sn good friday morning. thanks so much for joining us this morning. i am maria bartiromo. i hope having a o good friday morning friday, march 29, it is good friday holiday 8:00 a.m. on the east coast, time for hot topic tale two of trips president biden attending a star-studded fund-raiser in radio city music hall new york city raked in more than 26 million dollars, meanwhile, just a few hours away, former president trump, attend slain nypd officer jonathan diller's awake in new york comforted his family karine jean-pierre dodged questions why joe biden did not go to the wake and she blamed the killing on gun violence, watch. >> i just visited with a very beautiful wife that now doesn't have her husband a

child brand-new beautiful baby, innocent as can be, doesn't know how his live has been changed they have to get lack to law and order we have to do a lot of things defensively, because this is not working. >> our hearts go out to this officer who tragically lost his life in the line of duty president biden deeply grateful for sacrifices police officers make a sad reminder of the toll of gun violence. >> president biden has yet to speak publicly, about officer diller, joining plea now for our power hour former state department spokesperson polaris national security founder morgan ortagus, also kevin o'leary great to see you both thank you so much for being here this morning for the power hour, morgan let's start with you your reaction to the tale of two different cities last night. >> well i think it is the perfect juxtaposition if you

are looking for who cares about working class, who cares about the men and women are first responders military, people who put our their lives on the line for the rest of us, i think it was very honorable to president trump went to this funeral i can't imagine what it was like for this poor widow with her child to have to have to have to attend her husband's funeral, you know. it doesn't surprise me president biden maria would choose to hob nobody with o former presidents celebrities as opposed to going to funeral or mentioning the name of the cop the same president still can't name of 13 men and women we lost in afghanistan 13 best brightest servicemembers he can't even mention their names not a surprise the me he can't mention the name of a cop killed in the line of duty. >> the fund-raiser they charge a minimum 50 up to 500,000 a

hundred thousand a photo by all three presidents taern by photographer lieberman. >> queen latifah. >> lizzo more before a chat with rate night host steven kobert a look at people at the fund-raiser requesting quotes bill clinton claims obama improved the economy but trump took credit saying day after elected said how great it was, then obama admitted that it is normal for americans to be frustrated right now with president biden, because he said joe volunteered for the job i don't run whats that means joe volunteered for the job weapon kevin, thoughts? >> look at metrics you talked about, 26 million dollars in

change, i don't recall ever a raise like that very impressive if you lived in new york not that happy i talked to people a traffic jam extraordinaire, the kept with birds before they migrate it was impressive but we're in a full campaign mode trump made sure that he got lots of press on a very important issue as you detailed we will see a lot more i think city by city, this, tactic rally troops supporters at the same time i think a good move because trump got plenty of press out of this as biden did, but that is a lot of money. >> sure is, the democrats have more money than the republicans, that is just the fact that is what we're seeing morgan what do you make of

that pretty incredible optics horrible, by the way, joe biden could have before he went to the fund-raiser raising 6 million could have got no one car with secret service gone to six miles away stopped to see stephanie now widow of slain nypd officer he did it having said that what do you make of all money democrats seem to raise so well republicans can't do it? >> well is if off let me staying baffling to me in this day and age supposedly, that anybody campaigns with bill clinton this is a man for throughout entire career has been credibly accused of rape, sexual assault, and at a minimum abusing his position of presidency, to force himself on a college girl i'm sorry i just don't see how

anybody with any self respect could campaign with president clinton everything i laid out documented throughout his career. i don't know how he passes the sniff test. >> they are different i mean hillary clinton and her campaign came up with a fantastic lie about her opponent in 2016 that he colluded with hollywood you can't write this she jammed it through the agencies she knew well with buddies there ats fbi cia went viral across the world not accountability half media won't admit it was all made up. >> it is remarkable situationing. >> go ahead kevin. >> yeah. i what was missing was policy when you have that much media in have place, you would think

