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shut it down! shut it down! shut it down! arthel: rallies against israel's actions in gaza are not slowing down at college campuses across the country. in fact, in the ten days since the movement began at columbia university in new york city, it has spread across the country. a live look there at george washington university, in fact, there have been more arrests in these encampments. and, again, here is george washington university in action today in d.c. as these protests are stretching into this weekend. hello, everyone, and welcome to "fox news live." i'm arthel neville. hi, brian with. brian: hi, arthel this. eric shawn is on assignment. many jewish students say the demonstrations have gone from anti-israel to outright anti semitic. disturbing evidence of that is a sign at gwu calling for a final solution, evoking hitler's plan

to exterminate jews. usc has canceled its main commencement ceremony. column cra has advised jewish students who feel threatened to take remote many classes as talks between protesters and administer everybodies appear deadlocked. fox news senior correspondent steve harrigan is live at columbia with or many. steve? >> reporter: bryan, four different universities across new york city protests underway at all of them now into their second week. a big crowd overnight at nyu. the protest there was peaceful. at columbia we've really seen the university go back and forth. they called out police once, pulled down the tents. the tents came back and now they're in negotiations. administration officials say they will not call on the police a second time. they have, however, barred one student protest leader, a 20-year-old senior from campus. social media posts were discovered where james called for the murder of zionists saying people were fortunate tata he hasn't killed any zion withists yet. of course, four jewish -- for

jewish students across the country, they are saying they are angry, they are upset in the sense that not only are they being attacked by their fellow if students, they often say their universities themselves are not doing enough. >> i am not mad at the police because of it. i am angry with the students who have put us all in this position, and i am a reasoningle administration for letting them. >> reporter: universities really trying a variety of responses in different parts of the country struggling to find an answer to these demonstrations. at emory university, there was violence week. the administration saying many of the early protesters had no affiliation to the university. pepper spray was used, also, rubber bullets fired. police on horseback in texas at the university of texas t the at austin went in to break up a demonstration. other universities threatening future punishment. university of florida warning students if they try to set up overnight encampments on the university itself, they could

face suspensions of up to three years. bryan, back to you. bryan: steve harrigan leading us off, thank you. arthel: well, former president trump responding to president biden who says he would be happy to face off in a debate. meanwhile, the president plans to attend and speak at the white house correspondents' dinner tonight where he's expected to be greeted by anti-israel protesters. lucas tomlinson is live at the white house with the very latest. hey, lucas. >> reporter: arthel, for years there was a time when donald trump would appear on how're stern's show. this -- howard alternative's show. -- stern's show. >> can i tell you a fantasy i had in i don't know if you're going to debate your opponent -- >> i am somewhere. i don't know when. i'm happy to debate him. >> reporter: biden taped that interview in new york this week but stayed clear of the protests at columbia and nyu. instead, biden attend thed a fund raiser at michael doug can las' home in westchester county

north of the city. many polls show donald trump ahead of joe biden in all seven battleground states. a new gallup poll shows biden in a tough position historically right now saying, quote, with about six months remaining before election day, biden stands in a weaker position than any prior incumbent. he also heard from former president donald trump speaking from the courthouse in new york about the offer from if biden to take him up on a debate. >> we're willing to do it monday night, tuesday night, wednesday night, thursday night if or friday night on national television. we're ready. just tell me where. we'll do it at the white house. that would be very comfortable, actually. >> reporter: as you mentioned off the top, arthel, tonight might not be a good night because president biden is attending the annual white house correspondents' dinner here in washington. arthel? arthel: all right. lucas tomlinson, thank you. ♪ ♪ bryan: cleanup is underway for communities in the heartland after last night's massive

tornadoes, some hitting nebraska with winds of at least 130 miles an hour like here in the state's capital of lincoln. hundreds of homes have been destroyed. we have fox team coverage. adam a klotz is in the fox weather center tracking the outbreak with some states once again under a tornado watch. but first, let's go to fox weather's nicole valdes live in hard-hit elkhorn, nebraska, near omaha. nicole. >> reporter: bryan, among the horror here, a miracle if you can believe it. dozens of homes torn to pieces after that monster tornado ripped through several communities in nebraska, but no one was killed. it's hard to believe as you take a look at this neighborhood alone where you're looking at homes that have been leveled, others with collapsed roofs, walls torn to shreds, windows and doors blown out by the force of that violent twister that rocked elkhorn friday afternoon.

