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i >> -- >> the stars. 5mm >> the stars. if all current plans go ahead , the city could plans go ahead, the city could soon be home to at least 20 skyscrapers. second only to greater london. but one of these planned towers set to emerge in the cityscape is quite literally over the top on broad street. known for its vibrant nightlife, sits this grade two listed former hospital, which, if plans were approved , could see a 42 were approved, could see a 42 storey skyscraper built directly above it. the plans are striking for this now abandoned former bar, restaurant and nightclub. and ashley gill, who has a wealth of experience in developing grade listed buildings , says it's a positive buildings, says it's a positive move to get the building back into use . into use. >> some of the hoops that we've got to jump through are becoming a little bit ridiculous. so if they relax, some of these rules, then i'm sure with a lot of these old buildings, would get get snapped up and renovated . get snapped up and renovated. and the fact that you're preserving the listed building,

then it's got to be a plus. and if and it's just a new one for me as well. i've never seen anything like it. i'm sure it'll be impressive when they get it done. >> dating back to the early 19th century, the former royal orthopaedic hospital, known as islington has been vacant islington villa, has been vacant since the previous business closed in 2020, falling into disrepair . closed in 2020, falling into disrepair. planning, design and development consultancy marans on behalf of hjb investments, have submitted the blueprints that would see the construction of a 133.5m tower with 300 build to rent homes and restoration of the historic building. those behind the plans say a flexible community facility and a viewing platform with cafe and exhibition area would bring the protected building back into pubuc protected building back into public use. but reacting to the prospective development , prospective development, residents here are unsure of the dramatic architectural plans. >> i think it's very sad because i think it's a beautiful

building. it is a listed building. it is a listed building and i think it's a tragedy to interfere with it. really, it should be used for perhaps other other perhaps some other other purposes rather than be spoilt in that way. >> don't think they look >> i don't think they look visually appealing, personally, i've walked past this building a few times and i think they should repurpose the building just as it is. >> well, just seems a bit ridiculous. plenty of other uses you could use for. apparently you could use it for. apparently used be doctor's used to be an nhs doctor's place. use it for that place. you could use it for that again. that'd be nice. place. you could use it for that agato that'd be nice. place. you could use it for that agato supplement ce. place. you could use it for that agato supplement the planning >> to supplement the planning application, heritage impact application, a heritage impact assessment has completed, assessment has been completed, but public but the chance for public comments these plans ends comments on these plans ends today, with a decision expected today, with a decision expected to be made within weeks. jack carson gb news birmingham. >> i've got to say, i think it looks quite nice. yes, that skyscraper and if the building isn't being used now and it bnngs isn't being used now and it brings it all back into use, i don't know. i think that looks all right. >> i think that looks quite good. might be i quite like a skyscraper, though. think they skyscraper, though. i think they look nice. yeah >> well if you've got a view on that, especially if you live in

the area, let us know. vaiews@gbnews.com coyte vaiews@gbnews.com paul coyte has support. has got your support. >> morning. good morning, >> good morning. good morning, good bruno tony ali. good morning bruno tony ali. yes. the person people are yes. is the person people are talking at the moment? talking about at the moment? bruno italian midfielder bruno tonali, italian midfielder , signed for newcastle , there's , signed for newcastle, there's bruno there. it's one of the only 14 games that he's played for newcastle , because he was for newcastle, because he was bannedin for newcastle, because he was banned in october for ten months after being found guilty of gambling on matches when he was playing for ac milan. now obviously you can't be gambling on football matches when you're a professional footballer or anything . no around there, anything. no around there, because obviously the main argument is match fixing. yeah, yeah. now, now , the where we are yeah. now, now, the where we are at the moment is that he's out so he's not allowed to play, but now there's a new charge and this is from the fa and this is actually happened since he's beenin actually happened since he's been in this country. so he's been in this country. so he's been charged with 50 betting offences between august and october. so he's already had the problem in in italy. and now

it's happened over here. >> it doesn't look good does it. it really record. >> it really doesn't. but the thing is now we start moving into another area. it's not like, know, you like, well, you know, you shouldn't be and you shouldn't be betting and you shouldn't be betting and you should banned. but this should be banned. but this sounds lad that's sounds like a lad that's actually problems actually got problems with gambling. paul gambling. absolutely. paul merson , legendary paul merson, merson, legendary paul merson, he's he's faced this problem before . and he'd spoken out before. and he'd spoken out recently about ivan toney and said you know you shouldn't be banning these players, but they should getting help. should be getting help. >> some help. yeah. >> some help. yeah. >> also you do >> but also you do unfortunately. i mean , however unfortunately. i mean, however bad is and however bad the bad it is and however bad the problem you can't say, well, problem is, you can't say, well, you know, we're not going to ban you know, we're not going to ban you because then it's going to there's going to be more players that might get involved this. that might get involved in this. >> difficult to assess, >> but it's difficult to assess, isn't looking at this, isn't it? looking at this, whether he has got a problem, whether he has got a problem, whether he's just being a bit greedy, well, surely the stupidity unbelievable stupidity would be unbelievable if you've got to the point where you've been done for it in italy and then you've come over here and then you've come over here and you've got this ban facing you, then caught

you, and then you're caught gambling again, probably gambling again, you'd probably look, easy for me look, i mean, it's easy for me to say, but you'd look at the evidence then go, well, it evidence and then go, well, it looks like there's problem looks like there's a problem there, and not thinking there, a stupid and not thinking it through. >> old paul, have i >> 23 year old paul, have i neven >> 23 year old paul, have i never, ever heard of such a thing, especially professional football. >> but ladies. >> but ladies. >> and came to me and told, according to my rafe ambani, i've followed order to not make a good a great stand ten skill with love subs. what is it? looks like this one is equatable you for greater now let's quite go through. >> walk. don't run. >> walk. don't run. >> i've show you. of what? >> i've show you. of what? >> look, i know lovely luke . >> look, i know lovely luke. >> look, i know lovely luke. >> this is someone. someone? someone is your eyes and this gives you in this chair to communicate, to shoot up at it were times that you're on the chair. see what your time by and piece of that. but heads you in the pace that you are. you shifting flow wokeist and you the beat stoering let loose eyes get added .

get added. >> i can see where everyone dean sills was fills sct is not. >> it has no because talent yawn with in that make you cough 100 the no. >> what about the payment skills? i think he does body and they want acas on. >> i'll actually at the end they say they still thirsty. >> nil for this man here today. >> good of you did using my eyes when they threatened it would have been body. mine was not up here to start this. they should i do the ones known to me for interesting habits below you. should i look? >> why looks like and gentle pressure to our good correctness to an to have a good is to an end to have a good is there a fair is if i can see while sessions ubique are yourselves. >> yeah, but those two things. >> yeah, but those two things. >> where shall exciting thing is went cptpp got ahead of puts you mind with a fig leaf. well, bunny you have there on the left to fort. you have huge future ahead of have the p lyou ahead of him. have the p lyou pray for the spurs like this chest in ear off fox. all right. that's not bad. is ear any rexha

study a weird like this so you need to happen body. >> that's i'm allowed. >> that's what i'm allowed. allowed have bunny. allowed to have bunny. >> we'll let it get to >> no, but we'll let it get to his head. >> what him then? >> what on him then? >> what on him then? >> you. but is capturing >> not you. but is capturing strong is good. 2345 through usen strong is good. 2345 through user. supposed to user. what they're supposed to bars good. bars are very good. >> you imagine on this first time communication time nonverbal communication more let me give how the more than let me give how the meat it is something i say facial be super be super but finds will be i am bout but that will become midfield and one of the greatest players of his ear. >> all devotion . be your >> all devotion. be your presence just loving presence and just loving for your for protect your self. for lois. protect cancer the zone they are cancer the rest zone they are you fear of . cancer the rest zone they are you fear of. did you cancer the rest zone they are you fear of . did you saying you fear of. did you saying i built you and that body landed in him and the gesture this hinckley kc and nike body to replace you is abuse them to take over. but also mailman is now here likes. we'll go into a cycle through the structure to aristratus on in this. after all this talk he said he actually looks like he wants to stay at bayer leverkusen for a little

while now. to go in and do this, you will of guy anker and ltns to me and on who knows by leverkusen might not have a good season next year and a way. leverkusen might not have a good season next year and a way . and season next year and a way. and now as you like that lie want more was super you if you happen so the bit guy is your booked to win a pay. i think you will i think i think this is all a bit of a smokescreen. i think they'll probably be more money coming in. there'll be more money coming in. okay. i'll go to liverpool soon. has sing to liverpool soon. has a sing song. that by pay cuts song. isn't that by pay cuts that want rule? that really want rule? >> a is pause. >> a car is on pause. >> larry lloyd. yeah. see? >> larry lloyd. yeah. see? >> foreign luke littler, young luke late larry luke littler to the late larry lloyd and lloyd. great lloyd and larry lloyd. great reporting. herb with us reporting. focic herb with us though that in your rest of the east and one. look east on one and one. larry look at larry that was that at larry there. that was that was larry won the european was when larry won the european cup. obviously the champions cup. obviously now the champions league only the league back in 79. only for the people the feeling it is people you the feeling it is glad sounds decision for glad it sounds decision for life. and know what he did life. and you know what he did when finished his career as when he finished his career as all footballers used to for the like thing sinner people like one thing sinner now people list you they come to take. is

there anybody running pub? there anybody running a pub? these shabby alonso these days? shabby alonso wouldn't difference wouldn't really run a difference . but you know, some people made one of those at i. . but you know, some people made one of those at 1. hello. >> what's up larry. yeah. do you know what i think? i used to send you guys for a. >> is it south korea? >> is it south korea? >> when you now i'm like with because you if i'm right and he ran a pub it's not these skills lowers ability than . lowers ability than. >> it's not. no. you are. you're gonna let me give you probably. >> right, he do that and you and will your like one thing, a fee , will your like one thing, a fee, he wasn't. and then he became a very big fella. and then a little. thank you one. >> those were five. i want if you have four and public for it if you speak all one because i'm poor.i if you speak all one because i'm poor. i knew if you speak all one because i'm poor . i knew nothing about poor. i knew nothing about football back then. yeah. treat your skill give you shortly will have this race with the four skill cups and won the premier

league title as it was the first division. >> larry lloyd's one up which will increase your on stage. the second was inhale or no no i knew or larry makes you that thing that's on that smug smile. how's you fall? for what? i got some stories about larry lloyd. do you want to see? have we got time for a little. yeah. snowboarding? yeah. >> go on. you tell this kid itself, anticipate of what i call skill of his own. >> of though that duquesne club cuba. his nickname. cuba. that's his nickname. i don't know what cuba my don't know what cuba means, my buddy. merry to be. and you buddy. be merry to be. and you are the figure are his self upon the figure that has got cajones to that cronus has got cajones to walked over and i at those at all of them members like mired duquesne while with that ankle. wow. there he goes. wow. look at that. unbelievable. thinks that. unbelievable. he thinks it's i used to do that. it's clever i used to do that. this fits at six mile. >> only my smile happiness. >> only my smile happiness. >> yeah i want to like it. he actually can't believe he's done it. here we go. he's still alive

i know. there we are. that's a right. so it is. it's a rail. very, every time all am very, very. every time all i am of myself of those and no of myself year of those and no decay and still no decay. hometown of spindleruv mlyn . hometown of spindleruv mlyn. rhiannon. no. >> will it make it? this brings to you to leave. >> come take and i would. yeah, i know know i do, don't you. i know you know i do, don't you. >> oh on like with >> oh good on him like to with to have cushion strike si to he may have cushion strike si king as well. you is the you. oh bless you right. >> we'll see you later on okay. >> we'll see you later on okay. >> now it's going to start number three. number 8 to 820. and oh and one for the german ehhen >> oh well you're you're a veggie so that's fine. >> i'll be going to the chip that you had fun i've learned. but hope that you win. can but hope that you win. i can become anyone everybody. become anyone and everybody. good isnt become anyone and everybody. good isn't it? that's good as well, isn't it? that's next in making the. because one thing.

welcome back. we're going to look through the papers now. and the times leads with the government telling thames water bosses to clean up their own mess and not put the cost to on consumers who now face bills increasing by 40% to avoid nationalisation. >> the guardian has the un ordering israel to unblock aid flowing into gaza. >> the population facing starvation and famine. >> the mail leads with angela rayner under pressure to release details of her controversial property dealings, and also facing allegations that she may have dodged tax on to the telegraph, the prime minister becoming coming under fire by opposition parties for giving a knighthood in this strange honours list which has come out of the out of nowhere, really. >> anyway, is given a knighthood to a top tory donor who gave him £5 million and the i newspaper also leads, with taxpayers potentially being forced to bail out thames water as customers face a 40% increase in bills.

all right, let's talk through some of those then, with our senior political commentator nigel neilson and former government adviser claire pearsall. good see you both pearsall. good to see you both this morning, nigel. let's kick off with thames water because this is frankly whatever your whatever your political views or anything else, this is a disgrace. yes it is. >> i mean, i think the word that, michael gove used disgrace and, you know, these fat cat water bosses who are making huge profits. yes, absolutely. so the question is what the answer is to it, if the shareholders don't want to , don't want to invest in want to, don't want to invest in into the company, which they don't . so there's, you know, don't. so there's, you know, £500 million that it needs desperately by sunday, you . desperately by sunday, you. exactly. so it's unlikely to actually get there by that time , actually get there by that time, the taxpayer certainly shouldn't be picking up the tab for this. so so, answer should be to so so, the answer should be to nationalise . nationalise it. >> but forgive me, but doesn't that mean the taxpayer is picking up the tab?

>> well, the taxpayer is picking up the tab for the company. they need to be compensated. but the whole point about nationalisation is, then the then the taxpayer owns the company. so from then onwards you would actually recoup your money. >> well, if it makes a profit. >> well, if it makes a profit. >> yeah. but that's the whole thatis >> yeah. but that's the whole that is the whole point about it that is the whole point about it that if you at the moment profits are being taken out by shareholders. so they've been paid over the life of the company , more than £4.6 billion. company, more than £4.6 billion. now, if that 4.6 billion was invested in cleaner water, making the whole system more efficient, that would benefit both the consumer, but it also benefit the government . i mean, benefit the government. i mean, ihappen benefit the government. i mean, i happen to think that all pubuc i happen to think that all public services and utilities should be in public control because why should people be making a profit out of it? but in this particular case, definitely, clare, i think that thames water needs to just be

allowed to go bust . allowed to go bust. >> i think it needs to be run by the administrators. i think that how does that forgive any shareholders need to lose their money because this has been mismanagement at a woeful level. >> all right. forgive me because because this is this is where because this is this is where because we say things like this. and our guest earlier on was saying but what does that saying this, but what does that mean? if it goes bust, what happens to how it's managed? what the customers? what happens to the customers? what happens to the customers? what how does what happens? how just how does it work? >> the customers will still receive water, isn't receive water, so that isn't going company going to stop. the company of administrators appointed administrators will be appointed . they will take over the day to day running. so people won't see a difference in their supply. but it just means that the management are relieved of their duty, not that they've been doing massively great job of doing a massively great job of it and those shareholders it and all those shareholders who have taken out millions will not get their investment back. right. so i think that what the administrators will do will keep it running, keep everybody's taps going try and try and

taps going and try and try and sell it on, sell it on for a pound or whatever, absolutely. to a company that's going to run it. because i unlike nigel, i don't think that nationalising it is the answer. i really don't i'm convinced . i'm not convinced. >> yeah, surprisingly. >> yeah, surprisingly. >> i'm not convinced that government does a betterjob of government does a better job of running it. i think that private investment is needed. i don't think that thames water have covered themselves in any glory. they have this so badly. they have managed this so badly. >> what confuses a >> so what? what confuses me a little bit you two, then, little bit with you two, then, is you're saying the is that you're saying let the shareholders let the shareholders let the shareholders lose their money? yeah. you're saying in effect with the nationalisation plan, you're saying protect the shareholders ? shareholders? >> no, it doesn't protect them. i mean that the it is entirely up to the government how much compensation they pay. pay the shareholders. there would certainly them certainly have to pay them something. what saying is something. what i'm saying is strip of control of the strip them of control of the company and allow us to actually run the company and benefit from

it. >> but as you say, you'd still ultimately ultimately, you're saying taxpayers money would compensate to a greater or lesser degree, would would compensate the shareholders. >> but the difference would >> but but the difference would be than actually bailing be rather than actually bailing them out, which is what they're asking for at the moment, the taxpayer would own the company , taxpayer would own the company, would be investing in the company, and would gain any profits the company made. >> but it's almost as if you're rewarding those shareholders for the mismanagement that, of thames water . you would almost thames water. you would almost be saving them and saying, well, we don't want you, but here's sort of here's here's your money. back off you go. but i want to punish your sister for not doing a good job, but your system sends it back into the private sector for somebody to manage it. a hell of a lot better. yes. >> or worse. i mean, that's the whole point that that if the. i'm not sure if the public has a stake in the company, is it not not better overall, both for the company and for the public where you take the profit motive out

of it. >> e!- e oh, come on, >> but, oh, come on, nationalisation has not got a great track record. >> it doesn't. >> it doesn't. >> hasn't but but that was >> no it hasn't but but that was a long ago. i mean it was, a long time ago. i mean it was, it was margaret thatcher who privatised and we privatised everything. and we are going, going back well 30 odd so everyone sort of odd years. so everyone sort of talks about how awful british rail was. i'm not sure it was. but everything has so but everything has changed so much time . so if you much in that time. so if you were nationalising things, you'd do it in a different way, a more modern way, but it still doesn't if you're bringing it into nationalised sort of government control, that means that the government have to invest government will have to invest now everybody in government and also labour party who are also in the labour party who are looking to become government, are saying there's no money. >> so what will happen if the government takes it over? where is the investment coming from to make company work? because make this company work? because if looking not if you're just looking at not the know, is taxpayers the you know, this is taxpayers money and you are suggesting that taxpayers are going to have to fork out more money for a failing water. >> but the whole point is that

you've got to actually invest. they're talking about growth, economic growth at the moment. we economic growth. we invest in economic growth. >> we let some >> but why don't we let some private company invest in economic growth rather than the taxpayer? >> well, i mean, if you can find that private company, i mean, the stages be the the stages would be the administration. and when administration. and then when that you you'd that didn't work, you you'd nationalise as i say, ijust nationalise it. as i say, i just cut middleman and do cut out the middleman and do the, nationalisation . but the, the nationalisation. but the, the nationalisation. but the idea that that people own pubuc the idea that that people own public services, which they use is right in principle. and you take the profit motive out of it. so what money you put up, you're investing in that industry. >> well, let us know what you think . gb >> well, let us know what you think. gb views at gb news. com i'd love to be a fly on the wall, at your dining room table. you too. this is what it's like all the time. >> i don't know, i don't know about you, but what i'm left with that is not knowing. because they both make very good arguments. had vote on arguments. if i had to vote on which side to vote to go with on that plan for thames water, i wouldn't know. wouldn't quite know.

