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you have this crisis. >> dozens of arrest is that universities overnight as colleges, police, and politicians take sides. we have to bring order to these campus excuse me american people are fed up. >> how should liters respond? vermont senator bernie sanders joins me, then los angeles mayor karen bass, and virginia can you, governor glenn youngkin, and sounding off, president biden hopes fun at donald trump's legal troubles. dollars, that's your trump days lately, you might call it stormy weather. but what it is a brand new cnn poll reveal about the state of the race. our panel of experts is here, plus order in the court with
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mortgage next hello i'm dana bash and washington where the state of our union anion is deeply divided. >> we begin this morning with new numbers in the presidential race. donald trump is spending hours each day in new york courtroom in his criminal hush money trial. but on the campaign trail, a brand new cnn poll out this morning shows trump's sustaining his lead over president biden, among registered voters, 49 two, 43% with more saying they considered trump's presidency a success, then biden's last night, biden talked to capitalize on his opponents legal woes at the white house correspondents dinner is the only thing we have in common my vice president actually endorses me it with me now with republican senator lindsey graham, the top republican on the judiciary committee, and a supporter of donald trump we
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have a lot of developments to talk about in the middle east, senator, but i do want to start on the unprecedented week for the former president, the fate of donald trump's claim of absolute immunity is now in the hands at the supreme court during oral arguments on thursday, trump's lawyers suggested that any former president should not be charged for ordering the military to stage a coup unless he was impeached and convicted. first. >> do you agree with that well i think the court's going to find that presidential immunity exists for president trump like every other president. >> but you've got to be within the scope of, of being president. i think they'll send it back to the lower courts to find out exactly what actions fall within presidential immunity in water considered personal i think that's the way this will end. it will be some immunity for some of the actions so it sounds to me like you're saying that that scenario does not justify
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immunity, that kind of scenario, an attempted coup and that there should be some, there's no absolute, yeah, there's well, there will be immunity. >> there's no absolute immunity in the constitution. it would be a legal analysis you know, the president needs to be protected we don't become a banana republic here. we prosecute, you know are political opponents, which is going on really in many jurisdictions. but i think the immunity question will be decided partially for trump and some legal some factual analysis as to when and where to place. >> you said that it's like plate to go back to a lower court which seems to certainly be what was thinking. yeah. watching and listening to what the justices were saying that certainly means it's more likely that the american people won't know how this is going to end before they go to the polls. does that worry you? >> they know. they know. yeah.
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no, not at all. no you know, once you asked me would any if he's convicted in these trials, would it change my view? no. >> i think all these trials are political. >> i think is selective prosecution. i think what's going on in new york is an outrage. the cases two, eight years ago, they created a crime just for trump. i think it's selective prosecution for political purposes. the jack smith trial is selective prosecution. they didn't go after clinton, they didn't go after biden on classified information breaches. so i think most americans are not going to decide how to vote based on trump's legal we'll troubles, but their troubles, they face inflation crime, or broken border, your poll tells me everything i need to know about these legal problems or trump. people are looking at their problems, not trump's legal problems. >> you mentioned the case in new york, of course that is something that is ongoing and i just do want to ask you one specific question about what we heard this past week. and that
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is david pecker who ran the national enquirer's parent company, testified that paid to catch and kill stories about trump's specifically to help his presidential campaign you don't have any concerns about that apparently, a lot of people do this. >> arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods? no, i think the whole thing is a croc the statute of limitations has long shut out the misdemeanor cases so this liberal prosecutor, manhattan came up with a federal campaign violation that the state of new york southern district of new york looked at the federal election commission, looked at jack smith, looked at and decided not to prosecute good alvin bragg took a case that was rejected by the federal government to resurrect these misdemeanors, i think it's a political hit job on trump six months before the election. that's what i think all right.