tous still without power and hundreds of people -- thousands still without power and hundreds without a home. a familiar if scene further south in places like waverly e and lincoln, nebraska, where separate tornadoes at one point also left several communities decimated. another crossing over i-80 flipping semi trucks, derailing trains and in lincoln trapping nearly 10 employees inside -- 100 employees inside a warehouse. again, incredibly, everyone there is okay. back with here in elkhorn, just about 15-20 miles west of downtown omaha, we met the long family on saturday morning who watched as that twister touched down just a few miles away, made it way straight for their home. troy long says he made a split second decision that may have saved his family's life are. >> the sirens were going off a, and we were all in the basement. i came upstairs to the second floor and looked that way, and i

saw the big tornado coming and destroying houses over there. so we -- i ran downstairs and gathered up everybody, we jumped in the truck and i drove that way as fast as i could away from it. it was just right here on 4th street which is really close. probably shouldn't have done that, but i'm glad our kids didn't have to go through that. >> reporter: and the long family, like many, their home right there now picking up the pieces, digging through to try to find whatever is sal advantage,. and, of course -- sal advantage,. in this painful next few days, they're going to be leaning on the army of volunteers have been here all day long helping the clean-up process and helping these families really start to move forward the figure out what's next. some really starting from scratch hear, bryan. bryan: just incredible that he outran that tornado with his family. that is just astonish eking. and the fact that nobody died. nicole valdesing thank you.

arthel: well, there is a lot of weather news, so for more on this let's go straight to meteorologist adam klotz. he's tracking these storms and also another earthquake in new jersey. adam, what is going on in. adam: yeah. lots going on out there, arthel, beginning with those severe thunderstorm, potentially some more tornadoes. the atmosphere is once genre charging, and we're expecting big storms from as a far south as texas running up as far north as michigan. but there is a bit of a bull's eye right in the middle of the country. we're currently seeing mostly severe thunderstorms. every one of these is a severe thunderstorm. we do currently have one tornado-warned storm sitting in kansas just northover -- north of interstate 70. i do expect these are going to become larger, much more frequent, and we could be talking about, again, a fairly large tornado outbreak. now, this risk for severe tornadoes, strong tornadoes, an ef2 or greater, covers a large chunk of kansas. you're looking at oklahoma. and then down into portions of texas as well just outside of

the dallas area, all spots where the ingredients are in place that you can see these the really big storms. we're beginning to see some of it, but you can pay attention to the time stamp up in the corner. this will become a little bit more robust as you get going here, more into the afternoon hours, the daytime heating continues to crank up i, ask you get more energy. here you are at 4:30 in the afternoon, continuing to see storms just get bigger into the evening hours. ing ultimately, maybe winding down a little bit overnight, but still we're looking at a lot of storm energy here. it's very humid out there, and that will fuel some of these storms as we continue to watch the track across this region overnight. ultimately, kind of winding down by the time we get more into tomorrow. back here on the east coast, you did allude to this, arthel, we've seen about 130 different aftershocks after that main earthquake we saw back in the beginning of april. this one, 2.9, actually one of the larger aftershocks we've seen so far. i didn't feel anything here if new york city, but a lot of folks out across new jersey if

did feel in this one as it was fairly significant aftershock. arthel? arthel: it's, indeed, a scary feeling. meteorologist adam klotz, thank you so much. adam: yep. bryan: one mountain climber is dead and another seriously hurt after falling 1,000 feet from a top peak in alaska. it happened late thursday night at mount johnson many denali -- in denali national park. the national park service says another group of climbers fall them -- saw them fall and dug a snow cave to treat the injured climber. the other climber's body was not recovered. mount johnsons has an 8,400 foot peak with a route known as the escalator, a steep climb through rock, ice and snow. arthel: well, the federal government looking to ban or change the ownership of tiktok, but sec secretary of state antony blinken kid not bring that up during yesterday's face to face meeting with the chinese president. that and much more between

