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biden fundraiser last night capturing former president barack obama as he makes his case to reelect president by standby here his argument, and we'll get reaction from a key democrat in congress welcome to our viewers here in the united states world. i'm wolf blitzer, a urine the situation room the skis, cnn breaking news. >> let's get right to the breaking news on the potential expansion of donald trump's gag order in the new york criminal case against them following his online attacks on the presiding judge and the judges daughter cnn anchor kaitlan collins, is following all of this. first, caitlin, what, what are we
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hearing from trump's lawyers now about the gag order >> this is an interesting development, wolf it and essentially it's trump's attorneys responding to a letter from the district attorney here in manhattan, alvin bragg, that he's sent to judge more sean. that is the judge that is overseeing trump's criminal hush money trial that is scheduled to begin in just a few weeks, and also the judge to impose that partial gag order on trump in recent days, trump of of course, has not attacked the people who that gag order applies to, but he has gone after the judge multiple times and the judges daughter that as clearly prompted the da's office to send a letter to the judge asking him to clarify if that gag order applies to family members, not just of the judge, but of the district attorney's office and others and they say that they have had potential witnesses in this trial who have grave concerns about threats to them, about their safety trump's team is responding to this letter, wolf saying that this gag order does not apply to family members of members of the judge of the district attorney's office. of course, it doesn't apply to the
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judge or the district attorney himself, and they're saying any attempt to try to make it apply to those individuals would be an expansion of the gag order would therefore require briefs to be filed. and for that to happen, this is important, woolf, because what the district attorney's office was asking is that if it does apply, trump needs to stop attacking judge more daughter, which trump has continued to do, including by name yesterday, and wolf, it just kinda put this in the context of this remarkable moment and just how heat it things are as we're leading up to the trunk i'll but also trump's continued attacks on the judiciary, which have long been a staple of his and something he has done for years now. but what's changed here is the rhetoric. and also who's responding, including this remarkable moment that we had last night where a sitting federal judge. so when you never rarely hear from much less on cable news who's came forward and spoke to me about just what it means, what these thoughts mean to judges and to their families you almost never
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hear from a sitting federal judge. i wonder what made you speak out tonight and speak publicly. >> but in a >> rare interview with cnn, senior us district judge a dread walton, who is deeply respected and washington's legal circles spoke out against donald trump's latest attacks on social media against a fellow member of the judiciary. >> i think it's important that as judges, we speak out and say things in reference to things that conceivably are going to impact on the process. >> i have a trump-hating judge walton criticize trump for his latest attacks on justice. won were shawn, who is overseeing the former president's criminal trial relating to hush money payments. >> it's very disconcerting to have someone making comments about a judge and it's particularly problematic when those comments and so are in the form of a threat, especially if they're directed at one's family after immer schon imposed a gag order limiting the former president from making statements about
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potential witnesses, jurors, attorneys, and court staff, but not him. trump has been attacking his daughter on social media, including by name. >> we do these jobs calls because we're committed to the rule of law and we believe in the rule of law and the rule of law can only function effectively. when we have judges who are prepared to carry out their duties without the threat of potential physical harm. >> judge walton was appointed by both bush president's and has spent more than 40 years on the bench but he noticed an increase in threats once he began hearing cases of january 6, criminal defendants have received the greater number of threats as a result of that incident. this is a new phenomenon, not saying that it didn't happen before, but was very rare that i would ever receive any type of a threat regardless of what type of cases i was handling. and unfortunately, that is no longer the case. >> walton pointing to past murders of his judicial colleagues, family members,
