r , vince cable. he's back svensson, vince cable. he's back on the show. christine hamilton, she's on the show for the second time. youtube sensation paul davis on the show for the first time. and beatles biographer philip norman. but first, let's go the . news. go to the. news. >> very good evening from the gb newsroom. just gone 7:00. i'm sam francis and we start with news from northern ireland, where the new leader of the democratic unionist party has tonight condemned what he calls conspiracy theories cheap conspiracy theories and cheap political point scoring following criminal charges brought against sir jeffrey donaldson. the departure of the dup's former leader and longest serving mp in northern ireland came after he was accused of serious historical sexual offences. a 57 year old woman has also been charged with aiding and abetting additional offences in relation to that same police investigation . well, same police investigation. well, gavin robinson was unanimously appointed interim leader appointed as the interim leader of the dup after sir jeffrey's

shock resignation today. he says the charges against donaldson have been devastating. >> i think it's caused tremendous shock, not just for myself personally or my colleagues within the dup, but for the community right across northern ireland. it came as a great shock, but we are a party and individuals that believe in justice. we have faith in our criminal justice system, and so in the coming days and months, i think it is important that none of us say anything or act in any way that would seek to prejudice what is now an ongoing criminal investigation . investigation. >> in other news, one of the conservative party's major donors has received a knighthood as part of a controversial honours list from rishi sunak. mohamed mansour gave £5 million to the tories last year and is a senior treasurer for the party. he was knighted for what's described as services to business, to charity and politics. its other recipients

include mp philip davies, who's also a former presenter on this network, and the timing of the list is unusual, though, coming while parliament is in recess and on the eve of the easter bank holiday weekend , police are bank holiday weekend, police are appealing for help in their search for a man suspected of raping two women in london. the attacks took place four years apart, first in westminster in 2018, followed by another incident in shoreditch in 2022. those offences were being investigated as separate crimes, but forensic work has now helped to draw a link between the two. detectives say it's highly likely the suspect has also committed other attacks. the metropolitan police has released this e—fit image you can see there if you're watching on television , and they're asking television, and they're asking anyone who may have information to police or call crime to contact police or call crime stoppers . and finally, before stoppers. and finally, before heading back to lee, soldiers and officers in the british army are now allowed to grow beards after a century old rule has been overturned. the changes

come after an official review of the military's policy the military's appearance policy . under the new rules, beards and moustaches must be groomed , and moustaches must be groomed, kept within specific length kept within a specific length and checks . the and have routine checks. the defence secretary, grant shapps, has praised the shift in culture, that it's culture, saying that it's important the military keeps up with standards . those are with modern standards. those are the headlines. i'll be back at 8:00. in the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . now though, it's back to. lee. >> welcome to lee anderson's real world. and tonight we're going to be talking about donald trump and what it will mean for the the world and the rest of the world and britain gets elected this britain if he gets elected this year. britain if he gets elected this year . joining for the first time year. joining for the first time on the show is greg svenson. you're the overseas republican chairman of republicans overseas i >> -- >> that's okay. that's mouthful. >> and back has left in the corner. we've got sir vince cable, who is the former leader

of liberal democrats. so this yean of liberal democrats. so this year, greg, you know, it's a big time for americans, your native country. there's going to be an election in i sort of think that donald trump's going to win. i think most people already think trump's going to win. what will it mean for the uk the rest it mean for the uk and the rest of world? and in particular ukraine? >> well, look like he's >> well, it does look like he's going to win. if the election was tomorrow, he surely would win. and i think it's good news for the uk. it's good news for the and probably good news for the uk. it's good news for the ukraine nd probably good news for the uk. it's good news for the ukraine because bly good news for the uk. it's good news for the ukraine because ily good news for the uk. it's good news for the ukraine because i don'td news for ukraine because i don't think president trump is as opposed to it as, as his opponents try to make it out, you know, make it look like so he's just a he's a transactional president. he'll want to see, like most people in america want to see the border in the us, the us—mexico border. they want to see that taken care of. and they're quite related. they're both national security issues. so you can't really segregate the two. granted there, you know, thousands of miles apart. but i think that americans and especially people going

