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or just stop by granger for the ones who get it done how it really happen tonight at nine on cnn you. have this crisis dozens of arrests at universities overnight as colleges, police, and politicians take sides, we have to bring order to these campuses. the american people are fed up. >> how should liters? >> respond? vermont senator bernie sanders joins me, then los angeles mayor karen bass, and virginia governor glenn youngkin. and sounding off, president biden hopes donald trump's legal troubles, drought was that she trump days lately, you might call it stormy weather. >> but what does a brand new cnn poll reveal about those states? if the race, our panel of experts is here plus order in the court with more delay,

likely in his january 6 case, residents have to have immunity our trump's legal and political strategies working south carolina senator lindsey graham is next hello i'm dana bash and washington where the state of our union is deeply divided. we'd begin this morning with new numbers in the presidential race. donald trump is spending hours each day in a new york courtroom in his criminal hush money trial. but on the campaign trail, a brand new cnn poll well out this morning shows trump's sustaining his lead over president biden, among registered voters, 49 to 43% with more saying they consider trump's presidency is success. then biden's last night, biden sought to capitalize on his opponents legal woes at the white house correspondents dinner is the only thing we have in common my vice president actually endorses me

it with me now with republican senator lindsey graham, the top republican on the judiciary committee, and a supporter of donald trump. >> we have a lot of developments to talk about in the middle east, senator, but i do want to start on the unprecedented week for the former president, the fate of donald trump's claim of absolute immunity is now in the hands. instead, the supreme court. during oral arguments on thursday, trump's lawyers suggested that any former president should not be charged for ordering the military to stage a coup unless he was impeached and convicted first do you agree with that but i think the court's going to find that presidential immunity exists for president trump like every other president. >> but you've got to be within the scope of being president. i think they'll send it back to the lower courts. to find out exactly what actions fall within presidential immunity in

water considered personal. i think that's the way this will end. it will be some immunity for some of the actions so it sounds to me like you're saying that that scenario does not justify immunity, that kind of scenario, an attempted coup and that there should be some, there's no absolute, yeah, there's immunity. >> there's no absolute immunity in the constitution. it will be a legal analysis. the president needs to be protected. we don't become a banana republic here. we prosecute you know, are political opponents, which is going on really in many jurisdictions. but i think the immunity question will be decided did partially for trump and some legal some factual analysis as to when and where to place it. >> you said that it's likely to go back to a lower court which seems to certainly be what was thinking. yeah. watching and listening to what the justices we're saying that certainly

means it's more likely that the american people won't know how this is going to end before they go to the polls. does that worry you know, they know. yeah. no, not at all. no you know what you asked me, would any if he's convicted in these trials? house, would it changed my view? no. >> i think all these trials are political. >> i think is selective prosecution. i think what's going on in new york is an outrage that the cases eight years ago, they created a crime just for trump. i think it's selective prosecution for political purposes the jack smith trial i'll is selective prosecution. they didn't go after clinton. they didn't go after biden on classified information breaches. so i think most americans are not going to decide how to vote based on trump's legal troubles, but their troubles, they face inflation crime or broken border. your poll tells me everything i need to know about these legal problems or trump people are looking at their problems, not trump's

legal problems. >> you mentioned the case in new york, of course that is something that is ongoing. and i just do want to ask you one specific question about what we heard this past week, and that is david pecker who ran the national enquirer's parent company tests to find that he paid to catch and kill stories about trump's specifically to help his presidential campaign. >> you don't any concerns about that apparently a lot of people do this. arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods? no, i think the whole thing is they're croc the statute of limitations has long shut out the misdemeanor cases. so this liberal prosecutor manhattan came up with a federal campaign violation that he state of new york southern district of new york looked at the federal election commission, looked at jack smith, looked at and decided not to prosecute alvin bragg took a case that was rejected by the federal government to resurrect these