>> no. >> no. >> and divided >> no. » and >> no. >> and divided on the >> and you're divided on the views well. do keep them views as well. so do keep them coming claire, let's have a coming in, claire, let's have a look shall we? and look at the mail, shall we? and this the un. it's been this is the un. it's been accused of double standards after the government after it's urged the government to the rwanda asylum scheme. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> this is this is quite >> now, this is this is quite interesting. and think people interesting. and i think people are pointing at the un and saying, well, is hypocrisy saying, well, this is hypocrisy writ large. you're suggesting writ large. if you're suggesting the kingdom can't the united kingdom can't make a plan but you're plan with rwanda, but you're sending there, when sending people there, but when you down the detail you delve down into the detail of what the un does is, of it, what the un does is, well, what it has done is sent people , the most vulnerable people, the most vulnerable refugees from libya over to rwanda. and this has been on an emergency basis . it is also, emergency basis. it is also, temporary. they're not there for the rest of their days, and it is voluntary . the rest of their days, and it is voluntary. so i think there's been sort of just under 2000, i think 1700 in total , i think 400 think 1700 in total, i think 400 or so in the last year. so this is not quite the same scale as what the uk wants to do. it is

also not really comparable. this is emergency measures to get people out of danger, putting them there with the view of moving them somewhere else. so it's not the same at all, but i think it's going to put in people's minds that the un shouldn't have a view on united kingdom policy, which is a valid point. and i and i think it's worth having a look at how many people can have a say in what we do as a country, but it isn't quite as it's being sold. >> oh, right. well, that's interesting coming from your perspective . yeah. that one, perspective. yeah. on that one, nigel, i want to look at the front the mail, front of the mail, angela raynen front of the mail, angela rayner, the rayner, deputy leader of the labour party , under more labour party, under more pressure. yes. >> i think that this shows the sheer desperation of the tories to start making wage wars on this one. i mean, they've now reported her to the police to see if the police will reconsider launching an investigation into. >> well, they have said they will reconsider . will reconsider. >> they've said yes, but it's based on a tory complaint. i mean, the complaints gone in

from a conservative mp. so the police have to now reconsider whether they'll investigate whether they'll investigate whether they'll investigate whether they will or not. they may say, look, this is not one for us. i can't understand why if there is any problem around this, why hmrc aren't doing the investigation. they're the ones who would have lost money out of it. and it's unusual for the police to get involved in a thing like this. >> but why is it then that keir starmer see, i'm intrigued by keir starmer, who who knows all this sort of stuff right ? and he this sort of stuff right? and he said, well, i'm, i haven't looked the details. yeah well looked at the details. yeah well why that? because then he can why is that? because then he can say, haven't seen say, well i haven't seen anything is he trying to anything wrong. is he trying to deliberately distance himself. no. >> i think the point that keir starmer made yesterday was that his own team has had a look at this legal advice that angela rayner has received. angela rayner's team have gone through it. both teams are satisfied that the advice is valid . on the that the advice is valid. on the bafis that the advice is valid. on the basis of that, keir starmer is saying, look, i don't have to see all these personal details.

i'm the leader. i'm happy to trust my teams to say everything's okay, but is there a sense of and i don't know because i haven't clearly haven't seen anything of it. >> and we don't know what angela rayner has done or hasn't done. but when people say, well, we've seen it looks seen the advice and it looks like okay, sounds like like it's okay, sounds like there is, it's not as perhaps as totally clear cut as you'd want it to be. so at what point do like with the expenses scandal when people said, and in fact , when people said, and in fact, david cameron insisted on it, saying, well, you haven't actually done anything wrong, you haven't actually broken the rules, but need to give the rules, but you need to give the money back anyway. so wouldn't that clear this up? >> well, i mean, if she hasn't broken any rules. >> yes, but if but if they're not, they're not. >> no one's to give her the money back. >> but they're saying it's, >> but if they're saying it's, it's fact that it's a bit it's the fact that it's a bit more nuanced than that, isn't it? >> it is. and i think it's the case with everything. it's always the cover up and it's all this denial. and team this sort of denial. and my team has and starmer's team

has seen it and starmer's team has seen it and starmer's team has seen it and starmer's team has seen it, but we're not going to anybody else and we're to show anybody else and we're not going tell you what it is not going to tell you what it is we've seen either. well, i mean, that be a piece of details that could be a piece of details that could be a piece of details that years. that go back 15 years. >> mean, the what's starmer >> i mean, the what's starmer and angela have agreed and angela rayner have agreed to do publish their do is to, publish their tax returns, absolutely returns, which is absolutely right. we're about right. what we're talking about here personal details about here are personal details about tax affairs rather than tax returns , going back to the time returns, going back to the time when she was married or her own personal life would obviously come into that . i can understand come into that. i can understand why she's saying, well, hang on, i'm not prepared to just open up every personal detail about my life for everybody in order to stop the scrutiny and the questioning. >> in an election year , would >> in an election year, would that not be the best thing for her to do if she hasn't done anything wrong? well, i mean, she's arguing that that if, all the tories open their, their the tories open up their, their tax she's happily happy tax affairs, she's happily happy to hers. tax affairs, she's happily happy to but hers. tax affairs, she's happily happy to but she hers. tax affairs, she's happily happy to but she is hers. tax affairs, she's happily happy to but she is this. tax affairs, she's happily happy to but she is this odd situation >> but she is this odd situation of of saying there was of sort of saying there was a house that she was living in, but wasn't the same house as but it wasn't the same house as her husband and child were living but they weren't living in. but they weren't separated time. yeah.

separated at that time. yeah. >> that's a bit odd. >> i mean, that's a bit odd. well, it certainly is odd. and i would imagine that whatever the personal details are around, thatis personal details are around, that is bit that angela that is the bit that angela rayneris that is the bit that angela rayner is not very keen on sharing, which can understand sharing, which i can understand also for the privacy of the other people, people involved, the issue here really is whether or not she owes £3,000 in capital gains tax or not, which is which should be a forjob hmrc just to pay it, won't she? >> well, i think it should have been paid. it would have shown the right and she hasn't done it i >> -- >> but you don't know that. no, i don't know that. but do you. all right. >> we're having a domestic now. >> we're having a domestic now. >> see you later. it's the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> morning. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office. the easter weekend is here, and the weather looks

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>> loads of you getting in touch already on thames water , which already on thames water, which we're going to talk about in just a second, i'm intrigued by this. so, nationalisation is what a lot of you are going for. i wonder if you change your mind after what we heard from nigel and clare earlier on when clare was saying let them go bankrupt. yeah. because otherwise you are effectively to money effectively having to pay money to shareholders. taxpayers to the shareholders. taxpayers money to the shareholders, to renationalise it . renationalise it. nationalisation is the answer, says john. all those billions siphoned off to enrich top management and wealthy shareholders should have been used for the public good, he goes on to say privatising a pubuc goes on to say privatising a public monopoly such as water never made sense. >> it shouldn't have happened in the first place. and kate says we should never have privatised the infrastructure councils and pubuc the infrastructure councils and public transport. the government needs to take back control on

all aspects of our society. the whole country is being destroyed , not only our standards of living our culture, morals living but our culture, morals and values too. >> yeah, another john says you need to let the company go bust and in the end, the government can take over. why should taxpayers keep propping up foreign companies and foreign investors? >> yeah, and that's the point. that's the point. our first guest said actually that we need to have patriotic investors, british investors. that part of the problem is the fact that so many of these have foreign investors and foreign owned. >> i think that's nonsense, though, to be fair, because it's all about making money and whether whether you are whether you whether you are running efficient service to running an efficient service to make it just doesn't make money, it just doesn't matter if they're british or not, as as that goes. but not, as far as that goes. but it's whether it's whether, as nigel says, it just be nigel says, should it just be owned by the state anyway? but we renationalise it we can't renationalise it without giving money to the shareholders, which people like nigel are blaming for the current situation anyway? yeah. >> whereas rees—mogg, clare blames them as well, but says

let it go bankrupt and they lose their money. >> and then you just another investor will come in and buy it at a knock down price and make it all work. >> well, do let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> well, michael gove, the levelling up secretary has said that thames water bosses are a disgrace . this is, of course, in disgrace. this is, of course, in the wake of the fact that they say to get out of the big hole they're in, they want to increase customers bills by 40. >> for years now, we've seen the customers of thames water taken advantage of by successive management teams that have been taking out profits and not investing as they should have been. the is not to been. so the answer is not to hit consumers . the answer been. so the answer is not to hit consumers. the answer is hit the consumers. the answer is for the management team to look to their own approach and ask themselves why they're in this difficult situation. and of course, the answer is because of serial mismanagement for which they must carry the can. >> well, the firm's bosses have admitted it could face the risk

of emergency nationalisation as its cash crisis deepens. >> well, shareholders have refused to give the company half £1 billion of extra financing that they want . they say that that they want. they say that rescue plan is uninvestable . rescue plan is uninvestable. >> well, instead shareholders want the regulator, ofwat, to increase customers bills by up to 40% over the next five years. >> so what has gone so wrong with i mean, you wouldn't have thought it was that difficult to make a water company work. really. it's something that we all need. you just need to make sure it's clean. you need to make sure that the sewage is properly handled at the other end. let's talk to senior lecturer for natural sciences at bangor doctor bangor university. doctor christian good to see you christian dunn. good to see you as we what is going as always. we what is going wrong? i mean, we're seeing it with number of water companies with a number of water companies , obviously catastrophically with a number of water companies , owithjsly catastrophically with a number of water companies , owith thames strophically with a number of water companies , owith thames water cally with a number of water companies , owith thames water .ally wrong with thames water. >> yeah, indeed. when it comes to thames water, mean, i don't to thames water, i mean, i don't even whether or even know whether to cry or laugh mean, i think laugh about it. i mean, i think a to describe that their a word to describe that their management board is, is probably the what they're pumping the same as what they're pumping out our rivers. i mean,

out into our rivers. i mean, it's absolutely terrible, it's just absolutely terrible, however, is however, what i would say is that you that when it comes, you mentioned, you know, how difficult to run a water difficult is it to run a water company. and my, issue there company. and my, my issue there would situation that would be that the situation that we're when it we're faced with now when it comes the pollution in our comes to the pollution in our waters, the water companies are i'm not defending water companies or the water industry, but the water industry. it's the tip of the iceberg of a huge societal problem, it's not just their fault. there are other factors contributing to the pollution of our waters, other industries, but also how we have run our country, how we our building industry or our construction industry has worked. there's concrete everywhere, too much concrete where it doesn't need to be. we should have been looking at things called sustainable drainage systems, which in europe, in france do all europe, in france they do all the time. we haven't done the time. we haven't really done that country, and that in this country, and actually using our landscape as well for our agriculture and other purposes, it's not been donein other purposes, it's not been done in a way that can help water management and water pollution as well. one example of that would be wetlands. so

those marshes and fens and bogs and swamps in our country, you know, we've lost somewhere like 75% of them in the past 200 years. they've just been destroyed. but those wetland habitats, look, you've one habitats, look, you've seen one now, right screen. now, a now, right on the screen. now, a riparian strip, that little sort of soggy bit. well, literally, there's no there's no pair there's no there's no way pair and wetland actually, and wetland there actually, that's the problem. there's no 509931 that's the problem. there's no soggy the water and soggy bit between the water and the land. they've just got those hard banks there . that's hard banks there. that's a serious problem when it comes to water pollution , because that water pollution, because that 509931 water pollution, because that soggy bit on the banks of those rivers, that helps remove pollution, kind of the pollution, the kind of the microbes the and the microbes and the soil and the plants, they together to plants, they work together to remove different remove so many different pollutants from nitrates and phosphates to pharmaceutical waste drug waste as waste and illicit drug waste as well. but because we've done exactly what that picture shows, we've canalised we've just we've canalised it. we've just kind put concrete, borders or kind of put concrete, borders or banks all the way down many of our rivers. we've lost that special area, on those rivers, which is just contributing to this problem, and it kind of leads into a point that was made this morning that at some point,

thames water, other water companies would need to raise a lot of money to finance a huge programme of reinvestment and modernisation of our water systems. >> yeah. and indeed and they've not done that. and that's i think that's when you know, so i'm not defending water companies and now i will slate water companies massively because this is when they've not invested correctly and they've just, they've just operated as a business and, but not even a business and, but not even a business as a bad business. that's problem. they've that's the problem. they've operated business. so operated as a bad business. so they've not provided a service and that no one really minds. if you're providing a good service, by make some money by all means make some money from it by all means. but if you're a good you're not providing a good service, dare take money service, how dare you take money from us? >> about people like you? i >> what about people like you? i don't know you do it don't know if you do it personally, but there must be people your of people with your level of expertise, christian, who are advising companies or if advising water companies or if not, there should be, yes . not, there should be, yes. >> so this is again, why don't just like slate and water

companies? because the people i deal with, water companies. yes. companies? because the people i dealpeoplevater companies. yes. companies? because the people i dealpeople that companies. yes. companies? because the people i dealpeople that iompanies. yes. companies? because the people i dealpeople that i deal|nies. yes. companies? because the people i dealpeople that i deal with yes. companies? because the people i dealpeople that i deal with all;. the people that i deal with all are passionately wanting to make are passionately wanting to make a here. they want to a difference here. they want to reduce pollution. they want to improve habitats. they improve natural habitats. they want to do that. i think when you get to the very top, the management, i mean, that's when it that's well above my pay grade. that's when grade. and i think that's when things a little bit things start to go a little bit pear shaped. >> are your >> fryston what are your thoughts on nationalisation? do you the answer? you think that is the answer? because think lot of people because i think a lot of people are asking this morning, should our companies been our water companies ever been privatised first place? privatised in the first place? >> there are two >> i mean, i think there are two separate there. should separate questions there. should it in previously, it be privatised in previously, but now whether we should but when now whether we should renationalise. i think renationalise. i mean, i think you it's not been mentioned you mean it's not been mentioned here discussions that here in these discussions that you've been having, but one of the that you when you've been having, but one of the if that you when you've been having, but one of the if thatthat you when you've been having, but one of the if that happened, when you've been having, but one of the if that happened, lot1en you if that happened, a lot of our pensions also tied up our pensions are also tied up with companies. so if you with these companies. so if you renationalise what happens there, i think we there, i think it's a we the water and by water industry. and by that i mean the companies and the regulators, water industry. regulators, the water industry. and uk is currently not fit and the uk is currently not fit for purpose . it's what for purpose. it's not what society and most society wants, and it's most certainly what not what the