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>> obviously, tiger words, it tiger woods is not running for president and allegation, does it back, it's not. yeah. >> yeah. i think the whole thing is bs yeah, i think it's all bs yeah. political bs and just go ahead. no, no, it just and just to underscore something you said earlier if he is convicted, you will still support him in vote for him absolutely. i think what's going on with donald trump is weaponization of the law. >> he's been prosecuted in a manhattan one of the deepest blue state cities in the country georgia and fulton county jack smith is going after trump, but clinton in biden anyway, i think most people people have written this off. they're going to focus on their problems. not a bunch of cases brought by liberals against trump senator, i want to talk to you about the middle east because secretary of state blinken is on his way to saudi arabia after he said on friday that he thinks it is possible to strike a deal to normalize relations between saudi arabia and israel, even without a
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ceasefire in gaza, you in saudi arabia very recently, last month, and you are pushing for this normalization deal. >> is there a deal close at hand? a deal that prime minister netanyahu should accept i hope so. >> so i've been working with tony and jake and i've talked to president biden twice. i want to help them normalized saudi arabian, israel saudi arabia wants a mutual defense agreement. the united states, we've been working on for weeks to tony and jake get on with closing the deal on the treaty without the treaty mbs cannot recognize israel in part of the deal will be coming up with a solution to the palestinian problem. saudi arabia won't. so defense agreement with the united states. so i'm wondering enrich the 7% of the world's uranium they have but will control enrichment and they'll recognize his are. but we gotta deal with the palestinian problem. we're running out of time. this would be an historic agreement building on the abraham accords. and i'd like to see it happen. i'd like to
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help president biden get this done at without this deal, there is no solution to the palestinian problem was that this deal, everything gets worse. so let's get the deal done. we're running out of time. >> my colleagues here at cnn have some reporting that you and crown prince mohammed bin salman had a short conversation with donald trump while you were in saudi arabia yeah. what is donald trump? think about this. you said building on the abraham accords, he hasn't necessarily been keen on president biden getting things done and getting credit for that, or you've already whole kill it, or tried to kill it? >> but i've told the president trump not very long ago, he wants the killing to end. he would like to see peace rain. we're going to have an election here in november, but can we save some lives before november? i'm confident that the abraham accords put in place the possibility that still, if we can get it a deal, between saudi arabia and israel, it is the arab-israeli
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conflict. it isolates the uranian. it creates some hope for the palestinians. it provides security in a real way to israel. yeah, i don't think anybody on the republican side is going to undercut the deal. i'm here on national television telling the biden administration, if you can, land is still i think you'll have a lot of republicans support in the united states senate for treaty between saudi arabia and the united states caused her to be good for israel. it be good for the world. and i think president trump will get his fair share credit by having the abraham accords as the foundation of this. so i'm not worried about that. i'm worried about getting the deal done before the clock runs out center. >> thank you so much for joining me. i hope you come back because i do want to talk more about whether or not you think that israeli prime minister will sign on to that. but i guess that's putting the cart before the proverbial horse thanks again for coming on i'm hopeful people in israel can get there and we'll get there. >> i think they want to thank you. >> okay. thank you. end up next some colleges crack down
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independent senator bernie sanders of vermont. thank you so much for being here. sir. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said this week that college protests and the are being led by quote, anti-semitic mobs. you responded by accusing him of quote attempting to distract us from the immoral and illegal war policies of your extremist and racist government. and you said, quote, it is not anti-semitic i'd like to hold you accountable for your actions center camp, both things be true. >> there are legitimate criticisms of the netanyahu government, but some of these protests have also clearly tapped into a deep undercurrent of antisemitism ghana antisemitism is a vile and disgusting ideology which has resulted in the deaths of many, many millions of people in the last hundred years. >> and we've got to oppose it in every form. and do i doubt
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for a moment that anti-semitism exists that is growing in the united states. that is part that exists among some people in the protest movement. of course but here is the reality, right now, what netanyahu's right-wing extremist and racist government is doing, is unprecedented in modern history of warfare they have killed in the last 6.5 months, 33,000 palestinians wounded 77,000 thirds of whom are women and children say if destroyed over 60% of the housing de, up destroyed that healthcare system. they have destroyed the infrastructure. no electricity, very little water. and right now we are looking at the possibility of mass starvation and famine in gaza when you make those charges, that is not anti that is a reality so our job is to condemn hamas, a
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terrorist organization that started this war. condemn and every form anti-semitism, islamophobia and other forms of bigotry. but we do have to pay attention to the disastrous and unprecedented humanitarian disaster taking place in gaza right now, no question. >> there's a humanitarian crisis and as you know, the israeli government would argue that just in the hospital example that you gave, that it is hamas's fault that they're being bombed because hamas puts tunnels underneath and puts their own civilians, innocent women and children at risk knowing full well that this is that this is going to happen, but go ahead so mosses look for mahsa is a very difficult enemy to fight. >> that is true. but the new york times just reported a few days ago and i have talked to doctors american doctors who have been over there has been a systemic systematic effort to