take advantage of maybe going over the top three agenda items you are asking voters to consider months from now didn't get any of that usually when you gather that much, which a big surprise to me, i would have taken the opportunity if i were biden to say i am going to talk to you about the border here going to talk a little bit about, energy security, i want to talk to you about taxes, none of that. >> didn't speak about it maria: how can he all pails failed border economy the issues that are important to the american citizens he is not touching them because his policies have failed. >> yeah. i think what matters to every day americans i know this right here in nashville, tennessee how much is it going to cost running to get your grocery this weekend what is it going to cost to i will if up tank of gas we care, of course, about our men and women who die in the line of service when it is, cops or people in the military, and

that is what people want they want summon to stand up for them in these situations. >> later i want to ask you about you're business in new york kevin look you are an investor you flow how to make money i want to know if you are going to be able to make that kind of money that of you so long in new york, with the policies that we're talking about we will get to is that just getting started quick break new fox news poll shows americans remainsplit whether or not government have about an tiktok you are watching pg "mornings with maria" live we'll be right back. .

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just 33% voters say they currently have a tiktok account but that climbs to 59% among voters under a age 30 a key voting bloc, kevin o'leary you said the tiktok bill if it passes, has to be -- you put your hand up say you want to buy it tell us. kevin: yes, i do i am out there on this deal, i have been very close to the hill lately talking to many of the you a authorize asking them this is an unusual bill no way done without white house' approval how you are structuring it post china, because everybody knows, that this thing leaks data why not on government phones, corporations ban it why many people like me have burnr phones for tiktok i do use it, for five million small businesses many are mine i am vested in them we use this

platform for acquiring customers, i asked specifically this week, can i fork, the code take a picture of the chinese algorithm code alter it have it audited by national security. they said no, we're not allowing that code near new tiktok whoever buys it i am one advocates of buying it you have to rewrite this grim that is the risk, because if this doesn't work the way now it is would the north anywhere near a hundred billion dollars all you are plying is 170 million names brand called tiktok, it is a complicated deal. i think the price right now that without algorithm 25 to 20-billion-dollar price if that are you afraid of bringing this still having chinese communist party influence whether propagandaor espionage can you be sure you

would be able to eliminate you it. >> i can guaranty it if i rewrite it this will be first time ever to get a deal done, on social media platform the government is going to supervise it where we are at nobody trusts it look. i have nothing -- i like the chinese people i notgoing against them i like many people don't trust the chinese government in business, i have advocated no matter what politics are, as level-playing field with chinese i want reciprocal rights in everything manufacturing, i.t. law we would never be allowed to have an app like this we don't have social media chinese shut it down why letting of them run amok with this i am kay stripped clean of chinese algorithms rewriting from scratch, morgan are expert in terms of

national security your priority over and over contain for years tell us how you see this is this a national security risk? morgan: oh, there is no doubt even the people who you know, might not be advocating from a public policy perspective from banning app understand that it is a national security risk kevin, of course, hit nail on the head talking about a algorithm, there is a data concerns we see algorithm how the chinese communist party is able to use it to manipulate the american public you know baffling to me maria same people that are worried about russian disinformation iranian disinformation seem to not have any problems with the chinese communist party using tiktok as this diss information purposes whether about election or i mean best example is what has happened, to israel to jewish people since october 7 how worldwide, tiktok spread disinformation

spread antisemitism, spread some of the most untruths about state of israel about jewish people through app because so many people use this app as young people use this app, as a news source getting their information they believe it. a lot of that against banning yeah say problems with facebook instagram completely agree social media at large very dangerous for young people especially young women you were talking about that in the last hour. you've been talking about this we know a challenge but just because a challenge with domestic apps how that effects young people doesn't mean that we can ignore, the national security risk of tiktok. as it is now beholden to chinese communist party, let me finally say what kevin said about reciprocity is right on the money, that was exactly our position, under mike pompeo's state department all

of our china policy we said we wanted reciprocity with china however america companies were treated in china how we wanted them to be treated in the united states how our journalists were treated in china how we wanted their journalists treated in united states context of reciprocity exactly how we should look at dealing with chinese communist party. maria: well said a short break to look at markets first quarter what does it mean for the next quarter markets closed for the good friday observance indices great numbers morgan ortagus -- >> reaction to february pce index moments away join us for numbers you are watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. . ♪ .

