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i'm father romero and you don't. you don't have been a priest for about 12 years and an exorcist for 8 years. don't are usually, isn't it the pretty good. i have no doubt that god and the devil exist. i have real evidence that the devil is here that he's active. he and that we need to be aware of him truly. all the author and belief in the devil to many it sounds like maybe a little bit in the 21st century. sation is making something of a comeback. some people have no doubt the devil exists, including those who hunted him down. exorcists typically keep a low profile the we me except for to see what they have to say the something with a z. if you the victory, we're thrilled to welcome you here for your baptism. it's, it's a rule for cause

a baptism is always a very special occasion to you in a chance to meet the future member of the community who is said to move in buttons if we make this sign on the forehead, sugarloaf whole digital in the catholic tradition when someone is baptized, they sometimes undergo an initial exorcism upon entering the church and not only going about the way. so here at the baptism, we try to banish all evil from the heart. the, the last you have it to your ancient rights describe the notion of a minor exercise and to be conducted on the child welfare. typically, critics, because of all citizen respect them would explain that it was not about evil deeds, but that it was our human nature that required purification because we are marked by original sending the musky don't say not to follow the issue he had just about the i baptize you in the name of the father, 80 feet,

and the son is and the holy spirit a man and a what uh. 2 2 type is the task were you trying to find, we can, we can move. 6 so like, let's just completely looks like there are a lot of move somewhere in the general public that i've always described to it. and i don't see why we shouldn't talk about it. should it as well? wondering if i see this an issue and i usually meet with people here in the rectory here. it's a religious building with statues and religious symbols have done this at this point. yes, we already get an idea of a person's level of investigation or vexatious don't. what does accessed don't let this? so a person who is severely scrooge. we infected can't even walk through the rectory store sea level deluxe. you will agree, easy to start. here. i have a container with the eucharist inside. what if someone in your team was possessed? they would have already left this room. it is because it triggers

a very strong reaction during the actual default of you have the host in your pocket suitable if you're to he or she, you know, controls. but exactly. then another thing, sometimes when i examine a person who feels possessed, i sprinkled them with water. that hasn't been the last don't meeting up, i didn't. it should not be so lucky. i just press the person we ask very strongly sick one that indicates that it's cycle sematic the so much. so a lot, some of the been a tough and i can say that's a good chance. it's not a reaction from the devil because the water wasn't less and they pay the extra $100.00. yep. that's consistent goal guessing. just if you break your leg, you know why and how it can be healed. but if you have a spiritual problem and you're completely helpless, complex monday means it's going to you introduce yourself, isn't it exhausted? no, no, i don't talk about it. many of my parishioners don't know,

just finished research. we have we have all age groups, slightly more women than men warranty, but sometimes parents bring their children full, sometimes teenagers, usually they come because they're grappling with a deep malays, performed by that. they feel things inside them that they can't explain was to nice bike speak to the defaults. he's all crossing to sometimes they've already seen a psychiatrist that push and either they feel the diagnosis didn't resonate swipe or the psychiatrist didn't understand what they were experiencing. so cute severe they've often visited. fortune tellers or card readers did use the comp discloses and at some point someone has said,

what you have is terrible. i can't do anything for you. you have to go to an exorcist and then they just assumed the village, sean, and that's me. mind you will solve the problem immediately with a prayer image, but that's not how it works successfully the the subject. fun. yeah. well trivial. i remember the very 1st time i'd heard you could pray for people who would practice to spiritualism. a person came to confession and said ok. i've been practicing spiritualism for a long time. use my civil, i feel bad. i don't know what's going on as the spouse and i said listen, it's all right, see, i'll give you absolution and then i'll pray for you. yeah. for it. and as i started to pray, she started screaming. you're hurting me 1st month is and i realized something unexpected was happening. get it, get it booked preview g and i was amazed that

a prayer could do something like that. so h and things i had never seen before. i mean, just a, just like a person rolling on the floor, this person reacting because i was wearing the store, additional things like that history. it's incredible. like it really works best option, phone call. that's just how much. what i knew this book is about the rituals of exorcism and prayers with supplication. i don't. yes, it's not something you can just find in any corner bookstore at a community, but a dic, what can i read about these rituals? i know it's kind of, you could read it, but there aren't many copies and circulation could display the study through suits, usually handed out personally from the day also from the bishop to the priest in charge of the exorcism. what at the point exec sees is a condo now just to it's like giving a scalpel to someone who knows nothing about medicine or surgery g. a better just a, we put all dangerous if it falls into the wrong hand, only the one. so it is the exorcism. take place is less constant lock. can you

