>> what if we live to 100. i don't want to outlive our money i keep eating the chia seeds. larry: well, seems like hunter biden brought his father into the whole influence peddling scandal and it's an allegation and this shows the foreign agent registration act, fara should be applied to hunter biden and perhaps devon archer too. anyway, we're going to apply it

all to liz mcdonald. she's tanned and ready. good to see you, lizy. liz: good to see you, larry. congressman of over sight, good to see you. devon archer, hunter's close friend testifies to your committee. your reaction? this is underscoring gop accusations and must corrupt presidency in u.s. history that biden systematically lied to the american people covered up how he and his family profited off overseas deals and what did you make of hunter biden acruised of breaking foreign lobbying laws that devon archer testifies and hunter biden pit joe biden on speakerphone more than 20 times to "sell the biden family brand"? >> yeah, look, devon archer was hunter biden's partner and if anyone knows better than hunter biden and joe biden, devon archer would know and these claims are credible number one. they fit the same pattern of everything that the house oversight judiciary and ways and

means committee with the irs have established and documented at this point. what we know is this, that the president said he had never discussed his business dealings with his son. we know that to be untrue based on the fact that 20 accounts linked to bidens were never disclosed and they received over $17 million for selling something. now, you can try and figure out what they were selling but $17 million from foreign entities and foreign individuals and we also know that joe biden, the brand so-to-speak was patched in to -- in 20 different occasions, think about that. on a speakerphone, joe biden has no idea who's on the other end of the speakerphone likely someone corrupt, certainly somebody from a foreign government and likely an adversary or someone at least not necessarily with the united states best interest first in their minds and so all these

things point to a complete burn down of corruption. look, where there's smoke there's fire and in this case, president biden through testimony, through damming testimony and all the evidence has shown himself to be in just an inferno of corruption at the very highest levels. i mean bribery, bribery and these things are things of a foreign banana republic and not the united states of america. here we are. liz: the white house said this is a fact free goose chase, devon archer testified that then vice president biden "brought the most value to the brand". that's selling access, getting the big guy to pick up the phone. that's a deliverable. is that grounds for impeachment? >> that is grounds for impeachment and that's what we're talking about. selling access and influence

peddling and if that's -- again, they got paid $17 million at a minimum. that's what we know for sure. what did the customer get for paying $17 million? look, i'm not saying what the answer is, but you can try and figure out what it is. liz: devon archer dropped this bomb shell and testimony that burisma ceo and cfa that burisma had hired hunter biden to sit on its board. that the ceo and cfo of burisma pressured hunter and joe biden to shut down the jew cranen prosecutor -- ukrainian prosecutor investigating burisma for corruption and archer also testified that burisma would have gone under if not for "the biden family brand". adding hunter biden to the board and access to owe biden was the biden family brand. >> that's exactly right and we know the leader of burisma said that the biden's extorted him, and we also know that the

prosecutor and the -- this victor shokin at the time was not only investigating burisma but investigating hunter biden. we also know based on testimony that they found nothing corrupt about the prosecutor general, but that he was relieved from duty because of biden -- president biden and then vis president biden overtures that were then turned into a billion in loan guarantees. what does that sound like to you? liz: yeah, and then let me just look through it because we've got more information coming in. archer talking too about then vice president biden attending a business dinner in dc where hunter and associates at cafe milano met with the l widow of the russian oligarch and not on the biden sanctioned list. that hunter biden met with the ceo and cfo of burisma and

"called dc to discuss the iranian prosecutor investigating burisma". is that call supposedly to biden, joe biden? >> well, look. i don't have the phone records. i'm sure the fbi or cia can pull them up if they want to, but if that's the claim, again, that should be very concerning because what we're talking about is influence peddling where the family receives money for changing american policy, not for based on what's for good for america but what's based on what's good for the biden bang account or the biden crime cartel bank account. that's the highest level of corruption. we're talking about now the president of the united states. this is pushing china and ukraine. liz: the issue too is this is the exact same thing foreign lobbying violation that then joe biden accused general michael flynn of and paul manfort was