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her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it's not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that's uncalled for. >>. maria: welcome back. markets closed today in observance of good friday ahead of of easter on sunday take a look where markets finished yesterday wrapping up

the first quarter yesterday, up what a quarter it has been very strong, take a look we begin second quarter next week after the dow industrials ticked up 5 and two-thirds nasdaq up better than 9% s&p 500 higher by 10% in the first three months of the year let's talk about the second quarter joining me right now with us is morgan stanley sr., vice president jim la lamp thank you for being here do you believe these returns have legs the rest of the year your expectation for the second quarter. >> market feels like market goes on forever party never ends breadth increased we have seen mid-cap start to break out good sign small cap index threatening to break out but hasn't broken out i think the reason why, is earnings, you don't have the same kind of earnings with small cap companies that you do with large cap companies, i think servers need to be very

attuned to this every move forward in answer to your question, maria, when you have moves this sign keeps going i don't see any technical reason to sell yet i think you have to stay in for now but i think you have to focus on companies that have earnings, that is why magnificient 7 did so much better than the rest of the market last year and this year for that matter. and why when you look at the bifurcation of the market it is very tied to earnings power. so i think narrow fairly narrow but the market does look like it wants to continue to go higher here. maria: all right. kevin o'leary jump in here. kevin: jim i have a question for you in anticipation of fe hikes on market i too very increased at indices how much is anticipation of fd instruction in june? i am not in that camp anymore i am looking at numbers saying

i don't see any reason why fed reduces rates right now because nowhere near 2% if market thinks getting instructions, letting indices run in anticipation of it, that is where we're going to see cracks in this run. so what camp are you in on fed hike reductions. >> i greet agree with you expect the would i add to what you are pointing out a lot of rally has been based on excess liquidity in the system massive amount of money fed put into the system. because of that, because we've been increased money supply by 50% i mean look. this greatest -- latest spending bill going to spend a trillion dollars to get to september. that is very inflationary, and as you look at commodity prices you look at energy, copper cocoa, commodity agricultures printing higher i think you cannot print this murn money expect inflation at

bay i agree with you i think a big risk of the market going to have to readjust expectations, from the federal reserve board which i think are -- >> if a chance that inflation goes back up, and the fed has to change its plans doesn't that represent a major opportunity to sell? i mean won't we see a selectively in stocks waiting object february pce in a few minutes, xhfrts expecting number up 3/10 of a percent month-over-month up 2.8% year-over-year your reaction or expectation for this jim? don't forget oil is underlying all of this back up to 83 dollars a barrel right now, jim. >> it is the countdown not just oil, look at what for instance gold and bitcoin are doing as well i would add those into mix of commodities

i give a you a second ago trading higher you can't print this much think you can get away with it so i think what is going to be important mere in answer to your question, maria, what is fed going to say when we get to the june meeting fed funds futures right now suggesting over 50% chance of at least a quarter of a point hike i don't really agree with that i think push it off into maybe further as these inflation numbers come in. so i think, you look at financials impacted you look at homebuilders impacted we may see commodity receipted areas may see rotation already seeing that in this energy stocks, is a group i like. so i think it could get pretty messy we could see a correction. that said, if financial conditions are still very will friendly if high yield spreads don't blow out fed, asset liquidity remains high market could stay afloat.