especially congress people going back to their districts, they can't go back and expect to be re—elected if they've sent 61. >> trump got first elected. he made a big song and dance about controlling the borders. i think he sort of did that. but since he's left office, it's got worse. woi'se. >> worse. >> surely ? absolutely. biden >> surely? absolutely. biden just flipped a switch on day one in january of 21. he he basically , executed executive basically, executed executive orders to reverse all of the trump policies that were working. it was the lowest illegal immigration in 45 years. and so we went from 500,000 illegal migrants a year to 2.5 million under biden. it's an utter disaster. it's a humanitarian disaster, too. so i think , you know, trump will want think, you know, trump will want to see that fixed. and i think most people in congress are happy to send the 60 billion to ukraine, but they need to have that border fixed first. >> so , vince, will the world be >> so, vince, will the world be a better donald trump a better place if donald trump gets elected november this year? >> well, certainly not. and but i do agree he may well be elected. i think the biggest

disaster is potentially ukraine. i disaster is potentially ukraine. | , disaster is potentially ukraine. i , trump's supporters are i mean, trump's supporters are blocking help when the ukrainians desperately need it. and, you know, tens of thousands of ukrainians are being killed, you know, defending their country, defending freedom. trump's made it very clear he wants a quick settlement with the russians on the russians terms. that be terms. now, that would be an unmitigated disaster. i think. secondly, threat to secondly, the threat to impose tariffs, not just on countries that they might see as adversaries like china, but on the western world as well, gumming up the world trading system, creating the kind of protectionist warfare we had in the 1930s. that would be a disaster. and i think the mere fact that somebody could come into power, having refused to accept election, accept a democratic election, a bad , challenging the whole bad loser, challenging the whole bafis bad loser, challenging the whole basis of democratic election, will do terrible damage to the credibility of our values in the west . west. >> so greg is vince is he misguided or is he seems to be fearful of a trump administration , we heard all administration, we heard all this many years ago when he

first got elected, that it's going to be a third world war, nuclear wars. and it never happened. >> and anything, his foreign >> and if anything, his foreign policy were some of policy successes were some of the of his of his the greatest of his of his administration. the economy administration. yes. the economy was much and i think was so much better. and i think people that. they people missed that. they they might donald and might not miss donald trump and the rhetoric , but the unfiltered rhetoric, but they do miss 2019 or 2020. >> so vince is right, with the amount of people that's getting in, getting killed in ukraine, it's tens thousands, it's tens of thousands, literally . we need to put a stop literally. we need to put a stop to that, don't we? >> that's and i think president trump would do a much betterjob >> that's and i think president trlthat.vould do a much betterjob >> that's and i think president trlthat. right.io a much betterjob >> that's and i think president trlthat. right. well,1uch betterjob >> that's and i think president trlthat. right. well, i|ch betterjob >> that's and i think president trlthat. right. well, i mean terjob >> that's and i think president trlthat. right. well, i mean ,erjob of that. right. well, i mean, again, he's transactional. so i think for and force think he'll go in for and force putin negotiate somehow. i putin to negotiate somehow. i don't doesn't really don't know. he doesn't really dictate that answer. but but what speaking of national what but speaking of national security, i mean, the uk and europe in general will be better off with trump because he he would actually build up the military, whereas biden in a very difficult time, he's cut defence spending . it's so defence spending. it's so counterintuitive. you know, you have all many nato countries

that are increasing the amount of money they spend , whereas the of money they spend, whereas the percentage of gdp anyway. so you've from in many ways, you've gone from in many ways, thanks to trump, you've gone from five countries meeting the 2% target 11. that's going to 2% target to 11. that's going to 18 this year. whereas the us defence budget is being cut in real terms by 3. that's a disaster. and i think that that if president trump is back in office, you'll see a stronger american military, which is good for the uk or or our allies, as well as good for europe. >> so, vince, if you as an american citizen right now living in living in the states and we've got this election coming up, would you vote for biden why would you vote for biden? >> well, i would vote for him, perhaps reluctantly. i mean, i think another younger, forward looking democratic candidate would be much more appealing, but i would certainly vote for him, i do agree on the specific point that, you know, other nato