describe it because well not dr. tip must be to a look. i love it. so it was a tailor the ritual to the person and their individual needs to stop. so salty mall during the 1st stage, the dominant feeling as hostilities. and i think like there's something that wants to tear us down on the bus. so this is the next station or obsession stage. up to me, pretty full. when someone reaches the stage of infestation, there are stronger symptoms. what the person finds objects had been moved around at home. shame, what these we experienced, bad smells during the waking up at night in terror for sensing a presence in a solid email to please. unfortunately, for these people, this is often only seen you knocked out by them. it is this investigation is the only the one that faced us through study team see don't come up with the issue. the last stage, dispossession law, this is extremely rare. a person slips away from themselves. often it's not the

person themselves, reports that the people around them who say, listen, i don't know what's going on. suddenly they've gone into a kind of frenzy. i don't recognize them anymore. they don't need a space to sit person is no longer themselves. certainly prefer can you fix on a model name? they pretty much nothing they could define. what's also quite common in possession is limitation. call those i've got the position, you see the body contort and the person speak the language. they don't no longer via email, that's very disturbing kids with that more evil. once to silence you that get controls, keep this cube reminded will fit the the scene all this with you? oh not, isn't we? yes. exam proceed. good control is also a phenomenon that looks like normal vomiting at 1st of the book and last 10 to 15 minutes. up, so do you want that possible? it doesn't seem to stop at all or said nothing, but that's what i think it really is. the demon little demo. this see o'clock, that's because it's hard to believe or even imagine what to say to skeptics or the

i usually read is on the i can only report what i've seen with my own eyes at the risk of being called crazy not, but i don't care about that so magenta got, looks of it. so you really believe that definitely exist? 73. yes. without a doubt is your point. i think the church needs to be clear about is clear, i think so. the catholic church has always recognized the existence of sation. but it's long being weary of focusing too much attention on this change with integration of pope frances and he's speech is the pope proclaimed that the devil really does exist, thereby legitimizing the practice of exorcism. but in switzerland, certain church represent to suppose this fee based approach. in 2020 to the bishop of church, announced that he would illuminate dx,

assist post in his diocese. sparky debate. bidding that side minus 4, think the hutton, i mean during the time of my previous i, so we have next. this is from on the senior christoph cassette. he's got an influx of people came to him from out diocese from other diocese on that. and also from a brewer show at ocean house, none feel a to inc. i looks like say that created demand and then on to but you don't see a need for this except the escaped. i'm producing the spreadsheet. i mentioned there is a need because many people is suffering through feeling tormented and exhausted. all my more and team, but you have to build a team of experts who can deal with these requests. i'm stuck in the out of i think all of the us. but all the lease requires cooperation and exchange between different textbooks and each blush, what i didn't know just priests also,

psychologists and psychotherapists, the people trained to recognize what situation that particular person is in beneficial to at soon. irish think that the phone see significant are coming to good prices early because it gets on the exhaust. i read in a press release. that issues of exorcism can be dealt with by medication and psychiatry. just some of that. i'm sorry, but that's not. that would mean that there are no extraordinary demonic acts, if it can be treated medically, success thing, problem. it's missed your tools to collect a strong to, to get peace. but what really saddens me is to hear there isn't a priest there who can help people in need for these items. are they packaged from washington dc, showing these for me, it's a stepping back on the part of a church that's good. i think it's a great shame, like people speaking as a former soldier, i believe in facility. my duty at all costs is cool and this duty includes

deliberating souls and casting out satan when he's there in the shop the set set talk you did. if the church steps back from this duty others will step in don't fall, could be the exercises of the catholic church these days are careful to credential. it's very dangerous. i understand them. i'm sure they have the bishop's mandate and i missed you a lot and that doesn't mean they have a gift for this work. you know, they're wary of the devil. the p a do long the day is a priest in the galaxy church. a branch of the catholic church not recognized by rhone. we made the sheila and ex assist in a small village in the gaze department in the south of france. and we aren't the only ones waiting for him. it's a heinz is activity outside his phone, the. this demon hunters reputation