misdemeanors, i think is a political hit job on trump, six months before the election. that's what i think. >> all right. obviously, tiger words tiger woods is not running for president in the allegation, does it back, at least not yet, know how got it. yeah. i think the whole thing is bs yeah, i think it's all bs yeah. political bs and just you know, just just to underscore something you said earlier if he is convicted, you will still support him in both for him absolutely. i think what's going on with donald trump is weaponization of the law. he's been prosecuted in a manhattan, one of the deepest blue state cities in the country, georgia and fulton county jack smith is going after trump, but clinton in biden anyway, i think most people have written this off. they're going to focus on their problems. not a bunch of cases brought by liberals against trump. >> senator, i want to talk to you about the middle east, because secretary of state

blinken is on his way to saudi arabia after he said on friday that he thinks it is possible to strike a deal to normalize relations between saudi arabia and israel, even without a ceasefire in gaza, you were in saudi arabia very recently, last month, and you are pushing for this normalization deal. is there a deal close at hand? a deal that prime minister netanyahu should accept i hope so. >> so i've been working with tony and jake and i've talked to president biden twice. i want to help them normalized saudi arabian, israel saudi arabia wants a mutual defense agreement. the united states, we've been working on for weeks to tony and jake get on with closing the deal on the treaty without the treaty mbs cannot recognize israel and part of the deal will be coming up with a solution to the palestinian problem saudi arabia wants her defense agreement with the united states. so i'm wondering enrich the 7% of the world's uranium they have, but will control

enrichment and they'll recognize his or but we've got to deal with the palestinian problem. we're running out of time. this would be an historic agreement building on the abraham or gourds. and i'd like to see it happen. i'd like to help president biden get this done without this deal. there is no solution to the palestinian problem, would that this deal, everything gets worse. so let's get the deal done. we're running out of time. >> my colleagues here at cnn have some reporting that you and crown prince mohamed bin salman had a short conversation with donald trump while you are in saudi arabia maybe yeah. what is donald trump? think about this. you said building on the abraham accords, he hasn't necessarily been keen on president biden getting things done and getting credit for that. are you worried? hold kill it, or tried to kill it? >> but i've talked to president trump not very long ago. he wants the killing to end. he would like to see peace rain. we're going to have an election here in november, but can we save some lives before

november? i'm confident that the abraham accords put in place the possibility that still, if we can get the deal, between saudi arabia and israel, it is the arab-israeli conflict. it isolates the uranian. it creates some hope for the palestinians. it provides security in a real way to israel. yeah, i don't think anybody on the republican side is going to undercut the deal. i'm here on national television telling the biden administration, if you can, land is still i think you'll have a lot of republicans support the united states senate for treaty between saudi arabia and the united states, coaston to be good for israel, it'd be good for the world. and i think president trump will get his fair share credit by having the abraham accords as the foundation of this. so i'm not worried about that. i'm worried about getting the deal done before the clock runs out center. >> thank you so much for joining me. i hope you come back because i do want to talk more about whether or not you think that israeli prime minister will sign on to that. but i guess that's putting the cart before the proverbial

horse thanks again for coming on i'm hopeful people in israel can get there and we'll get there. >> i think they want to thank you. >> okay. thank you. i'd up next some colleges crack down overnight on campus protests. senator bernie sanders is here to respond next and later, the funniest jokes at washington's political dinner last night before i. begin tonight, can we just acknowledge how refreshing it is to see a president of the united states and an event that doesn't begin with a bailiff saying all arise the sinking of the titanic, how would really happen, especially to our premier, tonight at nine on cnn. >> so i went to experian. they actually helped lower my monthly bills, phone, internet experience at the work, also subscriptions i forgot about