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his community into a danger zone, and a little ways east border agents in el paso, texas, are gearing up for another surge. migrants are once again using trains to make their way across mexico and smug her ares are dragging -- bragging about their exploits on tiktok. danamarie mcnicholl is live in el paso with the latest. >> reporter: bryan, well, you just saw video of an active situation happening right now. the mountain range behind me is technically in new mexico. this is a are popular place for smugglers to help migrants get across. our photographer is going to tilt up to show you exactly what's going on at the top of the mountain right now. this is a group of about 15-20 smugglers who watch out for border patrol waiting to guide the migrants down the mountain. we're being told that those migrants actually pay the smugglers to help them cross illegally to avoid border patrol and get processed by the united states. some of them even known to carry drugs or weapons on them during

this journey. now, we have a secondary camera looking at a live group of those migrants that those smugglers sent down the mountain. border patrol, we know, has eyes on them. you see that a border patrol car that they describe the situation like in that happens daily like a game of chess. for context again, that group is sitting on the other side of the river on the new mexico side. now, border patrol in texas usually wait for this group to cross onto texas in order to arrest the group, but if border patrol in new mexico say they're overwhelmed and and they need help, then they'll intervene like they're doing right now. we're being told that there's more migrants likely hiding in the mountains right now, and this group could even be used as a distraction to tie up border patrol while more groups travel through storm drains close to where i'm standing right now. this has happened before. now, we've watched groups of smugglers on the top of the mountain for the past week. we've seen border patrol helicopters fly over them sending a clear message that

they're tracking and watching their operations. again, this is an active situation here where you're watching a group of about five migrants be put into that border patrol bus. now, we're getting recent numbers, back out here live, from cbp sources that there's been about a thousand migrant encounters every single day for the past week. we've also a heard reports that a train from central mexico bringing migrants that have arrived here, and that's why we're continuing to see those numbers climb, bryan. bryan: danamarie mcnicholl live from el paso, texas, keep us updated all day. thank you. meanwhile, the u.s. is starting to send is more aid to israel. ukraine and taiwan after president biden signed a $95 billion package into law just a few days ago. but lost in the shuffle of its passing was a plan to possibly curb the use of the massive hi

are popular chinese-owned app tiktok here in the u.s. senior congressional correspondent chad pergram explains. >> reporter: it's easy to lose rack of the consequences for tiktok especially e when the focus of lawmakers fell elsewhere. finish. >> let's help israel. let's help ukraine. >> reporter: bipartisan lawmakers framed foreign policy challenges as risks at home. supporters of the bill argued that danger wasn't just abroad, but in the palm of your hand. >> i've a big defender -- i've been a big defender of free speech, but when it comes to national security, we were all concerned about the control of tiktok by the chinese. >> reporter: there's concern that congress might not be in sync with the public. >> i don't think they should do it. i don't think it's really kind of hurting anybody right now. >> reporter: tiktok is fighting back. >> rest assured, we aren't going enough. we are confident and we will keep fighting for your rights in the courts. the facts and the constitution are on our side. >> reporter: those who see

tiktok as a threat are careful with their language. >> it is not a ban, it is saying that a enterprise that literally potentially collects 170 million americans' data and has the potential to influence what you see in a way of foreign interference i believe, is a national security threat. >> reporter: some lawmakers defend tiktok on first amendment grounds. >> this bill is, for all intents and purposes, a ban on tiktok. and it is intended to suppress disfavored speech on the platform. plain and simple. >> reporter: there was opposition in the senate to i glueing tiktok to foreign aid. >> if i don't agree to all of that, then israel and taiwan and ukraine do not get the help they need. it is moral extorsion. >> reporter: but tiktok won't dissolve from your smartphone tomorrow. china has about a year to dump its investment in tiktok to allow the app to still operate in the u.s. and regardless, expect a

protracted court fight. on capitol hill, chad pergram, fox news. arthel: a well, as tiktok gears up for a legal fight in the u.s., secretary of state blinken wraps up his latest visit to china. and despite the security concerns over tiktok, blinken never brought it up during his meeting with chinese president xi jinping. let's listen to the contrast of blink blinken yesterday and fbi direct or christopher wray last week on threat of china. finish. >> i encouraged china to use its influence to discourage iran and its proxies from expanding the conflict in the middle east and to press pyongyang to end its dangerous behavior and engage in dialogue. >> from the fbi's perspective, these threats are not over the horizon, they're upon us now. i'm talking about everything from indiscriminate hacking to economic espionage, to transnational repression, to fentanyl -- >> what we're facing today is the ccp if throwing its whole