accused of it too and two irs whistle blowers testifying that devon archer and hunter biden set up together a shell company, rosemont seneca bull h hyde to take that in and started paying tax on that in 2014. can you wrap it ultimately up? where's the impeachable offense for sitting president of high crime and misdemeanor? >> the high crime and misdemeanor is influence peddling and bribery, and i would also say, look, this doesn't just involve the president right now. it also involves the irs and the department of justice and maybe the fbi through them for covering for the biden family whether it's failing to or choosing not to investigate and make sure they slow walk past the statute of limitations or literally calling the biden family and tipping them off before search warrants are executed. no one else gets this kind of treatment in america and as a

matter of fact general flynn narrowly avoided jail. paul manfort did not. liz: yeah, this is -- we're going to be staying on the story. congressman perry, thank you for joining us tonight. let's get reaction from former congressional member sam and also tom. thank you for joining us. tom, first to you, your reaction to today's events and house lawmakers talking about impeaching biden for systematically lying to the american people, covering up the biden family profiting from hunter biden, breaking foreign lobbying laws and what was your reaction to devon archer today, tom? >> i was absolutely shocked by what we heard today. so was maybe not surprised but nonetheless i was a little bit shocked. the fact that archer placed then vice president biden on more than 20 calls involving people from burisma and other foreign individuals at the request of his son, hunter biden. as you know, liz, president biden has been denying adamantly from day one he had any

involvement in his son's business dealings, and seems to me very difficult to reconcile that claim that he's repeated again and again with what we heard today where he was not only on these calls but more than two dozen of them sitting right there, and i know the democrats are spinning this he was there just to say hello but we were born yesterday. liz: tom, biden cemently denying any action of what his son hinter and car cheryl: congressman were doing. >> how involved were you in your son's chinese shakedown text message. were you sitting there? were you involved in >> no, i wasn't -- >> were you? >> no. >> i've never spoken to my son on his overseas business dealings. my son has not made money about

china. >> what's your understanding of what your son was doing for an extraordinary amount of money. >> i don't know what he was doing. >> isn't this something you want to get to the bottom of? >> no, because i trust my son. >> i never discussed a single thing with my son about anything dealing with ukraine. i've never discussed with my son or brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses, period. >> it's 8:15 on wednesday night. if you have a chance, give me a call. nothing urgent. just want to talk to you. i thought the article released online that's going to be printed tomorrow in the times is good. i think you're clear. liz: sam, that last audio of joe biden was talking about the new york times expose of hunter biden getting paid by china working with belt and road company cefc, energy conglomerate. sam, wrap up everything. what's your take on everything? >> i think it's extra administered natural rights approach -- extraordinary it's

finally come out. it's unfortunate it's taken so long. a lot was speculated or known in some circles and i'm glad chairman comer led the charge and was successful in setting this up. i think to what president biden said, he was either lying or there's a legal concept willfully behind with you completely ignore everything, ostrich head in the sand. either straight out lying or he was willfully behind to cha his son was doing. you can't escape that . even taking him -- take the situation at best and the guy is willfully behind to influence peddling which is in and of itself a how long issue. going forward -- huge issue. going forward we need more specific details on mr. biden's involvement and more specific details on -- liz: willfully behind but systematically lying to the american people. sam. >> oh, absolutely. absolutely. either way, it's a lie to the american people.

it's just how he was formulating his intent. liz: what do you think, tom? >> look, if what we heard today was true, there's no question that president biden was not honest and forthright in his son's involvement. the witness testified today and convicted o f a crime and may be other witnesses that will support what he says or not. i take it with a grain of salt but at the same time it seeps to me that president biden needs to be more forthright on whether he participated in the calls and what did he say and what the heck was doing on the calls in the first place. liz: and how u.s. policy was changed. like tom said, sam, there was lots of everyday that joe biden knew what was going on and irs whistle blowers testified that hunter biden's what's app message claiming he was sitting next to joe biden threatening and demanding payment from chinese business partner and records show joe biden met with more than a dozen of hunter biden's business associate #-d at the white house more than 90

times when joe was vice president. what does obama know about this, sam? >> i don't know but he should be asked. all these question haves not been asked and they need to be asked. i think on balance, yes, joe knew what he was doing and why he was put on the calls. it's not meet my famous hollywood friend meghan markle but meet my father who controls the policy you're trying to influence. you can't separate. liz: the deliverable was selling access to get him on the speakerphone, sam. >> exactly, and he knows that. he has to know that. lyric joe biden has to know that? >> yes, absolutely. liz: got it. thank you, gentlemen, for your insights tonight. sam, you'll be back with us later in this hour. tom, you've been working really hard and we're going to work sam a little harder and have you back on soon, tom. good to see you. >> thanks, liz. liz: we have a jam packed show and staying on that story and plus, why donald trump has a commanding lead in a brand new sienna new york types poll. elon musk today shredding