environment needs. we need to rethink we massively need to rethink it. we massively need to rethink it. we massively need to rethink it, whether that's privatisation or continuing privatisation or continuing privatisation , with privatisation, but with far stricter guidelines. an stricter guidelines. for an example would be fines. example of that. would be fines. currently, you know, if you pollute, you get fined . but pollute, you get fined. but that's just become part of that's now just become part of the business normal for the business as as normal for companies . got start companies. we've got to start looking tougher being tougher looking at tougher being tougher health breaches in health and safety breaches in the uk are for a ceo or a manager or a boss is found guilty and safety guilty of a health and safety breach, can face breach, they can face a custodial sentence. we've got to start looking at that for environmental when it environmental issues. when it comes companies, it's comes to water companies, it's got get that tough. got to get that tough. >> so it that we appear >> so why is it that we appear at least to have seen things get dramatically worse over the last couple of years? i mean, particularly because there's been a lot of talk about it on the news, you know, the sewage issue, the waste water issue. why does that suddenly seem to have got worse ? yes, i think for have got worse? yes, i think for various reasons. the one reason, i mean, one reason not defending water companies again, but one reason is there is more monitoring now of waters. there is there is more monitoring. but

i do think as there has i do think as well, there has just a much more a public just been a much more a public awareness. organisations like surfers against sewage and fergal sharkey has doing fergal sharkey has been doing kind of campaigning. i kind of lots of campaigning. i think has been growth in think there has been a growth in that and i think that's that campaign and i think that's unked that campaign and i think that's linked across the linked to an interest across the country environmental, country in more environmental, purposes and wanting to be more, look after nature more. i think that's that part of that that's that it's part of that kind that trend , and then kind of that trend, and then i think as well, this, this has angered people because people can people can physically see you walk down a river and you can see it. i mean, you can actually see it. so i think it's just it has actually angered people in a very similar to just it has actually angered peo plastic| very similar to just it has actually angered peo plastic pollutionilar to just it has actually angered peo plastic pollution crisis, to the plastic pollution crisis, about a couple years when about in a couple of years when people oh, we're people were saying, oh, we're seeing it. we wanted to do something it. think something about it. i think that's the here. and i do that's the case here. and i do find it fascinating that sewage is to be is now potentially going to be one the contributing factors one of the contributing factors to change our government. i find that fascinating that absolutely fascinating that people angry about this people are so angry about this that actually going that they're actually it's going to be a contributing factor to who they vote for, and, and that that's why politicians are

taking it so seriously, i think, and that's why it is being taken so seriously is because politicians going, i could politicians going, oh, i could i could lose my seat because, you know, river is polluted know, my local river is polluted and got to doing being and i've got to be doing being seen be doing something about seen to be doing something about it. >> it. very briefly >> just, just very briefly because out of time. we because we're out of time. we see normally, you know, environmental issues and business on opposite sides business being on opposite sides of the coin, if you like. how do we make them integrate better? >> this is a real good example of how we have to work together. environmentalists and environmental scientists and business. and that's one of the ways that we can do that is using nature based solutions. so that's what i'm talking about. my that's what i'm talking about. my wetlands, but getting companies to build those companies to fund to build those , those systems, those wetland systems and other systems as well , because then that systems and other systems as well, because then that is a company paying for a natural system, which is going to have stacked benefits. it's going to reduce water pollution, it's going to manage water levels and it's going to increase biodiversity and increase our well—being as well. so we've got to start looking at getting companies involved with

companies more involved with that. experience, they that. and in my experience, they are massively understanding that that. and in my experience, they are iwantingy understanding that that. and in my experience, they are wanting tomderstanding that that. and in my experience, they are wanting to investanding that that. and in my experience, they are wanting to invest injing that that. and in my experience, they are wanting to invest in it|g that that. and in my experience, they are wanting to invest in it asthat well. >> doctor christine done really good to see you this morning. thank you so much for your time and your thoughts that and your thoughts on that issue. do you think. do let us know what you think. gb views at gb news. >> . >> com. >> com. >> he knows his stuff. i really like talking him. like talking to him. >> he should on the board. >> he should be on the board. >> he should be on the board. >> honestly, i think it'd be better, wouldn't it, thames water responded to all of water have responded to all of this. like this. they'd said they'd like to reassure despite reassure customers that despite this , it's business this announcement, it's business as usual for thames water. our 8000 staff remain committed to working our partners in the working with our partners in the supply chain to provide our services for benefit of our services for the benefit of our customers, communities and the environment . environment. >> now. rishi sunak has sparked an easter honours row as he announced a knighthood for one of the conservatives s biggest donors. >> yeah, the pm gave the honour to mohammed mansour, who donated £5 million to the party last year. yeah >> well, the list also included four tory mps who've been loyal to rishi sunak, including philip

davies of this parish. >> yeah, let's talk to former labour adviser kevin maher, who joins us now. good to see you this morning. joins us now. good to see you this morning . morning, joins us now. good to see you this morning. morning, jim. is this morning. morning, jim. is this a cash for honours scandal or not? >> well, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, i'd say probably is. it's always very interesting. the timing of these things. it tells you everything, really. if you're looking, if you're looking down the whitehall at whitehall rubbish chute, at christmas easter , you christmas and at easter, you usually find some fairly unsavoury things that have been kicked , hoping that either kicked out, hoping that either nobody notices or that , nobody notices at all or that, or that the story runs into the kind of dead zone, during the houday kind of dead zone, during the holiday breaks. so i suspect the government knew this was going to be a problem, it's embarrassed by it, which is why it's made this announcement at this but yes , it's this point, but yes, it's a classic of the of the of the ill. it's a classic. here's a big donor to a political party who then gets a big top honour, now, you know, people may say , now, you know, people may say, well, that's fine, that's just

how politics works. or people might say, actually, you know what? the whole honours system really needs to be about selflessness and actually party donors should never get anything. and i would make that as a general rule, frankly. and also people just doing their day job, i think that is also people just doing their day job, something that is also people just doing their day job, something that it is also people just doing their day job, something that the is also people just doing their day job, something that the system not something that the system should reflect . it should should really reflect. it should be about acts of real, real selflessness , community service, selflessness, community service, service to the country, service to an industry, perhaps over a long period of time. something where someone's got track record and credibility rather than something that's swept in, chucked a pile of cash to a political party, and then gets put in the house of lords, which is bizarre. >> yeah, i'm sure lots of people would agree with that point. kevin. look, the timing of this is interesting for another reason it? reason as well, isn't it? because it's outside the because it's outside of the new year's list the year's honours list and the king's honours list. king's birthday honours list. now, to fuel now, is that going to fuel speculation that there could be a election? a summer election? >> definitely will. no doubt >> it definitely will. no doubt be a general . be a general. >> oh he's gone.

>> oh he's gone. >> i've lost kevin, but we got the gist. >> it definitely will. >> it definitely will. but there's but there's, there's a dissolution honours list as well is there. yeah. when. so when parliament is. yeah. when we've got the dissolution. when we've got the dissolution. when we've got the dissolution. when we've got the dissolution, so in the wake of the general election, then there's an honours list there. >> so timing is funny then, isn't it. >> but it is. it is a little bit funny. cash for honours. i mean, it doesn't smell right, does it? but it's always happened. that's the thing with all parties. >> anyway, that's not what you think. 0h, >> anyway, that's not what you think. oh, god . think. oh, god. >> we're. >> we're. >> we're. >> we spend too much time together, i think. >> yes, we do. >> two peas in a pod, now, sir keir starmer has had to drop his student ideas when he became leader to prove he can be prime minister. >> well, that's what his close ally, jenny chapman, had to say to our political editor, christopher hope, on his latest podcast . podcast. >> here's a snip. >> here's a snip. >> these the flip flopping. now

that keir starmer has criticised for which he can do in opposition, is that a strength, do you think i see it as starting out with a prospectus when you are a brand new, straight into, you know, a leader of the opposition , and leader of the opposition, and then you see, you've seen keir evolve from that, taking over the bernie's skip of a party of jeremy corbyn to now being a credible candidate for prime minister. >> his idea as he got into got power that got the power, didn't he? when you were supporting him as the leadership candidate, you know, the tuition fees, abolishing credit , abolishing universal credit, defending of defending eu freedom of movement. dropped those movement. and he's dropped those because he wants to be prime minister. >> you know, this is a guy that's serious about his politics. he is not there, as we've just discussed, to lead a protest his job to protest movement. his job is to save the british public trust in me. i will look after your future, your pensions, your mortgages, your kids futures . mortgages, your kids futures. these are serious, big things that we want to be trusted with.

you cannot have someone who just goes around saying things you know, that they maybe they've believed when they were a student, or maybe, you know, are things that are popular within the labour party. you've got to have a credible offer for the whole country. and that's the journey that keir , i say there journey that keir, i say there has been a journey i completely up front about that. yeah. but i'm really pleased to have seen it working in the polls. >> i mean, i've been struck by how on security he, he's been in lockstep with the government. and i think that was really important because, the nadir for many people joined. jeremy corbyn was over salisbury when he questioned whether it was russia behind the poisoning and anyone involved in whitehall and security in this country would say that was a moment of which everyone had took a breath and thought, this can this guy be prime minister? and it seems that even it's been that even even on and it's been hard and gaza, he has hard on israel and gaza, he has stayed government and stayed with the government and hasn't really gone ahead of where are on the big where they are on the big foreign policy matters. yes, i think that's noticed by a

think that's been noticed by a lot i think that's been important >> i think that's been important because show that because you need to show that you be responsible and you you can be responsible and you are not going play politics are not going to play politics with something ukraine, with something like ukraine, you know, to play know, you are not going to play games with this. there is a national interest, which is higher and above a much more important than your party political interest. and that is one of the reasons that keir starmer has gained the respect of the british public for that, and i think that's it's what he believes as well. you know, his background as a chief prosecutor, he understands how criminal gangs work, what terrorism is really all about. and how you prevent it. and i think that that international perspective that he has on those issues that are about keeping people safe. yeah, means that, you know , he isn't someone who you know, he isn't someone who thinks, right, what's in it for me? where's the red line between me? where's the red line between me and the tories on this issue? it's what is the right thing to do. >> and that's out now. >> and that's out now. >> yes. wherever you get your podcasts and on the gb news website as well. >> yeah. interesting. listen,

actually, it's nice to have those in—depth conversations with just with people that you can't just do news programme. do on a normal news programme. >> have a podcast? >> so do i have a podcast? >> so do i have a podcast? >> . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> do you listen to podcasts? >> no. >> no. >> i'm obsessed. can't get enough. >> really? yes, i said, i do listen to well there is one i watch called help. >> i sexted my boss, is, >> i sexted my boss, which is, which a comedy. well it's not which is a comedy. well it's not a comedy. it's a sort of comedy. it's an amusing one. it's, william hanson and jordan north. >> would you recommend. >> would you recommend. >> it's brilliant. >> it's brilliant. >> go, i might give that >> if you go, i might give that a go. >> if you go, i might give that a gperhaps if you were >> perhaps if you were a slightly older generation . might slightly older generation. might not be quite for you. so little bit cheeky , let's put it that bit cheeky, let's put it that way. but i'll watch it on youtube rather than as a podcast i >> -- >> oh, that's very modern. >> oh, that's very modern. >> i know he's so technical, i know. >> right. shall we crack on? >> right. shall we crack on? >> let's now the tavistock gender identity development service is closing for good. this weekend, two years after a damning report which highlighted major concerns. >> well, our reporter, ray addison has looked back at the history of the nhs service. the tavistock gender identity clinic

will finally close its doors on sunday. >> it follows severe criticism that it gave some of the most vulnerable members of society treatments that lacked sufficient safety or clinical effectiveness. it was the brainchild of psychiatrist doctor domenico de celli , doctor domenico de celli, inspired by a single case of a teenager who claimed she was a boy in a female body. he told me when i was a child i had all this differences and my parents should have seen it. >> why didn't they do anything about it? but that implanted me the idea of creating a service for children and adolescents from its launch in 1989, with just a handful of referrals , it just a handful of referrals, it grew into the largest children's gender clinic in the world, referring around 2000 for puberty blockers but failing to follow up to see how they were doing. >> it also ignored the concerns of staff, some of whom became whistleblowers . formal concerns whistleblowers. formal concerns were first raised in 2005 by therapist sue evans. my concerns

back then was actually around a 16 year, 16 year old child that i had seen referred after four sessions for a hormone therapy treatment . treatment. >> it is strange that such a powerful medication could be given on such a small level of assessment. yes two thirds of the clinic's patients were female, and they often had an underlying mental health condition. >> but the clinic stopped providing therapy and focused on a medical pathway . there was a medical pathway. there was also concern that patient support groups such as transgender charity mermaids had undue influence , which they've undue influence, which they've denied. in 2018, a devastating report by doctor david bell concluded that the service was not fit for purpose. the following year, a legal challenge brought by former patient keira bell questioned if children could properly consent to treatment that ultimately failed, but it caught the attention of the media. my hope was that outside of the noise of the culture wars, the fort would

shine a light on this harmful experiment on vulnerable children and young people. >> these drugs seriously harmed me ways than one, and me in more ways than one, and they have harmed many more, particularly girls and women. >> in september 2020, nhs england announced an independent review by doctor hilary cass . review by doctor hilary cass. she found that options other than gender transitioning were not being explored and staff felt under pressure not to question parents and children's assumptions . finally, in july assumptions. finally, in july 2022, nhs england announced it would be closing the clinic and opening new regional services offering psychosocial and psychological support but not medical. for some, the closure will come too late, their bodies forever changed by an nhs service which failed to protect them. ray addison, gb news now at 7:23, let's take a look at the weather for you now with alex deakin. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> morning. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office. the easter weekend is here and the weather looks like slowly turning a little dner like slowly turning a little drier and a little warmer. with many of us likely to have a fine day on sunday. far from fine out there today, although some of us starting off with a bit of sunshine, but showers already in some places and the showers just get going more widely from late morning through into the early afternoon. even thundery afternoon. heavy, even thundery showers zipping through on a fairly brisk breeze so it won't rain all day. when the rain all day. but when the showers come along, hail! thunder also possible. thunder is also possible. temperatures maybe just sneaking thunder is also possible. teraieratures maybe just sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bittures maybe just sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared)e just sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared tojust sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared to yesterday, ng up a bit compared to yesterday, but still feeling cool when the showers hit. because of that showers hit. and because of that brisk will continue to brisk wind that will continue to blow. across the uk blow. showers across the uk through this evening and overnight, they should tend to fade in many locations, but we'll keep some going across the west coast of wales, southwest england and some continuing to push into parts of scotland

also, but many central and eastern parts of england turning dry and clear. pretty chilly as well. well down well. temperatures well down into single digits to start saturday, but we should start with a bit of sunshine on saturday. tomorrow morning. fine over the midlands and eastern england in particular, and generally, there will generally, although there will still around still be showers around tomorrow. not as many as today. a better chance that most of tomorrow will be dry and bright, particularly across parts of southern england . could see some southern england. could see some more rain returning to the southwest later but a bit southwest later on, but a bit more the way of sunshine. more in the way of sunshine. feeling bit warmer. and for feeling a bit warmer. and for many us, sunday looks decent. many of us, sunday looks decent. >> warm feeling inside >> t that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hey, it doesn't feel like it, but spring is on the way and today's the final day, to enter a massive spring giveaway so you can prepare yourself for the sunshine with gadgets, a shopping spree, and £12,345 in

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please check the closing time if watching or listening on demand. good luck ! good luck! >> yes, good luck indeed. now should the west end display ramadan lights over easter ? ramadan lights over easter? that's our debate. next .