government into undermining the security of the rule of law world. arthel: all right. gordon chang is a senior fellow at the gatestone the institute and author of "china is going to war." joining me now, gordon, thank you. first of all, the u.s. and china are talking, but is china's talk keep? -- cheap? >> well, china right now is intransgent. we heard this from the foreign minister when he had his meeting with secretary blinken and also from xi jinping. so clearly, on the core issues china is not budging, and those core issues involve things such as, for instance, china's support for russia's war effort in ukraine. and as we just heard, china's support for iran and north korea. so, you know, secretary blinken can say what he wants, but until he starts imposing costs on china, i believe that beijing is going to continue some very binge represent activity. arthel: gordon, should there be

a fundamental policy change towards beijing? and if so, what should that be? >> yeah. i think we should stop talking to china. you know, i know a plot of people say, welsh you know, at least we're having discussions. but the problem is we've been pleading for discussions ask and dialogue with china for more than three decades. and for more than three decades, china's behavior has deteriorated across the board. so it's time the say two things. first of all, if china wants to talk, they've got to come to washington. but more important, we need to impose costs on china for behavior which is completely unacceptable. so, for instance, numerous administerings have talked to china about fentanyl. xi jinping has made promises to president obama in 2016, president trump in 2018 and president biden just last year, but china is still continuing to provide incentives for the production and export of fentanyl. and until we start to go after the chinese banks, for instance, they'll continue this course of can conduct which is resulting in the deaths of somewhere between 75-80,000 americans a

year. arthel: a but, gordon, if sanctions don't work, trade or tariff wars don't work to contain china, what will? i mean, has the u.s. lost leverage over china? >> actually, we have more leverage now over china than we've had in a very long time, and the reason is that the chinese economy is stumbling. they've got a debt crisis which their -- they're doing their best to avoid, but they're having problems as with we see continuing defaults by large companies. and, you know, we have not really imposed sanctions of severity, ones that are meaningful. and when we have imposed sanctions, we have not enforced them. so the problem here is not the question of sanctions, but it's the question of political will in washington. arthel: enforcement. well, it doesn't seem to be anybody has. it happened and you already mentioned the most recent administrations, you had the obama administration, trump administration, now we're here into the biden administration. so why isn't there the political

will? >> well, there's a lot of different reasons depending on the sanctions, but, for instance, the biden administration has not been enforcing american sanctions on the sale of iranian oil to china. china took 90% of iran's export of crude oil last near year. and the reason i suppose is because the administration doesn't want to take iranian oil off the international markets and, therefore, increase the price of gasoline in the united states, from for instance. so there are a lot of reasons, but i think none of them really make sense because although we can come up with justifications for not enforcing sanctionses, the problem is that the chinese see our warnings as hollow. and when they do that, we are failing to deter china from all sorts of belligerent conduct. aver arkansas okay. well -- arthel: well, you just mentioned that is happening across several administerings. let me move on to tiktok. i want to look at a survey, you've got 17% said they use

tiktok almost constantly, and 32% said several times a day. and then 9% said about once a day. so, gordon, if china does not sell tiktok, which they've said they won't, how would the government handle the blowback if the app is banned in america? >> well, the app was banned in india, for instance, in to 2020 and what happened is that users there then migrated to other platforms that had short form videos. you know, this is going to be a court ballot, but cobble that this is a first amendment issue because we're not if regular hating content. we are going after -- regulating content. we are going after conduct. we mow that tiktok has violated every poms it's made to the united states about the security of data, and we also know that tiktok has been used to foment violence on american streets which is not only a federal crime, but it's also an act of war. and so clearly, there are reasons to go after tiktok. but i don't believe9 that the first amendment bars what

president biden signed on wednesday which is a forced sale of the app or its banning later on. r. arthel: really, really quickly, gordon, 20 seconds, can the u.s. common deer tiktok? >> yes -- commandeer tiktok? >> yes, because any asset used in the commission of a federal crime is subject to forfeiture. so tiktok -- china that has used tiktok for all sorts of crimes in the united states. arthel: we have to leave it there, gordon chang. thank you very much. >> thanks, arthel the. bryan: week one of the new york versus trump trial is in the, books. coming up, a look back at the highlights and a look ahead at what to expect next week. stay with us. ♪ frustrated by skin tags?