countries have got to get to the mark. you know, germany, france, italy have got to pay their dues. i do agree with that. but but threatening that you'd be perfectly happy to invite the russians in. i mean, it may have been intended as a joke, but it was taken seriously and completely undermines the sense that have to have a security that you have to have a security alliance. and what biden has been very good at, whatever the failings, he's been very good at, is building up a sense that you're working as an alliance with other countries with the same values. >> it wasn't very good with the afghanistan, was he? >> but actually , trump had >> no, but actually, trump had negotiated with the taliban and had created the conditions under which america remaining was impossible. i mean, basically, biden had to carry the can for what his predecessor had done. >> right. you want to come back on that? >> yeah. i mean, it's funny in retrospect, i mean, utter failure, obviously from from biden. yes. president trump wanted to have an exit from afghanistan, as the senior afghanistan, but as the senior military officials in the in the dod are, they recommended, 2500

to 5000 troops remain. that was the that was the policy of mike pompeo and donald trump when pompeo and donald trump when pompeo was secretary of state. and they actually recommended that to biden and he ignored their recommendation, pulled everybody out, looked at the disaster that happened. so his numbers went down because of afghanistan, but they haven't recovered. it's been recovered. so he's it's been a complete failure of an administration, vince. >> looking likely that >> it's looking likely that later this year we're going to have trump in charge of america and running and possibly starmer running running the uk as a prime minister. is that going to be a good relationship, do you think, well, i think starmer, a well, i think starmer, i'm not a member of the labour party, but i seems be i think it seems to be a professional , low key kind of professional, low key kind of quy- professional, low key kind of guy. not very exciting, but businesslike and will try to make the relationship work. and they may make it very difficult. i mean, if you remember, you know, trump, he dated theresa may. i mean, she was, you know, trying to be workmanlike and build a relationship with america. trump humiliated america. and trump humiliated her. and i hope that he doesn't

do same with the next do the same with the next british prime minister. >> wasn't trump humiliated when it that his big it came to london that his big balloon the thames? it came to london that his big bali»on the thames? it came to london that his big ball think the thames? it came to london that his big ball think he the thames? it came to london that his big ball think he obviouslythames? it came to london that his big ball think he obviously doesn't’ >> i think he obviously doesn't poll well in the united kingdom, but don't about that, greg. >> i mean, it probably doesn't poll well in in westminster, in westminster , but that's that's westminster, but that's that's my woods he'd my neck of the woods and he'd have lots of support. have some big, lots of support. >> absolutely. and it's very similar doesn't similar in america. he doesn't do the salons of do well in the salons of georgetown upper east georgetown or the upper east side but does side of manhattan, but he does really rest the really well in the rest of the country, inside of coasts. country, inside of the coasts. so i think if you look back, so but i think if you look back, he actually i think he got along much with may much better with theresa may than suggesting. than vince is suggesting. and when biden took over, you had the wouldn't call it the immediate i wouldn't call it insults, but he surely didn't reach out to the uk like trump had. you know, he was very pro eu pro ireland. he he had very uncomfortable relationships . and uncomfortable relationships. and with our allies right, right out of the gates, the saudis, the uk, israel, it's and it's continued. so for someone who who is always saying, you know ,

who is always saying, you know, in 2020 america is back, adults back in the room, he's really not done well with with us allies. and yet he's really helped iran make a hell of a lot more money in in selling oil. he's put 60 billion and just released another 10 billion of, of money to fund the iran's funding of their, of their shia satellites . and, and that's satellites. and, and that's working for iran. so it's just it's odd that his foreign policy has been such a disaster , given has been such a disaster, given that he he campaigned on america's back and american leadership will be back. it's been quite the opposite. so i think you'll see a much a much better national security situation. >> i'll give the final word to vince. policy has been a disaster. >> i'll just say one small positive thing in favour of trump. he's been saying some fairly sensible things about the takeover tiktok. know, takeover of tiktok. you know, going grain and going against the grain and trying to diffuse some of this complete paranoia about chinese companies, which, of course, we also have here. so that's one