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destroy the healthcare system to destroy the infrastructure, to destroy how's it? they are completely demolishing gaza, right now. and god knows what happens in the future. >> i want to ask you a little bit more about these protests that are going on here in the united states. and listened to one of the leaders of the columbia protests design is they don't deserve to live comfortably. let alone zionists don't deserve to live now i want to be clear that protester was just banned from campus, but it isn't an isolated in some jewish students say this thing is stupid. >> but not isolated. >> stupid remark. >> all right, but it's not an isolated, but you'll have donalds take a deep look beyond the protests. >> how did the american people feel about us military aid to how government? >> but that's not about, but
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that's not about military aid. that's about jews what this guy said was disgusting, period. >> and i've got hope that every american condemns anti-semitic discussion. >> but what i am talking about right now is what netanyahu was trying to do very clearly as the say, anybody who criticizes what israel is, what you are anti-semitic? >> well, are there are some anti-semites? will you just sold one? yeah when i'm saying is if you look at the polling, the vast majority of the american people are disgusted with netanyahu's war machine in gaza, and they do not want for the us military aid to his government you know, i i've gotten texts from students one in michigan in particular who said that he has to take us jewish star off because people aren't asking him about his, his view on israel, which is might, might be just like yours. but they're just looking at his jewish star and they're attacking him because he's jewish. so how do you square that let me say let me
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say that for the third time i'm jewish my father's family was wiped out by hitler anti-semitism is disgusting and vial form of bigotry which has killed millions of people. >> i would hope that every american condemns antisemitism. we condemn islamophobia and all forms of bigotry from what he is doing in gaza right now, which is in terms of humanitarian disaster, unprecedented in modern american history, 5% and 6.5 months, 5% of the population as we killed or wounded, two-thirds of whom are women and children and netanyahu well, it's got be held accountable for those actions. >> senator, i do want to ask you about something that your friend and colleague, congresswoman ilhan omar, said when she visited colombia this week, and she supported the
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protests i think it is really unfortunate that people don't care about the fact that all jewish kids should be kept safe and that you should not have to tolerate on thai semitism or bigotry for all jewish students, whether they are pro genocide or anti genocide some jewish students are pro genocide. >> are you comfortable with that so i'm sorry, someone. she said, some jewish students pro genocide. is that something that you're comfortable with that? >> well, i don't know exactly what i think the essential point that l. khan made is that we do not want to see anti-semitism in this country. and i think the word genocide is something that is being determined by the international court of justice. but just as what i will say i don't think there's any doubt that when yahoo is doing now displacing 80% of the population in gaza
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is ethnic cleansing. that's what it is pushing out huge numbers of people. and now we're looking at the possibility of an attack on rafah, where people have gone for so-called is a safety zone. so what's going on there again, to my mind is outrageous and as you've indicated, are strongly opposed us funding for netanyahu's war machine. >> okay, one last question. i know that you said that to president biden that you were very concerned about the us continuing to send aid and weaponry to israel. what was his response? >> i'm not going to talk about the personal conversations i have with the president, but i would say that i think i n a majority of the american people do not want to be complicit in the humanitarian disaster, the netanyahu is causing? in gaza right now senator bernie sanders, i really appreciate you coming on this morning. thank you thank you very much and up next los angeles mayor karen bass, she set a goal to
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visit coventry direct.com i'm elizabeth wagmeister in los angeles in this is cnn welcome back to state of the union overnight, the lapd issued a tactical alert amid protests at the university of southern california where the commencement ceremony for this year's graduates has been canceled. >> here with me here in the studio is los angeles mayor karen bass. thank you so much for being here. it's nice to see you. we're going to, we're going to talk about that and other issues. but i first have to ask about how you are, how your family is a man broke into your home last weekend in-between police shifts? >> your daughter, your son-in-law, and newborn grandson, were there? yes we're all doing fine. thank you so
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much for asking. it was definitely very, very disturbing especially with the family there are but he was captured on site and so we're doing much better good. i'm glad to hear that let's talk about what i led into the segment width, which of course are the protests going on, on college campuses, including at usc, almost 100 people have been arrested. the campus terror temporarily closed overnight. protesters damaged statue of fountain on campus and the school abruptly canceled commencement ceremonies there. this is the same class that had their high school graduates canceled in 2020 because of the pandemic. as a usc alum yourself, was that the right decision to cancel? >> well, actually, you know, they didn't cancel everything. so the main graduation is canceled, but the individual schools have graduations as well. so there's a lot of ceremonies that will be taking place, but like you said, i