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witnesses took the stand late yesterday. the trial will resume with day nine on tuesday. c.b. cotton live outside trump tower in new york city with more. c.b.? if. >> reporter: hi, arthel. well, former president donald trump's lawyers have tried to say trump was not part of a scheme to protect his 2016 presidential campaign from bad press as they tried to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, ex-media mogul david perk. pecker, who who wrapped up four days of testimony this week, said his company paid $150,000 to silence former playboy playmate cairn mcdougal from saying -- karen mcdougal from saying he she had an affair with trump, something trump conditions. trump -- trump denies. another scheme, to silence adult film star stormy daniels who claims she also had a sexual

encounter with trump which trump also denies. during less than an hour of testimony, his former executive assistant says she vaguely remembers seeing daniels before the 2016 election. trump continues to call the trial politically motivated. >> and we sit here day after day after day, which is their plan, because they think they might be able to eke out an election. but i doubt it, because the poll numbers are very good for us. >> reporter: when court resumes on tuesday, bank executive gary farrow will return to the stand. he is the state's third witness. he testified on friday that he was former president donald trump's ex, he was the banker, rather, of former president donald trump's ex-fixer, michael cohen, when cohen wired $130,000 hush money payment to daniels days after, days before or the 2016 election. back to you.

arthel: all right. we'll take the it back here, c.b. cotton. thank you, c.b. bryan: let's bring in leo terrell, fox news if contributor and civil rights attorney. leo, thank you for being here on a saturday. i want to, first, pick your brain here about being the trump whisperer. you have a relationship with the former president. how is he feeling after nine days in court in and if you would help tell us this maybe, if you canty can absolutely this, what advice could you give him about what he should change about his composure in court, what east saying after, if anything? >> thanks for having me, bryan. yeah, spoke to the president direct arely within the last 24 hours. he's in good spirits. ask and i'll tell you, or bryan, as a lawyer for 30 plus years, i heard no evidence of a crime committed by president trump in the first week. if the prosecution's obligation is to put on a strong witness to tell the jury what evidence of a crime trump committed. david pecker has no information

about a crime against trump. you heard tabloid goes -- gossip, soap opera drama, and i'm going to be honest with you, the president is quite happy with the first week. one other point. what you heard about president trump, other celebrities in order to if protect their brand had this same experience with david pecker. to so i'll challenge any attorney to show me any evidence against trump that was developed last week. there was nothing. bryan: so the prosecution is looking at david perk as their first -- pecker as their first witness, and there are the analysis lists saying he set the base for the central argument of their case which is this was the about election interference. these payments weren't about trying to hide salacious details that would harm the reputation of his family or himself, but this was about making sure that his 2016 campaign was not stymied by this salacious stuff. that was the purpose of david peck or going out there -- pecker going out there and

starting this case. are you saying at the defense did a good enough job in poking holes at that? >> yes. and, remember -- absolutely. let me be very clear, david pecker is under a prosecution agreement that they won't prosecute him. so he has a bias. he has an inherent bias. but you heard no evidence from pecker about his knowledge of a deal between trump can and michael cohen. bryan, let me be very clear, the prosecution is hiding michael cohen. if he's their star witness, they're hiding him. and the end game of this is to take trump off the campaign trail. it is to tie him up in a courtroom for9 9-10 weeks. that's the bottom line. it's not about a prosecution, it's about a possessor if cushion against trump. and this -- persecution. and this judge, the gag order and you look at everything that has been ruled against president trump in this particular case, it is basically to hurt trump's election chances which is failing because if you look at the polls, he's doing quite

well. bryan: leo, they weren't aggressive with david pecker; that is, the attorneys for former president trump. if and when michael cohen takes the stand, how would you go after him? >> with aannihilation oring bryan. let me tell you right now, 35 years of trial experience, i would take every video of michael cohen showing his hatred towards trump where he appeared on msnbc and nb are c, and i would play those over and over again. i would have michael cohen on the witness stand for cross-examination for maybe three years because i want the jury to know everything that comes out of his mouth is biased and that he hates president trump. he hates president trump. i'll tell you again as a lawyer for 35 years, how can you have a gag order against president trump and not have a reciprocal gag order against michael cohen who is trying to damage and poison the jury pool? it doesn't make e any sense. i would go after michael cohen because he has a hatred the towards trump. bryan: i need to ask you a