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college campuses overnight from arizona to st. louis has some universities are cracking down on protests in response to the israel war here with me is independent senator bernie sanders of vermont. thank you so much for being here sir israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said this week that college protests in the are being led by quote anti-semitic mobs. you responded by accusing him of quote, attempting to distract us from the immoral and illegal war policies of your extremist and racist government. and you said, quote, it is not antisymmetric to hold you accountable for your actions center camp, both things be true. there are legitimate criticisms of the netanyahu government but some of these protests have also clearly tapped into a deep undercurrent of antisemitism dana antisemitism is a vile and disgusting ideology which has

resulted in the deaths of many, many millions of people in the last hundred years. >> and we've got to oppose it in every form and do i doubt for a moment that anti-semitism exists that is growing in the united states. that is plot that exist among some people in the protest movement. of course but here is the reality right now. what net right-wing extremist and racist government is doing, is unprecedented in modern history of warfare they have killed in the last 6.5 months, 33,000 palestinians wounded 77,000 thirds of whom are women and children they have destroyed over 60% of the housing. they have destroyed that health care system they have destroyed the infrastructure no electricity, very little water. and right now we are looking at the possibility of mass starvation and famine in gaza when you

make those charges, that is not anti symmetric, that is a reality so our job is to condemn hamas, a terrorist organization that started this war. condemn in every form, anti-semitism, islamophobia, and other forms of bigotry. but we do have to pay attention to the disastrous in unprecedented humanitarian disaster taking place in gaza right now, no question. >> there's a humanitarian crisis and as you know, the israeli government would argue that just in the hospital example that you gave, that it is hamas's fault that they're being bombed because hamas puts tunnels underneath and puts their own civilians innocent women and children at risk knowing full well that this is, that this is going to happen, but go ahead hamas's luck for mahsa is a very difficult enemy to fight. >> that is true. >> but three york times just

reported a few days ago and i have talked to doctors american doctors who have been over there. >> that's been a systemic systematic effort to destroy the health care system to destroy the infrastructure, to destroy how's it? they are completely demolishing gaza, right now. and god what happens in the future. >> i want to ask you a little bit more about these protests that are going on here in the united states. and listen to one of the leaders of the columbia protests ninas they don't deserve to live comfortably, let alone zionists don't deserve to live now. i want to be clear that protester was just banned from campus, but it isn't an isolated some jewish students say this is stupid. >> but they're not isolated. >> stupid remark. >> all right, but it's not an isolated, but you have doubts

like a deep look beyond the protests. how did the american people feel about us military aid to how government? >> but that's not about, but that's not about military aid. that's about jews what this guy said was discussing period, and i've got hope that every american condemns anti-semitic discussion. but what i am talking about right now is what netanyahu was trying to do very clearly is the say, anybody who criticizes what israel. >> so you are antisymmetric well, are there some anti-semites? will you just sold one? yeah when i'm saying is if you look at the polling league, vast majority of the american people are disgusted with netanyahu's war machine in gaza and they do not want for the us military aid to his government you know, i i've gotten texts from students one in michigan in particular who said that he has to take his jewish star off because people aren't asking about his his

view on israel, which is might, might be just like yours. but they're just looking at his jewish star and they're attacking him because he's jewish. so how do you square that? >> let me say let me say that for the third time i'm jewish my father's family was wiped out by hitler anti-semitism is disgusting and vial form of bigotry, which has killed millions of people i would hope that every american condemns antisemitism. we condemn islamophobia and all forms of bigotry from what he is doing in gaza right now, which is in terms of humanitarian disaster, unprecedented in modern american history, 5% and 6.5 months, 5% of the population has been killed or wounded. two-thirds of whom are women and children, and netanyahu oh, it's got be held accountable for those actions.

>> senator, i do want to ask you about something that your friend and colleague, congresswoman ilhan omar, said when she visited colombia this week, and she supported the protests i think it is really unfortunate that people don't care about the fact that all jewish kids should be kept safe and that we should not have to tolerate and semitism or bigotry for all jewish students, whether they are pro genocide or anti genocide some jewish students are pro genocide. >> are you comfortable with that so i'm sorry, someone she said some jewish students pro genocide. is that something that you're comfortable with that well, i don't know exactly what i think the essential point that l. >> khan made is that we do not want to see anti-semitism in this country. and i think the word genocide is something that is being determined by the

