but in a certain sense we have to take into account the fact that the elections are coming up, and it is of course normal in a democracy that everyone wants to look as good as possible in the elections, and therefore political parties try to take care of the interests of different political groups, there is nothing unusual about this, it was b in ukraine, so it is in any other democratic country, and yet today our actions, including when it comes to farmers, are real actions, we really protect farmers, it is not just for elections. export analytics, people cite these export data, they see that polish products go to ukraine, so it does not really make sense to consider the government's action in the context of one sector, you need to look at it as a whole and understand that the elections also play a role here, but your question is probably about something else. is this

nationalist electorate large? i think it's similar to what it looks like in ukraine, that is , according to various political studies, and i 've been dealing with this for a very, very long time, about 10% of the electorate has this populist-nationalist character, in many european countries, very similar in ukraine, very similar in poland. sometimes these voters, this electorate, find a specific party for themselves, sometimes they join.

and did cooperation in general not become a victim of these pre-election games with part of the electorate in poland? everyone has their own way, mine is that i go to the media, explain, show data, publish data, publicize research. there is no better way to combat fake news and russian propaganda than the truth, and all you have to do is provide the real thing data, show, for example, that polish-ukrainian relations are great. everyone wins as a result. because a new large market and great opportunities have opened up, the country that becomes part of the eu will also benefit later. this is a certain game where poland will definitely not lose here in i. i explain it in poland, i can state it convincingly. as of today, the highest

support for the idea of ​​eu enlargement is in poland. that hasn't changed. i think that now we can also take into account the main data of the attitude of poles towards ukrainians and ukraine. like yourself you can see, some things fortunately don't change. fortunately, because we already know that support for ukraine has not changed. poles support military aid to ukraine and support eu expansion. those are really the two most important things, and we should be happy about it. thank you for this program, for a sincere conversation, pawel kowal, head of the committee on foreign affairs of the polish diet, maria gurska, espresso journalist and editor-in-chief of eu sisters, watch our polish programs on pawel kowal's youtube channel. in ukrainian on the espresso tv channel every sunday at 3:30 p.m on the 22nd, at sister eu, the most important part of our conversations was in both languages. see this week in the

judicial control program with tatyana shustrova. the most odious offending judges. how to keep a job while in a pre-trial detention center. they continue to be judges and receive a considerable salary. but why does vrp kvolo consider complaints against the servants of themis? the supreme council of justice acts to preserve the status quo, not to clean up the renewal of the judiciary. congratulations, this is judicial control, a program to ensure declarative. real rule of law in ukraine. the foundation for further development of our state is, in particular , qualitative judicial reform. ukraine's chances of joining the eu depend on it. today we will talk about those who bring this introduction closer for us, and those who, on the contrary, distance it. but first to the news. the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office sent an indictment to the court against the executive. of the comintern

district court of odesa, pavlo dobrov, who was found guilty of bribery in september of the same year. according to the materials of the investigation, the judge promised to assist in the adoption of security decisions for $1,300 a claim in a civil case. in favor of the citizen. tell me, what you said about provision is also about, well, about these two things, both about demand and about provision. so. if the court finds pavlo dobrov guilty of corruption, he faces a penalty of imprisonment for a term of 5 to 10 years, with confiscation of property and deprivation of the right to hold certain positions. the odious judge of the kharkiv district administrative court olena izovitova vakim is trying to challenge the results of her qualification assessment. she was found unworthy of the position, the judge filed a lawsuit to the cassation administrative court. we will remind, after the interview, the higher qualification commission of judges recommended to the supreme council of justice to dismiss izovitova vakim from her position. as a result of her dismissal, she will also be deprived of life support. in his