goes back to the seventy's the to assign to but i will see i feel a little depressed and tired to to i still feel blockage is gabriel kindly. special . awesome. so your inner self feels that you know, so exactly it's the spirit is that that's normal. it can take them any money, then don't worry. it's because you're still possessed. normally catholic priests don't allow it. citizens to be filled with the diesel, isn't camera shy when we build a new sense? as for you, this is what you send you on google simulations. and you also tell me who, you know, they will test the be able to get up here with a 0, which will contribute potential. and you can google, these will save us and we need to go through the, nobody. but what's the thing you say one comes up on the table? can you look into that potentially sort of, although it works out on a cool, because to be your senior, we do send you an exact same way you can. so you also tell me who he only bought this piece and you know to be so i'll be able to do

a bill. could you do to do simple, i meant with nickel money while you to don't when the gift of healing was revealed to me in the a force arose in me an inner forest stronger than myself. in the shop i see all the people who come to me have often tried everything. i need nothing words for them and they don't understand why he complained about are you cause assistance arriving here? i felt and wells of this it got switched to the function. that's something inside your still possessed. you can see when nothing else words, that's often what's behind it. it's not always you have to check for. so what you tend to my, you don't know why it happens to most i see myself doing it, but i can't stop it. a clinical comply assume you've had treatments that we you just have all the jobs sources. yes. i've been to psychiatry and psychologists. i'm

a nice you assistant myself and he's a see come on. what else? so i'm familiar with conventional medicine because most of the symptoms correspond to what doctors called depression, the son of the preschool. yeah. point. and it says, this is the exact same demonic position or not. during the 45 minute session, we witnessed real agony, the sort of person compounds on you. you can't be alone with it. it can kill you treat . i probably does evil tool dialed me. sometimes i wants to ask what his name was and why he was in this body. i said the body wasn't his and to return it to god. what did he say?

you're annoying me, stop it. you can't hurt me. i've had to talk to you because for, you know about our santa claus and we said you took a look at the 3 quarters of the people who come to me now have practiced spiritualism in, you know, exhausting. if i said they wanted to know something or talk to their grandfather, grandmother, uncle, i'm the type of young people to be where this is dangerous either the demon will speak exactly like your loved one. you'll pretend to be that most, but it's the demon. it'll probably be able, difficult devonte to go back to michigan. i thought with lucifer and even said you had a rough voice and eyes if you decided main street, it was terrible to delete. yeah, there's just all these people,

the men set on to this process. 7 it come and how do you know the demons of good g? i knew 51. if the person has eliminated him, the person has to eliminate him from the front door back from the loan. but i, you know, i need to sit down come on both of these sessions, lock me. do you remember me? just go to this, i'm aware of everything. here he yourself is screaming. yes. yes i do. and that's really to stop. these are some of the people did you have a think you do feel present? well, susie no, no you sure, but i feel like i'm in a negative, vicious zacko really. that you. yeah. you're getting the we're not getting the

time to to meet that says yeah, he's also about the to the you and then there's another pot to you, but it's good that i could come tonight. it does you good? is it a, can you go home? yes, i don't. how many exorcisms to be done in the last 40 years? i don't know. probably thousands got them show me. how much does it cost to 45 year old will be exactly the same as 40 years ago. don't forget that we use a lot of sessions as a silent give you to be able to. yes, terrible. i can. one person spat out a snake. you tell them this is make sense? yes. that long. what do you mean by some people is basically sufficed by notice, but i've seen people speaking spanish who didn't know it or arabic. german. you can't understand them. you know? no, that's one person who was possessed for 4 or 5 years was levitating. be for people

trying to hold her down. she levitated breath. are you well a sort of a dissertation levitation pine? yes. 50 centimeters. unbelievable. cause even though she stayed there for a while and then fell back again out of me, it's gonna go strongly said, you know, to set you with this one view as well. i just think you're completely crazy or charlotte so that charlotte don't nice of course, talking about when you're not the one with the problem. it's easy to call someone to charlotte them. let me just see that. but when that changes and medicine can help, you know, and neither can anyone else does when you might be glad to meet the person like me, a person like you don't, you don't want to come, you know, speaking i'm no languages knowing unknowable information. having super human pallets, these are all cry too is that the vatican has recognized as signs of possession.