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share that also the idea that they miss their graduation four years ago, but hopefully their individual schools we'll go forward peacefully and the main graduation being canceled, you support that it well, i believe that that was a decision that they had to make. >> they were expecting about 65,000 people on campus and they just did not feel that it was going to be safe. and the job of the president, just like my job as mayor, my number one job is to make sure that angelinos are safe some protesters are opposing alleged human rights abuses from israel inside gaza some are just outright supporting hamas calling for the elimination of israel, jewish students are saying that they're scared for their safety. >> are you comfortable with the messages that you're hearing? and if not, what can you do about it as mayor? well, i mean, as mayor of people have the right to free speech, but, you know, hate speech
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antisemitism, all of that it's just unacceptable. all students on the campus need to feel safe and there's protests going on at usc and at ucla, it seems to be a different picture. ucla. >> how again, my job is to make sure that angelinos are safe and i will continue to do that. >> do you sport support the notion of the arrests that we have seen? >> well, i mean, if somebody is committing a crime, i know that one of the things that was happening at usc yesterday was vandalism around the campus. and obviously that is unacceptable. >> protestors are calling for universities to divest from companies linked to israel what do you think of that? well, you know, i mean, that is a movement that is taking place, but my focus in los angeles has really been on the 46,000 people that are sleeping on the street who are homeless. we have people on the street dying three to five a day. and that is my focus. that's the reason why i ran and it's the reason
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why i'm here in dc right now. >> let's talk about that. you did lay out a new plan this week to fight homelessness by asking wealthy residents and philanthropists for more funding focusing on veterans like you're talking to people like you're doing. as you mentioned here in dc why do you think this plan is more likely to work than in the past? >> the problem is so extensive in los angeles as well as in other cities that we have to have a variety of strategies. so let me just be clear. i'm here this week with the us conference of mayors. there's probably going to be about 50 mayors here from about 18 different states and we have found that there is policy old outdated policy that actually contributes to veterans, people who fought on behalf of our country to be on the street. so for example, a veteran in many cases has to choose between their veteran benefits or housing, because if they take all their benefits it's then
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their income is so high that they don't qualify for housing. and that is just unacceptable. housing is there, but they can't access it. so we calling on our federal partners to close that loophole so that veterans can get their benefits. and b how's the strategy that we've been using over the last year? we call it a program in sides safe, where we move people immediately from tents into housing. and one of the most important things that we saw in the last year is that people are willing and ready to leave the streets. so we have destroyed the myth that people choose to be on the streets and that they won't lead. the other thing is, is that we called for a capital campaign, a traditional capital campaign, buildings are built at universities, hospitals, faith institutions, and so when we call upon the wealthy to contribute, it's two-way capital campaign that is one of probably 12 different strategies that we're using to address this problem in las santos. let me say one other
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thing too. one problem that we really have to solve is how to prevent people from falling into homelessness to begin with, on any given month, we can get hundreds of people off the street, but then hundreds call fall on the streets. as well, have to have a comprehensive approach. the mayor's bipartisan group of mayors, because this is a bipartisan issue, are here to meet with the administration, the senate, and the house to say, please close this veteran loophole. >> we're out of time, but before i let you go on the show a year ago, you said you hope to eliminate street home lesson by the end of your first term in 2026, i still hope to do that and still achievable. >> well, we shall see we've done pretty well so far, a lot more to do american bass. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for her. >> and for years republicans have criticized safe spaces on college campuses. has that changed? >> i'll ask republican governor glenn youngkin next if
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your party's nominee, donald trump. he doesn't share your views why do you think this is so important? >> well, first of all, dana, thank you for having me today and it's amazing to be here at dr. stein airbase to visit with these extraordinary men and women who are on the front line of projecting american capabilities around the world. it is the gateway for america's military here here and it's so important for us to come and support them and honore the myself great virginians here as well today. >> and this global economic strength is national security. >> and it's critically important for us to have deep relationships with our trusted allies. i think we've done a great job in the commonwealth of virginia in. bringing companies to virginia, but also developing relationships around the world last year i was in taiwan, japan, and south korea. and now i'm going to be in germany in denmark and finland and it's an incredibly
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important opportunity for us to deepen these relationships. and i think it also represents the fact that our economy is not performing as it should be. i mean, the reality is, we have low growth and high inflation it should be flip-flopped. we should have low inflation in high-growth. and it's part of our economic mission to build that. i do think president trump built that when he was president. i think we're suffering under joe biden's leadership economically, virginia has done incredibly well over the last couple of years is we've we've rebounded aggressively with more people working than ever, and i'm going to continue to work to bring jobs to virginia, but also to make sure we have great relationships around the world. >> then we just follow up on trade and specifically, trump is threatening to impose a new 10% tariff on all foreign imports to the us. is that something that you support i believe first of all, that we have trusted allies around the world that we must develop even deeper relationships with and