two-part question fairly quickly here. would you advise former president trump to take the stand? he has expressed a willingness to do it and, two, the new york state appeals court overturned the harvey weinstein 2020 rape conviction in part because the judge allowed other people prejudicial evidence here, other testimony from women who weren't involved to testify in that case. that was thrown out. is there a connection here with the trump case? because judge juan merchan has allowed, he has said that if the former president takes the stand, that he can be asked about the civil cases against the former president here many in new york brought by the a.g. and brought by e. jean carroll. so knowing that, would you advise the former president to take the stand here on grounds that perhaps that could lead to an appeal that can overturn a potential conviction here? >> excellent question. i'll give you a very quick answer. i will tell president trump not to take the witness stand. why? because that judge that you just mentioned is going to allow the

prosecution to try to destroy trump's credibility. he has a hatred towards trump, this judge. so i would tell president trump, do not take the witness stand because you will not have a impartial judge. and i'll tell you right now even though that weinstein reversal a, that judge should take note of that. that judge ton do can care. let me -- doesn't care. this judge is an agent of the democrat party. we're in -- wearing a black robe pretending to administer justice. no way. i will tell trump, do not take the witness stand because that judge is not fair. bryan: leo terrell, always animated with your opinions -- [laughter] i appreciate you taking the time to be here, and i'm sure you'll keep us updated on the state of the former e president as this case mousse forward. thank you. >> thank you, bryan. arthel: concerns over bird flu after news that one-fifth of milk supply contains a fragment of the virus. dr. marty makary on what you can do to avoid catching the bird

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bryan: police near seattle are investigating three separate incidents where babies overdose on fentanyl in the span of just five days. one of those children has died. christina coleman has more from our west west coast breuer row in los angeles with this disturbing and tragic story. >> reporter: bryan, the fentanyl epidemic continues to wreak havoc in community across this nation. this time it's hitting a city hard about 30 miles north of seattle. in these three locations in the city of everett, three victims under the age of 2 years old suffered from fentanyl overdoses, and one of them died. this happens just -- happened just within a 35-daytime span $5 day time span. officers don't believe these incidents are connected. >> all three cases are still actively being investigated, and the department is not ready to

give specifics on the facts and circumstances of each one in case they do turn criminal. >> reporter: investors have not released -- investigators have not released details on exactly how these young victims came in contact9 with the fentanyl. they found an 18-month-old unresponsive wednesday and despite life saving efforts, the child died. just a few hours earlier, a 6-month-old baby was found with trouble breathing, was given narcan and survived. and on saturday an unresponsive 111-month-old at a house -- 11-month-old. fortunately are, the baby survived s as well. the city warned the residents on social media noting it can be more potent to a baby or toddler's smaller or body, and the cdc has been warning folks that this synthetic opioid is up to 50 times stronger than heroin and 100 times stronger than forphone. morphine. ,. >> it only takes the tiniest

amount to cause a fatal overdose. a fraction of a rain drop or three grains of salt. >> reporter: those images put into context how deadly fentanyl can be. as for the city of everett, it's located in a county where fentanyl is a growing problem. last year at least 269 people died from opioid overdoses in that area. bryan? bryan: and the baby was saved because of narcan which is available is over the counter now and free in many communities for people out there. christina coleman, thank you for that report. arthel: well, milk is a staple food found in almost every american household, but more and more people are worrying if it's safe to drink. that's after the fda said traces of bird flu virus were found in 1 out of 5 tested samples of fastturized milk. let's bring in dr. marty makary, fox news contributor. dr. marty, is milk safe?