international court of justice but just is what i will say i don't think there's any doubt that when yahoo is doing now displacing 80% of the population in gaza is ethnic cleansing. that's what it is pushing out huge numbers of people. and now we're looking at the possibility of an attack on rafah, where people have gone for so-called is a safety zone so what's going on there again, to my mind is outrageous. and as you've indicated, are strongly oppose us funding for netanyahu's war machine. >> okay, one last question. i know that you said that to president biden that you were very concerned about the us continuing to send aid and weaponry to israel. what was his response? >> i'm not going to talk about the personal conversations i have with the president, but are just would say that i think i n a majority of the american people do not want to be complicit in the humanitarian disaster that netanyahu is causing? in gaza right now senator bernie sanders, i

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been canceled. >> here with me here in the studio is los angeles mayor karen bass. thank you so much for being here. it's nice to see you. we're going to, we're going to talk about that and other issues, but i first have to ask about how you are, how your family is a man broke into your home last weekend in-between police shifts, your daughter, your son-in-law, and newborn grandson, were there yes. >> we're all doing fine. thank you so much for asking it was definitely very, very disturbing especially with the family there, but he was captured on site. and so we're doing much better. >> good. i'm glad to hear that let's talk about what i led into the segment width, which of course are the protests going on on college campuses, including at usc, almost 100 people have been arrested. the campus terror temporarily closed overnight protesters damaged statue of fountain on campus, and the school abruptly canceled commencement

ceremonies there. this is the same class that had their high school graduates and canceled in 2020 because of the pandemic. as a usc alum yourself, was that the right decision to cancel? >> well, actually, you know, they didn't cancel everything. so the main graduation is canceled, but the individual schools have graduations as well. so there's a lot of ceremonies that will be taking place, but like you said, i share that also the idea that they miss their graduation four years ago, but hopefully their individual schools we'll go forward peacefully and the main graduation being canceled. >> do you support that it well, i believe that that was a decision that they had to make. they were expecting about 65,000 people on campus and they just did not feel that it was going to be safe. and the job of the president, just like my job as mayor, my number one and job is to make sure that angelinos are safe some protesters are opposing alleged human rights abuses from israel inside gaza some are just

outright supporting hamas calling for the elimination of israel, jewish students are saying that they're scared for their safety. >> are you comfortable with the messages that you're hearing? and if not, what? >> can you do about it as mayor? well, i mean, as mayor, people have the right to free speech, but, you know, hate speech antisemitism, all of that, it's just unacceptable. all students on the campus need to feel safe and you know, there's protests going on at usc and at ucla. it seems to be a different picture ucla has. again, my job is to make sure that angelinos are safe and i will continue to do that. do you sport support the notion of the arrests that we have seen? >> well, i mean, if somebody is committing a crime, i know that one of the things that was happening at usc yesterday was vandalism around the campus. and obviously that is unaccepted.

>> protestors are calling for universities to divest from companies linked to israel what do you think of that? well, you know, i mean that is a movement that is taking place, but my focus in los angeles has really been on the 46,000 people that are sleeping on the street who are homeless. we have people on the street dying three to five a day and that is my focus. that's the reason why i ran and it's the reason why i'm here in dc right now. >> let's talk about that. you did lay out a new plan this wave to fight homelessness by asking wealthy residents and philanthropist for more funding. focusing on veterans like you're talking to? people like you're doing, as you mentioned here in dc why do you think this plan is more likely to work? then in the past, the problem is so extensive in los angeles as well as in other cities that we have to have a variety of strategies so m just be clear. >> i'm here this week with the us conference of mayors.