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including new jersey judge ester solace is signed in 4-bar chicago. judge joan left coase husband and mother >> unfortunately, it's a reality that it's not inconceivable that something could happen. it's a reality that we live with, but you try not to let it impact on your day-to-day life >> but even in the midst of these threats, walton says, the law must endure even though threats may be made. again she went against your family. you still have an obligation to ensure that everybody who comes into your courtroom, it's treated fairly regardless of who they are, what they've done. i think it's important in order to preserve our democracy that we maintain the rule of law and the rule, the rule of law can only be maintained if we have independent judicial we're officers who are able to do their job and ensure that the laws are in fact enforced and that the laws are applied equally to everybody who appears in our courthouse well, if obviously that rare
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appearance has sparked a lot of feedback, for what judge walton had to say. the fact that he had to say it it all including from judge michael luttig, who of course, you know, but for those who don't, he's a former federal appeals court judge, and he responded in part saying, quote, it is a regrettable commentary on our times that a loan federal judge referring to judge walton, there because no one whose responsibility it is to do so as had the courage and the will would finally be left no choice, but himself to express it on national television caitlin are really, really important interview. thank you very much for that. stay with us. i also want to bring in seen as senior legal analyst, elie honig as cnn senior law enforcement analyst, andrew mccabe le should this gag order also cover the judges family and what do you make of prosecutors asked you the judge for clarification? >> well, if i think this was a strong reaction by the da's office to trump's ran on truth, social yesterday where he singled out by name the judges daughter. now, i think if you look at the existing
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limited gag order as it's written, it probably does not technically apply to the family members of the judge. it certainly does not i apply to the judge himself. and so i think it's the right move by the da's office to say, judge, we need some clarification here, and by the way, we think it should apply to the family members of you, the judge, even if it does not apply to you as the judge himself. now, trump's team is probably right that that would require an expansion of the limited gag order, but i think the judge would be entirely within his bytes here to say yes, it requires an expansion and i'm granting that expansion based on these comments andrew mccabe, the former deputy director of the fbi, is a us right now doing enough to protect judges amid this very disturbing rise in the threats they're facing. >> happened a lot in third world >> well, much like the rise in the threats to congresspeople and senators that judicial system is experiencing the same massive increase in threat activity towards judges. i think it's doubled through during the period from 2021 to
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23, we saw it's up it's more than doubled during that period. so there's the federal marshals have the responsibility of protecting federal judges. and i'm sure that they are absolutely taxed at this point, trying to protect those judges who are the subjects of these threats. but let's not beat around the bush here. the threat that's are coming mostly from people who had been charged with offenses related to january 6 or people who are related to and responding to those charges and those convictions. so there is a clear through line here from donald trump to his supporters and onto the threats that these judges that are receiving. so i am maybe in the minority here, i don't think a gag order from every court in the country is going to do much to stop trump from >> speaking and the way he does and the disrespectful threatening tone that he uses for the judiciary so our federal marshals and other
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partners and law enforcement need to step up their game because we cannot tolerate this sort of conduct. >> kaitlan collins, based on all your reporting and you're doing a lot of it. is there a recognition among trump's team that has rhetoric towards judges is potentially very dangerous. >> well, they're worried. i mean, it has some legal liability because don't forget, this is the judge who is overseeing this trial. and if trump is convicted pictured here, this will be the judge who is sentencing him. so i don't think that they think it's wise for trump to continue not even just going after the judge's daughter, but attacking the judge himself as trump has continued to do every single day nearly since he is a firm that yes. trump will be on trial in just a matter of weeks from now. but it also pay close attention to this letter that they filed in response to what the district to attorney set, because a few paragraphs down, trump's legal team is kind of justifying him calling out. judge merchan's daughter by name, talking about the work that she has done for democrats campaigns, essentially trying to argue that she's not completely off get off bail out