statement of claim, izovitov vakim demands that the actions of the higher qualification commission of judges be recognized as illegal. izovitova vakim is the judge of the maidan. in 2013, she passed a decision on the ban in kharkiv. peaceful gatherings in support of euromaidan. at first , the judge vetoed the peaceful protests from 26 to 29 november 2013, the very next day banned protests indefinitely. the previous composition of the supreme council of justice recognized that the judge had violated the norms of procedural law, but exempted her from punishment due to the expiration of the statute of limitations. judge olena izovitova vakim has a lot of property, the appearance of which is difficult to explain by income. and not only her, but also her children, who became owners of expensive cars with the help of the salary. mother of judge lidia izovitova, head of the national association of lawyers of ukraine and associate of putin's godfather, viktor medvedchuk. more than four months ago, the supreme council of justice finally resumed the self-distribution and consideration

of disciplinary complaints of judges. however, during this time , she did not consider the most high-profile cases of the most scandalous servants of themis, behind whom corruption scandals and acquired over time. judiciary property of dubious origin. what's more, these judges are often involved in high-profile criminal cases themselves. they are suspended from the administration of justice, but they still work as judges, and you and i continue to pay them a considerable salary . we are talking about judges, whose names and whose names we all know, in particular, the judges of the former already liquidated district administrative court of the city of kyiv. there are dozens of disciplinary complaints against some of them. as far as i know, there is only one case open to pavlo vovku's trial today, and the question of whether it is being considered or not is, well, at least we don't know, because there is no result. this is pavlo vovk, the odious former head of the liquidated most scandalous court of the country, the district administrative court

of kyiv, the same one that canceled the new edition of the ukrainian spelling, blocked the renaming of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, which , according to the decision of the verkhovna rada, had to include in its name a connection... with russia, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia, the judges of the district administrative court of kyiv took into consideration a lawsuit from viktor yanukovych regarding his return to the post of president of ukraine . the head of the district administration of kyiv, pavlo vovk , appears in the case of interference in the work of the court and influencing the adoption of certain decisions for money. in 2020, nabu announced vovka, his deputy yevhen ablov and five more judges oask is suspected of creating a criminal organization and usurping power. there is a huge problem in the fact that the judges of oascu, even after the liquidation of the court, they continue to remain judges and receive a considerable salary. the district administrative court of kyiv was liquidated at the end of 2022 . since then, pavlo vovk has done absolutely nothing, but still receives a salary

. over the past year, taxpayers paid more than uah 1.5 million to a suspect in serious corruption crimes and an attempt to seize power. and he is one of... really not alone, his first deputy yevhen ablov, also involved in the criminal case, also received about 1.5 million. as an outside observer, i get the impression that simply no one is interested in this, or rather , the supreme council of justice is interested in the opposite of keeping tandyr, vovka, ablov, and others like them in their positions. i 'd love to be wrong really, and i'd be happy to be wrong. all that needs to be done in the supreme council of justice is to start considering these cases and dismiss those judges. which should be changed. under consideration by the supreme council of justice the case of the judge, the culprit of the fatal road accident, is pending. last year, on may 26, the judge of the makariv district court of the kyiv region, oleksiy tandyr, driving a lexus car, ran over national guard soldier vadym bondarenko, who

was on duty at the checkpoint at the entrance to kyiv. the military serviceman, who was originally from cherkasy and raised three children, died. according to the investigation, at the time of the accident, the driver was traveling at a speed of 100 km/h. was in a state of alcoholic intoxication, this case caused a great public outcry, however did not attract the attention and priority of the supreme council of justice. oleksiy tandyr is in the pretrial detention center and will probably be recognized. and sentenced to a real prison term, but he still remains a judge. the most interesting thing is that the supreme council of justice itself introduced a rule into its regulations, according to which high-profile cases, cases that have public weight, significant public interest, should be considered first, or at least as a priority. unfortunately, we do not see this, and in fact, in this way, the members of the supreme council of justice themselves violate the new regulations. a special category for dismissal is judges-collaborators, those who betrayed their oath and... went to the side of the enemy during a full-scale war. they should be released immediately, but the supreme council of justice

is in no hurry here either. volodymyr kuksov, the judge of the northern commercial court of appeal, who is accused of collaborationism, after the liberation of kyiv region from the occupiers , justified the atrocities of the racists and called ukrainians fascists. but it seems to me that only the fucking bandera people can fucking rape, and here too this is the situation here, we have half-salaries like these, the supreme court decided to give half-salaries for the war. what do i need this war for, damn it? kuksov was detained by law enforcement officers back in september 2022, since then he has been in a pre-trial detention center, and the prosecutor general's office still has not found time to consider his release. as well as the case regarding another collaborator, the former head of the poltava district court, larisa bogomolova, who is suspected of treason due to her alleged cooperation with the russian fsb. she was detained for a year in august. according to law enforcement officers, she called on the employees of the berdyansk district court, where she previously... worked to support the russian occupiers and cooperate with them, and those who refused to cooperate were handed over to the fsb.