>> it's 729 now. some people have expressed concern because ramadan lights went on display across central london. but this weekend, which, of course, is easter weekend . easter weekend. >> yes. they were switched on earlier this month by london mayor sadiq khan, whose spokesperson said the mayor is standing up for londoners of all faiths. >> well, in response, westminster council has said it supports festivals from different faith communities throughout the year. >> so we're asking this morning

should there be ramadan lights on over easter? well, joining us now is broadcaster and relationship coast coach fahima mohammed and broadcaster and commentator khadija khan. very good to see you both this morning . fahima. let's start morning. fahima. let's start with you, shall we? you think this is a good thing? >> it's not a good thing or a bad thing. i just think it just shows inclusivity as well as integration. and it just so happens that ramadan follows and coincides with easter this year, because it follows the lunar calendar. we're not deliberately trying to overtake anything, and it has been approved by the council through regulations. and at the end of the day, i don't see anyone really trying to offend anybody. if they were going to be easter sort of celebratory lights or anything. parades then no one's stopping it and i don't. and this was not done illegally or anything like that, or to overtake anything . that, or to overtake anything. it just so happens to coincide with easter and i don't

understand what the uproar is all about. khadija first and foremost, we have a very british way to celebrate and appreciate religion and religious festivals, and it happens and people are very much comfortable and they don't have any , you and they don't have any, you know, reservations about that. >> so it's there is no need to override that. but we are talking about here is an excessive and overzealous display of a particular religion. we see people taking over streets like offering prayer, and then we see some muslim politicians pushing their religious belief into politics. and then we see this ramadan lights. it was done fast. i don't think so. there was any need to just, do it again because that is a kind of overriding the very subtle british way to celebrate religious belief in, in social discourse. so i think it's very

dangerous when you are prioritising or pushing one particular religion or religious belief into the public domain, because that generates , because that generates, resentment, among other beliefs. it doesn't generate resentment. >> let me. no, no, i'm sorry, but you are talking. no, you are not. not only generating resentment , but also, there is resentment, but also, there is just because of the hate and bigotry is okay problem. >> let let famer come back on. >> let let famer come back on. >> you know what the uk operates under a capitalistic economic system, right? and at the end of the day it promotes businesses. this was actually funded by the aziz foundation who is a rich businessman. there was no opposition to it. and only 30% of the uk actually even claims to be christians. you know, at the end of the day, the problem is why are they not coming forward, putting their money forward, putting their money forward, putting their money forward, putting that forward and their faith? i would and putting their faith? i would like that's how it is. no one like to that's how it is. no one is putting their religion across to removed from king's

to anybody removed from king's cross station. khadija. cross station. let khadija. but that's a totally separate it's a totally separate issue. >> she was not signed off by the authorities. it was not appropriate for anybody to put that hadith on the departure board, which was reserved for the passenger information. so that was removed. it was a clear , crystal clear message from the british public that they don't want to see any particular religion dictating their day to day lives. when we are telling them when we have chinese new yeah them when we have chinese new year, they are getting khan . year, they are getting khan. >> when we have demolished all of these things are all there . of these things are all there. hanukkah chinese celebrations, all of that is all part of multiculturalism and diversity and inclusivity and integration. and there's never a problem . and there's never a problem. only when it comes to muslims. then there seems to be an outrage and outrage by certain individuals . individuals. >> there is no forgive me, but i guess part of the argument falls back to this excessive and

overzealous thing that khadija mentioned. because with what has been approved is not over. no, but with the with with easter , but with the with with easter, with, some of the jewish celebrations. what you don't see is anything as bright and vibrant and as public. >> so then whose fault is that ? >> so then whose fault is that? >> so then whose fault is that? >> well, that's a, that's a, that's a valid thing is that, you know, the system provides equality for you to go and put yourself forward. >> muslims contribute £31 billion to the uk economy, and it is about that to a certain extent because like i said, we operate on a capitalist system which part of british fabric and we need to appreciate it. what we need to appreciate it. what we are also part of the british fabnc we are also part of the british fabric from all faiths and no faith together. >> and we represent of all faiths. >> but there just seems to be a problem from certain individuals, particularly who are with one particular group. >> it's no good talking over each other because people at home won't be able to necessarily hear what is the

what is the problem, khadija, with with a religion being celebrated. and i mean, you are right that , you know, in the uk right that, you know, in the uk we do tend to be a bit more subduedin we do tend to be a bit more subdued in how we mark these, these festivals apart from christmas really, and easter obviously is quite commercial ized now, but that is our own fault , isn't ized now, but that is our own fault, isn't it? and if why should we stop other people from celebrating in a way which is a bit more vibrant? if that's what they want to do? >> no it's not. the thing is that we celebrate all religious belief here in the uk , and that belief here in the uk, and that is a very appropriate way to do that. but in recent days we should not be forgetting that one particular religion has been pushed into public domain. let me give you some examples. hannukah celebrations were cancelled because that may offend muslims. then we see some people taking over the streets and offering prayer. that is not mentioned in their religious belief and that is not required .

belief and that is not required. and then we see muslim politicians like sadiq khan and humza yousaf. they are putting their photos on the social media while call for the prayer at the resident of for the prime minister, first minister of scotland . i mean why we are scotland. i mean why we are trying to bring one particular religion. >> that's not about religion. it just so happens that they represent a particular faith and you have an issue with that politician doing well. maybe they should come up and actually do that then there's nothing wrong with that. no wrong with that. there is no moral superiority when it comes to muslims. >> all moral values, >> we all have moral values, whether we believe in a religion or not. let's this or not. so let's put this one thing there are thing straight that there are people society who people in british society who are religious and non—religious and muslims. they claim no moral superiority over other religion or non—religious people. so when muslim politicians and they bnng muslim politicians and they bring these kind of things, you know, a lot of emphasis on belief, which is not no, they don't just emphasise only on their own beliefs. >> i'm sorry , that's completely

>> i'm sorry, that's completely wrong. but they don't just emphasise only on their beliefs. you've seen sadiq khan there for holy. you've seen him for the diwali celebrations, you've seen him for all types of celebrations, but you're just picking and choosing on one particular because against the muslim. so that's just really against one particular, because you yourself do not like the islamic faith. why don't we just one say it out there? how it is being pushed into political and social discourse? >> i am all for celebrating. i celebrate christmas, i celebrate holi, i celebrate hanukkah, i celebrate eid, so i am all for celebrating all religious festivals because i believe that these religious festivals bring people together , okay? and in people together, okay? and in a cohesive society such such as britain , we need that, right? britain, we need that, right? but we don't have to. well then what's happening? >> we are out of time. >> we are out of time. >> that's what's happening with you. we are at time. >> thank you very much. both of you. let us know what you think. you'll have an opinion at home. gb views at gb news. com. ladies, thank you very much.

you're welcome. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> all right. >> all right. >> got paul coyte coming >> we've got paul coyte coming up. he's your sports up. he's got all your sports news in just a moment.

>> it's time for the sports news. now with paul coyte. who's here with us? >> good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. i've >> good morning. i've got >> good morning. i've got so many bits and pieces for you. where would you like to start? >> i we'll with >> i think we'll start with sandra tenali, sandro tonali, newcastle . newcastle. >> i say newcastle player. >> well, i say newcastle player. he officially, he's not he is officially, but he's not actually playing newcastle he is officially, but he's not ac'thely playing newcastle he is officially, but he's not ac'thely playingbecause/castle he is officially, but he's not ac'thely playingbecause/caswas at the moment because he was bannedin at the moment because he was banned in october for ten months, found guilty of gambling on he was playing on matches when he was playing for milan. it an italian for ac milan. it was an italian ban then became a worldwide ban that then became a worldwide ban, meant he ban, which meant that he couldn't play newcastle. couldn't play for newcastle. ellie and he's been banned ellie and now he's been banned there until, well, so it's ten months, so we're looking for quite some time. but now the latest part of this now this is

when things are where we say sinister or whether we look at it and think, you know, it looks like there's a problem is that it's been found gambling again. and these are the charges now from the football association. so from over here, not so this is from over here, not from italy. charged with 50 betting offences between august and october this year. last year . and, so it's now a question of whether the charges will then go to another ban off the back of that. >> oh dear. has the mike gone. >> oh dear. has the mike gone. >> yeah mike's gone paul has it really. >> so you talking to mine? >> so you talking to mine? >> don't worry about that. it's gone all funny. so what else have we got? >> so anyway, this is this is such a such a more enjoyable. would you like to join us, ellie? this is much, much more enjoyable. >> the sport that we should do all sport. >> the sport that we should do all i sport. >> the sport that we should do all i think�*rt. >> the sport that we should do all i think so as well. should we >> i think so as well. should we talk about, like, why you're shouting now? talk about, like, why you're showhat now? talk about, like, why you're showhat would you like do? >> what would you like to do? >> what would you like to do? >> let's about luke >> let's talk about luke littler. luke littler did marvellously. did marvellously. yeah. did marvellously. yeah. did marvellously yesterday. premier league beat league of darts. so he beat michael gerwen. he beat luke

michael van gerwen. he beat luke humphries who he actually beat who in the in the who he lost to in the in the world. mikes are right world. oh my mikes are right now. everything's fine. now. yeah everything's fine. yeah he lost to in the yeah so who he lost to in the world championship final . i'm world championship final. i'm not wanted. but you know what, how difficult it to score how difficult it is to score 180. it's very difficult. i was playing with my son joe. playing darts with my son joe. he didn't last night. look how close this came. i think we've got. look, that's. >> that's not your son, joe. looks like luke littler. >> i was playing darts, so i threw . this is me yesterday. threw. this is me yesterday. look at that closely. now you can their mind because you can see their mind because you can see their mind because you can see their dart can see their spurs dart flights. oh, of course they are. the first one was the 60. the second treble 20. now by second one. treble 20. now by the third dart i was getting a little bit shaky, a little bit shaky. >> is it in the green and the green treble five. >> so just missed out. so all i can say is that there's hope for everybody. >> i just think you walked up and shoved them in. >> now would you really >> no. now would you really think do something think that i would do something if was going to that, if i was going to do that, i would stick them all in there and i'd look at my nine and i'd say, look at my nine dart finish. so that's how close it but luke littler, though

it was. but luke littler, though still continuing very, still continuing to do very, very got 30s. very well, got 30s. >> can talk about chocolate? >> can we talk about chocolate? >> can we talk about chocolate? >> talk about chocolate >> let's talk about chocolate because it easter. is because it is easter. it is easter. and also the olympics are paris. so chocolatiers are in paris. so chocolatiers around sport around paris are making sport themed easter eggs. yes. so let's have a look at these. they look so yummy. that looks very nice. there's the chocolatier that we would be talking about. he's one of the finest in paris. >> what's that got to do with sport ? sport? >> that just looks like a regular easter egg to me. it's like . like. >> stephen, don't question it too much. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> that's the big one. now that's la maison du chocolate in paris. it's 7.6 kilos. how much would you pay for that? look at it. much do you reckon, it. how much do you reckon, tenner? about £1,000? well, tenner? how about £1,000? well, keep two, 2500 euros. so keep going. two, 2500 euros. so that they do do cheaper ones . that they do do cheaper ones. but there we are. it's like a sack race with the date there and the easter egg in the middle. 2500 pounds. there he is. >> oh, it is.- >> oh, it is

is. >> oh, it is big, to be fair, andifs >> oh, it is big, to be fair, and it's 24kg. >> 20. yeah. oh well, there you go. it must be solid , right? go. it must be solid, right? we're out of time, paul. okay. gotta go, because otherwise we're not going to squeeze any. >> have try again. we >> we'll have to try again. we will. we'll have another go. >> have another we'll >> we'll have another go. we'll take through the

at 748. let's go through the papers this morning . should we? papers this morning. should we? with the husband and wife extraordinaire couple? our senior political commentator nigel nelson, and former government , miss claire government adviser, miss claire pearsall. good morning. >> good morning . >> good morning. >> good morning. >> right, nigel, let's kick off with the front of the mirror. should we? >> yes. i mean, this is this is a good one because it's about actually keeping people safe. >> a new and >> it's a new law, and it's called martyn's law , named called martyn's law, named after, one of the victims of the manchester arena bomb, which killed 22 back in 2017, and his

mother's been campaigning for the last five years to get this law , brought in. she suddenly law, brought in. she suddenly sort of revamped it because of what happened in moscow, which has been which was so, so horrific last week and the kind of thing she wants, which is actually it makes sense. counter counter—terror training for venue staff , risk analysis by venue staff, risk analysis by bosses, something that m15 could help with metal detectors when people go in and out. and certainly i mean things things like the training for venue staff, things really useful. i've just done some counter—terror training and you learn little things like, if you find a suspicious, a suspicious package , don't phone the police package, don't phone the police on the on your mobile within 15m on the on your mobile within15m of it. >> yeah, it almost seems obvious, but i didn't know that. >> but things like that could actually be useful. government are consulting on this consultation is just ending. so it looks like this will come in.

>> it's win win. it looks like this will come in. >> it's win win . this one actually. >> yeah it is. i mean you can take any politics out of it. i think this is sensible. this is the safety individuals . and the safety of individuals. and it's interesting you it's quite interesting when you say counter terrorism it's quite interesting when you say for ounter terrorism it's quite interesting when you say for venues,arrorism it's quite interesting when you say for venues, staff, m training for venues, staff, pansh training for venues, staff, parish councils have also been through this with hiring out of things like village halls. through this with hiring out of things like village halls . and i things like village halls. and i think that i probably took the view that that was not very necessary be for a village hall, but it is , of course it is. it's but it is, of course it is. it's very sensible. things like that are suspicious. package it could be in any small area, large area. and i think that's brilliant. i think if staff are trained in this then we're all going to benefit for the safety. >> yeah. >> yeah yeah. >> yeah yeah. >> you you can't on >> yeah yeah. >> yone you can't on >> yeah yeah. >> yone clare.)u can't on that one clare. >> the message is go easy on german beer. >> yes. you see the love didn't we love a bit of nanny state. oh yes. so this is the government warning anybody football fans travelling over to the euros this year that german beer is a little bit stronger than what you would find at home. so go

easy. and you know when you sort of think i'm sure that football fans or anybody really determined not to go easy. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> if you're out and you're on tour, >> if you're out and you're on tour , then you're going to have tour, then you're going to have a couple of drinks. and i think that everybody knows that german beer perhaps is a little bit stronger than stuff you have stronger than the stuff you have at home. that's the joy of having it. >> only >> the only thing is, when you look the details of it. there look at the details of it. there are beers, are some german beers, apparently, 1. apparently, that are 16 1. >> well, that's actually drinking a pint of wine or something. >> well, well, stronger than stronger than wine. yeah >> so on that on that front don't go for the 16% stuff. >> what exactly i mean i mean, i floor you i absolutely would, but i think that people should just be allowed to have what they like. >> and the government getting involved, like just with the nhs telling you not to eat an entire easter egg in one go. yeah. stop it. >> stop entire easter egg. i mean, i don't know if i could manage both mouthfuls. >> yeah, they're very tiny. tiny

i >> -- >> they're so small now, aren't they, nigel, christmas makes me laugh in the express, doctor who may outlive the bbc. well, considering , many hundreds considering he's, many hundreds of thousands of years old already, already it. already, he's already done it. >> according to the canon. yeah, yeah, already achieved that. >> well, this is russell t davies, who brought doctor who. doctor who back 20 years doctor who back to tv 20 years ago with the revival will be. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and now he says the time lord, it looks like the bbc will disappear before the time lord does. the problem really is money at the bbc. so what are you saying? is that he's not. he's going to have to go elsewhere with doctor who to make decent programmes. >> does he really think that? because, of course, the. and it's controversial in and of itself. but you know the doctor who franchise now paired up who franchise is now paired up with disney. >> right. >> yes that's right. >> yes that's right. >> and must be funding >> and disney must be funding part of it. >> they are. and so at the >> and they are. and so at the moment if he wasn't with if disney pulled out , he says, disney pulled out, he says, well, we'd have to make smaller sort programmes with the bbc sort of programmes with the bbc that wouldn't actually stop that he wouldn't actually stop

it. thinks now , it. but he thinks that now, you're going to end up seeing doctor on streaming services doctor who on streaming services . and this seems to be the problem that bbc is facing at the moment, there used to the moment, that there used to be brilliant at doing great drama is and now you can see how they're cutting corners and how things are getting cheap. i mean, one the one fabulous drama that came out a while ago was rs rogue heroes, which was beautifully acted , everything beautifully acted, everything about it was was great apart from the special effects. so when planes blew up, you could see the little balsa wood models and it let the whole thing down. and that was because they couldn't spend that extra bit of money, which you can see now on all the streaming services. they spend millions on making those things . things. >> right. things. >> but1t. things. >> but that's a model. the streaming service model is one that works. it means they can plough amounts into these plough huge amounts into these really quality dramas now. really high quality dramas now. >> i that's the way >> and i think that's the way that is going have to that the bbc is going to have to look it. and it's something look at it. and it's something called co—production. so it was

entered to have disney entered into to have disney bnng entered into to have disney bring some money they bring in some money so they could special effects could do the special effects properly. you back could do the special effects pr i mean, it's difficult. it's you need to think what it's going to be used for. and i think the bbc have made some massive errors in cutting things like local radio. so i'm a big, big fan of local radio, and i think they needed to have kept to their original model of this is what your tax payer wants, this is what you should fund and the bbc shouldn't do stuff that elsewhere does. >> basically. >> basically. >> lovely. thank much, >> lovely. thank you very much, both of you. >> let's look the weather. >> let's look at the weather. >> let's look at the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> morning. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office. the easter weekend is here and the weather looks

like slowly turning a little dner like slowly turning a little drier a little warmer. like slowly turning a little drier a little warmer . with drier and a little warmer. with many of us likely to have a fine day on sunday. far from fine out there today, although some of us starting off with a bit of sunshine, but showers already in some and the showers just some places and the showers just get going more widely from late morning into the early morning through into the early afternoon. thundery afternoon. heavy, even thundery showers a showers zipping through on a fairly breeze it won't showers zipping through on a fairljall breeze it won't showers zipping through on a fairljall day. reeze it won't showers zipping through on a fairljall day. bute it won't showers zipping through on a fairljall day. but when: won't showers zipping through on a fairljall day. but when the n't rain all day. but when the showers along, thunder showers come along, hail thunder is possible. temperatures is also possible. temperatures maybe just sneaking up a bit compared yesterday, but still compared to yesterday, but still feeling showers feeling cool when the showers hit. because of that brisk hit. and because of that brisk wind will continue blow. wind that will continue to blow. showers uk through showers across the uk through this and overnight, this evening and overnight, they should in many should tend to fade in many locations , but we'll keep some locations, but we'll keep some going. across the west coast of wales , southwest england and wales, southwest england and some continuing to push into parts scotland also, but many parts of scotland also, but many central and eastern parts of england turning and clear. england turning dry and clear. pretty chilly as well. temperatures well down into single to start saturday, single digits to start saturday, but we should start a bit but we should start with a bit of sunshine on saturday.