but is there a rational explanation in search of answers from the medical profession? just as a scientist told extent to see these signs doesn't possession of it. i'll leave that diagnosis to the next. this is in the vatican this. what is to these are extreme situations that we psychiatry has done see in hospitals to shoot on exam news dash juice, one exam police limitation. pete said this a possessed person, rises above the bed or anyone would be frightened to see dash. so there is a symptom in severe psychiatric cases, usually the way people get terrible muscle contractions. and they form an odd show me on the face of sheets over them. so it might look like the inflow thing with the

shock solver. and that's the, as it goes, these precepts told you, they sold the devil. it was. yeah, i live my most he tribute 2 days will do, man, will i do to every day? is a doctor working with a diction? don't you have 20 year olds with a heroine syringe in their arms telling you life sucks. i mean, if that isn't the devilish it by their job, despite his scientific background check this all advocates for the use of exorcism within an appropriate framework. psychiatrist has collaboration with priests and the practice of spiritual liberation. most could see what was that exhaust cease and i don't see it. i think we need to move beyond these outdated hollywood exorcisms. you can't scare people these days with a smiling devil with cones. so i think it would be a good idea to develop a contemporary approach to x. this isn't going to take, you have to accept that evil exist. it's going to be, it's something that concerns people's uptake or demands and left with on met,

spiritual needs in a disenchanted will just be the plague by x, a central emptiness. so some wound is also to see if it would be to just offset the feeling an existential void satisfying, spiritual needs. that's exactly what the evangelical church claims to our phone to the home. we were in the gospel center on a place of worship, in the heart of the industrial district of rome. the theater in french speaking, switzerland these believers, life is a constant battle between good and evil. demons are everywhere and the cost is joy to drive them away. the sound of the gospel center is van and a man,

a kind of magic stick, yes, presented by the congregations of his powers of deliverance. doing those that go to the old god distributes his gifts don't. and i believe i've received a many spiritual gifts, but we're not superhuman. your folks can tell me is i think the term exorcism often scares people is required, but i think deliverance is usually a more appropriate term that's less frightening them get present p a k more. i don't have to tie people up about this. i've never had to hold anyone down so they don't tell me that the tip is not listed on the list of people pay you to deliver it something? no, no. so to god bless you, i don't try to earn a living as i'm praying for others. and the fact that others make money for them, it doesn't bother me in public service, get theirs on keeps angel here. so i know just didn't know what to do on this team

a busy day. and you know, i was just going to have a dosing deliverance on a daily vice of a difficult. and i can confuse when someone has something in their life that prevents them from living a good normal life. all people have suffered grievances, things that have hurt them is when people wallow in hatred, absolute and on forgiveness, and the profound anger. they open themselves up to evil spirits, but torment them emilia. don't update the case in your book categories to choose x could come, let me explain how the enemy works. so say that i'd say the most common entry points is rejection. is it you all right? sounds like money was on a vacation with my wife. i met a woman who became agitated when she saw me, the spirit through the woman to the ground and began to beat up outlet. she said, this is my home and i'm not leaving. who? so i'll kill her and you'll have a dead woman on your conscience. i spoke to the spirit. i don't normally is cut middle. if you said he was there because the woman's mother had cursed her. my wife

grabbed her wrist and said in the name of jesus, i untie you a man. that's why she then told us her mother wanted to avoid her. but it was complicated. and in her desperation, her mother said the child belonged to the devil. pray helped us and your thought was on it this widespread. i told her to say it is lord jesus. i released myself from this curse and the spirit said homo and i want to go and we pray for him. and he went to the people that is the best thing, the deliverance, what it gives you a kind of power, the most stuff i don't believe. so i believe that our never really resides in us since we have an authority that's given to us by god. since it's given to all who are believers. uh this yes. but you shouldn't ever feel

the need to say yes i can deliver. you have the power or anything, but it helps make you count as massey. well yes, of course the the other day goals, we talk about deliverance, but the paradox, the glee during the deliverance process, people seem to get more tied off in the evangelical will view for some team and a logical symbolism. then they will have the full set to close as well the, let's take some of this take, uh, what's quite this about these relationship is the a symmetry push, or it's always the pasta oldest spiritual leader. who knows what's good for the person on the receiving end table for that purpose, any systematically placed in an asymmetric relationship with there in syria of n, a sit the. the pasta uses their words to describe the person's disturbances at home

and to experience deliverance. they must agree to enter into the positive symbolic weld. it's an extremely high price to pay him to feel liberated, should they have to internalize a world view in which demons are everywhere and they did most of the but she's still cool. i'm system cooling. i'm married with 2 children, i'm 50 and i lead the evangelical alliance and french speaking switzerland. it was your needs to be so i'll just say, but until 1010 acres or particular i've been practicing deliverance for 30 years. and i've seen that it works for i don't see the devil or angels or what did i say, demons and evil spirits those in a deliverance. you might see here or smell of them. the salty hosea. there are some spirits that have a very specific smell,