>> if we get a serious spike up that in inflation do you think even though fed has been so you know vocal about cuts are on the way, do you think they would change? and perhaps stand pat no cuts this year? is there a chance no cuts this year. >> i think a very good chances maria of no cuts this year, because, again, you just look at the a underlying components inflation let's look at cost-of-living the cost of a new home of your home payment the cost of even your rent payment now those aren't going down, if you look at labor costs oh, my gosh, i talked to a restaurateur the adore with the amount is paying busboy a substantially higher if you pay bus boy that much more go up the chain next you know the

sandwiches we buy in that restaurant isgoing to be a lot more expensive i do not think think of killed this inflation demon. to your question about germanom powell to shift gestures we were getting krufrts by march 2019 he will have to follow data. >> if we're seeing no cuts i am expecting a sell-off in stocks. am i right. yes, i think you will get a correction i think the market is due a correction. anyway. these trends tend together on not without any sort of correction a 10% correction i think would be he very, very healthy what are they are going to do with stocks outsized gains in going to sell nvidia expects pay

massive capital gains they have incurred. >> wu will get march jobs' report out next friday, we are expecting job growth economists expect 198,000 jobs unemployment rate steady 3.9% breaking news on inflation right now i want to get to that waiting, right to cheryl casone. cheryl: yeah. so let me go through pce prices again for the month of february, month-over-month lit lighter than expected headline number a jump.3, the street looking for .4. now, the year-over-year headline number of the pce price index in line, 2.5%, now going down to core numbers again this is where fed really zeros in for decision-making, that came in, in line on core number .3, jump to the upside then 2.8 in line so upside.

being in and spending different story guys. so, as far as the spending that consumption number we came in a jump .8 but street only looking for jump .5 numbers not inflation adjusted meaning americans out there spending but might have been dealing with higher prices if you need food fuel this is where you are spending. income a little bit lighter than economists predicted jump.3% economists looking for jump.4% on income, what does that tell you? people spending more, they are making less, inflation story on pce story those indices pretty much in line but quick, that jobs' report for march we are getting that next week 198,000 expected unemployment rate 3.9%, that next fed meeting april 30, may 1 only six meetings left if jim can

tell will me when that 10% is coming would i be real happy to hear that. maria: your reaction to numbers in line with estimates? >> in line with estimates, but really tired of hearing people say that inflation is coming down. it is not coming down might be going up, at reduced pace but going up, not coming down. maria: exactly right. . >> i want to point out something, because you mentioned the jobs figures to income figures, first of all the numbers, i think the bls acronym has one too many letters in it because they have downgraded, they revised downward every single for the last 18 months, revised last year's numbers, down a million jobs over what they said. so what we're getting here is coming wut with headline number better than expectations everybody says

wow. look at number very next month revise it down, the previous month down then we find out mostly jobs being created are part-timer jobs a lot government jobs, i don't think this is a recipe for a real healthy economy, so what we look at headline number might look good wait till you see revisions from last month revisions for next month. they have not been trending well. >> happy easter to you and family jim lacamp join us morning. thank you, sir. we'll be right back. . ♪ ♪ . only at vanguard you're more than just an investor you're an owner.

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now there is new york city soon implementing another law that could scare off businesses out of the city metropolitan transportation authority board now voting to approve congestion pricing plans, bringing 15 dollar tolls within the city for some drivers to enter manhattan -- as it business leaders monitoring former president trump civil fraud case trump has one week to pay up has to pay 175-million-dollar bond, down from 475 million due april 5 trump said will pay in cash but these issues, have been an issue have become an issue for people wanting to do business in new york kevin o'leary you said it you got to question doing business in new york after all things reading about around trump, tell me. kevin: those are two different verticals talk about

that transportation tax, congestion faction, london, england as well approved very inflationary in the cost of doing business in the city. it changed the nature who comes into city changed nature real estate where parking was now isn't all kind of things changes over three years it is there inflationary same thing going to happen in new york, regarding trump being watched all around the world by institutional investors everybody happy the appellatism working reduced to 175 trump says will raise cash the process can begin the grave concern there was if it is going to stand that way everybody has an opinion about this when you love or hate trump irrelevant now the process people have faith in confers of the american system that allows large pools of