tomorrow morning, fine over the midlands and eastern england in particular and generally, although will still be although there will still be showers around tomorrow. not as many today . a better chance many as today. a better chance that most of tomorrow will be dry and bright, particularly across parts of southern england, could see more england, could see some more rain returning the southwest rain returning to the southwest later but a bit more in the later on, but a bit more in the way of sunshine . feeling a bit way of sunshine. feeling a bit warmer. for of us, warmer. and for many of us, sunday decent. t that warm sunday looks decent. t that warm feeling from boxt boilers feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news as

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in. >> us shareholders were quite happy to take the profits, but now the company is in trouble. they don't want to know. it's likely that either come farmers will end up footing the bill or taxpayers if the company has to be nationalised. in other words, all of us are bringing you more shortly . shortly. >> obscene cronyism sunak sparks an honours row after awarding one of the top tory donors gong. >> millions of people expected to travel today is the big easter getaway gets into full swing . swing. >> meanwhile, the west end celebrates the holy month of ramadan during easter weekend by displaying lights in the caphal >> ex—ministers warned state pension age could rise to 68 sooner than expected to pay for the triple lock. but is that really fair ? really fair? >> and in sport this morning, the newcastle player , banned for the newcastle player, banned for gambling, has been caught again and could face yet another ban.

the favourite should be the next liverpool manager is now much less and latest on less likely and the latest on dart sensation luke little . dart sensation luke little. >> it's another day of heavy showers this good friday, but as we go through the easter weekend it should turn a little drier and just a little bit warmer. join me later for a full forecast. >> morning to you . >> morning to you. >> morning to you. >> i'm stephen dixon and i'm ellie costello and this is breakfast on gb news. >> for those of you getting in touch over those ramadan celebrations, june says we have a huge banner over the council house in nottingham. that's a big one in old market square. nothing about easter, though. now that i would say isn't right . that isn't right. you shouldn't celebrate one and not the other. but what . i what i do

the other. but what. i what i do struggle with a little bit is a lot of you saying. i thought we were a christian country. we, which we traditionally were, but now how many people who are saying that are actually observing any sort of christian, remembrance or going to any good friday services or easter sunday services , or are you just buying services, or are you just buying easter eggs and having lamb on on sunday and not actually doing anything related to the death and resurrection, so that would be my you've got i think you've got to be a little bit careful. i don't have any issues with people celebrating ramadan. why should he? you multi—faith should he? you know, multi—faith is thing in many is a positive thing in many ways. and tolerance is a positive thing. i just don't see why easter is being ignored . why easter is being ignored. which is which is what worries me slightly, i'm just trying to work out how many, in this last census, how many people in this country are actually christian? identify as christian?

>> i think it was 30. >> i think it was 30. >> i think it's less than that might be. it is low. i'll get back to you on that one. i'm just looking at that, aid says i seem to have missed tfl's famous boards outside tube stations, declaring their love for christian easter. well, that sort of thing. you should mark it. i suppose you could it. i mean, i suppose you could argue shops are full of argue all the shops are full of eggs and chicks and all that sort thing, which we sort of sort of thing, which we sort of associate with easter. so the high streets are full of it in that sense , so is that just the that sense, so is that just the same as putting a few lights up in the west end ? in the west end? >> yeah, robert says if ramadan falls at the same time as easter, then it's easter. that should take precedence. >> can't we coexist a little bit? anyway, let us know what you think . you think. >> gb views at gb news. com on that story, or indeed any of the stories that we're talking about today. we're talking about a lot, aren't we? yes, we are, including this one which also have a view on thames water. >> dear me. michael gove has

said thames water bosses are a disgrace after the firm asked to increase bills by 40. increase customers bills by 40. and that's to plug a major funding gap. >> for years now we've seen the customers of thames water taken advantage of by successive management teams that have been taking out profits and not investing as they should have been. the answer is not to been. so the answer is not to hit consumers . the answer been. so the answer is not to hit consumers. the answer is hit the consumers. the answer is for the management team to look to their own approach and ask themselves they're in this themselves why they're in this difficult situation. and of course, the answer is because of serial mismanagement for which they must carry the can. >> well, the firm's bosses have admitted it could risk face the risk of emergency nationalisation as its cash crisis deepens. >> shareholders have refused to give the company half £1 billion of extra financing. they say that rescue plan is uninvestable i >> instead, shareholders want the regulator, ofwat, to increase customers bills by up

to 40% over the next five years. >> let's talk to our political correspondent katherine forster. it's a tough one, catherine, because it looks like the government is left either bailing out the company and shareholders by by national izing it or part nationalising it, or just let it run to the dogs. >> yes. and it very much looks like whatever happens, either the 15 million customers of thames water are going to have to pay 40% more by the end of the decade . ed, for a service the decade. ed, for a service that, frankly, is not very good. thames water top the league of the number of times that sewage was put out into , rivers last was put out into, rivers last yeah was put out into, rivers last year. so big bills for those people. millions of customers or ultimately, if it has to be nationalised, then we will all pay nationalised, then we will all pay the taxpayer yet again, will

have to come along and foot the bill. and it's a bit reminiscent, isn't it, of the financial crisis, because what we had then was the banks behaved badly. the water companies, as we know, not behaving well. more recently and they took risks. they took the profits. they were happy to take the profits. but when things went wrong lo and behold, it becomes the government's problem. because of course, these companies can't just cease trading. millions of people depend on them to get their water. so it's a it's a stand off. now the company has gone to ofwat, the regulator. they have got till the end of may to make a decision whether to allow bills to be increased. thames water are solvent currently until next year. the chancellor says he's keeping a very close eye on it, but it's pretty awful news. whichever way you look at it. and i think part of the

problem is, you know, when these companies were nationalised back in the 1980s, first of all, it made the conservative government a lot of money at the time. but also the theory was that, you know, private companies are dnven know, private companies are driven by profits. so they will be efficient. but what has happenedis be efficient. but what has happened is they've taken a lot of money in profits while failing to invest in the infrastructure that's needed. that's why we've got so much problems with sewage . and the problems with sewage. and the chris weston, the chief executive, has been saying that this is the price that customers have to pay for the investment in our infrastructure that's needed. but, you know, jacob rees—mogg , former cabinet rees—mogg, former cabinet minister, saying let the company go bankrupt, the shareholders will lose their money. but he says they took too much cash out . so they deserve no sympathy, no sympathy for the water company. but it looks like one way or another, either the taxpayers or thames water

customers are going to foot the bill. >> well, catherine, do you stay with us? we're just going to share this response from thames water, who have said, i'd like to reassure our customers that despite announcement, despite this announcement, it is business usual for thames business as usual for thames water. our 8000 staff remain committed to working with our partners in the supply chain to provide our services for the benefit of customers, benefit of our customers, communities and the environment. and catherine, whilst we've got you did want to talk to you about rishi sunak, who has sparked somewhat of an easter honours row, hasn't he? announcing a knighthood for one of the tory party's biggest donors and for tory mps, the timing of this is very interesting, isn't it? >> yes, it is quite an unusual to have an honours list. now it's reignited speculation. we know there's not going to be a general election in may, but speculation that there might be one in june or possibly july , one in june or possibly july, even though the government is still saying the autumn is the

plan. most likely dates, november the 14th or 21st. so let's see. but yes , a big row let's see. but yes, a big row because, alongside the awards to people like sunak, loyalist philip davis who becomes a sir, etc. yeah, there's been a knighthood for mohammed mansoor , knighthood for mohammed mansoor, who gave £5 million to the conservative party very recently . now, at that time, that was the biggest single donation to the biggest single donation to the party in over 20 years. that's since been overtaken, of course, by frank hester. remember the row just a few weeks ago about his comments? who gave 10 million? but, obviously labour and the lib dems are up in arms. richard tice of reform says, you know, it's crony ism at its worst. i think it's certainly not a good look. but of course , there's a

look. but of course, there's a general election coming. the conservative party are very happy to have money coming in to help them with that. but a lot of criticism today for the prime minister. >> okay, catherine, for now , >> okay, catherine, for now, thanks very much indeed. >> now tory mps are quitting politics as they find pressures of the job, the hostility on social media and death threats totally exhausting . totally exhausting. >> well, at least that's what dame andrea leadsom said to our political editor, christopher hope, on his latest podcast . hope, on his latest podcast. >> 63 tory mps have resigned so far, quitting ? will it go more far, quitting? will it go more than. no. not resign? no. they're standing down at the next election. that's a very different matter, christopher . different matter, christopher. the first sorry, chiding me the first. first planned election since 2015. so maybe expected yes or not. or perhaps an indictment of the party's polling ratings. i mean, would it be more than the 75 who went in 97, do you think? >> i mean, i think those standing down this time, it is a

function for many people of their time in office. you know, we've seen statistically we've already seen statistically your your lifespan your your sort of your lifespan as mp significantly as an mp is significantly shorter than it used to be. and the reason for that is, of course, the pressures of the job and of course, the hostility of social media, the death threats, the, you know, people genuinely find exhausting. find it find it exhausting. i find it exhausting. mean, even as a, exhausting. i mean, even as a, you know, lit uplands person you know, sun lit uplands person as am. yes. i wake up some as i am. yes. i wake up some days think, oh, really? days and think, oh, really? >> daily threats you? >> daily, daily threats to you? i yes, i mean, not not, i mean, yes, i mean, not not, you know, not sort of daily threats, but i've had death threats. >> i've had paper death threats with, you know, we know where you live sort of thing. i've had people at me outside people spitting at me outside parliament. pretty parliament. it's pretty revolting. and that revolting. yeah. and then that idiot the eu who just idiot in the eu hat who just screams abuse. i'm not even going to say his name. don't say it, chris. i won't , but you it, chris. i won't, but you know, he screams abuse all day long. naming just literally long. naming me just literally publicly. just disgusting . publicly. it's just disgusting. frankly, the way politicians are held in such contempt. so i'm not surprised people have had enough at all. and obviously

some of them are just fed up because they, you know, they they can see that , you know, they can see that, you know, their their polling situation isn't so obviously some of isn't good. so obviously some of that, but this is nothing like in with the expenses in 2010 with the expenses scandal a half of the scandal where a half of the conservatives, more than half i think people, and that think were new people, and that was my intake 2010. yes. and i think a lot of those people, you know, we've in politics for know, we've been in politics for 14 a lot us have had know, we've been in politics for 14 and)t us have had know, we've been in politics for 14 and as us have had know, we've been in politics for 14 and as fors have had know, we've been in politics for 14 and as for those! had know, we've been in politics for 14 and as for those who've enough. and as for those who've been even longer than that , been in even longer than that, many them are just saying no many of them are just saying no time call it a day. time to call it a day. >> yes, interesting. >> yes, interesting. >> these long form chats , aren't >> these long form chats, aren't they, about these issues you get under skin little bit more under the skin a little bit more as what's going on, maybe as to what's going on, maybe will help your views or will help change your views or or modify your views. if you understand people behind the understand the people behind the politics, which i think is quite interesting. yeah, i really like them. >> and christopher hope gets some good guests as some really good guests on it as well. so can get that well. so you can get that podcast wherever you usually get your the gb news your podcasts or the gb news website. there you go. website. yeah, there you go. >> friday, as you >> now it is good friday, as you should but just how

should know, but just how significant is it in modern britain ? why does it matter? britain? why does it matter? have you forgotten? i think a lot of people do forget actually in 2024. let's talk to nottingham university's chaplain, father david palmer, who joins us now. father, good to see you this morning. i mean , to see you this morning. i mean, we are marking today, aren't we? the crucifixion of christ. it's a hugely important day . a hugely important day. >> it is. and if i could just be so bold, i just picked up the figures from the last census as you didn't have them to hand, 46.2% of the population take christian and 37% take no religion, 6.5% ticked muslim . so religion, 6.5% ticked muslim. so just to have a background there, good friday, is part of what's called the easter triduum, which is a three day celebration. hence three days. tritium, starts last night with the celebration of maundy thursday, where the queen was giving out maundy money, which is the

commemoration of the last suppeh commemoration of the last supper. jesus instituting the eucharist. command to love one another. then it moves into good friday, where we come. they leave the upper room. jesus is taken, betrayed, crucified, and dies. and then it kind of finishes with the easter vigil on holy saturday, where we have celebrate the resurrection. so it's effectively one in, service, one liturgy spread over three days. and it's the most sacred time of the year for christians. >> do you think we've lost the real meaning of easter? has it become too commercialised? i think people think about this weekend now, and they think about their lamb roast, don't they? or their chocolate eggs? they don't actually about, they don't actually think about, you know, crucifixion of you know, the crucifixion of jesus his resurrection. jesus and his resurrection. >> i think it's certainly , >> i think it's certainly, people aren't as clear about easter as they are about christmas, for example. i mean, most people in the culture still know that christmas is about the birth of jesus. you'll still hear carols being sung in supermarkets, even, but but at

the same time, you mentioned easter eggs and lamb, but of course they come very much from the christian tradition, the easter eggs representing new easter eggs representing the new life, and of life, the resurrection, and of course, the last supper. course, lamb at the last supper. jesus the passover, which jesus shared the passover, which was he referred to was lamb, and he referred to himself as the lamb of god, who would die for the sins of the world. so even though people may have lost those connections , have lost those connections, they're very much there in they're still very much there in our celebration . so our cultural celebration. so that's something. >> yeah. i mean, it's as you say, it's such an important time for those who who hold a christian faith. and as you say, the i mean, the basis of it all is about loving one another. it's about forgiveness of sins and all these all these fundamental issues actually . fundamental issues actually. which do you think they're being lost in society ? we do seem to lost in society? we do seem to becoming more polarised, more angry, perhaps more vicious, less understanding . less understanding. >> i think so , especially the >> i think so, especially the area of forgiveness. forgiveness

is absolutely essential to function as a society. we have to be able to forgive each other, and we have a culture that increasingly does not allow forgiveness. you know, if you say you've something once wrong somewhere in your past, that's it. you know, you can be hounded out of your your career, your position, whatever , we can't position, whatever, we can't function as a society if we hold people completely to account for everything, every transgression, forever. with no redemption. christianity is exactly the opposite message that we all sin, we all fall short. we all make mistakes. but there is always a way back. and that's an essential message for a functioning of a healthy society , i think. >> how do we live moving forward 7 >> how do we live moving forward ? because i was just reminded because when i was at church on wednesday, the vicar reminded us of a quote she thinks it was, saint augustine who said, spread the gospel at all times and if necessary, use words. that's quite powerful, isn't it? >> yeah, it's actually usually

attributed to saint francis, although he apparently never actually said it, but that's irrelevant. the point. the point remains and is absolutely true. yeah. we need to spread the gospel, and we do need to use words because we do need to explain, you know, our faith . explain, you know, our faith. you why good friday you know why? why good friday is important absolutely , the important or but absolutely, the heart of it is to love god and to love our neighbour as ourselves. and jesus said, that is fundamental primary is the fundamental primary commandment, everything else commandment, and everything else is summed up in that command of love. god is love. >> father, just before we let you go. but i did want to ask you go. but i did want to ask you what you thought of the king's maundy thursday message yesterday, we almost yesterday, because we are almost out time, but it really did out of time, but it really did strike based on what you're strike me based on what you're talking about there. talked talking about there. he talked about didn't he? and about service, didn't he? and jesus washing feet of the jesus washing the feet of the disciples the service that disciples and the service that that gave them, and how that he gave to them, and how important is to serve and to important it is to serve and to extend the hand of friendship. >> absolutely. and the truth is, we find fulfilment in service . we find fulfilment in service. but converting, it's not how we expect it. but the truth is,

people do find fulfilment in serving and caring and loving for one another. so it's not just a sacrificial thing in one sense. it's who we're created to be we flourish as when be and who we flourish as when we choose that path of service . we choose that path of service. >> father, it's really good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed. >> have a great easter. god bless you. >> happy easter. oh, it's something it's nice to reflect on. it is nice because we, you know, we often forget . yeah. know, we often forget. yeah. what? it's what it's all about. >> and i was struck actually by the king's message. the reason why i wanted to ask that was, i listened to on the radio listened to it on the radio yesterday i thought, well, yesterday and i thought, well, that's year that's the first time this year so i'd actually heard so far i'd actually heard something had struck me the something that had struck me the real meaning easter. yeah. real meaning of easter. yeah. >> good. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> well, isn't it? yeah >> well, good, isn't it? yeah i thought you got the tone exactly right. here's a man deep right. here's a man of deep faith, he? right. here's a man of deep fait he he? right. here's a man of deep fait he is, he? right. here's a man of deep fait he is, asa? right. here's a man of deep fait he is, as was his at the >> he is, as was his at the coronation. yes as with his mother. >> yeah. yeah, they are right, we're going to sneak off and have a coffee whilst alex deakin bnngs have a coffee whilst alex deakin brings you the weather.

>> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> morning. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office. the easter weekend is here and the weather looks like slowly turning a little dner like slowly turning a little drier and a little warmer, with many of us likely to have a fine day on sunday. far from fine out there today, although some of us starting off with a bit of sunshine, but showers already in some places and the showers just get going more widely from late morning into early morning through into the early afternoon. even thundery afternoon. heavy even thundery showers zipping through on a fairly brisk breeze so it won't rain all day. but when the showers come along, hail, thunder is also possible. temperatures maybe just sneaking up compared to yesterday, up a bit compared to yesterday, but feeling when the but still feeling cool when the showers because of that showers hit. and because of that brisk continue to showers hit. and because of that brisk showers continue to showers hit. and because of that brisk showers acrosscontinue to showers hit. and because of that brisk showers across the inue to showers hit. and because of that brisk showers across the uk; to blow showers across the uk through this evening and overnight, they should tend to fade in many locations, but we'll keep some going across the

west coast of wales, southwest england and some continuing to push into parts of scotland also, but many central and eastern parts of england turning dry and clear. pretty chilly as well. temperatures well down into single digits to start saturday, but we should start with a bit of sunshine on saturday. tomorrow morning. fine over the midlands and eastern england particular, and england in particular, and generally, although there will still around still be showers around tomorrow. not as many as today. a better chance that most of tomorrow will be dry and bright, particularly across parts of southern england . could see some southern england. could see some more rain returning the more rain returning to the southwest later but a bit southwest later on, but a bit more the way of sunshine. more in the way of sunshine. feeling warmer. and for feeling a bit warmer. and for many us, sunday looks decent. many of us, sunday looks decent. >> t warm feeling inside >> t that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> well well well there you go. oh, >> well well well there you go. oh, there you go. that was quick. >> very very nice. thanks, alex. now it's the final day to see how you could win our massive spnng how you could win our massive spring giveaway . with gadgets, a

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welcome back. the time is 8:25. now the state. what are you laughing at? >> what are you laughing? oh, deah >> what are you laughing? oh, dear. just because we're talking about pensions, do you ever think about your pension, just the fact i probably can't afford a very good one. >> of course you can. >> well. i'm panicked. >> well. i'm panicked. >> well, you've got loads of time . time. >> i've got time. but then if you live longer, i want i don't i want to live in luxury.

>> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so i need lots of money in that pension pot. >> you'll lots of millions. >> you'll need lots of millions. >> you'll need lots of millions. >> i need millions and >> no, i need millions and trillions. the state trillions. now, the state pension age could to 68. pension age could rise to 68. even sooner than originally planned. to pay for the triple lock. that's a warning from ex—ministers. >> yes. the former tory mp, lord willetts says that precedent and evidence. so far shows that it really needs to be sped up. so is it fair? >> well, joining us now is pensions consultant hilary salt and political commentator with young voices uk, alex petropoulos. very good to see you both this morning . hilary, you both this morning. hilary, let's start with you. do you think that we should raise the pension age? >> i don't, it's very easy to have kind of knee jerk reactions to some of the challenges we face. and i think pensions is one of those areas where everybody needs to be able to plan for the long term, and so change things very quickly , i change things very quickly, i think is very unhelpful. government is actually committed to give a ten year notice period for changes in state pension

age. and as you say, you know, the state pension age is actually already scheduled to rise 68. if you were to bring rise to 68. if you were to bring that forward, it wouldn't make any change. you know, today or tomorrow in terms of what the government needs to pay out to support pensioners. and it's support pensioners. and so it's not going to solve some of the issues that people think are the problems facing today. problems facing us today. >> what think, alex? >> what do you think, alex? >> what do you think, alex? >> well, i think that you're right. that something needs to be done, but it's not necessarily about what needs to be done today. it's about what needs be done over the next needs to be done over the next ten, years. because the way ten, 20 years. because the way things keep throwing things look, we keep throwing more into the more and more money into the pension system. if we're keeping the lock, we keep the triple lock, if we keep funnelling money into people who are on pensions, it's are already on pensions, it's just i don't just unsustainable. and i don't see way which we keep the see any way in which we keep the current system. we things current system. we keep things as sustainable without raising the pension age. it's a bad situation to be in, but the people that will be affected by raising the state pension age are people who have voted in a

government that called for the triple lock. so it's sort of having your cake and eating it, right? >> oh, hilary . >> oh, hilary. >> oh, hilary. >> so there's two principles behind the points you made there. i think . one is that this there. i think. one is that this idea that the people of working age support all the people of pension age . now, that kind of pension age. now, that kind of assumes that everybody of working age works and nobody above pension age works . excuse above pension age works. excuse me. neither of those are true, actually. you know, lots of people in their 50s and 60s are economically inactive. you know, one solution to some of the challenges we're facing is to grow the productive economy so that employ those people that we can employ those people in good, well paid jobs. they can pay more taxes, and that will support both the triple lock and the basic state pension . the other assumption that you're making, . the other assumption that you're making , is that the only you're making, is that the only dependents in a population are those over over pension age. what you tend to find is that older societies tend to have

fewer younger people. and if you look at the overall dependency ratio , that's the number of old ratio, that's the number of old and young people that we need to support . actually, that doesn't support. actually, that doesn't change quite as much because we have fewer . those are both the have fewer. those are both the people on welfare and people who call on welfare and health care, and both of those if you if you take both of those populations together, the change isn't very much. >> what do you make of that? alex. >> that's a nice argument, but it only works in the short tum. so yes, in the short tum we have fewer younger people and more older people. and so things balance out . but what that means balance out. but what that means is and 20 years, the is over ten and 20 years, the problem just gets worse and worse, because fewer younger people mean that you get this sort pyramid, people mean that you get this sort then pyramid, people mean that you get this sort then things pyramid, people mean that you get this sort then things plooking and then things start looking really bad. if look at really bad. if you look at places like south korea, you look those places with this look like those places with this demographic over the demographic collapses. over the longer periods of time, things get a lot worse. but i agree with the point about growth. i find it hard to take a point about growth when it's being pensioners who have essentially sabotaged the country's growth over the ten years and

over the last ten years and saying no i want to grow. saying no, i don't want to grow. i want money for me. i just i just want money for me. i just want focus on helping this want to focus on helping this one specific group when so many other in the country other groups in the country needed needed support. needed help, needed support. child record highs child poverty is at record highs in 20 years. that's in the last 20 years. that's horrible . and yet somehow we're horrible. and yet somehow we're throwing more and more money to pensioners. we're sticking with the lock, we're sticking the triple lock, we're sticking with are just with these systems that are just helping this one group in the country that have sabotaged the country's in country's growth by voting in for policies. for governments and policies. >> , of course, not everyone >> well, of course, not everyone within that group votes for the same political party. but it comes down to the argument and you hear a lot. and perhaps you hear it a lot. and perhaps you'd appreciate it . you hear it a lot. and perhaps you'd appreciate it. i you hear it a lot. and perhaps you'd appreciate it . i know you hear it a lot. and perhaps you'd appreciate it. i know this sounds i know this sounds really patronising , alex, and forgive patronising, alex, and forgive me, but when you've, you know, when you've paid into the system for 40 or 50 years, then perhaps, you know, your attitude changes and say, well, i've put money in, i've supported the generation that came before me. now it's my turn. >> yeah, i agree, and i

understand the sentiment. i just think that we all have to understand as a country, things are going to get worse before they better and order for they get better and in order for that happen, they have to get that to happen, they have to get worse for everyone. and no one group say, i want to left group can say, i want to be left out. don't to be touched out. i don't want to be touched by sort of period bad by this sort of period of bad times before we can actually start again, before start growing again, before things better. i think things can get better. i think we have to acknowledge collectively that collectively as a country that everyone has to chip in and acknowledge fact that acknowledge the fact that standards of living might have to everyone. and we to lower for everyone. and we can't you this one group can't say you this one group will be safe in that you, this one group will be able to carry one group will be able to carry on living your lives and essentially sacrifice the prosperity of future generations just want to keep just because you want to keep your quality of life for a few more years . more years. >> okay, alex, hillary , thank >> okay, alex, hillary, thank you both. well, you can come back, hillary, if you if you can do it in 15 seconds, it's all yours. >> i would just say i'm not i'm not sure it's helpful to pick generations against each other. you know, the people of the younger generations are are our children and grandchildren. and actually, think lots

actually, i think we need lots more internet solidarity. and, you know, that's to you know, that's the way to resolve a lot of these issues. >> okay. well, it's a nice note to end on. thank you both very much indeed. and you know, i know what most of you at home will be thinking. yeah >> on write it down for us and let us know gb views at gb news. com >> yeah, i do think in terms of state pension it can't be around for much longer. it's got to be a 2030 years. you've got to be phasing it out. i think it's becoming unsustainable i think which it problem are, i don't know how else. i don't know how they can continue it. >> no. well the last budget did seem to indicate, didn't it, that the government wants to break that link between national insurance pensions. insurance and state pensions. so let you think. send let us know what you think. send in your views and do stay with us as well, because paul coyte is going to be here shortly and he's heading he's heading towards pension before most towards pension age before most of us. >> yeah. so get here very quickly. >> yes.

>> time for the sport this morning. paul's here. good morning. paul's here. good morning . good morning. morning. good morning. >> he always used to be. the easter weekend was when there was loads going on. you get the boat race and then you get the fa cup semi—final and the grand national often always used to come at the same time. whereas we've the boat race we've got the boat race tomorrow, can't, tomorrow, which is on. i can't, i back my excitement i can't hold back my excitement about boat race. bet you about the boat race. i bet you can't. i really can't, especially with the state of that as you've got that water as well. you've got to careful. wet yes, the to be careful. wet yes, the grand is in two weeks grand national is in two weeks and cup semi—final is in and the fa cup semi—final is in three weeks, so it's not. i kind of like it when they it all together. >> but said that, there's >> but having said that, there's still going on. still lots going on. >> there is a lot going on. shall we talk about sandro? sandro sandro tonali, newcastle. you really you know, it's not a it really is good story. sandro

is not a good story. sandro tonali is a fine footballer. the italian footballer played for ac milan and moved over to newcastle. he found newcastle. now he was found guilty of betting charges of gambling matches . this was gambling on matches. this was overin gambling on matches. this was over in italy and there was a ban for ten months that was set, which actually turned to become a worldwide ban. so it wasn't just playing in italy, so it affected him playing for newcastle. but the latest thing is that now he's been charged by the actually doing it the fa for actually doing it here then. now it points here since then. now it points in one direction doesn't it, that that's, that's a gambling problem. that is that certainly has got to be. >> you might need a bit of might need a bit of help. >> well this is and it sounds >> well this is it and it sounds like it's. does the ban help or is it someone that actually needs help that maybe he needs counselling in this situation? it's someone that actually needs help , not just it's someone that actually needs help, not just a ban it's someone that actually needs help , not just a ban away from help, not just a ban away from football. can the fa provide both? can provide. both? i think they can provide. i think there's probably a way to surely there still to go, but surely there still has be a ban in place because has to be a ban in place because it's allowed . you can't be it's not allowed. you can't be doing it. it does. it's a bit doing it. so it does. it's a bit of a nasty story, and someone

like paul merson, who's been through that we're speaking through that and we're speaking about ivan toney saying, you know, aren't helping. know, these bans aren't helping. these need help because these people need help because gambling of gambling does go on. but of course, when it comes to professional sport, you've got to completely separate to keep them completely separate because insider because then we can have insider dealing, etc. etc. so it's not a nice story, but we'll have to see what happens there and whether the are going to whether the fia are going to charge him. >> xabi alonso, is >> yeah. okay, xabi alonso, is he is he going be heading to he is he going to be heading to liverpool ? because i mean it'd liverpool? because i mean it'd be the team wouldn't he. >> i think he would. and think >> i think he would. and i think he think there's still he might. i think there's still a very good chance there's denials at the moment. a very good chance there's denials at the moment . okay. denials at the moment. okay. he's doing extremely well at ellie's favourite german team by leverkusen, who have done extremely well. ten points clear, ironically, of your favourite is bayern munich. so they're ten points above them. so that's looking at the moment. whereas it very successful that he's going to do well at bayer leverkusen. so if win the leverkusen. so if they win the bundesliga he obviously his stock everybody wants stock goes up. everybody wants him. he played for bayern munich, played liverpool . munich, he played for liverpool. so with jurgen klopp going, it

seems that he would be the perfect but there's talk perfect guy. but there's talk that he's saying, well actually you know what, i'd like to stay with bayer leverkusen, but that's someone that's saying, i think, what are going to think, what are you going to give yeah cards right. give me? yeah his cards right. what going to give me. what are you going to give me. you turn down a big job you don't turn down a big job like bayern munich or especially liverpool. so i still don't think that's the water, think that's dead in the water, although people say that is. although people say that it is. yeah although people say that it is. yea paul, although people say that it is. yeapaul, hate although people say that it is. yea paul, hate to tell you i'm >> paul, i hate to tell you i'm deadin >> paul, i hate to tell you i'm dead in the water. of dead in the water. we're out of time, but it's been time, as are you. but it's been a joy. honestly ellie, that was just so harsh the way you did that. >> oh, you're finished here. that's it. that's the end. >> you're out as would say. >> get out. i will have a lovely easter. and you don't have. yes, happy easter too much. >> we'll see. you working >> we'll see. are you working bank monday? bank holiday monday? >> i am. to you >> of course i am. to see you then. i'll see you there. roped me in for that one as well. yeah. >> now still to come. we're going to be talking about a woman who went to extreme lengths to get her earring back. we'll you where it was in we'll tell you where it was in just a moment. so

843. let's see what's in the papers, then. this morning, with our senior political commentator nigel nelson and former government adviser claire pearsall. good morning to you both . what's the star got, claire? >> oh, do we do we want to go with the kids escaping the kids alive. yeah. so this is this is quite interesting. so italy are taking children into care whose fathers are mafia bosses in order to try and get them away from the mafia life, to let them know that there is a different way of living and to get them away from the sort of don corleone type. yeah, influences on their life. and actually they have seen they're taken off to live in sort of secret locations, and they have seen a number of mothers who have then given up on their husband to go

and follow their kids and want a separate life away from it all, which sounds positive in one sense, but forcibly withdrawing children is problematic in another way, isn't it? i think it is, but i, i suppose that you have to have some kind of intervention if you're looking at quite serious criminal activity. >> kwasi nostra . >> kwasi nostra. >> kwasi nostra. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> and i think if you're looking at the level of sort of serious criminality that children are born into, if they don't know any different, then they're just going to follow along in those footsteps. them out footsteps. so to take them out of say there is another of that and say there is another way your life, you way you can live your life, you can do these things, it's not a bad experiment to do, especially the mothers as well . the mothers away as well. >> yeah, well, the thing that seems to be, i mean, that's the most positive thing because you're then breaking up the families a bit. but it seems families a bit. but but it seems like they're taking the children without mother. like they're taking the children witiand mother. like they're taking the children witiand moth mothers joining later. >> that does what. that's what it yes. yeah. it sounds like. yes. yeah. >> i don't know. i'm a bit i can see the sense of it, but it also leaves me a little bit uncomfortable.