but he's also the roots of control really geometry dominance. and witchcraft, smell like ammonia slippers based on my experience will cause you to say on the most ideal of the, for the long side, his role is lead to look into that as a bishop christy, and coon is also an expert on the team. and he even organized his 1st courses in deep knology for prospective cost is in french speaking, switzerland. because if you're a pretty tough guy and it's because there are you afraid of demon specificity? no, no, no, no, no, no, no. the authority of jesus christ is all encompassing, which is actually set it down. i see that the spirits are cornered easily. so sometimes they try to trick you or disguise themselves, sort of an older stick with some spear. it's also claimed to be satan, which is laughable because satan doesn't incarnate in people's lives. and holes, angels have a heavenly bodies, but demons don't get on their spirits. and in the same matter of fact, tone, christiane, explains how demons interest itself and outgoing fault triples could exist ultimate

one minute put a dispute. i think there are basically 3 ways in which to be or it's can get into our lives quarter into our bodies. so if i want is through repeated sending shop and you don't invite a lying spirit by lying once. but if you persist, then you eventually get in a tangle in the gate opens. yeah. then there are dramatic circumstances. for example, if you have an accident, you're very vulnerable physically but also spiritually. but the, this can happen in operating rooms under anesthesia. you see different on stuff. and so there are certain circumstances like these in which spirits are given the right to enter these s p. so for somebody to walk with confidence, come up less. if you have cause the 3rd way is heredity. if he thought the sins of your ancestors can effect you move up. well, i'm not back to someone i did with the bible says the open gate can be passed down 3 to 4 generations or 10 generations. in the case of brewster, children's music, there's a now soldier now, so this, what do you mean by the children?

and there's a 2 or 4 picture children conceived out of wedlock or something like that. or a special case for new simple side. we usually talk about curse is passing onto the next 3 or 4 generations are going to this on the lease from the disturbing world view is also hills, cause the direct to the evangelical lines in french speaking, switzerland and shit by many believe it and it doesn't stop in the political portions, gateway, sexuality, behavior, the shooting men. do you see homosexuality is a comfortable gateway paper service mostly i meet with as ok. i haven't had the opportunity to pray for that particular problem upstairs. it's a life choice. each of them is as long as people live regular secular lives without

engaging spiritually with god. so it can work. can you tell them having to? but when they come to god, they may see there are things in their lives that need to be sorted out just as i agree, that maybe it's an obstacle, an obstacle? yes. the more security disability on saturday is the issue, homosexuality, according to their interpretation of the bible is one of the scenes that strengthens the demon, says, refinements lifted by demons. it's my fault. indeed, despite the attempts of deliverance, the demon cannot accost out. it's because i failed to fully confess to something. so it's a system that extremely deal tore into the next time experiences into a tree. and steve full code, the burden of guilt around for years people's for team. what do you move to switzerland with his parents, coming from an evangelical family, to join the church, community,

and hope to find spiritual fulfillment that with audrey and soon realized he was attracted to boy, o. d mode was only possibly an easy enough to the moment i told the church about as they said, it was not god's plan for me. and that it was possible to be sealed from as long as he. yeah, i think the best stuff to my company asked more in that to the pastor of the church that there was a spirit associated with homosexuality. it had attached itself to me through a pop it from burma that was in my parents house. the engine in my unit, and if you don't mind, sufficient about the products that, that by now scratch, well, it was set on fire in the garden with petrol hills. best customer more. he always said playoffs to sell newspapers because at that time it was believe that if an object was possessed by a spirit, the only way to drive it away was to burnett. if and i'm only going to push it over

the years, audrey and experience mounting pressure from his church in geneva, he decided to take part in intensive week long conversion therapy program in new york. was led by a pasta code. holly wonders at the pg during the therapy i wrote down what happened every day and all those years. i kept a diary as well and that's actually also done with the move at the charlotte commands, the demon that's bound to pain. it was loveless, nose and silent. to leave enjoying the throne of god, the demons begin to laugh and laugh. so making fun of the little boy suffering in the desert. feel stupid because even if i had physical symptoms during the therapy, would you use all control the it was like i could feel spirit it's coming out of me is picked the professional field, the more assessing what was it like that. so that's

touch my neck, and it's been leviathan to the long neck of a reptile civic i. i feel it sticky scales. get pointed leviathan, as a dragon most as a kind of long snake with legs. he lives in deep waters inside me. the leviathan doesn't want to leave the control my throat constricting just on. i'm being strangled by the leviathan who's tormenting me to check with us because she uh thought i'd been liberated when i left i thought i could be with god wanted me to be better. a sexual or 6, then i could fit into his plans and also the case what happens next? send. did you all send in a year? uh cuz cuz this deliverance last until your wonderful human nature takes over again . and you do a penalty and you start to live according to your desires. again, what is your dreams and the things that make up the richness of your humanity. how have you to that? it's just a device connected to the vehicle at that moment due to an enormous goods