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we have a new cbs news poll more americans 60% disapprove of biden. that's up 20 percentage points since 2021, jennifer. >> yeah, it's amazing he wants to tout the plan and nothing with the biden administration that's actually helping peep. if you look even with inflation starting to stop a little bit, interest rates are still going up. first time home buyers cannot buy hopes. people are working, but their wages are not keeping up with inflation. i don't know how a president can go and tout that as success and use that to his benefit to think that this is going to help him win an election. >> his numbers are down and he's 40% in approval rating, but he's at 36% if you actually look at his handling on the economy. liz: yeah, what jennifer just said, jason, two-thirds of the

median u.s. household, two-thirds is being torched and used up by mortgage payments and auto loans. those are not luxuries and those are necessities and them you --n you have people like hillary clinton pushing back on things like the heat wave. >> in that poll, 70% of people said they're not keeping up with inflation and that's very true. but 80% of americans are saying it's bidenomics, biden's policies that are doing that. look at price of gasoline. as you drive home tonight or drive to weekend soccer game or wherever you're driving for the holiday maybe over labor day, those energy prices are on purpose. the democrats purposely wanted higher energy prices. and that's what we're getting. yeah, for hillary clinton to go out and say, oh, yeah, you know, it's maga republicans that are in charge of the weather, and

i -- they must think we're omni potent on everything. liz: gas to what jason was saying, jennifer, gas is up 60% since biden took office. at an eight month high and biden claiming bidenomics is a great subsyces so why is vice president kamala harris saying "most americans are $400 away from bankruptcy due to an unexpected $400 expense"? >> that's exactly right and biden has it mixed up by giving people $10,000 to recent college grads to say this should help your $250,000 tuition payments. it's not helping. it's all smoke and mirrors and what the deputies continue to do is try to say things that make everyone feel warm and fuzzy. at the end of the day, people care about kitchen table issues and care about being able to put food on the table, keep a roof over their head and like jason said, what it costs to bring your child to a soccer game or to go take them out for ice

cream. everything is increasing in cost and americans are feeling it. liz: yeah, it's tough. you know, the democrats are not going after colleges for tuition gouging and, you know, the average credit card rate has moved up to more than 20%. that's the highest rate ever. i don't want to be all doom and gloom just giving the facts out l. what jennifer is talking about, jason, median price of starter home is almost 50% higher versus 2019. lest watch the white house press secretary and watch the republicans take on bidenomicsment watch this. >> our high interest rates and about 2% growth a side effect of bidenomics? >> i'm not going to get into hypotheticals. >> biggest drag on the economy is the administrative state and brock seizure disorders. when i talk to small bye bye bye bureaucracy. when i talk to small business people, i almost never hear about that but the growth of government and what government is doing to choke off their ability to just run their businesses the way they see fit. >> casey, what he deservings credit for is the fact that everything is 17% more expensive today than it was when he took

the oath of office on january 20th of 2021. this guy is the jimmy carter of the 2020s. >> gas has gone up $1.50 and interest rates 7% on 30 year mortgage and used to be 1.8 and inflation is cumulative and it's been a disaster and that's why biden never wants to speak about it. liz: even former treasury secretary bill clinton and larry summers said that joe biden created this inflation and democrats did, and also republicans through ramped up government spending. your final word? >> well, governor desantis had it absolutely right and federal reserve trying to tighten the money supply at the same time the federal government sin creasing the money supply. you can't have the federal government just spending in perpetuity and bidenomics is more government spending and that maybes things more expensive. that's the bottom line. liz: jason and jennifer, thank

you for joining us and, jason, you're back with us later this hour. if the biden family deal making overseas were legitimate, why did they use multiple shell companies to cover up their overseas catch flows and where did biden systematically and repeatedly lie to the american people about all this? and elon musk shreds "self-destructive elites and anti-american attitude". all this coming up on "the evening edit" ♪ and, gold has been a safe haven in times of turmoil! and gold has even kept its value through inflation! bro, i've been there, but gold saved my portfolio. a tip for you... visit invest.gold visit invest.gold to see why gold is everyone's asset.