there's probably going to be about 50 mayors here from about 18 different states. and we have found that there is policy old, outdated policy that actually contributes to veterans, people who fought on behalf of our country to be on the street. so for example, a veteran in many cases has to choose between their veteran benefits or housing, because if they take all their benefits, than their income is so high that they don't qualify for housing. and that is just unacceptable housing is there, but they can't access it. so we're calling on our federal part nurse to close that loophole so that veterans can get their benefits and be how's the strategy that we've been using over the last year? we call it a program inside safe, where we move people immediately from tents into housing. and one of the most important things that we saw in the last year is that people are willing and ready to lead leave the streets. so we have destroyed the myth that people choose to be on the streets and that they won't leave. the

other thing is that we called for a capital campaign, a traditional capital campaign buildings are built at universities, hospitals, faith institutions, and so when we call upon the wealthy to contribute. it's two-way capital campaign that is one of probably 12 different strategies that we're using to address this problem in los angeles. let me say one other thing to one problem that we really have to solve is how to prevent people from falling into homelessness to begin with, on any given month, we can get hundreds of people well off the street, but then hundreds call fall on the streets as well, have to have a comprehensive approach. this the mayor's bipartisan group of mayors, because this is a bipartisan issue, are here to meet with the administration. the senate, and the house to say, please close this veteran loophole. >> we were at a time. but before i let you go on the show a year ago, you said you hope to eliminate street homelessness by the end of your first term in 2026, i still

hope to do that and still achievable out. well, we shall see, we've done pretty well so far, a lot more to do american bass. >> thank you so much for being here. thanks for her and for years, republicans have criticized safe spaces on college campuses. >> has that changed? >> i'll ask republican governors glenn youngkin next to me, harlem is but home is also your body. >> last one, everyone i asked myself, why does it pilates exist in harlem so i started my own studio, get in a brick-and-mortar in new york is not easy. choice. a inke supported us from studio one to studio three. when you start small, you need some big help and chase ink with that for me earn up to 5% cash back home business essentials. but the chaste inke business cash cart and chase for business make moment. what's you will mate

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columbia university. >> and this is cnn welcome back to state of the union. >> we are six months from the presidential election. my next guest sided against making a ron himself and he's back in. former president trump here with me now from germany where he is leading a trade mission and meeting with american service members is virginia republican governor glenn youngkin. governor. thank you so much for joining us. you were there on your third international trade mission since becoming governor. you've made building business ties overseas at priority. you know that many in your party do not see it that way, including your party's nominee, donald trump. he doesn't share your views why do you think this is so

important well, first of all, dana, thank you for having me today and it's amazing to be here at ramstein air base to visit with these extraordinary men and women who are on the front line of projecting america's capabilities around the world. it is the gateway for america's military here. and it's so important for us to come and support them in a honore and myself, great virginians here as well today. and this global economic strength is national security. and it's critically important for us to have deep relationships with our trusted allies. i think we've done a great job in the commonwealth of virginia in bringing companies two virginia, but also developing relationships around the world. last year, i was in taiwan, japan, and south korea. and now i'm going to be in germany and denmark and finland and it's an incredibly important opportunity for us to deepen these relationships. and i think it also represents the fact that our economy is not performing as it should be. i

mean, the reality is, we have low growth and high inflation. it should be flip-flopped. we should have low inflation and high growth. and it's part of our economic mission to build that i do think president trump built that when he was president. i think we're suffering under joe biden's leadership economically, virginia has done incredibly well over the last couple of years is we've we've rebounded aggressively with more people working than ever. and i'm going to continue to work to bring jobs to virginia, but also to make sure we have great relationships around the world. >> let me just follow up on on trade and specifically, trump is threatening to impose a new 10% tariff on all foreign imports to the us. is that something that you support? >> i believe first of all, that we have trusted allies around the world that we must develop even deeper relationships with and as i said, it's one of the reasons this is why i was in asia last year and in europe this year. those relationships must be strengthened. they must

