking about two officers who first engaged. they did not wait a second before they went towards the shooter, even though they could not see him at the time.

they went for it without backup backup was coming, but they weren't there yet. can you give me a sense of just how incredibly different this was in comparison to what you saw, and we also involved there are some differences here. the thing that is again what i keep saying to myself and what is so remarkable that despite the fact that these officers were shot, they continued. and you validate what happens is yes, the officers get on scene. they go into the hallway of the school. they start facing fire, and then they retreat. bullets are coming through the walls through the windows and officer gets grazed . he's bleeding. they all run back, and they never go back for another 77 minutes instead of organizing, saying, okay, one of our officers is injured like we see here. let's get the team together. we need to go in. we need to go. they retreat and they wait for 77 minutes. you don't see any officers in this situation waiting. they keep going. keep going. keep going until the threat is eliminated.

it didn't take very long and they finally eliminated the threat. and because of that, action they were able to save lives. the difference is when it's happening to you at the time. what is the office going to do? because they're all trained to go in and to take? take the shooter out. that doesn't always happen, deputy chief hear what he said yesterday has stayed with me, he said. not everyone can do this, and it's so obvious only a certain few can do this, and that's what he was saying. german brokered has thank you so much for that analysis. and tonight at nine. katelyn polantz will sit down with kentucky governor andy bashir for his first interview since the deadly shooting that is right here on cnn, katelyn polantz. president biden just landed in dublin. after a trip to northern ireland and belfast. there it is a rare force one in a gray and foggy double hate. it wouldn't be ireland if it didn't look like that. a big day for the president already, and he has

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down from 6.1 million women pregnancies in 2010 teenage pregnancies were dropped by half during that same time period and stepping out actor jeremy runner made his first well, it will call it a blue carpet appearance yesterday for a screening of his new disney plus series renovations. the actor you'll remember was seriously injured earlier this year after being crushed by the snowplow that he was using near his nevada home. john appreciate the blue carpet fact check their katelyn polantz right now. i'm reliably told as president biden has just landed in dublin to begin his three day visit to the republic of ireland. president has already had a very busy day he held bilateral talks in belfast with british prime minister richie soon knock and delivered a speech about the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement, which ended decades of sectarian violence. they're seen as nic robertson is live in belfast where the president just

was so bring us up to speed on what he has done already, nick. he met with the british prime minister. they discussed the importance of the good friday agreement, and then the president went on to give a keynote speech at a ribbon cutting ceremony at ulster university here in the center of belfast and the good friday agreement and the importance of upholding it and the importance of continuing to work towards it , and the importance of the united states being committed to the peace that the good friday agreement brought all of those things. the president spoke about. he tried to reach out across the political divide here to the democratic unionist party , delicate diplomatic language if you will, because they're not a party that's going to take kindly to hearing words from from the united states president but president biden was pains to explain his english roots as well as this irish roots are

real deference there to these holdout unionist politicians, pro british politicians that refused to get into power sharing government here and the president's message was really very, very clear. it's about hope, and it's about hard work. the lesson of the good friday agreement is this in times when things seem fragile. or easily broken. that is when hope. and hard work. are needed the most. that's when we must make our theme repair. repair. holy easter season this season. when all christians celebrate renewal on life. good friday agreement showed us that there is hope for repair. and i think that was his subtle message there for those unionist politicians to get back into the power sharing government, which was really the

most important, enduring institution that came out of the good friday agreement. other of course than the piece that is lost in the last 25 years, john nick. i have one eye on you. and i'm keeping one eye on these live pictures from dublin where air force one is now on the ground. the stairs are out. we're waiting for the president to leave air force one and get in the limousine. it's a rainy dublin as you predicted, so i'm not sure how much time he's going to linger underneath those umbrellas on the tarmac there, though, nick, what does he have in store for his time in the republic of ireland, south of you? his going to travel this afternoon up to county louth that's back up to the border almost sort of coming back halfway towards belfast. actually yes, the rain's coming in here to belfast. it's literally come in. we'll have been talking to have been watching it. come over the davis mountain up there that's already in cloud and the president driving up to county louth. it appears at the moment they've taken a weather check on marine

one as best we understand the situation. calls for at the moment is going to go visit. we expect calling for calling for castle and the town of dundalk, both on the border. his great great great grandfather, owen finnegan, a cobbler shoemaker came from there just one of his visits to family roots will be headed out west later in the week to county mayo, where he will go to the town of alan r, and visit other other of his distant relatives there, but an important speech tomorrow at a full showing of the irish parliament the or otis, both houses of the parliament, coming together to hear an important speech by the president tomorrow as well, john nick, we always talk about how important ireland is. too many u. s presidents who can have some familial connection obviously with the island, but how are you? us presidents received or thought of in ireland itself. and there