>> yeah, i do believe it's safe. look, just because you can see particles that test positive on a test, that doesn't mean there's any contagious risk. and that was sort of a lesson we learned from pcr testing during covid is. just because you can find a viral particle on your mail doesn't mean you need to sterilize your mail. and the pasteurization process, which is pretty standardized in the united states, it does enact sate viruses. bird flu is a separate issue, but milk aa peers safe right now. arthel: so then how dangerous is bird flu? >> so you'll hear all kinds of reports in the media, a lethality rate as high as 30-50% in some reports. but really i don't think that's accurately describing bird flu because those numbers come from, i don't know, people with very poor if access to medical care or from the laboratory where they look at the fatality rate in animals that are born sterile without any exposure to prior

viruses or the environment. if you remember, this is an h5n1 strain, bird flu, and we had a prior h1n1 influenza strain. so the n1 domain is common in the bird flu now that's having an outbreak and in prior influenza viruses. is so most people have some background level of partial immunity which is suggests the real fatality rate in humans is much less than you're hearing about in some media reports. arthel: so then are you concerned? >> look, i'm always concerned when there's a novel infection. we have not seen a mutation that suggests that this is highly contagious through an airborne fashion or that there's human to human transmission. of the 26 cases of bird flu that have been described worldwide in the last couple years, there's no evidence of human-to-human transmission. that could change. but it's unlikely. and right now those at risk

appear if to be farm workers, those who directly interact with cattle. we know there's at least one case in the united states of somebody and many cows that have been reportedly infected with bird flu. arthel: well, then we have to protect the farm workers. i mean, is there some sort of vaccine available for them? >> so there is a bit of a disappointment right now by, expressed by several public health officials that we don't have better testing for farm workers or for the cattle at these farms. many cows in the united states are infected, we foe that from the sampling that's been done on mil, and so many people are saying we need better testing. there is a vaccine. there are different vaccines in development, none that have been fda approved. there is a universal a flu vaccine that has good animal data and has completed phase one human riles. it was in development -- trials. it was in development before this year. but unfortunately, it's sitting

on the shelf, and it doesn't have internal funding from the federal government to progress to phase two and three the human trials which would be necessary to get fda approval. when the cdc says we're on top of this, we're working diligently, it is a bit iron ironic e since the universal flu vaccine is sitting on the shelf and ate -- awaiting funding to move to phase two human trials. arthel: we're concerned about the farm workers and the animals. can cases of bird flu be contained before it becomes an epidemic? >> there's just no human-to-human transmission, so it's very difficult to do containment and contact racing when you have no human-to-human transmission, and it's already you big ubiquitous the among cattle in the united states. so we're going to have to wait and see, but this is a public health chang, for sure, and let's hope it does not mutate and pose a greater risk to humans.

arthel: yeah. i mean, we're aware with, let's stop it if we can. dr. marty makary, thank you very much. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ my dry eye's made me a burning, stinging, 5-times-a-day,... ...makeup smearing drops user. i want another option that's not another drop. tyrvaya. it's not another drop. it's the first and only nasal spray for dry eye. tyrvaya treats the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease fast by helping your body produce its own real tears. common side effects include sneezing, cough, and throat and nose irritation. relying only on drops? not me.

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arthel: one-time movie mogul harvey weinstein is in a new york city hospital, this just after his return from an upstate

jail. attorneys for weinstein said that he is, quote, a train wreck health wise. just two days ago a new york appeals court nullified his 2020 rape conviction and erased his 20-year, 23-year prison sentence. he was scheduled to be in court for possible retrial on wednesday. bryan: king charles returning to his royal duties after announcing his cancer diagnosis back in early february. he's been largely out of the public eye since then. stephanie if -- stephanie bennett has more. >> reporter: yeah, the royal family can often a be tight-lipped especially when it comes to their health, but recently they've been very vocal in hopes that others get their health checks. buckingham palace made the announcement last night if along with releasing this latest photo of his majesty and his e wife with, queen camilla. the king is able to resume a number of public-facing duties but, of course, it won't be a full return to service.

the king will begin next tuesday with a symbolic trip to a cancer extreme center where with he will show his support for cancer research. then his summer plans include a state visit where he will most the emperor and empress of japan. the visit will usually include a banquet and a carriage parade. for now, it remains uncertain if he'll be attending some of the big events like the trouping of the color, royal ascot among others. the the royal family's had a difficult year, both the king and princess kate undergoing cancer treatments in which the types and stages have not been publicly disclosed. of course, this will be the first anniversary of the coronation, that will be happening in early may. the royal family says that they feel very grateful to have such great mix support for messages -- from messages to flowers and lots of kindness during their recovery. bryan? bryan: stephanie bennett, thank you. arthel: all right. well, i think the time has come to end the show. thank you very much for joining us.

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