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of balance here for him to be going after her. now, we'll see how the judge fonts to that. and obviously, as we've talked to judge walton about last night, simply because she has done work for people who are donald trump's political opponents, doesn't mean that she's fair game for him to attack by name. and as the judge emphasized last night, donald trump is someone who has a massive platform. and even if he doesn't intend for his words to cause harm, they certainly can. he pointed me too many other cases where we've seen that happen to other members of the judiciary. >> important point elie honig, do you think judge walton was speaking for more than just himself in that interview with kaitlan last night? >> well if i know he was because i spent a good portion of today talking to various judges state and federal trial and appellate level of judges, and they were all reacting to that remarkable interview that kaitlyn did with judge wall. and now a couple of key points emerged as a consensus. first of all, it is extraordinarily rare, bordering on unheard of for a sitting judge to comment publicly on a pending case and for good reason however, these
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judges, by enlarge, felt that this issue is so important, so urgent that they applauded judge walton for what he said. they feel like it can't be ignored. and several of them said to me that they felt like a line really got crossed when one of the participants, donald trump, started great invoking the judges family. one person said, that's just a line that you can't tolerate being crossed. so it was a very unusual, remarkable interview. judge walton, by the way, is one of the most experienced and respected judges in this country. he's a republican appointee. you cannot accuse him of being an ideolog or a political player. i think he's a powerful message singer for a powerful message. >> it was very powerful message indeed andrew, what challenges will judge version face enforcing the boundaries in this gag order? >> i think as soon as judge merge, sean has really put to the test of trying to enforce what will be an inevitable violation of the gag order. he's going to have some very, very tough decisions to make. he can of course, impose
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sanctions, monetary sanctions, and fines on trump for violations of the gag order but ultimately, if that doesn't prove effective you end up at the potential of incarceration. >> and that is very, very >> hard place for the judge to be. nobody wants to put a defendant in custody before they've been convicted and certainly not when that defendant is running for public office. that's the highest office in the land. >> it will provoke >> an onslaught of of motions and appeals and litigation just around those issues. all things that the judge does not need to further complicate an already high profile and hard to handle trials. so violations of the gag order are not a good thing. before judge murcia. and i'm sure he's hoping that the gag order will have its intended effect, but i doubt it. >> well, we shall see a kaitlan. what's been the reaction in the judicial community to your truly extraordinary interview with
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judge walton last night? >> well, i think ellie makes a good point there about how it's something that a lot of them would like to say. but it's just so rare that they speak. i heard from a lot of people today saying it's just remarkable to hear from him the fact that he did this cable news interview, interview. but i think the other side of the aisle, wolff has been people in trump's circle and on his side saying it's inappropriate for him to come out and speak and i just think it's rich with irony that people who are supporters of donald trump's are now concerned about norms being busted and things being changed, given that is something that donald trump does on a near daily basis. i mean, donald trump's own allies will acknowledge that that is something that he does. and i think really what it speaks to is not judge walton himself just feeling the need to do this. it's the moment that he felt the need that he needed to come out and say what he said last night. la before i let all of you go a trump's attorneys are also appealing the georgia judge's ruling allowing fani willis to remain on the case. they're writing and i'm quoting now from those
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attorneys provided in a da willis with the option to simply remove wade confounds logic and is contrary to georgia law. and because de willis is disqualified, so too is our whole office. what do you make of that argument from trump's lawyers? >> well, first of all, there's a lot of unknown around this case, even the trial judge, judge mcafee says, i'm operating largely unmoored from precedent, meaning this is brand new territory. so this could go either way. i think trump's team makes reasonable arguments. it's always hard to win an appeal, but really the main two main arguments. first of all, they say judge, mcafee found that the da's public commentary, including the speech she made it a church was legally improper, yet trump's team says he failed to disqualify your felkel, do anything. and the second thing that they argue is there's at least in appearance of conflict here as the judge found, and that should be enough to throw the de off the case. so this is going to be a close call wolf. we're gonna to watch this one closely, very subject indeed le android kaitlan to all of you.