for him. >> i mean, it's a fascinating discussion, as always , thanks discussion, as always, thanks for coming on the show, greg. thanks, once again for thanks, vince, once again for coming on show. look, do not coming on the show. look, do not go coming up next, go away because coming up next, we've day with we've got back in the day with beatles philip . norman. >> on patrick christys tonight, nine till 11 pm, a tv exclusive with former immigration minister robert jenrick, and he is scathing about rishi sunak. would you try to talk about legal immigration? and it was just batted away. yes. and sexual assaults are taking place in migrant hotels . in migrant hotels. >> i did see some very concerning incidents , for concerning incidents, for example, at the asylum hotels, individuals committing sexual assault. >> also find out why queers for palestine want us to boycott your revision. and is ramadan more popular than easter? don't miss patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. be there

i >> welcome back to lee anderson's real world today. and i'm delighted to be joined by philip norman, who's a biographer. you've written books on the beatles, buddy holly. well, john lennon and you've got a book out at the moment. what's that called ? that called? >> george harrison, the reluctant beatle. yeah. so that makes three out of four. >> why was he reluctant? >> why was he reluctant? >> he wasn't a reluctant musician because he taught himself to play the guitar at a very young age. 14. yeah. so he looked still little looked like, still like a little kid when he was playing with john paul. but he the john and paul. but he hated the beatlemania , the screaming that beatlemania, the screaming that covered up his painstakingly crafted . and particularly crafted solos. and particularly in when was in america when there was no security the stage would be security and the stage would be invaded by young women actually hanging around his neck while he tried play. tried to play. >> talk about america, >> so you talk about america, i think first time they went think the first time they went was, was 64, 65? was, what was it, 64, 65? february 64th. they went on, february 64th. and they went on, was sullivan show? was it the ed sullivan show? yeah ed sullivan show, yeah the ed sullivan show, watched by 72 million people. >> wow. there was no crime in

new throughout the duration >> wow. there was no crime in netheir throughout the duration >> wow. there was no crime in netheir appearance t the duration >> wow. there was no crime in netheir appearance on1e duration of their appearance on ed sullivan. one single hubcap sullivan. not one single hubcap was in the five boroughs was stolen in the five boroughs of. george had a temperature of 104 because he had a strep throat, he still had play i >> -- >> yeah, it's incredible. that is let's go a little bit further back in time from 1964, we spoke before philip. i'm a massive fan of people like, buddy holly, chuck berry, elvis, and i guess the beatles. they took a lot of inspiration, everly brothers as well as one for the harmonies, etc. they took a lot of inspiration and chuck chuck it all together. they did, but they added little bit of liverpool added a little bit of liverpool charm and irreverence charm and wit and irreverence and then sold it back to america, brilliant . america, which was brilliant. >> but no british act had ever done america before, and done that in america before, and america went really crazy over them , in the way it had never them, in the way it had never happened before with the british act. so particularly as they were selling and having their own music sold back to by own music sold back to them by these kids. >> beatles were great, >> see, the beatles were great, the great. i the stones were great. but i always the beatles. have always blame the beatles. have got take some responsibility got to take some responsibility for over to

for the monkeys coming over to the in the 60s. well the to the uk in the 60s. well the to the uk in the 60s. well the monkeys were a they were a knockoff american beatles , but knockoff american beatles, but actually they did at the end learn to play their instruments. >> they couldn't the >> they couldn't at the beginning. used have beginning. they used to have musicians standing in the wings, and used to but in and they used to mime. but in the did learn to play, the end they did learn to play, and were actually quite and they were actually quite good. you wrote all these books, >> so you wrote all these books, philip, of my musical philip, about some of my musical heroes well. did you heroes as well. when did you actually first meet the beatles? >> on what turned out >> i met them on what turned out to be their last british tour in 1965, in newcastle on tyne. i got into their dressing room, actually. yeah, and talked to john and, paul and ringo, not george. george was a bit sort of standoffish and never thought i'd be writing his biography. one day. yeah, i was even allowed to hold paul's bass guitar . wow. then allowed to hold paul's bass guitar. wow. then i was allowed to hold paul's bass guitar . wow. then i was thrown guitar. wow. then i was thrown out by their roadie, neil aspinall. probably at a secret signal from them, which they had to rid people . i thought to get rid of people. i thought they they loved me because they seemed friendly, know , seemed so friendly, you know, but they didn't. >> so when you're writing these books your pop books about sort of your pop heroes, you get close heroes, how do you get close to