capital to be vested i am giving you one metric to think about right now if you look at money being raised for real estate internationally, the fastest growing tool of funds is in data centers case everybody knows a.i. needs data centers average size of funds five billion dollars i am participating in this sector too i am leaving on 3rd to go to europe middle east to raise money for data centers i don't know of a single data center project being looked at right now in new york state ven though they should have one because of low pour costs upstate new york drown you have niagara falls hydro nothing there states that are getting these are all the other states of power not new york, the policy they got to get this thing under control to let institutional capital feel confident to come back. maria: you think it is about policy i remember being extended by one of president biden's ideas he can't to tax

unrealized gainers that is another thing imagine you've got a gain on paper, you got to pay taxes on that gain, then you pay the taxes on it then the following week the stock sells off you lost money you just paid taxes on it there is all theses crazy policies making it more expensive do you believe not seeing interest to do data center in new york is because of policy pull out >>yes, i do, unstable you need stable policy you need a governor a senator to assure you when sinking billion dollars in the state it is stable you understand the tax policy permitting cost of power the states have a have good policy right now montana oklahoma, north dakota west virginia, texas. those are the people getting the data centers, 400 jobs nearing high end 3 billion dollars estimate i don't see anybody saying do new york. it is too unstable right now, by the way, taxing unrealized gains tried it in answer from

does not work. >> crazy, i like to see if we're giving you money back when your stock goes down i don't think that is part of it, morgan you are a businesswoman chose to do business in tennessee. morgan: first of all in story about the congestion tax if you want less cars into new york city, why don't you make subway safer most of my friends who remain in new york won't use subway i used to use you the all the time i don't use in it new york i use taxis or uber if you make public transportation safer perhaps you can get more to use public transportation have less cars by people not feeling they are going to get wallets stolen or worse things happening on the subway that is number one >> by the way -- >> new york city mayor eric adams holding a press conference in city subway last night announced slew of new

police safety reforms police using scantors detect guns entering subways adams claims crime is down in new york city he is battling public perception. >> if they do not feel safe we're not accomplishing our task that is matter if if people don't believe in a safe environment our city is not out of control we have the best police department on globe delivering safety every day i cannot that i think them enough. >> okay. so morgan your number one, adams said city not out of control several a new york city women, however, are complaining coming forward on tiktok saying they have been punched in the face by strangeers, walking along the city streets gets punched in the face now mayor adams tells us this is safest city, come on. morgan: yeah. i -- i mean it is he actually made a good point there whenever he said if people don't feel safe then they're

not going about daily activities, i mean i used to walk i lived in new york city a long time used to walk around streets so much more cognizant now especially when i [i my daughter to new york city, just completely different, right? the way that you work during the -- >> as relates to -- morgan: dog business here we have oracle coming amazon coming people are choosing to go to states first of all without income tax secondly without higher can having people choose new york city not a safe environment nor a tax beneficial environment to raise their children. maria: well said story i interrupted you i wanted you to hear what that amz was saying, one year since wall street reporter gershkovich was detained in russia lates

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marks one year since evan gershkovich was wrongfully detained in russia on espionage this is denyings extending through june fox

news senior correspondent joins me from london, with more, benjamin. >> yeah. good morning particular, there are two reasons, that evan is being held the moment the first that he is an american, the second is that he is a journalist frankly seems no consequences for russia for holding him because of this the moment no sign coming home soon evan is charged held for espionage russians are claiming there are there is no evidence there is no the date trial set this week, as you said, extended his detention another three months as i see in in a picture continues to >> i will that was taken tuesday president biden said in part this agency i toll evans' parents i will never giver up hope we continue every day to secure release to denounce impose costs for russia's attempts to use americans as bargaining chips

there have been prison nor swaps putin signatured russian assassin could be -- that has frnt happened in staedz evan in notorious prison in moscow loud outside one hour a day despite this friends and family say he hasn't been broken they say harder every day, evan being held, and another american held over five years, espionage charges no evidence against him question many ask should that there be more consequences for take innocent meshes holding them hostage maria: i am wondering what consequences could be i you took a lot on this about chinese companies, chinese stocks that trade onus exchanges why we don't hold capital markets -- to say we're not going to have your companies trade in the deepest