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hillary. >> internal communication shows relationship between the biden white house and facebook's top executives when it comes to covid censorship. in one document facebook's head of global affairs asking why they were removing posts claiming covid was a manmade virus and team responding "because we were under pressure for administration for others to do more". we shouldn't have done it they said. the white house gave facebook a list of things they wanted removed, and it went beyond combating false information. even the surgeon general got involve asking facebook to remove true information about side effects of the vaccine and facebook's head of global affairs prepared to meet with biden's surgeon general and the executive e-mailed it was a top priority for meta's coo cheryl sandburg that the plot form continued to show they are trying to be responsive to the white house's desire to control the covid narrative online. the white house is not directly addressing their involvement. white house press secretary

karine jean-pierre when asked on thursday said they engage with social media companies to protect public health and meta is not directly addressing the contents of the documents they handed over, simply saying they're going to continue to work with the committee in good faith. liz. liz: hillary vaughn, great reporting. we have michael shellenburger. we've been talking about this since the pandemic and the american people did not get all the information they needed to deal with the pan elmore democratic about the safety of vaccines and everybody thought this emergency use vaccine was safe and it was not and censored even if they tried to talk about it on both facebook and twitter. your word on this, michael? >> sure, two separate issues here. republican there's this first issue that's just people sharing true stories of vaccine side effects and being censored. the second issue, which is new is that they were also censoring a debate around where covid came from and this is now, i think,

the planned parenthood preponderance of public opinion is it came from a lab in china and facebook was censoring that information at behest of biden administration and doing so in early 2021 when there was a growing body of evidence that it had come from a lab and so what you see here are in two indications, it's true information being censor. in fact the first amendment we should keep in mind actually allows people to share wrong information but in this case it was the biden administration demanding that facebook censor accurate information. it's unconsciousable and i think ultimately we need the supreme court to rule on this. liz: it's unconstitutional and government stepping in and violating first amendment rights. that's unconstitutional. michael, your reaction to elon musk? let's listen to elon musk talk about how america's class of elites is literally consistently attacking and undermining america.

watch this. >> we should be proud to be american, and i certainly am. it feels like there's a weird anti-american self-destructive element especially in like the elite circles within the u.s. like teaching you it's bad to be a american. this is insane. liz: so he's saying extremist far left policies are destroying the american dream in states like california, illinois and new york. there's also that . you mentioned it, senator rand paul officially saying he sent -- he officially sent a criminal referral on dr. fauci to the justice department for prosecution alleging he repeatedly lied under oath to congress finding dr. fauci in february 2020, you were eluding to this, admitted the wuhan lab in china was created frankenstein infection viruses via gain of function and it started in wuhan and look at this e-mail dr. fauci said.

this was a man given the power to shut down america. stop freedom of speech and worship. freedom of assembly and private property rights and destroyed millions of businesses without due process or just compensation. >> yeah, it's absolutely outrageous. this is a very clear case here where you see fauci claiming that they had not been supporting gain of function research in china, which is research to make the virus more infectious. sensibly in order to create a vaccine. what you see here is fauci using language games. he's saying oh, it was a different kind of research but in this private e-mail, he admitted it was gain of function and research. rand paul is absolutely right to be upset about this. this is potentially him lying. we don't know but looks as though fauci was lying to congress and the point elon musk is making and it's a kind of

narcissism to think that america is somehow this terrible place. it helps when people like elon musk speaks and you happen lives in a foreign country as have i. we know how precious freedom of speech is and how dangerous it is when the government tries to decide what information we should be allowed to consume and not consume. >> the people are victims of government censorship and they don't imagine they'd ever be wrong and of course that violates the letter and spirit of the first amount that we need free and open debate. we don't often know who's right or wrong till you hash it out publicly. this affirmation of values arguably free speech is what we do best in the united states and seeing the attacks on it is december pagerring and inspirind seeing people like elon musk speak out is wonderful.