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thank you very much. this node, caitlin, and of course be back later tonight, 09:00 p.m. eastern to anchor hershko. the source, and we'll be watching just ahead. how former president barack obama made the case to reelect president biden during that big fundraising phase, or in new york city, last night, i'll ask a key democrat how the message will play with voters in her battleground state. and later, we'll go live to russia for an update on american journalist evan gershkovich as he's now marking a full one year since he was detained and imprison by russian authorities >> if you work in spaceflight, this is the worst possible thing i can ever help my dad died doing what he loved. >> space shuttle columbia. he final flight from your sunday,
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his former running mate in the white house. listen to this it's not just the negative case against the presumptive nominee. on the other side, it's the positive case four somebody who's done an outstanding job in the presence. we also have positive story to tell about the future and that is something that joe biden has worked on diligently and joining us now, democratic congresswoman alyssa slotkin, from the key presidential battleground state of michigan congresswoman. thanks very much for joining us. you heard former president obama make the case for president biden's reelection, but given the president's very low approval numbers, right now and a whole host of issues. how tough of a tell could this be especially in your critically important to home state of michigan? that yeah. >> well, look, i mean, the good thing about michiganders, at least in our swing state is that we care about actual results and things that we can see and there is no pushing
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back on the idea that we're having a manufacturing renaissance going on right now, basically from michigan to alabama. dirt is being moved. i have a new electric vehicle battery factory being built from the ground up in my district and so michiganders can see that they can see the infrastructure bill and their roads being fixed and bridges being fixed. so i think we're pretty practical people. and at the end of the day, when we can see that progress, it matters to us even though there are plenty of things that we want to improve about the economy and inflation no one person can do that on their own, but manufacturing and arguably with the results that we've seen in the state, it was a show of unity for democrats rats on stage in new york city last night at the city music hall but process protesters both inside and outside highlighted one very deep division in the party when it comes to gaza, right now, is president biden congresswoman doing enough to address these concerns >> yeah. well, i think what you're hearing king is people
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who feel angry and upset and dehumanized and they want to be heard and i think the president, i mean, as i think they tried to explain a little bit in the meeting last night or in the event last night? i mean, he's having a very open conversation in public with bibi netanyahu about the day after planning and rafah and humanitarian aid. i think that's usually when you have an allied relationship, those conversations, those tough conference precisions happened behind closed doors there now happening out in the open for the whole world to see. and they need to continue to happen. i think that the president is being earnest when saying he's, he's trying to exert pressure. i think there are levers that he's pulling right now. and the fact that last week we were having trips canceled and all that stuff, it's just highly unusual in a long bipartisan relationship that we've had between the us and israel it's significant than washington post is now reporting congresswoman just now that the biden
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administration has quietly authorized the transfer of a new >> arms package for israel, including more 2000 pound bombs linked to previous mass casualty events in gaza, as you know, how will michigan voters react to this? and isn't time for president biden to put conditions on military aid to israel. >> well, look, i haven't seen that exact report, but that it my my assumption is that those things were approved previously because we haven't had an aid package come up to us. in the house back comprehensive aid package that we've been talking about, i think for months with ukraine and taiwan and israel. but look, i mean, this is the importance of being on the same page with the israelis defensive weapons, of course, the israelis are, have to be able to defend themselves and protect themselves from rockets and mortars from both coming from gaza, but also from the north. i don't think anyone's quibbling with that, but this is why it's so important to have aligned understanding of what the plan is and why more
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humanitarian aid can't get in to help people and so i think that certainly you can understand why people in michigan and throughout the country are trying to understand what the play is here when they can see pictures of people hungry and starving begging for food in the middle of gaza. so i haven't seen the exact reports, but that is i can understand why that would be a point of real concern. >> donald trump, as you well know, will visit your home state of michigan next week. in our latest poll, cnn poll, trump is leading biden by eight points in michigan. so how does biden close the gap in this key battleground state? >> yeah. i mean, look, there's a bunch of poles, some of them have them much closer, some of them have them tied, polling this far out, you know, every, every cycle we all talk about polling and then we say all the polling wasn't so great the president trump is coming here next week. and we are dealing with on the west side of the
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state, the murder of a young woman named ruby garcia a domestic violence homicide. it's a terrible, horrible, gruesome death on top of a number of domestic violence incidents were having in that. and we've been having in that area but the president in the former president, excuse me, is coming to sort of make this a political event for himself. and i think the thing that it no one is missing is that for all the talk that the former president and his allies have about the border. and all we need to do to secure the border, they will not let us vote on a bipartisan package that the republicans presented a couple of weeks ago. and i think that's the thing that is just so gruesome about this is that you have a terrible murder of a young woman and then you have the president coming, former president coming in and saying it's all about the border in border security. but he won't let us actually deal with the border. so that's what's frustrating to a lot of us and him and his allies and
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including people i'm running against are using it as a political issue. not that they care for this particular woman representative, alyssa slack get of michigan. thank you very much. and we'll continue this conversation down the road coming up, how russia is barking a year of detaining american journalist evan gershkovich, plus my interview with too close friends of the wall street journal reported sanity needs to safe space we've had a show were right and left talk to each other >> cnn presents an encore presentation of hbo's real time with bill maher tomorrow at eight on cnn doug hello, ghostbusters. >> it's >> duck of degli moon. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual >> anyway we got a bit of a situation here
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americans detained by russian authorities. let's go live right now to russia. cnn's chief global affairs correspondent matthew chance is joining us. he's in st. petersburg. matthew, what's the view from russia at this one mark >> well i mean, it's a good question. i mean, look, within the past few days, evan gershkovich has been having his pretrial extension. pretrial detention extended for another three months, but we still don't know when the trial for espionage is going to begin. i suddenly you have diplomats believe it's another 90 days in which they can try again to try and forge some sort of deal as some sort of prisoner exchange to get evan and other americans out we know there are lots of other americans are several other americans, of course so in custody in russia. we also think we know what the russians want in return, which is the release of a russian security services operative. his names of vadim krasikov.