is the president right now getting ready to walk out of air force one. i think there's go ahead, got his umbrella up. it's certainly need one. if he was still here, i think you know, presidents get a good reception in in ireland. there is a long and strong connection, whether it's been president kennedy, president clinton president obama, so many u. s presidents have visited ireland and have that deep, strong family connection and you see it in the types of stores. you you hear it in communities. people will often strike up a conversation with you, particularly with cnn, and they say okay. i've got family in the united states and they'll tell us where they all are. so i think it means a lot and the fact that the president wants to spend time a busy man the man, the most powerful man in the world will take time out of his schedule. okay. it gives him time to connect personally with his family out of his normal routine, but it shows respect. it shows that

connection and i think people in ireland generally like it here in northern ireland. it's slightly different, some of them not so. happy to see the president here. and i'm looking under those umbrellas. i think i saw the prime minister of ireland underneath one of those umbrellas as well as the lord mayor of dublin. you can assume the u. s ambassador to ireland claire cronin, also in there somewhere this as the president continues to greet people on the tarmac, you get the sense he's going to enjoy. this trip. he's going to enjoy this time in ireland. he brought his son hunter. he brought his sister earlier yesterday. in fact, the president said that he was bringing with him relatives who hadn't been with him before on his many trips to ireland. he made a big trip to the republic of ireland in his waiting days as vice president. you got the sense he was doing that back in 2016 because he wasn't sure if he would make any more. official. visits to ireland and wanted to make it special. but here he is these many years

later as the president of the united states, um someone who many people refer to as the most irish president since jfk jfk. all eight of his great grandparents were from ireland, so you can't get more irish than that. but joe biden, very, very proud, nick. of his irish roots. and it's an interesting contrast as well, because i covered president president trump when he came to ireland, and he spent a lot of time in his golf resort president biden says, going to spend a lot of time out in the community and who would like it who would not want to be walking around in irish castle strolling down an irish high street talking to people who just love to have a conversation of always got a tale to tell who doesn't love that? you know, i do. and you know that president joe biden loves it as well. you can see the smile on his face. before that we saw his sister valerie. by owens and then his son. hunter was in there as

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fox on capitol hill. and this is cnn. the mayor of louisville, says that the city is heartbroken and understandably so as it prepares for a vigil today for the five people killed at that bank. downtown officials also say it took the gunman only one minute to carry out the attack, and the gunman's family is speaking up and saying this morning that he struggled with depression, but that they had no idea he was plotting this. 2000 people have been evacuated in indiana as a huge fire, as you can see, continues burning at this recycling plant in the state. the thick toxic smoke it is really just wild to see. an officials say that it could still be burning for days. local officials also said just this morning that all the blame falls on the owner of the plant and that the business has been cited before. for unsafe building conditions. sarah former

president donald trump says he never dropped out of the 2024 race even if he was convicted of a crime. trump's comments come during his first sit down interview since being indicted for his role in paying hush money to adult film star stormy daniels, the former president also taking issue with the statute of limitations on the case against him. if this goes to trial, and you get convicted , like, how would you respond? the middle of a presidential campaign office statute of limitations or years off, it's hard to believe. here we come. all right. you heard his answer their state attorney for palm beach county, florida. dave aronberg joins me now, dave, you heard donald trump there, answering that question. the da's office is going forward. they're using a law section of the new york criminal law that basically says if you haven't been in the state, they can extend the statute of limitations it has been used before recently. in the harvey weinstein case. do you think

this is a stretch by the d a or a good strategy? sarah the d a. wouldn't go this far in charge the former president unless they thought they had a really good case. that means there's no statute of limitations problem and the reason is what you said trump left the state of new york so the statute of limitations has told or pause. he moved near me and palm beach county, although i live on the other side of the bridge, but you can't move out of the state and still claim a statue. limitations has expired. no pause, and also, there's another reason. governor cuomo signed into law another measure that pauses the statue of limitations because of covid so donald trump may have some good arguments in defense of this action in new york, but i don't think a statue of limitations is one of them. okay let's move on to dna. alvin bragg is also suing the house judiciary chairman jim jordans, and he's basically saying look, there was a transparent campaign to intimidate and attack his office. he is getting death threats. um, what do you think about this? and whether or not