bogomolova gave the occupiers information about the transfer of three azov fighters from mariupol to the mangusha district. the russians killed these servicemen. today i heard information that three people from azov got out of mariupol by some trick. can you hear me yes, i hear you, yes. and they will go here so that you keep it in mind. if the court recognizes bogomolova. she faces life imprisonment imprisonment, but for now she is still a ukrainian judge. i repeat, all these same judges continue, with very rare exceptions, to carry out the so-called justice, you can imagine how they carry it out. so far, the supreme council of justice has considered only a few applications for dismissal from the disciplinary chamber. however , key dishonest representatives of the judicial system still remain in office. this was a judicial control program, if you want to report corrupt or

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objectively and meaningfully, there is no political season, exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front, svoborlaj openly and without bias, you draw your own conclusions. glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, on espresso tv channel, west studio program. we will analyze the most important events of this week and, of course, we will try to predict what the following weeks will bring us, our guests today, american diplomat matthew bryza and famous political scientist andriy piondkovskii. our first guest is matthew bryza, former adviser to the united states secretary of state, former director of european and eurasian affairs at the us national security council. glory to ukraine, mr. ambassador, i congratulate you. glory to heroes. the situation in

the united states is extremely difficult. we understand, the bidding continues. we recently had a rather strange emissary visit us, senator lynsey graham. yes, we understand that he made what is popularly called a sales proposal, but in any case in this case, he did not bring an assurance from the american congress that the issue of providing us with macroeconomic assistance will be resolved, and we understand that... that now it is a matter of life and death for ukraine. the situation unfolds within the framework of the us governmental and legal system, where the great power of the us congress lies in its entirety. to determine the distribution of funds, in particular for the executive branch of government. so when the president makes a request, whether it's for the annual budget or for a specific supplemental program, such as aid to ukraine, congress must approve it. linz graham has long supported aid to ukraine, its independence, and the restoration of its territorial integrity. however, as a politician,

he has evolved from challenging donald trump to primaries. elections to become one of his most loyal supporters. graham admits that trump prefers not just to provide aid to ukraine, but to formalize it as a loan. trump suggested, and graham admits, that this loan may never be repaid. the interest rate is likely to be very low for the type of aid provided during world war ii, under the lenlis act. much of which was never repaid by recipient countries such as great britain, the soviet union, china and other allies. thus, calling aid a loan is such a political tactic. ultimately, it will still function as aid, but calling it a credit will appease a small faction

of extreme house republicans who are blocking a vote by threatening to remove speaker michael. johnson from his position, and johnson, fearing to lose his role, prevents voting. however, it is expected that the vote will take place in the near future. when we talk about our ukrainian fossils and linsegram's visit, who starts talking about help from the united states, a certain feeling creeps in that maybe someone, some, i don't know, the deep state, the american deep state, would like to solve the issue in this way related to... fossils, i don't know, fossils in exchange for large-scale aid, this is about specific environments in the united states states, maybe i'm wrong. no, this theory seems propagandistic to me. perhaps the russians are behind the fact that it is the current subject of discussion in ukraine. the united states government has no interest in providing itself with natural resources from anywhere but

the united states. the us government is trying to encourage other countries to allow it. american companies to extract oil, natural gas and other minerals on fair terms. in addition, it promotes the global extraction of natural minerals to meet the needs of the world economy. in fact, i wish they would think as strategically as you suggest. instead , in washington, there is a very narrow partisan political battle between those who support donald trump in the house of representatives, seeking to show unwavering support to the rest of the country. essentially by the population of the united states, which wants ukraine to receive aid and recognizes that ukraine needs it. in other words, no matter how important ukraine is for the us in strategic terms, it is not the main foreign policy issue for biden now. his primary concern is israel's conflict with gaza and related