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and he was convicted and jailed and germany for killing a chechen distance in a public park. there at the problem is, is that the germans are not playing ball. they don't want to release a convicted murderer in exchange for an american citizen that they're saying that would send the wrong message to the kremlin. and so the negotiations behind the scenes, wolf are continuing, but they're also deadlocked unfortunately. >> and as you mentioned, gershkovich isn't the only american still in detention in russia? >> that's right. he's not there are several people, many, three or four other significant people, the most significant which baps in terms of the length of stay, length of period they've been detained here is paul whelan. he's a former us marine. he was jailed back in 2018, later convicted of espionage charges as well. he's also designated by the us
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authorities, the us government, as wrongfully detained and unfortunately, he is he's not going to come out and behind bars along with evan gershkovich until a new deal is done as well. but he's certainly someone very much that us authorities are focusing on for a prisoner swap. >> let's okay. that happens. matthew chance in st. petersburg, russia for us. thank you. i smoke earlier with two very close friends of evan gershkovich peter sauer, and polina eva nova, about their hopes for his release and their communications with him during his captivity. watch polina. you also have exchanged letters with evan over this past year and i know he actually managed to send you some flowers for your birthday. you just heard from him last week. can you share polina a little bit more about what he said and how he is coping well, one thing we didn't talk about his arsenal. i'm afraid i don't know anything about that, but um,
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he's he's doing really well. i'm remarkable considering the circumstances. he is so strong. he's very resilient and, he writes about how he's doing the books he's reading the schedule that he keeps his routine and just how he keeps himself together. and despite the isolation and how far removed two years from all of us, we try and entertain him trying to distract him with some gossip hair or describing what we're doing with our lives it was one of the things that he really enjoys is when we'll all go to an event together, all of his friends and then we'll all describe the same event from different perspectives. and then he gets his whole, you know, 360 visions of something that he's missed out on. but makes him feel like maybe he was there it sounds as if he is like such a wonderful, wonderful 32 year-old man. i know you guys, ms him, very, very much pot or talk to us a little bit more about evan spirit while he's in this notoriously harsh russian prison yes. are you keeping up
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remarkably well, given the incredibly difficult circumstances he's inside his jail for 23 hours a day. he's got one hour day dedicated walk around in the tiny quartile inside the jail as well. but. he keeps his spirits up. i tried to make a routine for himself keeps both reading, mentally strong, but it also tries to keep physically strong by doing push-ups and sit-ups i think you understood early on its support to have a routine to biden wants to be tired and feel like he has done enough to feel like his days aren't wasted and i'm incredibly proud of or how he's keeping in there for sure. >> if you're there at the top, us hostage affairs official told cnn, these next 90 days of evidence detention are critical for trying to work god a deal before his actual trial. you have hope. you tear that evan could be freed in these next few months
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>> yes. we saw those comments and they do give us hope just this week, the kremlin also said that talks are ongoing. us president joe biden today in a statement said that he will do everything to get evan out. so we believe these 90 days are crucial. and i really do hope and we really hope that a deal will be made to get our friend back to where he belongs and also back to work evan is not just incredibly incredible person. he is an incredible journalist. and the world is missing out on this crucial reporting. >> yes, sir. >> an insight into what time russia as something that's so important >> good. go ahead. go ahead >> now, just yeah, just that it's the what he was doing was important for all of us, for our understanding of russia at a time of war and really we owe him that and we, we owe him all the time. we can give to bring him home. we were really uplifted by joe biden statement today, but just once again shows that the president feels