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as i said, it's one of the reasons why i was in asia last year, and i'm in europe this year. >> and those relationships must be strengthened. they must be deepen because the reality is that china particularly is trying to dominate the world that america is expense and we must build these trusted allies and supply chains into of the most important industries like semiconductors. and that's something that we're continuing to work for in the commonwealth of virginia it's i think president trump strongly believes in building america busy, america's business and that's part of bringing so many companies home to america. the pharmaceutical industry, the manufacturing industry, and of course a semiconductor semicolon dr. industry. we've seen a lot of that in virginia and that's what we're building there too. >> so no, on the 10% tariffs on all foreign imports yeah, i think that the specifics of, of combating unfair trade practices are going to need to be levered, levied against particular countries that are
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not trading fairly but we also, as i said, need to strengthen relationships with our most trusted allies. >> and that's part of i think not only having a successful economic strategy, but also a successful national security strategy governor, i want to ask you, you are obviously in germany, but you're no doubt keeping close tabs on what's happening here in the including in your home? >> i'm commonwealth of virginia, and that is protests on college campuses. it includes virginia tech in virginia, back in november. you met with university leaders and you said, quote, when it comes to freedom of expression, we have to create an environment that protects the ability to the challenge conventional thinking. how does that guide your approach to protest? now well, first we have to begin with the fact that freedom of expression and peacefully demonstrating is at the heart
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of our first amendment's and we must protect it. >> but that does not go to, in fact intimidating jewish students and preventing them from attending class us and using annihilation speech to express deeply anti-semitic views. and therefore, i have been working with our attorney general, jason me here's our university presidents law enforcement at the state, local and campus level to make sure that if there are protests, their peaceful, we're not going to have encampments intense, put get up and yes, we will protect the ability to his express yourself but we're not going to have the kinds of hate speech and intimidation that we're seeing across the country in virginia governor, i really appreciate your time it is a very, very windy their day. they're in germany and thank you so much for coming out and spending some time with us. appreciate it. >> dana, thank you. thank you for having me. and once again, god bless our troops around the world that are keeping america
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back to state of the union. >> a lot of jokes at the white house correspondents dinner last night, we'll talk about that with my esteemed panel here. nice to see you all. i'm glad you're awake at any coffee on the table that's shocking to me what did you think and i'll start with you about the jokes we're but that last part there, where the president talks about stormy weather he actively avoids all discussion about the trials and this is a way to get it on the record while doing it through humor and there was a lot of trial jokes right? >> not just from the precedent, but also from the comedian. i thought both of them handled it very well. >> look, obviously republicans and donald trump is trying to make this a joe biden file. >> it's a joe biden leading a witch hunt. so i think the less he talks about it in a serious way in a campaign, wait, the
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better. why get in the middle of donald trump when he's hurting himself at this trial. but i thought that's as far as police looking fun at him, it was hilarious i agree. especially when they started talking about him, barton, his way through everything. >> it's night, it was like we were doing so well thinky, it must be in that courtroom. but nevertheless i think is really important that the american people see the president being able to hit back. because when i talk to democrats, what they want to see is someone who's strong and a lot of times people characterize trump is being the guy that's the boolean he's punching and democrats end up being punched in bags. and i think that it's important every sense the state of the union, that the president show up and show that he can not only take a punch, but he can deliver a blow as well. and i think he said that last night, actually part though that nobody laughed at the colin made a joke about was in our polling shows that today trump's winning.
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>> well, let me pull that up so collin jokes makes a joke. he's like this guy's up their, this guy's this. >> and mr. president even have losing hold that thought because i want to show our viewers this is the sort of top line for a new national poll of registered voters, 49% trump i think we have it 43% biden. >> there you go continue your thoughts. so, so while the boston washington megalopolis crowd, right, the people in new york and dc, what did balls, the liver liberal elites rather just say this. >> the liberal elites thank last night was hilarious, right? the flyover states, right? thousands of counties across america. the vote of her trump didn't watch that last night and they're, they're they're sediments are reflected in that poll. and the biden administration and team biden, they're whistling past the graveyard here. they're whistling past the graveyard. you can have a great night last night, but they're gonna be back on the trail and they're pushing a big rock up a hill and a lot of states, interestingly, no networks showed what was happening outside the hilton last night.