most liquid exchanges most liquid capital markets in the world unless you do that how about that how about pulling the capital market lever to ensure russia can't make money from selling oil on market can't make oil having companies trade in the u.s., how that isn't there something this administration can do? to say we're not gonna accept it until evan is home? >> one hundred percent many people saying sanctions put in place because of ukraine war aren't doing anything turkey, russia could do a lot of work, it hasn't lost money secondary sanctions critical big question why they haven't seen wen brought in yet. maria: great to see you benjamin hall thank you so much for weighing in we appreciate it morgan your thoughts. morgan: well, i mean listen first of all our prayers are with evan and his familiar i am sure they want him back.

they want him back incredibly sad story, unfortunately this is very you know variations on theme in russia over 40 journalists have been killed in russia. since putin came to power in the late 90s, also, a 12 the committee to protect journalists 12 of 17 journalists jailed internationally nonlocal journalists being jailed in russia, so this is what putin does, unfortunately, what is happening i heard your guest talk about this on "the wall street journal" -- lit nail on the head talked about how kidnapping for ransom, is -- has grown because basically, thugs get, terrorist groups now they can negotiate with you've states gets concessions one reason i have been to critical the brittney case or other hostage negotiations biden team has tone especially whenever they traded the american for six billion

dollars to iran is that you unfortunately propel more and more of this activity, so whenever you have that negotiations you start a big, for ransom giving up what countries are you know want in hostage negotiations only incentivizes putin iran other terrorist groups to do this each more that is why we are seeing this today unfortunately. maria: you can't negotiate with thugs, kevin. kevin: well, i am impressed they kept evan story international the focus on him maintained month after month probably credit to all international news organizations supporting journalists, but everybody knows how this ends, the only way to get him back is to cut a deal with putin himself that means whether got to be the assassin held in german prison or somebody else somewhere, state department has to make that decision get a deal with putin he is the guy that decides that is the nature of a thug dictator. that is what he is.

maria: we will take a break come right back, you are watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us. we'll be right back.. .

♪ maria: welcome back. time for the big buzz of the morning. easter sunday is upcoming this sunday. doordash reveals its list for best easter candy based on consumer data trends. reese's chocolate peanut butter cups taking the number one spot, the cadbury cream egg coming in second, and in third place, my

faith, gellingly beans. morgan, your faves. >> i'm definitely a reese's girl all day. love the peanut butter and chocolate. maria: it's a beautiful holiday, one to spend with family and a blessed one. kevin, your thoughts. >> i love little eggs. i like to spring if billion them the around for kids and say go find hem and then months later, you find them underneath the sofa. [laughter] maria: we are about 30 minutes away from what would be the opening bell, but markets are closed today. we are looking at a very strong quarter for the first quarter. kevin, i want to get your thoughts on whether or not you think this market has legs. look at these to outsized returns for the first quarter with the s&p up 10%. think this continues? >> yeah, i think it does. i think what'll happen because the data we just saw regarding inflation shows there's no change in the situation. markets continue to go. maria: we want to the thank everybody today, to have a -- thank everybody for joining us and also want to wish everyone a

safe and happy easter from all of us here at "mornings with maria," we wish you a blessed and beautiful easter sunday. and thank you so much for an incredible quarter with us on this program. morgan ortagus, kevin o'leary, it's been great having you this morning, thank you so much for being here. >> thanks. >> thank you. maria: all right. it are reminds me of the nicer days, there's my mom and my niece, samantha, color aring easter eggs in years past. but this time of the year reminds me that spring is on the way. we are in spring, but i'm hoping for warmer weather so that we can do some plantings like i always do, plant if flowers, and we hope you have a great holiday, everybody. thanks very much for being here. i will see you on monday right here on "mornings with maria," 6-9 a.m. ian. have a great day. ashley webster's in for tu, take the it away. ashley: good morning, maria. great stuff. good morning, everyone. i am ashle