liz: we're saying that devon archer, hunter biden's business associate and biden family insider testifying today that he basically -- jessica mitchell, hunter biden put his father on speakerphone 20 times with hunter biden's business associates incolluding ukraine's burisma. we asked, if the biden family deals were legitimate, why did they use multiple shell companies to consistently and systematically cover up their profits from overseas deals built on hunter biden violating foreign lobbying laws? why did biden repeatly and systematically lie to the american people about all this? we're staying on the story on "the evening edit". >> the biden bribery family allegations. in my mind, this now is is the single -- one of the single biggest allegations of any president in the history of this country. while everybody on the left could be paying attention, all they want are the charges against donald trump and keep piling on charges like they did

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about it? >> first of all, thank you for having me on the show. if you've been in a hole for the last three months or four month or six months and haven't heard about the story till today till devon archer's testimony and didn't know about the irs whistle blowers or any of that sort, you've got to be blown away. you take a look at hunter biden is think what special talent or power or super power does he have to be able to command these big payments that supposedly that he's been paying and you do realize it's peddling on the influence of who he is and who his family is.

joe biden was apart of these conversation he was on as hunter was trying to exact payment from people in this country and overseas. i think our committee and oversight and ways and means have further responsibility to try and make sure we can tie all this into a knot and so when speaker mccarthy talked about beginning the impeachment inquiry like over the last week or s that's beyerly appropriate. liz: it's appropriate and should go forward with impeachment and the idea that defending def devr testified that the biden family brand is why burisma was pressuring hunter and joe biden about ukrainian prosecutor

investigating burisma jeo for corruption and biden getting that leverage to get him fired. house gop, are you zeroing in on how this affected u.s. policy like that because we remember that business insider reported in september 2001, e-mails revealing hunter biden asking libya, the nation of libya for $2 million in success fees to unfreeze and unlock $15 billion in libyan assets frozen by the obama white house. that's changing u.s. policy. that's foreign lobbying. hunter biden purposely used shell companies to bury the cash flow overseas and didn't have to register as a foreign lobbyist. that's breaking foreign lobbying laws. >> there's no doubt about it and we all know what the administration did in terms of trying to go after paul manfort and others for similar type,

similar-type allegations and fact of the matter is there's a lot there. there's a lot that's left to be unraveled. -back happening in the delaware family court of the united states and district court relating to allegations of the cheating on taxes and the gun charge and some point the rooster has its day whether it's in court or whether it's in house of representatives. liz: that's not why they sacrifice their lives or the families, you know, sacrifice their lives too for their men and women to go off to wars to defend the u.s. so somebody back home can cash in on their government job. this sun seemly and it's defacing the white house and there's been so much evidence piling up for years now about

what joe biden was doing to cash in on his government job that there's growing outrage against what joe biden was doing and this is not what the white house was meant for. final word. >> yeah, well, it's a two-tiered system of justice. at least that's what it appears like to people wanting that . they wonder if it were them with the same allegations that hinter biden had, would they have been thrown under the bus or would they already be in prison? they want to see the law applied equally and fairly so this is going to continue to play out again in the various house committees and in the court of delaware and at the right time, if there is a right time, then the house of representatives will take the appropriate action. liz: got it. congressman kustoff, thank you for joining us. we've got this, retired chicago area police officer with new uproar and law in illinois that lets non-u.s. citizens become

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liz: back with me now, retired police officer sergeant betsy brentner-smith. good to see you. you worked in the chicago area and what do you think of democrats passing a law that let's non-u.s. citizen becoming police officers? that's daca law. >> this is our governor jb pritzker and he's very far left and federal law prohibits this and in illinois, tough obtain, purchase and possess a firearm. you can't do that as an illegal

alien. this is a huge, huge problem for governor pritzker. liz: it's sounding like mayhem and there's mayhem in chicago. mayhem in u.s. cities because of the border crisis and cities dealing with out of control crime and taxpayers in oakland, california, slamming the da price for her weak on crime policies and funded by george soros and facing a recall and in office for just six months, sergeant. >> well, remember, we have over 70 of these soros-installed prosecutors around the country and not doing their job. go back to illinois, to chicago, why can't chicago pd and other departments around illinois get cops? because they have the soros-i installed prosecutor kim fox there in cook county that doesn't want to prosecute the crimes that are brought there. we had 50 shootings in chicago. the residents of chicago are rebelling against the sanctuary

city policies of mayor johnson and this will be governor pritzker's solution. let the illegals become cops. it's insanity. liz: and arrest americans. okay, sergeant brentner-smith. thank you for your service. good to see you. >> thank you, liz. liz: coming up, jason shaft with us and taking -- jason chaffetz with us and taking on devon archer and his bomb shell it'll today in congress. that's coming up. ♪hat's coming up. however you see fit. rosie used part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of his refund to give his practice a facelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com you really got the brows.