jim jordan is going to come comply, um, with with this lawsuit as it goes forward. alvin bragg had to do something because it was level intimidation out there. jim jordan was trying to get involved. he would do that for no other criminal defendants, except for donald trump. but you know, there's something called federalism, and jim jordan needs to learn that the maybe the best part about the job of being a state prosecutor is that the governor, the president and especially not a member of congress. they're not. our bosses is the people of our communities. and so jim jordan, i don't think will win in this fight. also when it comes to trying to get grand jury materials that's secret. it's against the law to get it, so i think maybe if they ever do, depose mark pomerantz they won't get what they want to be a big show and nothing more. there is another lawsuit, and there are other potential lawsuits coming, but there's also one that is in the flow. it's already started the e jean carroll case, the lawyers for trump are asking the judge to delay that case where she accuses him of sexual

assault and defamation. do you think that the judge will actually grant donald trump's request to delay it because of his prosecution. in this other case that d a brag brought, he's saying because of all the bad publicity and the emotions and the hysteria that the jury would be swayed by that, as opposed to normally when the jury in manhattan would like him, so i think this is another tactic that trump has always used, which is delay delay delay. he's trying to push it out. i don't think it's going to work and i think the case is going to go on as planned. thank you so much for joining us from my home state. i appreciate it, john. all right. sara, a rare fungal infection has made almost 100 people sick in michigan. details on where and how this is spreading. and the justice department facing a one p.m. deadline today in the fight over abortion access, we have new reporting on the strategy. they seem to be taken. what's it like

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become more severe and even life threatening. so what happened here at this plant? and why are so many people they're getting sick. joining me now is gerald cal. he's the president of the united steelworkers. local 21, the union that represents hundreds of workers at this paper mill. gerald. thank you for coming in as you and i were just talking really quickly in the break. there are so many unknowns still which which is why it's so scary, but first and foremost, how are people doing? ah you know, people are banding together. we uh we're showing our solidarity by supporting each other. we have several members that are still off of work. there's still ill. many of them have a long road ahead of him. um, but also with the awareness we brought forth on it. a lot of people are getting diagnosed early, and they're having a far better outcomes. you said, i've seen that. you say that at least one person who was, um, presenting symptoms was in the hospital for a week. i

mean, what are people dealing with what kind of symptoms have people been having? and what are they dealing with? so actually, we had we've had several members hospitalized, and one was more than three weeks. um but they're having trouble breathing. um it comes across very similar to pneumonia in general. um they have course have night sweats. they have coughs. they have sore throats a lot of typical respiratory disease symptoms which also made it very difficult early on, too. identify as a fungal infection when people started getting sick , who are working at the paper mill, which i should say you work there as well? when did you all start thinking that this was something more serious and something that could be connected? well that was obviously driven by the local health care facilities who ultimately were able to identify what it was. and then once we were notified of that, which was basically through the transparency of our own members, so the union members have been very vocal and they were able to

step up and let us know everything that's going on so we could bring the awareness of the issue. um healthcare facilities drove that, though obviously identifying it, and we knew we had a rash of respiratory. uh cases in the in the membership, but once that was identified, we were able to, you know, compel members to go see their primary care physician to go see the local hospital and even the healthcare facilities in general changed their protocols to look for it. so um, that's where it really started to ring up in early march. the source of this is still not known where and when. and exactly how this how this started. the source of this is obviously critical for so many reasons, including to make sure that this doesn't happen again. but are you all confident that the current exposure is past that the threat is over? we do? we don't know that at this time. um that's one of my chief concerns. um you know, we're working collaboratively with the company to and outside oversight

agencies, including niosh, the local health department, usw health and safety to investigate mitigate risk. um and of course, as you mentioned prevented in the future. but we don't actually know these specific source. and we may never know, um something we're learning that it's not really easy to identify because of the long incubation period. um but we can certainly work on efforts to mitigate risk and take care of our people that are impacted by it right now. would you want to read because it did company did give a statement to cnn saying that we continue to take this matter very seriously, or foreigner, following recommendations from health and government officials and implementing numerous proactive step is to protect the health and safety of our employees, contractors and visitors. you say that we are working collaboratively with them. how do you view the company's role in all of this, gerald? well i think it's certainly the you know the company and the unions and everybody's, uh, role is to

provide a safe working environment and we have a long history in the united steelworkers of, you know, spearheading occupational safety and health. so when it comes to something like this, it's important that we all work together because the ultimate goal is the safety of the entire workforce at the mill. um so it has been a joint effort up to this point, and i think we've reached out to the proper authorities and experts in the field to really get the best resolution possible. yeah as you said, you don't know yet if it's quite yet safe to be back at work if the threat is passed because you don't know where the source of it all began. it's good to see you, gerald. thank you so much for coming in. we continue to follow this, john. i have family out there. it's very concerning the vitamin ist rations just unveiled its most ambitious climate policy yet new emissions rules aimed at boosting electric car all sales nationwide. and brand new body camera footage from the officers who responded to the louisville bank shooting that left five people dead. your best defense

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