>> i'm the sort of >> i'm not sure the sort of practicalities of it. this was 150 children, so it's a small sort of look into it. but. and 30 mothers out of these 150, it's gang, isn't it. yeah, it's one gang, isn't it. yeah, yeah, it's a one way of looking at nigel, what do you >> yeah, nigel, what do you think of baby banksy? >> well , this extraordinary. >> well, this is extraordinary. this is the national this is from the national records office of scotland, who've gone through all the baby names are coming up. so names that are coming up. so banksy is one of them. alloy de—man alloy jihad makes an appearance too . appearance too. >> how can you call a baby jihad or demon? how can it? because there are there are bans on somewhere. >> what's well, what's going to happen when they go to school for a start, but jihad would be a bit of a problem if you were shouting after him. yeah yeah. you get arrested for doing something like that. the boys names that come up, which you also wouldn't want to have at school. one simply boy. boy, no, that can't be legal. why wouldn't it be legal? well, it's cruel. >> well that's crazy. yes, it is horrible. but there are some

there are. >> i mean, they can stop you from having. you can't call a child satan, can you? for example. that's that's not. >> yeah. well, in which case then with then you'll be okay with demigod, another name demigod, which is another name for the, for the boy children. >> demigod . dixon. >> demigod. dixon. >> demigod. dixon. >> yeah. he's got to say, rigabad doesn't that. >> or are you going to have halal for girls? it's costly. pasty la or . halal for girls? it's costly. pasty la or. none. >> i think you mean patsy. >> i think you mean patsy. >> no, i mean pasty. was it? yeah it wasn't a pasty. >> it was pasty. >> it was pasty. >> it was in as in as in pasty. >> as in pasty. >> as in pasty. >> i think it was pasty. >> i think it was pasty. >> pasty or pale. >> pasty or pale. >> who knows? >> who knows? >> oh, i see that's neither a good. strikes me as cruel to children. it's cruel. there should be rules against this. >> but on the plus side that there are, on with the recent films that have come out, that chilean after chilean murphy from oppenheimer, that's killian killian tested this killian murphy. we tested this we we've got chilean . we we've got chilean. >> killian was irish. >> killian was irish. >> we put it through the through

the google. >> oh the hard k it's killian okay. >> never trust killian murphy . >> never trust killian murphy. >> never trust killian murphy. >> killian murphy. >> killian murphy. >> and margot after margot robbie for barbie. >> oh i do like the name margot. >> oh i do like the name margot. >> yeah. margot is a nice name. >> yeah. margot is a nice name. >> i just what are my grandchildren's call? >> margot? oh, yes. >> margot? oh, yes. >> but come on. names. >> but come on. names. >> we're thinking margot >> we're not thinking margot robbie, we're thinking robbie, are we? we're thinking margot . margot from. >> thinking margot. good >> i'm thinking margot. good life. ledbetter. life. yeah. margot ledbetter. margot ledbetter. yeah, absolutely. is it ? i had a yeah. absolutely. is it? i had a yeah. >> i'm with margot robbie. >> i'm with margot robbie. >> maybe my child. i did have a rule. it was the playground to prime minister test. >> that's a very good one. >> that's a very good one. >> can i can i yell it across a playground? and can he stand at the dispatch box? >> yes. not if you call demi god. >> there's another one. >> there's another one. >> i've heard. i've heard a third one on that list. tom harwood taught me it. i have to ask him. >> what's that? >> what's that? >> it's playground. prime minister and then there's a third one that he said. >> so you've heard third >> oh, so you've heard a third one, you know what it

is? >> no, but i'm going to talk to tom and get back to you. >> yeah. text him and we'll add that our, to our checklist. that to our, to our checklist. now, we've got to get to this one because i'm. >> intrigued, >> i'm just intrigued, someone went to extreme lengths, according to the star, to retrieve earring. what? retrieve an earring. from what? >> from an emu, a pile of poop. >> from an emu, a pile of poop. >> oh, so lady had to search through wheelbarrow poo? through a wheelbarrow of poo? >> for a silver earring, >> oh, no. for a silver earring, because apparently was because apparently she was ambush by the large bird called cha—cha . it's an animal cha—cha. it's an animal sanctuary in malmesbury and wiltshire, so she had to then search through. >> oh, look at the state of it. >> oh, look at the state of it. >> there. >> there. >> i would have left it there. >> i would have left it there. >> she couldn't find it. she went through the entire wheelbarrow of poo, didn't find it, find it on the it, but did find it on the ground a couple of days later. >> no. did she work there? then? she there. she must have worked there. she kept going back. >> assume so. it doesn't >> well, i assume so. it doesn't state whether she was just a visitor or whether she worked there. but i mean, that's that's quite something for an earring to go through. >> and it's not like it's a massive diamond earring. i was thinking not worth

thinking that it's not worth a shiny and worth a fortune. >> now, it's certainly not. >> now, it's certainly not. >> i mean, it may have sentimental value once you once you found it, just put it back. >> yeah, well, we want to put that back in your ear, but it was actually it was, it was just more the that been more the case that she'd been ambushed which ambushed by an emu, which just made laugh. ambushed by an emu, which just ma yeah laugh. ambushed by an emu, which just ma yeah . laugh. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> big bird cha—cha was. >> big bird cha—cha was. >> well, well, well done to us. she's ten of ten she's determined. ten out of ten for wouldn't for determination. i wouldn't bother for that. i just i'm bother for that. ijust i'm afraid i'd have to let that one go. >> yeah, i'll be buying a new pair, clare, let's talk about fish and chips, shall we? because lots of people are going to be eating fish today. it's good friday. to be eating fish today. it's goc it friday. to be eating fish today. it's goc it is?iay. to be eating fish today. it's goc it is? yeah. fish on friday, >> it is? yeah. fish on friday, which good which is the usual for good friday. apparently by friday. but apparently by eating, fish, eat more than one portion of fish a week is for good your health. and i think we all know that. and people don't eat quite enough fish. it's not fish and chips. this is things like mackerel or tuna , salmon, like mackerel or tuna, salmon, shellfish and diets rich in

these sources of protein tend to make you a lot more healthy. >> so if you batter it and deep fry, it doesn't count. >> you're going to say, i'm not sure the chippy chips along with it, which is going to be terribly healthy but very tasty. >> fried batter. >> or the fried batter. those things sort but things seem to sort of, but again, very, tasty . again, very, very tasty. >> you can't beat some fish and chips. >> so boiled fish is the answer. if we all want to save the nhs money. >> yeah. and oily fish. oily fish, it's good. >> it's oily fish and that's fine. i mean fish is quite expensive. also, a lot of people don't particularly like it, i like fish, i eat fish quite a lot, prawns, things like that. but my son won't touch them. yeah. doesn't like, look at them. doesn't like the texture of them. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it is one of those things. but it can do some real good for your look at your health. if you look at mediterranean diets things mediterranean diets and things like is high in like that, which is high in fish, especially those oily fishes, going to i'm fishes, then it's going to i'm not that it's going not convinced that it's going to save nhs, up to £600 million save the nhs, up to £600 million a year. i think that that's

quite a tall order. >> might be a bit more than just some vegetarian, but i wouldn't eat fish even if i was a meat eater. >> really ? >> really? >> really? >> no, no, i don't like it. just the smell of it really turns me. yeah, but sometimes they're the smell of it really turns me. yea smelly. sometimes they're the smell of it really turns me. yea smelly. somydad es they're the smell of it really turns me. yea smelly. somydad is they're the smell of it really turns me. yea smelly. somydad is the (�*re not smelly. but my dad is the same. so my mum brother same. so my mum and my brother love seafood. dad will not love seafood. my dad will not can't touch it. so i've inherited that from him i just can't. wow i adore fish. >> me too. yeah yeah yeah. but my mum was the same. >> she didn't like the smell and wouldn't wouldn't touch it. she'd maybe have some cod every now again. but that was now and again. but. but that was it. smell of it. does she just the smell of it. does she just the smell of it her off. it turned her off. >> you're thinking like kippers or no i'm not. >> no i'm not. >> no i'm not. >> no. any fish remotely >> no. any any fish remotely fishy just a lovely fishy smells just a lovely little white fish. even when i had bit of seaweed. little white fish. even when i had that bit of seaweed. little white fish. even when i had that thet of seaweed. little white fish. even when i had that the seaweed, ed. little white fish. even when i had that the seaweed, just and that even the seaweed, just that sea smell is salty. -—— —— ’ sea smell. oh >> sea smell. oh >> sea smell. oh >> now, nigel, at last your time has come. >> they've named a storm after me . it's absolutely wonderful, me. it's absolutely wonderful, storm nelson. >> it's a solid name . >> it's a solid name. >> it's a solid name. >> it's a solid name. >> it is. it just. yeah, but i i'm not sure we're actually going to welcome it. it's going

to bring a lot of snow, sleet, and plenty of wind. so that's me. plenty of wind. oh nigel, you've taken my joke there. >> oh , beaten. >> oh, beaten. >> oh, beaten. >> so when are we expecting nelson? >> oh, it's on his way now. yes, it started in wales, hasn't it? i think claire's been monitoring the weather for the last. >> yes, there's been snow days across exmoor dartmoor and across exmoor and dartmoor and in and up into the in plymouth and up into the southern part of wales. but also it's really, really windy yesterday. >> yeah, it was awful last night i >> -- >> awful. emma >> awful. the trains out. >> awful. the trains out. >> windy in london. i mean london was actually i haven't known it like that for ages. where we are was we're out in the sticks i mean there it was very windy. but then i thought when i get get into the capital, it'll be okay. but it wasn't. no, it was bad last night. >> and obviously we've got the great easter getaway, so it's the worst possible time . was it the worst possible time. was it 16 million cars on the road tomorrow? >> yeah . >> oh yeah. >> oh yeah. >> and i think people start today well, don't they. today as well, don't they. they do getting you've got do by getting off. you've got all are going to be

all the roads are going to be packed. of the train packed. a lot of the train services have closed down. many are already. >> always >> well they always do. >> well they always do. >> i mean, know, it's the >> i mean, you know, it's the total gridlock of everybody getting of getting away. yeah. but some of us work all the overhead us have to work all the overhead wires down in the wind. wires will be down in the wind. >> everything >> yeah. everything >> yeah. everything >> stay at home. have an easter egg, nigel in the express. this one. nice picture of, the queen giving out the maundy money. >> yes, i mean that obviously with king charles, still going through his cancer treatment , he through his cancer treatment, he couldn't do it. he will go to the to the traditional sunday service, he says. but yes, it was camilla standing in, i think that that in the royal family at the moment, it's sort of, all hands to the pumps really. while both kate and the king are aren't they doing a good job? >> and actually, when you think we've been talking lot about we've been talking a lot about the on william having the pressures on william having to together, to hold things together, the pressures queen, pressures on the queen, actually, . actually, yeah. >> with her husband ill given in a she came from that a sense she never came from that background. at least background. i mean, at least with like, charles, with with someone like, charles, he's grown up with it. he's

actually he's that he's brought up to do those very things. she's learning all this from from , from a fairly sort of, from, from a fairly sort of, standing start. and she is doing a fantastic job. yeah >> a very best of british, i think it is. >> and it's that sense of duty, which is what you were talking about, with the father who was on a sense of duty, and she is filled that role. but i do find it really strange when anybody says, oh, the queen was at church service, and i still have the of our late queen. the image of our late queen. i have to sort of check yourself sometimes . have to sort of check yourself sometimes. it's a have to sort of check yourself sometimes . it's a really, really sometimes. it's a really, really strange phenomenon. >> queen camilla is >> it'll take queen camilla is doing a very, very good job of this. >> she is right, nigel. clare, it's been a joy. thank you very much indeed. >> a look at the >> let's take a look at the weather for you . weather for you. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on gb news. >> morning. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office. the easter weekend is here and the weather looks

like slowly turning a little dner like slowly turning a little drier and a little warmer, with many of us likely to have a fine day on sunday. far from fine out there today, although some of us starting off with a bit of sunshine, but showers already in some places and the showers just get widely from late get going more widely from late morning through into the early afternoon. even thundery afternoon. heavy even thundery showers zipping through on a fairly brisk breeze. so it won't rain all day. but when the showers come along, hail, thunder is also possible. temperatures sneaking thunder is also possible. terayeratures sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bittures sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared to sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared to yesterday, ng up a bit compared to yesterday, but still feeling cool when the showers hit. and because of that brisk wind that continue to brisk wind that will continue to blow across the uk blow showers across the uk through this evening and overnight, they should tend to fade in many locations, but we'll keep some going across the west coast of wales, southwest england and some continuing to push into parts of scotland also. but many central and eastern parts of england turning dry pretty chilly as dry and clear. pretty chilly as well. temperatures well down into single digits to start saturday, but we should start with of sunshine on

with a bit of sunshine on saturday. tomorrow morning, fine. over the midlands and eastern england in particular and there and generally, although there will be showers around will still be showers around tomorrow. not as many as today. a better chance that most of tomorrow will be dry and bright, particularly across parts of southern england, could see some more rain returning to the southwest later on, but a bit more in the way of sunshine. feeling warmer. and feeling a bit warmer. and for many sunday decent. many of us, sunday looks decent. t feeling inside from t that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> away . >> away. >> away. >> good morning to you. it's 9:00 on good friday, the 29th of march. today, the levelling up secretary, michael gove, hits out at thames water after bosses asked to raise bills by 40% to avoid nationalisation , obscene

avoid nationalisation, obscene cronyism, sunak sparks an honours row after awarding one of the top tory donors a gong. the west end celebrates the holy month of ramadan, but of course, that crosses over with easter weekend. is that controversial ? weekend. is that controversial? displaying ramadan lights over easter in the capital, ex—ministers warned state pension age could rise to 68 to pay pension age could rise to 68 to pay for the triple lock. >> we're asking is that fair? >> we're asking is that fair? >> it's another day of heavy showers this good friday, but as we go through the easter weekend, it should turn a little dner weekend, it should turn a little drier and just a little bit warmer. join me later for a full forecast morning to you. >> i'm stephen dixon and i'm ellie costello and this is breakfast on gb news. loads on pension age. >> oh, that's what you're going. >> oh, that's what you're going.

>> getting in touch. yeah, i was easter. oh were you. >> yeah. but there's more on pension age actually. >> so let's go, kevin says it's funny how you go on about pensions. it's £200 a week. you don't mention the unemployed who pay don't mention the unemployed who pay nothing in. well, no , but pay nothing in. well, no, but they can't pay anything. and if they're unemployed. but people who are able to work should work. martin says it may be okay. retiring at a great age if you sit behind a desk for a living. but if you do a hard, physical job, you probably won't reach your retirement age. and that's a really point , that's a really valid point, actually. people who do manual labouh actually. people who do manual labour, blue collar work, or however you want to phrase it, they're not going to be able to keep working till they're 68, 70, 75 or whatever it might go up to in the years to come . up to in the years to come. that's that's a really good point. yeah. >> that is a really good point. and jennifer makes a good one too, saying today's pensioners were told state pension were told the state pension would live on when would be enough to live on when they pension age. now we

they reached pension age. now we know just whilst know it just isn't. whilst a private pension scheme is for the benefit of the individual, they also huge source of investment in trade and industry funding. the economy . if these funding. the economy. if these pensioners had kept their money under the mattress, the country would even today. would be even worse off. today. >> says it's fine for the >> peter says it's fine for the younger people to say the rise in the age of retirement, but when you reach your 60s, some of us find it hard to do certain things. so this needs to be taken into consideration. it does look that young people should have a voice and should be heard and all the rest of it, but when it is, it's that old argument of saying, well, i've worked all i've worked for 50, 60 years. in some cases . and, 60 years. in some cases. and, you know, now's my time. yeah. >> and you've worked hard your whole life. i sort of understand that argument. >> i find that very hard to disagree yes. but anyway, disagree with. yes. but anyway, keep thoughts keep your thoughts coming through. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> michael gove dubbed through. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> waterael gove dubbed through. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> water bossese dubbed through. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> water bosses a dubbed through. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> water bosses a disgrace ad thames water bosses a disgrace after the firm asked to increase customers bills by 40% to plug a

major funding gap . major funding gap. >> for years now, we've seen the customers of thames water taken advantage of by successive management teams that have been taking out profits and not investing as they should have been. so the answer is not to hit the consumers. the answer is for the management team to look to their own approach and ask themselves why they're in this difficult situation . and of difficult situation. and of course, the answer is because of serial mismanagement for which they must carry the can. >> well, the firm's bosses have admitted it could face the risk of emergency nationalisation as the crisis deepens. the cash crisis deepens. >> well, shareholders have refused to give the company half £1 billion of extra financing. describing the rescue plan as uninvestable. >> well, shareholders want the regulator to increase customers bills by up to 40% over the next five years as well. >> we are now joined by the chair of the labour party, anneliese dodds. really good to

see this morning . anneliese see you this morning. anneliese how would the labour party deal with water scandal? with the thames water scandal? well >> good morning. well, we'd have a very different approach to that taken by the government. and i have to say i just saw that clip that you played of michael gove talking about this, where he said this problem had been and been building for years and years . well, of course we've had years. well, of course we've had the conservatives in government for 14 years and it definitely has been building for 14 years because they've watered down the regulator so that companies like thames water could get incredibly highly indebted. and they haven't done what labour has been calling for, which is for there to be a ban on bonuses for there to be a ban on bonuses for polluting water company bosses and to make sure there's automatic monitoring of these outflows and that there are automatic fines and if necessary , criminal penalties as well. so i find this government response of almost suggesting they have only just found out this is an issue . pretty extraordinary. issue. pretty extraordinary. labour would have a very