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elizabeth: back with us now, former utahman jason chaffetz. congressman -- form formerman, excuse me, jason. so hunter biden's former business partner, devon archer, what did you make of him testifying hunter put his father, joe bide, on speakerphone over 20 the times on phone calls with business associates to, quote, sell the biden family brand? >> well, this is all the evidence had pointed that way, it's just another person corroborating all the other evidence. there are voicemails, e-mails, text messages, there are photographs, there are business meetings. and it was sickening and disgusting. it was pay to play. the only product that devon archer and hunter biden was selling was that biden brand. he was the vice president of the united states, he was in charge of ukraine policy. he could get things done in china. that's the reason why people bought into devon archer and

hunter biden. they had no other business experience to lean on, no other connections, no other products. it was simply joe biden and access to the white house. that's why this is one of the biggest scandals in the history of the united states' presidency. elizabeth: yeah, it is corruption on an industrial level. i mean, devon archer testifying that then-vice president biden brought the most value to the biden family brand, that the value of adding hunter biden to places like ukraine's burisma's board was the brand. >> yeah. and, look, in a previous interview even hunter biden admitted that he wouldn't have gotten these roles except that he was, the fact that he was a biden. and what is key here is to tie the flow of money. because that's what happened is, the money started flowing by the millions and millions of dollars. north of $10 million, some people have said $40 or 50 million. but that's why the department of justice is morally bankrupt.

they have of this evidence. they've had the laptop for years and years and years. they've had all of this evidence, and they haven't pursued it with vigor. of then they come up with this sweetheart deal to try to get a plea agreement to give hunter biden this blanket immunity. it just shows again that they're doing everything they can to protect bidens, don't investigate. meanwhile, they want to go after donald trump all day long. it's so wrong. elizabeth: talking immunity for potential future crimes or felonies brought against hunter -- >> everything. elizabeth: yeah, yeah. so, you know, archer's testifying that burisma would have gone undernot for the biden family brand. in -- if not for the biden family brand. quote, called d.c. to discuss ukrainian prosecutor investigating burisma for corruption. the implication is the phone call was to joe biden. this is joe biden cashing in on his government job. jason, we've never seen this in the history of the united states. even the teapot dome scandal

wasn't as bad as this. >> no. and he used a billion dollars of u.s. money as the enticement to the people in ukraine saying you have to fire this prosecutor or this investigator, or you're not going to get your billion dollars of u.s. taxpayer money. and then that's what happened. that's what's shocking. they paid for the policy, they got the policy, they got it done, they got this guy fired. and it also, i think, coming out of this testimony is the relationship in china. that has so many national security implications. if. elizabeth: yeah. >> you know, dealing with somebody when who's tied into the chinese government at the extent that he was, again, joe biden going and having dinner with them. elizabeth: yeah. this is normalizing systematically lying to the american people. this is trying to normalize that, trying to normalize cashing in on the white house. this is insider -- business insider reporting foreign policy was changed or tried to be changed when hunter biden asked libya for $2 million in success fees to unfreeze, unlock $15

billion in libyan assets frozen by the obama white house. that's trying to change u.s. policy. that's foreign lobbying, jason. final word. >> yeah. lib what with, china, romania, ukraine. i mean, the list just goes on. they tried to do it in mexico, even bribed -- brought somebody on air force two, hunter biden's business partner went on air force two down to mexico to try to cut a deal. the president routinely lied. he got caught. elizabeth: got it. jason chaffetz, thanks for joining us. and please send us your e-mails to e-mac viewers@fox.com. we love reading your e-mails. you're so smart, we love it. i'm liz macdonald. thanks for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. now it's time for "the bottom line." hi, kelly and sean. sean: hey, ex--mac -- e-mac, thank you so much. ♪ ♪