that's going to destroy you even more because this is your thoughts too. i think i was manipulated and that it was in fact spiritual abuse is good to tell you what's the absolute truth explained. there is no other way in your body portion of this doesn't totally happening. evangelical circles, clergy from other religious groups, also engage in frequent and excessive deliverance and exorcism practices. in the south of france, we may so will include lucy. the 50 year old is originally from metal gasket. she was adopted by a family, it was close ties to the society of saint plants. the 10th of fundamentalist catholic community founded in switzerland, in 1970. the group has been controversial. i have done that

in society. the father has a dominant pro. he's that to come on and make sure the whole family stays on the right path of religion. do that. he's the patriarch on that and that's yes. lucy met her husband through the society. she married him with a teen, became pregnant to 20 and had 5 children kind of lose things with him. so that's pretty much, very bad too. there was a lot of violence to could slaps kicks punches to show the credits. i sought help from the priests and my parish. one priest in particular, even though he blamed me ministry, told me i am too dominant towards my husband, that i should be submissive. it was to me to do to make you sad. oh, my outbursts of anger, what triggered by a demon, he linked it to my post because of it that i was adopted by him as the tribe. and

the crisis had to be removed from me for that. so you miss. so just see of us to do 3 views and when you see the queen, diesel, she's had about 20 extra systems. and 6 years of success, they take place in the prior in the priests office, you'll see an exercise in last up to 15 minutes. you're on your knees, you have to confess your sins. you will have to wait for the priest to say his prize and press on your chest because of the demons come out to do my goodness. getting catholic. i really accepted the priest's advice because i wanted to save my family and my marriage is just what committed for pretty much despise her efforts. the beach was continues to the seat, finally asked her husband to leave the matter to hunt the societies in attempted. one last ecstasy isn't to change your mind. said no. so i've got visual that night

there was a knock at the door. i opened it and the priest came in and told me into the seller . she wanted to cost out the demon and me by trying to get me to say i was wrong. though. i was afraid to do something back to me. i told myself he wouldn't attack me in my own home. and he didn't have the right to take. my children's name is also the attorney to take to gloss about the definitely the society of st highest. the goal is not to go to health, please don't exorcism is common among the priest. the just you thought he put if you are you still in the society today to nations degree thought to less let down. no, not anymore your list. i'm still a believer, but i'm not practicing. i'm very glad i laugh as you just click on phones on the occlusal to lucy is not an ice slice case of the testimonies engine,

internal documents, cooperation, the practice of exorcism within the society suggest it's performed regularly. we contacted the society in switzerland but received no response. the bishop of cheer, which is extreme caution when it comes to exorcisms, is with us to share that off to and she stayed in vc insistence on exorcisms is not good pastoral can. the primary task christ entrusted to us was not to find tables, but to proclaim salvation and goodness and then that's kind of the school day to for the couldn't disappear. i know the feeling the devil tries people towards god 9, but that's been, these are some of these the, the, to the see know because driving people would main forcing people to do something and then not free us and that has no value to god the greatest gift god has

given to us is now freedom. we can only love if we are free print and noting for i hide even the duty to sever at all times with my former evangelical community. so we just really cool. about 10 years ago, i reached the point where i felt like a bill was being lifted. i don't be easier to use it cuz i realized that maybe everything i believe had actually been drilled into me and was not from god has. and if i didn't you, yes, and the law, you have to step in this made it possible for me to reconcile my identity and my spirituality. the must really try to take here. when you sit

down, did you say shop the antenna l g b t i geneva group in the protestant church here, the cost of your personal experiences to mid winter? yeah. okay. i probably felt ready to offer others that space of self discovery and reconciliation that i had been missing a do across. yes for the team. i'm ok only, but up with me we're here neither to judge nor to impose our views on other people, such as a class, obviously, but to just show us class good. my fly, the of us to believe in things we can see missive, i think my faith is still alive and really put this fellow to the home. but of course, it's very different from my former face of moment because there be ideal was lined, face is strong for intelligence and freedom of thought and interpretation more stifled. gonzales investigative. i'll see dr. critical to just the most because most useful to you, how did i manage it perhaps by the grace of god?

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