different approach to this, just as i said, because we need to be cleaning up our rivers and our beaches, and it shouldn't be the payers of bills who are stung as a result of this governmental failure . failure. >> but who should sort this out then now, because it's one thing to look, to look back on what's built up. it's another thing to say, well, this is we solve say, well, this is how we solve it. and in terms of thames water, you look at water, would you look at renationalising and taking 51, which of course would mean giving taxpayers money to shareholders ears, or would you just let it run its course, go bankrupt and let someone else sort it out ? sort it out? >> so there are talks that are ongoing about exactly what should happen with that company. it's right those talks happen. of course, we'll be looking at them very closely. and as i understand it, there are those different options that are on the table. but i certainly don't think the government should be sitting back now. we really need

to change the rules around this. we need to ensure that as i set out before, you do not have value leaching out through huge bonuses being paid to bosses even at the same time, while their companies are heavily polluting our rivers, while they're not actually delivering they're not actually delivering the services that people expect. so labour would ban those bonuses right now. we would make sure also, as i said, that there was automatic monitoring of these sewage outflows into our rivers, so there could be really substantial changes that could happen right now. i mean, we actually managed to make sure there was a vote on some of those changes not so long ago in parliament. unfortunately, the conservatives to support conservatives refused to support those measures, and i think they really should be looking again at this because of the huge problems have in the problems that we have got in the water industry. >> wanted you about >> i wanted to ask you about your colleague angela rayner, who's on the front page many who's on the front page of many of this morning. of the papers this morning. she's under pressure to reveal the about those the truth about those controversial property dealings

and also comes as greater manchester police are reassessing its decision not to investigate allegations that she gave false information on official documents . are you official documents. are you confident that your colleague hasn't committed electoral or tax fraud ? tax fraud? >> so i have got confidence in angela rayner. so has keir starmer. i'm very proud that angela rayner is the deputy leader of the labour party . i leader of the labour party. i think she's been doing an incredible job. in fact, yesterday she was setting out our plans to make sure that we really do see genuinely communities levelling up, that we've local economic plans, we've got local economic plans, that we have those longer time financial settlements for local governments. so i think that angela has been doing a very good job. and i also know she's someone who does the right thing, i'm sure that will be thing, and i'm sure that will be the here well . the case here as well. >> and know, look, it's very >> and i know, look, it's very unfair in a way when someone, you know, when someone's done nothing wrong, as angela rayner claims to, then say, well, i've

still got to provide documentation into the public domain to prove that that seems unfair. right. but it's what you sign up for. in a sense, being a politician, especially a politician, especially a politician wanting to get elected into government. it would be easier then, wouldn't it, if that legal advice she's been given saying everything is fine and above board . if she fine and above board. if she published that and then it puts it to bed . it to bed. >> well, this is of course advice that's been provided on the understanding that it would be confidential . so that's not be confidential. so that's not something that is routinely shared publicly, angela obviously has been very upfront about the fact that, yes, she did purchase a council house. now, i'm speaking to you from a former council house. i didn't purchase it myself. it was actually two owners before me who purchased it. there will be many people watching this programme now purchased programme now who purchased their council house, who live on council estates. i do not think that's something to be ashamed of. quite frankly, think of. and quite frankly, i think lots people would be saying,

lots of people would be saying, well, have we got well, hang on, why have we got this focus from the this huge focus from the conservatives on the finances of one individual when our family finances overall, people up and down the country are really under pressure when we're not seeing any action on the cost of living, why don't we have a conservative government talking about think it's about those issues? i think it's because have plan. because they don't have a plan. but labour have plan in but labour does have a plan in those areas. >> what did make the >> what did you make of the easter honours that was easter honours list that was published night? published last night? >> well, think i probably had >> well, i think i probably had the response as many the same response as many members of the public are responsive of astonishment. you know, you either would feel that perhaps rishi sunak is so arrogant that he doesn't mind any more what the public think. or perhaps he's demob happy. he believes that he's on the way out. either way , i think there's out. either way, i think there's a huge amount of concern about the fact that there seems to be an almost automatic pass now under conservative gives, under the conservative gives, and particularly the individual, mr mansour , who was last year, mr mansour, who was last year, last january, the biggest ever

donor to the conservatives, £5 million at that stage, the biggest individual donation that had been given then seeming to have that automatic pass through to receiving an honour under rishi sunak. i think if anything, it demonstrates yet again his weakness that he's focused on internal party issues all of the time , rather than on all of the time, rather than on the needs of our country . the needs of our country. >> yeah, but this was the issue with with this particular individual. and yes, he has been a big donor to the conservative party, but his appointment has not been blocked by the appointments commission , has it, appointments commission, has it, and yet, of course , the cash for and yet, of course, the cash for honours scandal, which happened in what, 2006, two thousand and seven under tony blair. now that was a great big hoo ha. but of course, those appointments by tony blair were ultimately blocked by the appointments committee . committee. >> absolutely. and labour has learned from that. those lessons have been learned. we think it's really important that we have a

system that is beyond public questioning and reproach. and i'm afraid what rishi sunak has done here is not beyond that pubuc done here is not beyond that public questioning and reproach. and it does look like, as i said , now, there is that automatic pass through. but of course, this is in the context of so many scandals about who is supporting the conservative party. to an enormous extent. we've had all those, of course, situations with frank hester , situations with frank hester, that huge tory donor as well with the conservatives refusing to hand back the money that he gave them even after it was shown that he had made those appalling racist and sexist remarks about a labour mp. so, you know, clearly there's a big conservative problem here. we've got to clean up politics. that's why labour said we'd have an independent integrity and ethics commission. i think the public looking at this is really fed up. >> okay, we've got to leave it there. we're out of time. sadly. anneliese dodds as always, it's to good talk to you. thanks very much indeed. >> now we're joined by our

political correspondent, katherine you katherine forster. what did you make what anneliese had make of what anneliese dodds had to catherine to say? catherine >> yes. interesting. on water, wasn't it? she was saying ban bonuses, automatic monitoring of sewage spills, etc. worth saying, of course, that although water was nationalised by margaret thatcher, labour was in power from 1997 to 200 2010 and didn't reverse any of this ehheh >> also worth saying of course, that when sir keir starmer became labour leader , he was became labour leader, he was doing so, promising to do many of the things that jeremy corbyn had said he would do, including nationalisation of rail and water, they have rowed back on that. now the labour party . but, that. now the labour party. but, i think one of the fundamental problems is the fact that now over 70% of the british english water industry is under foreign ownership. so in the case of

thames water, it's largely owned by canadian pension funds, by abu dhabi and china . and so abu dhabi and china. and so these foreign owners don't care particularly about the fact that british people need the infrastructure, need the investment. but very happy to cream off the profits . cream off the profits. >> okay, catherine, thank you very much indeed . good to see very much indeed. good to see you this morning. we have had a response from thames water from their boss, actually, who says, i'd like to reassure our customers that despite this announcement, is business as announcement, it is business as usual thames water. our 8000 usual for thames water. our 8000 staff remain committed to working with our partners in the supply chain to provide our services for the benefit of our customers, communities and the environment . customers, communities and the environment. some customers, communities and the environment . some people customers, communities and the environment. some people may disagree with that. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> i think it's a it's a tough one and i so we've been talking about it a lot this morning. and we didn't get a clear answer, actually, from anneliese dodds as what you would do the

as to what you would do in the immediate term you nationalise? >> i it's a difficult >> no, i think it's a difficult one. no, we didn't get a clear answer. not. >> i thought you wouldn't get an executive decision there, or on behalf of labour party or behalf of the labour party or would it would you let would you let it would you let it bankrupt then . it go bankrupt and then. >> but that would mean a private investor would to in investor would have to come in and over. you'd sell it and take it over. you'd sell it for knockdown price. issue for a knockdown price. the issue with nationalisation in nigel nelson calling that nelson was calling for that earlier is that that would earlier on is that that would give government control what it also means is the government would have to buy out some of the shareholders. so those shareholders who've been , you shareholders who've been, you know, making a profit would then get government money, our money for the government to buy in, which is all gets a bit controversial, doesn't it? it does a bit, i think it's fair to say, isn't it, on the views most of you believe that nationalisation is the answer. >> yeah. would that fair to >> yeah. would that be fair to say yes. >> i think on views today, >> i think based on views today, that's seem think. that's what you seem to think. >> keep them coming in on >> but do keep them coming in on that of the other stories

that or any of the other stories talking today. views talking about today. gb views at gb com. talking about today. gb views at gb now com. talking about today. gb views at gb now sirom. talking about today. gb views at gb now sir keir starmer has had >> now sir keir starmer has had to drop student ideas when to drop his student ideas when he leader of labour he became leader of the labour party. that's party. that's i think that's quite a damning statement actually. student ideas until he was labour leader anyway. but he's had drop them to prove he's had to drop them to prove he's had to drop them to prove he can be prime minister. >> well, what close ally >> well, that's what close ally jenny chapman had to say to our political christopher political editor, christopher hope, podcast . hope, on his latest podcast. >> but, these the flip flopping, now that keir starmer has criticised for which you can do in opposition, is that a strength, do you think i it strength, do you think i see it as starting out with prospectus? >> when you are a brand new, straight into, you know, a leader of the opposition, and then you see, you've seen keir evolve from that, taking over the burning skip of a party of jeremy to corbyn now being a credible candidate for prime minister, junked his ideas. >> he got into got power that got the power, didn't he? when he supporting leadership he was supporting as leadership candidate. tuition candidate. you know, the tuition fees. abolishing universal candidate. you know, the tuition fees. adefendinaniversal candidate. you know, the tuition fees. adefendinanivfreeman credit, defending eu freeman

movement . movement. >> and he's dropped those because he wants to be prime minister. you know, this is a guy that's serious about his politics. he is not there as we've discussed, we've just discussed, to lead a protest movement . his job is to protest movement. his job is to save the british public trust in me. i will look after your future. your pensions , your future. your pensions, your mortgages, your kids futures. these are serious , big things these are serious, big things that we want to be trusted with. you cannot have someone who just goes around saying things. you know they maybe they've know that they maybe they've believed when they were a student, or maybe , you know, are student, or maybe, you know, are things that are popular within the labour party. you've got to have a credible offer for the whole country and that's the journey that keir, there journey that keir, i say there has journey. i completely has been a journey. i completely up about that. but up front about that. yeah. but i'm really pleased have seen i'm really pleased to have seen it the polls. it working in the polls. >> mean, i've been struck by >> i mean, i've been struck by how security been in how on security he's been in lockstep with the government. and i think that was really important because, the nadir for many people joined jeremy corbyn as leader was over salisbury

when he questioned whether it was russia behind the poisoning and anyone involved in whitehall and anyone involved in whitehall and security in this country would say that was moment of would say that was a moment of which everyone had took breath which everyone had took a breath and can this guy and thought this, can this guy be minister? seems be prime minister? and it seems that even even on and it's been hard israel and gaza, he has hard on israel and gaza, he has stayed with government and stayed with the government and hasn't of hasn't really gone ahead of where on the big where they are on the big foreign matters. foreign policy matters. yes, i think that's been by a think that's been noticed by a lot of people. >> i think been important >> i think that's been important because you show that because you need to show that you be responsible and you you can be responsible and you are to play politics are not going to play politics with something ukraine. you with something like ukraine. you know , you are not going to play know, you are not going to play games with this. there is a national interest which is higher and above a much more important than your party political interest . and that is political interest. and that is one of the reasons that keir starmer has gained the respect of the british public for that , of the british public for that, and i think that's it's what he believes as well. you know, his background as a chief prosecutor, he understands how criminal gangs work, what terrorism is really all about and how you prevent it. and i

think that that international perspective that he has on those issues that are about keeping people safe. yeah, means that , people safe. yeah, means that, you know, he isn't someone who thinks, right, what's in it for me? where's the red line between me? where's the red line between me and the tories on this issue? it's what right thing to it's what is the right thing to do . do. >> i just want to bring you some breaking news on that attack . on breaking news on that attack. on a a very large knife, a train with a very large knife, a train with a very large knife, a zombie knife, something. we talked about it a lot yesterday. we're getting word from the police , from british transport police, from british transport police that a 19 year old man has now been charged with attempted murder and possession of an offensive weapon in relation to that stabbing beckenham junction on march the 27th. he's called rakeem thomas and he's going to appear at wimbledon magistrates court we'll keep you up to date with that. >> of course, now it's the final day to see how you could win our massive spring giveaway. £12,345 in cash and lots of other

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>> now, of course, it is easter. this weekend we'll be tucking into easter eggs. we'll spare a thought for this local shop in orkney. it's all turned out very well. they've raised over £3,000 for charity. but they did accidentally easter accidentally order more easter eggs entire island's population. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> the owner of sinclair general store, dan daffyd, made the blunder because instead of ordering 80 chocolate eggs, he ordered 80 cases. and he joins us now. how many in a case? >> dan and nine in a case. >> all right. oh, well, that works out 700 and something. >> is it ? >> is it? >> is it? >> yeah, yeah, a few eggs, 720 eggs >> and there's how many people on the island , roughly 500. on the island, roughly 500. >> all right. okay. we see the issue. >> yeah, yeah, it's a bit of an

issue there. so. so you decided what to cut your losses and. and what? donate them all for charity? >> yeah, something like that . so >> yeah, something like that. so we were trying to come up with some inventive ways to, to try and shift them on. so, one of those ways that seemed to have caught the imagination of the pubuc caught the imagination of the public giveaway public was, 100 egg giveaway with, proceeds going to with, with all proceeds going to the rnli , so it's a brilliant the rnli, so it's a brilliant idea. it's the community really got behind you then. >> yeah, yeah, the community, locally and further afield. it's been. yeah, it's been quite, you know, shocking about how far it's travelled and. yeah. how well it's done. >> why did you choose the rnli? that means a lot, doesn't it, to you and the community there? >> yeah, absolutely. yeah. so, firstly , our long serving shop firstly, our long serving shop manager, barbara moody, she's the sandy branch president of the sandy branch president of the rnli, so they do annual fundraisers in order to raise money and just generally being a kind of small island community, the rnli is something that's very close to our heart.

>> oh, i bet, and i'll be there'll be plenty of volunteers and things, i imagine, on the island as well, because it's all entirely volunteer run, isn't it? the amazing life it? the rnli, the amazing life working, save life work working, save life saving work that do . that they do. >> yeah, absolutely. yeah. so, yeah, it's just great to be able to try and try and help their cause. so yeah , initially we cause. so yeah, initially we wanted to try and get to £200, but , things have kind of picked but, things have kind of picked up pace and that kind of moved to 300, 400, we've currently sold 3500 tickets for the raffle, and the guys over at nestle have said they'll double whatever we raise. so we're now on a big push to try and get to 10,000. double to 20,000. so wow . this is kind of where we're at and what we're looking for help with right now. well good luck with right now. well good luck with it dan. >> we think it's an excellent idea. >> oh happy easter to you. yeah happy easter. >> well done guys. >> well done guys. >> great stuff. great stuff. right. from us, up right. that's it from us, up next though, it's britain's newsroom. soon. newsroom. see you soon. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> morning. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office. the easter weekend is here, and the weather looks like slowly turning a little dner like slowly turning a little drier and a little warmer, with many of us likely to have a fine day on sunday. far from fine out there today, although some of us starting off with a bit of sunshine, but showers already in some places and the showers just get going more widely from late morning through into the early afternoon. heavy even thundery showers a showers zipping through on a fairly so it won't fairly brisk breeze. so it won't rain all day. but when the showers come along, hail, thunder is also possible. temperatures just sneaking thunder is also possible. terayeratures just sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bittures just sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared just sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared tojust sneaking thunder is also possible. tera bit compared to yesterday, ng up a bit compared to yesterday, but still feeling cool when the showers and because of that showers hit. and because of that brisk wind that will continue to blow. the uk blow. showers across the uk through evening and through this evening and overnight, should tend to overnight, they should tend to fade in many locations, but we'll keep some going across the west coast of wales, southwest

england and some continuing to push into parts of scotland also. but many central and eastern parts of england turning dry pretty chilly as dry and clear. pretty chilly as well. temperatures well down into to start into single digits to start saturday day, but we should start with a bit of sunshine on saturday. tomorrow morning. fine. over the midlands and eastern england in particular and generally, although there will showers around will still be showers around tomorrow. not as many as today. a that most of a better chance that most of tomorrow will be dry and bright, particularly across parts of southern england. could see some more to the more rain returning to the southwest on, but a bit southwest later on, but a bit more in the sunshine. more in the way of sunshine. feeling warmer and for feeling a bit warmer and for many us, sunday looks decent. many of us, sunday looks decent. t that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on

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