be deepen because the reality is that china particularly is trying to dominate the world that america is expense and we must build these trusted allies and supply chains into the most important industries like semiconductors. and that's something that we're continuing to work for in the commonwealth of virginia so i think president trump strongly believes in building america busy america's business and that's part of bringing so many companies home to america. the pharmaceutical industry the manufacturing industry, and of course, the semiconductor, semiconductor industry. we've seen a lot of that in virginia and that's what we're building there too. >> so no, on the 10% tariffs on all foreign imports yeah, i think that the specifics of, of combating unfair trade practices are going to need to be levered, levied against particular countries that are we're not trading fairly. >> but we also, as i said, need to strengthen our relationships with our most trusted allies. and that's part of i think not

only having a successful economic strategy, but also as national charity strategy. >> governor, i want to ask you, you are obviously in germany, but you're no doubt keeping close tabs on what's happening here in the including in your home commonwealth of virginia. and that is protests on college campuses. it includes virginia tech in virginia, back in november. you met with the leaders and you said, quote, when it comes to to freedom of expression, we have to create an environment that protects the ability to challenge conventional thinking. how does that guide your approach to protests? now well first we have to begin with the fact that freedom of expression and peacefully demonstrating is at the heart of our first amendments. >> and we must protect it. but, but that does not go to, in

fact, intimidating jewish students and preventing them from attending class. and and using annihilation speech to express deeply anti-semitic views and therefore, i have been working with our attorney general, jason mijares are universal to be president's law enforcement at the state, local, and campus level to make sure that if there are protests, they're peaceful, we're not going to have encampments intense put up and yes, we will protect the ability to peacefully express yourself. but we're not going to have the kinds of hate speech and intimidation that we're seeing across the country in virginia governor, i really appreciate your time it is a very, very windy their day. they're in germany and thank you so much for coming out and spending some time with us. appreciate it. >> dana, thank you. thank you for having me. and once again, god bless our troops around the world that are keeping america safe you, know that old saying about if you want a friend in washington, get a dog.

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co-anchored michael che was going to join me here tonight. >> but in solidarity with president biden, i decided to lose all my black support now once absolute trough days lately, you might call it stormy weather welcome back to state of the union. >> a lot of jokes at the white house correspondents dinner last night, we'll talk about that with my esteemed panel here. nice to see you all. i'm glad you're awake barely any coffee on the table. >> that's shocking to me me what did you think? and i'll start with you about the jokes that were funny. but that last part there, where the president talks about stormy weather, he actively avoids all discussion about the trials and this is a way to get it. on the record while doing it through humor there was a lot of trial jokes, right? not just from the precedent, but also from the comedian. i thought both of them handled it very well.

look, obviously republicans and donald trump is trying to make this a joe biden trial. it's a joe biden leading a witch hunt. so i think the less he talks about it in a serious way and a campaign wait, the better why get in the middle of donald trump when he's hurting himself at this trial. >> but i thought us as far as poking on at him it was hilarious i agree especially when they started talking about him, barton his way through everything it's night, it was like we were doing so well stinky. >> it must be in that courtroom. but nevertheless, i think is really important that the american people see the president being able to hit back. because when i talked democrats, would they want to see is someone who's strong and a lot of times people characterize trump is being the guy that's the boolean he's punching and democrats end up being punching bags. and i think that it's important every sense the state of the union in that the president show up and show that he can not only take

a punch, but he can deliver a blow as well. and i think he said that last night, actually parked though that nobody laughed at the colin made a joke about was in our polling shows that trump's winning. >> well, let me pull that up to college or to make a joke, he's like this guy's up their, this guy's this. >> and mr. president, even how losing hold that thought because i want to show our viewers this is the sort of top line for a new national poll of registered voters, 49%, trump i think we have it 43% biden. there you go continue your thoughts. >> so while the boston washington megalopolis crowd, right, the people in new york and dc, what did balls, the liver liberal elites rather just say this the liberal elites think, but last night was hilarious, right? the flyover states, right? the thousands of counties across america have voted for trump, didn't watch that last night and they're, they're they're sediments are reflected in that poll. and the biden administration and team biden, they're whistling past the graveyard here they're whistle