attacks on houthi shipping in the red sea, which could significantly affect the world. economy and tarnish the image of biden, who is campaigning against donald trump. however, the most pressing issue concerning the rest of the world in us politics is the border with mexico. there is currently a complex debate in which republicans accuse biden of insufficient border control, especially now during the crisis in haiti. washington fears another one a significant wave of migrants from haiti, which despite... to the southern border. that's why it's the number one issue on biden's campaign agenda right now. ukraine is really important, but it's definitely not about some deep state conspiracy, it's just a short-sighted pre-election policy of the usa, which prevents the allocation of aid to ukraine. yes, mr. ambassador, well, in any case, we

understand that conspiracy theory is a very convenient tool for political experts and for journalists, well, in order to, so to speak say... consider various additional options of the problem, but in any case, now in the dry balance we have extremely positive signals from the president of the united states, extremely positive signals from the head of the pentagon, lloyd austin, extremely positive signals are many, but the issue is not resolved , and it could mean that maybe, i don't know, this or that emissary fulfilled his mission, and the united states got the cream of the crop. for extremely specific threats. we understand that the process is ongoing in europe, but this one the process still cannot solve all the necessary tasks facing us. state, because russia is entering a new, additional, even more serious phase of the war. you are right, when putin threatened

to use tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine, bill burns, the head of the cia, former ambassador to russia, went to moscow and explained to president putin that if russia were to take such a step, it would have serious military consequences for russian forces. to me , that meant that if putin were to use... tactical nuclear weapons, the united states would attack russian troops with conventional means, but i don't know if that would be the case. this is just what reliable news sources like the washington post have been reporting. i agree with you that the signals coming from general austin or president biden about providing aid to ukraine are positive. national security adviser jake salevan recently visited kyiv. and it was at this time that secretary of state blin. headed to egypt to try to broker a ceasefire in israel's war against hamas. such so the biden administration is trying to make it clear that the united states is with ukraine, the us

is sending its second most important foreign policy official, the national security adviser, to kyiv, while the top us diplomat is going to cairo. as graham told lintsa, while in kyiv, he is more confident than ever that a political solution will be found. solution to help ukraine, the problem is that ukraine does not have time to wait. so, unfortunately, one of the greatest weaknesses of our american political system is that a group of extremes ideological players in one chamber of our parliament can block what almost everyone else wants. certainly, the majority of american citizens approve of aid to ukraine. and from what i understand, most members of congress give the green light as well. help ukraine. unfortunately, we have to live with this problem all the time in the united states because of the inefficient governance, because of how the rules of our

democratic system are set up. but i think we're getting closer to the point where the aid will be appropriated by congress, and we'll see what ukraine will finally get more of what it needs. putin recently reappointed himself to the post of president, and we understand that he is left to crown himself until he is completely happy. i know, ivan the terrible's cap. on the other hand, we understand that one or another so-called negotiating moment is brewing in the current situation. this is how we understand that now, in this negotiating moment, if it really will be, russia feels much stronger than it did a year ago. on the other hand, certain processes are ongoing, and we have two tracks. one track is called geneva, so in geneva are trying to form a big conference that would be devoted to the so-called peace formula. on the other hand, we understand that... that the russians will not be there, but the chinese will be there as observers. in the last couple of months, china's special representative lee has traveled all

over the european union, meeting with all possible representatives of various authorities, and i would like to analyze with you what this so-called geneva format and the second track, which will most likely be shaped by beijing , can be. together with moscow. when the geneva peace conference will take place, but i see the swiss government's agreement to hold it as a positive sign, especially since russia will not be there. so this is good, and ultimately it will be a sign of support for ukraine. in my opinion, this is such a brainstorming, aimed at finding ways to achieve peace in such a way as to allow ukraine to restore its territorial integrity. it is worth noting that even the so-called... peace plan of china, which is quite vague regarding ukraine, actually included the idea as the first point restoration of territorial integrity of ukraine. of course, china is forced to take