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very personally connected, i think to evan story. he spoke, he spoke in a statement about evans parents and his meeting with them. so that also gives us hope for, as you say, there's really crucial period of 90 days >> yeah, i want to ask each of you what's your message to evan right now and paulina, let me start with you. >> oh yeah >> it's hard. i mean just that the way here and we're working as hard as we can. i know he knows that i know that he knows that he's not forgotten by all of us and all of you and everybody who's following his case. so i just want to always remind him of that but he's not alone in there. >> certainly isn't alone. a pot or what's your message to have in right now? >> yeah. i haven't just keep going. >> the world knows you're innocent. we all know you're a
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reopen the port, update our viewers right well, if we can show you the excavation work that is going on right now, we've gone in earnest over my right shoulder. we're going to zoom in on a crane that's right there by the wreckage of the francis scott key bridge that crane has been there all day doing some excavation. we have new information tonight on that piece of equipment. all the other critical heavy equipment that has just arrived on site fight and on the arduous and very dangerous work that lies ahead the first of a fleet of massive floating cranes arrived on the potassiums go river today were the francis scott key bridge once stood is crane that we're looking at is massive i think we also know is this. is the challenge ahead of us. >> the army corps of engineers, getting ready to clear hundreds of thousands of tons of twisted steel and concrete. that's blocking ships from entering or exiting the port of baltimore. >> there is a massive steel truss bridge going across that channel, and that's bottom 50 feet down at the bottom.
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there's also concrete, possibly some containers, other debris that we have to get off to florida, but it's a delicate operation, is going to be a monumental task. this is going to be piecemeal section by section, piece by piece until they can estimate the entire area. dr. oscar barton as the dean of morgan state university's engineering school, and was a professor at the naval academy for 21 years what would you be most worried about if you are supervising the crane and this entire operation going too fast, meeting the expectations of the public to move too quickly. we've got to be very methodical, very slow and very precise, and getting it's done the chesapeake 1,000 arrived this morning but that section of bridge that straight over the front of the vessel, that portion of bridge alone >> waste 4,000 tons. my most capable crane there is 1,000 times. so we're at least going to cut that into four members, a major complicating factor for cruz trying to break up the wreckage manageable chunks,
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light. >> magen tried to do that 50 feet down in the dark with a diving suit on and we've got to do the same level of analysis on the bottom of that channel as we have to do for those members that are out of the water and the cleanup work itself poses risks to the crane operators, divers, and crew. it is dangerous. there could be tipping the crane. so the balancing of the crane is most important. >> meanwhile, the national transportation safety board is continuing its review. the ntsb shared video with cnn showing ntsb and coast guard investigators moving around on the bow of the dali right at the point of impact, the closest view we've gotten so far of the sheer devastation of this disaster esther so when will the channel be open to shipping traffic? >> i don't think we're talking days. i don't think we're talking months. once we get started, i think we're talking weeks >> and we're told that president biden will be visiting baltimore in the coming days. the white house will put out more information later on the exact de that he will be here we'll ryan todd reporting from baltimore. thank you, brian. very much coming
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joining me right now, viktor, just how unique is this album unique enough to get me in this hat in the situation room will when i first heard that the original singles texas hold him and 16 carriages about the time of the super bowl, i was expecting that would be the flavor a contemporary country tree album. this is so much more than that. there is folk and pop and hip hop and rap, an opera. there's certainly country influence and flavor and willie nelson and dali partner on this album in short interludes mostly for their endorsement. but it really challenges the concept of musical genres and especially racial constraints on musical genres. she features linda martell on this album and she says martell says genres are a funny little concept. what martell, more than 50 years ago was the first black woman to have commercial and chart success in country music and was pilloried for transitioning from r&b into country. she also
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