and passive graveyards, you can have a great night last night, but they're gonna be back on the trail and they're pushing a big rock up a hill and a lot of states, interestingly, no networks showed what was happening outside the hilton last night. >> tons of protests. we did tons of protest i missed i missed it. i didn't see it. >> so you're inside drinking so convention coming up with chicago the party's got to get there. they're going to have to get an answer for a lot of questions that people want here are the economy, the border on and on and on. so we'll see it's gonna be, it's close race sure. >> i don't know what one has to do with the other there last night was a night for comedy and supporting the first amendment and journalism in mission accomplished. yeah, it was not a forum or a venue to put out policy. it wasn't the state of the union, it wasn't even a chance to say, look, we know the american people are hurting. it was a night a fun and celebration, and we deserve it. journalists deserve it. joe biden deserved a night out, and

we're living in such absurdist times. >> but if the president of the united states did not make fun of his opponent for spending his time on trial for hush money payments to a porn star, then he is not living this is where you go. >> yeah. if that's what's happening and you know what else i found yesterday i was i was thinking it was a kind of a return to normalcy know why? >> because during the trump years, this is yet another one of those events that was ruined because of trump. they don't mean we ended up with a historian instead of a comedian because he's thin-skinned and can't take a joke and has no there for some of those and then store that comedian that was there as i'm sure you might remember, that since been ex-communicated for the community. let's talk let's turn back to the campaign trail and what you brought up. >> the polling. yeah, that's exactly. are you worried about a congress? >> here's the deal. polls don't vote, people do number one. number two, if that was the case, hillary would have been the president. i mean, i'm just saying, so here's the deal. do i think that there's issues that we need to deal with? absolutely. you talk

about the fact that protesters were outside. that is a real issue, especially for young people and people of color as well as the muslim community. so it is going to have to be dealt with and it's something that we can't just avoid. but unfortunately, we need this war to actually progress to the point that it sort of progress to a long ago, it needs to end. >> we need to make sure that people stopped dying over there, right. but i'll probably john fetterman school here. we need retry agree with my car. was senator john fetterman for pennsylvania and tomorrow, hamas just turn them over, turnover the hawks and there's an end that's over listen, i don't disagree with it, obviously, but it's not necessarily easy to deal with people like hamas. >> we're talking about a terrorist organization, and that's part of the problem. but right now, as we see what's happening on our campuses, as we see the vision that's taking place in this country, it's going to be absolutely important that we address this head on. there is no avoiding it. i think ultimately though

as it relates to the polling, people aren't going to come out really because of either one of them. i'll be honest obviously, maga is always going to come out for trump but right now, people are voting based on issues such as abortion, okay. >> i have to ask you all to weigh in on governor kristi gnomes this is something that she wrote in her book that she killed a 14 month old puppy and a goat on her family farm and three horses. and three horses? that it wasn't a pleasant job, but it had to be done. and after it was over, i realized another unpleasant job needed to be done and then she went on to talk about her goat. this has definitely gone viral. and that is an understatement. >> okay. changsha. changsha stands in solidarity with cocktail your dog? yes, i can i when i first heard about this, i really thought this was made up because number one, i couldn't believe somebody would do that, kill a puppy who killed in imagery and then write about it in her mouth. i'm laura. i mean, is it

something that she thinks is so normal that you actually write about it? >> i'm old enough to remember when mitt romney that the bejesus beat out of him because he tied a dog to the dog sar, but i hunt over dogs. okay. this is not a thing. there are 592 other things you can do with a dog that won't besides kill it in front of your kid and construction workers. i don't know if this was an attempt to look tough on a farm. remember joni ernst was talking about castrating pigs when she came in, was running for senate like it's a thing some women feel like they have to visit, just did that land i don't know if someone that has shut her publisher hatzor for letting her put this in, my publisher would say sc i cannot in good consciousness, let you keep this in the book. it is awful. >> maybe she's auditioning for crueler develop. >> we're at a time, guys. thank you so much for being here and i'm going to actually after a late night. thank you. you so much for spending your sunday morning with us, carried the carrier, picks it up next

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