such a position because of taiwan's problems. if you observe china's behavior after russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine, china has not behaved as an ally of russia. instead, it acts more like a country that has an understanding with russia. having a common adversary, which is the west and the united states. xi jinping is essentially using vladimir putin to do the dirty work, the hard work of waging war. china is trying not to provide russia with weapons and not to violate sanctions, because he is very concerned about secondary us sanctions. these are the sanctions that, if violated, could hurt chinese banks, for example, if chinese banks no longer have access to the us dollar, the system. swift or the us financial system, xijin pin fears his own political earthquake at home. so, china's presence in geneva

is not so bad in my opinion. it would be much better if china, apart from the ukrainian issue, did not share russia's desire to undermine the west and the usa. however, i actually put significant hopes for the geneva conference and is sure that there will be no serious pressure on ukraine to give up its legitimate demands, to clear its territory of all occupying russian troops and to completely restore its territorial integrity. when we talk about the parameters of what in... russia considers for itself a certain achievement of goals, this is one point, and the second point is the question of how our friends see the victory of ukraine, that is jake sullivan, president biden's national security adviser , a couple of days ago did extremely well a powerful signal, that is, according to him, the victory of ukraine is the preservation of the ukrainian state, sovereign, democratic, economically independent and so on and so on, the only thing that he missed extremely. an important

point is the return of our territories temporarily occupied by the russian federation, here we again return to what is called strategic assistance from the united states and our allies, not just assistance, so to speak, at the tactical level, which allows us to preserve at least , which we have at the moment, is strategic the aid involves fundamentally new types of weapons in abundance. quantity in order to inflict an extremely painful defeat on the enemy. what i am very critical of the biden administration is that neither jake salevan nor president biden has ever clearly stated that we want ukraine to win. we want victory for ukraine. they always say: "we don't want ukraine to lose." but they do not say directly, we want ukraine to win. so

psychologically, in my opinion, it is too weak. position, but one of the reasons why they don't define clearly what victory means for ukraine, or do not even talk about it, is that, as they often say, it is ukraine that should decide what victory will look like, you are a democracy, so this is your country, your territory and your people, therefore, it is up to ukraine to decide how the war will end and what victory will mean for it. yes, i understand that russia has resumed its military offensive, but russia's goal... this whole time was to survive, i mean, after it failed its first offensive against kyiv in february, march 2022, and after a successful counteroffensive by ukraine, which pushed russian troops out of kherson in the south and kharkiv in the north. russia had to literally dig in, dig trenches and hope, and maybe even pray, that the united states and our european allies would not provide ukraine with the help that

the brave ones need. soldiers to win. this is what is happening now. yes, that's it. we 're not giving you the help you need, so russia can hold back and maybe even take a few steps forward. but how i have already said, i am more and more confident that ukraine will receive this aid, and it is important that ukraine uses it as wisely as possible. i want to frankly share with you what i hear from the american military, who are ardent supporters of ukraine. they say that... ukraine trained very inefficiently, firing too many rounds and shells during exercises, and that this aid should have been used more sparingly. in addition, there were fears that part of the money received was used for other purposes, for example, for the purchase of expensive cars to ukrainian officials who had access to finance, but these numbers are small. ukraine will win if we give it 60 billion dollars of aid and 40 billion dollars.

the european union promised ukraine. for me , victory means that ukraine will push all russian troops out of its territory and fully restore its territorial integrity. but it is easy for me to talk about this, sitting in the comfort of my home in istanbul, the leadership and people of ukraine have to weigh much more difficult compromises, life and destruction against the territory, and only the people of ukraine and their elected leaders can decide what it should look like. this compromise, you mentioned istanbul, and in fact, i would now like you to analyze the situation with president erdogan and his potential opportunities, so we understand that president erdogan has now managed to negotiate an unprecedented, de facto agreement on certain possible american sanctions mechanisms regarding turkey in agreement with the turkish authorities, that is , we understand that president erdogan is a powerful player, but on...