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tons of protests. we did tons of protest i missed i missed it. i didn't see it. >> so you're inside drinking? >> maybe but convention coming up in chicago the party's got to get there. >> they're going to have to get an answer for a lot of questions that people want here are the economy, the border on and on and on. so we'll see it's gonna be, it's close race sure. >> i don't know what one has to do with the other there last night was a night for comedy and supporting the first amendment in journalism mission accomplished. yeah. it was not a forum or a venue to put out policy. it wasn't the state of the union, it wasn't even a chance to say, look, we know the american people are hurting. it was a knight of fun and celebration and we deserve it journalists deserve it. joe biden deserved a night out. >> and we're living in such absurdist times that if the president of the united states did not make fun of his opponent for spending his time on trial for hush money payments to a porn star, then
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he is not living in reality. this is where you go. yeah, if that's what's happening and you know what else i found? yeah yesterday i was i was thinking it was kind of a return to normalcy. yes. why? because during the trump years, this is yet another one of those events that was ruined because of trump. they don't mean we ended up with a historian instead of a comedian because he's thin-skinned and can't take a joke and has no hair for some of those in the store that comedian that was there as i'm sure you might remember, has since been ex-communicated for the committee. >> let let's talk let's turn back to the campaign trail and what you brought up the polling. >> yeah, that's exactly. are you worried about a congress? >> here's the deal. polls don't vote, people do. number one. number two, if that was the case, hillary would have been the president. i mean, i'm just saying, so here's the deal. so do i think that there's issues that we need to deal with absolutely. >> you talk about the fact that protesters were outside. that is a real issue, especially for young people and people of color as well as the muslim community. so it is going to have to be dealt with and it's
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something that we can't just avoid, but unfortunately, we need this war to actually progress to the point that sort of progress to a longtime ago, it needs to end. >> we need to make sure that people stopped dying over there, right. but i'm john fetterman school here. >> we need how it causes retry agree with my car was senator john fetterman for pounds via could end tomorrow. >> hamas just turn them over, turnover the hostages, there's an end that's over. >> listen, i don't oversell disagree with that, obviously, but it's not necessarily easy to deal with people like hamas. we're talking about a terrorist organization, and that's part of the problem. but right now, as we see what's happening on our campuses, as we see the division that's taking place in this country, it's going to be absolutely important that we address this head on. there there's no avoiding it. i think ultimately though as it relates to the polling, people aren't going to come out really because of either one of them. i'll be honest. obviously, maga is always going to come out for trump. but right now, people are voting based on issues such
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as abortion, okay. >> i have to ask you all to weigh in on governor kristi noem. is this is something that she wrote in her book that she killed a 14 month old puppy and a goat on her family farm and three horses and three horses. she said it wasn't a pleasant job, but it had to be done. and after it was over, i realized another unpleasant job needed to be done and then she went on to talk talk about her goat. this has definitely gone viral, and that is an understatement. >> okay. changsha, changsha stands in solidarity with cartel, your dog? yes. i can i when i first heard about this, i really thought this was made up because number one, i couldn't believe somebody would do that, kill a puppy who kills mid-20s and then write about it in her memoir. >> i mean is it something that she thinks is so normal that you actually write about it? i'm old enough to remember when mitt romney get the bejesus beat out of him because he tied a dog to the dog. or
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but i hunt over dogs. okay. this is not a thing. there are 592 other things you can do with a dog that won't mind besides kill it in front of your kid and construction workers i don't know if this was an attempt to look tough on a farm. remember joni ernst was talking about castrating pigs when she came in, was running for senate, like it's a thing some women feel like they have to visit did that land i don't know if someone that has shut her publisher hatzor for letting her put this in, my publisher would say sc i cannot in good consciousness, let you keep this in the book. >> it is awful. maybe she's auditioning for crueler develops. >> we're at a time, guys. thank you so much for being here. i'm going to actually after a late night. thank you. so so much for spending your sunday morning with us, carried the carrier, picks it up next we're in a limestone cave letting extreme residue. >> bill got to put finished jet dry to them dishwashers are designed to use jet dry to defend against top residues. for are practically spotlight,
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