them get details and them to get all the details and them to get all the details and the facts right? >> well, it sort accumulates >> well, it sort of accumulates over a book over time. i did a book biography of beatles. yeah, biography of the beatles. yeah, in when people in the early 80s when people said, you're mad do the said, you're mad to do the beatles. everyone knows everything people didn't know. of course, people didn't know. yeah. then went to do yeah. and then i went on to do the beatles getting the individual beatles getting more data more knowledge and more data as i john lennon. i went. yeah john lennon. >> so obviously you went solo in the 70, 71, something like that , the 70, 71, something like that, and a brilliant music career after the beatles. i think some of his later songs were absolutely, phenomenal and obviously sad that i think it was 1980 when he got killed. >> well, that was it. i'd finished my book, shout, which is the biography of the beatles. yeah. and i thought i might be getting across to they all. getting across to see they all. they in denial. getting across to see they all. they in denial . they they were all in denial. they had terrible time latterly had a terrible time latterly as the beatles. thought the beatles. yeah, i thought i still get to meet john. still might get to meet john. and news came he'd and then the news came that he'd been assassinated, was been assassinated, which was unbelievable been assassinated, which was untyeah.|ble been assassinated, which was untyeah. okay a big hero of the >> yeah. okay a big hero of the beatles was buddy holly, and obviously he died in 1959, 58, something like that. nine, massive, musical hero of mine.

we spoke earlier about the apartment tapes in new york when he was just there strumming his guhan he was just there strumming his guitar, and he wrote a biography on on him as well. >> i did well, in fact, he was very personal to me because my father actually ran a rock and roll dance at the end of a seaside pier, and i took up the guitar like a lot of people, like lennon and mccartney and because buddy holly seemed to be teaching play his teaching you how to play his songs, you could play his songs. you chords . not you recognise the chords. not with elvis, not with scotty moore, buddy, because moore, but with buddy, because he did play lead guitar as well as sing. >> he did, and think it was >> he did, and i think it was only, what, 2122 when he actually died? >> it 22. and it's strange >> it was 22. and it's strange that you think as the that you think of him as the rock the of rock and rock and the father of rock and roll, actually he only 22. >> yeah, and so gifted and dnven >> yeah, and so gifted and driven some of the songs he driven and some of the songs he wrote, they still they stand the test of time, they? test of time, don't they? >> sound as fresh as >> they still sound as fresh as even >> they still sound as fresh as ever. were ever. yeah, they were very adventurous double adventurous using double tracking electronic effects, you know, but it was a very, very short. and his career ended rather quickly in america . yeah,

rather quickly in america. yeah, but carried on in britain because he taught people like lennon. mccartney were like his pupils. >> yeah. you've obviously got >> yeah. so you've obviously got a passion for music, and now from the 50s and 60s, what about 70s music? i see on my list? you're a bit of an elton john fan as well. >> not really elton john, because used think he because i used to think he he pred because i used to think he he ripped off. really. him ripped everyone off. really. him and lyricist . and bernie taupin, his lyricist. yeah, but when i met bernie, he said, yeah, of course we rip people off. but they didn't rip off thought they off the people i thought they had. didn't rip off had. yeah, they didn't rip off space ripped off space oddity. they, ripped off another called pearls another band called pearls before swine. yeah. but, in the end, i did like elton because he was just, you know, very straightforward and honest. but he went very much off the rails, of course, latterly. yeah, yeah. tried to be normal. >> yeah. so musical heroes present can go present day, you know, we can go back the 50s and 60s and back to the 50s and 60s and early about today's early 70s. what about today's music? and music? how was that changed? and who to ? who do you listen to? >> the thing about music is >> the thing is about music is there's a tiny proportion there's always a tiny proportion of talent. people think the 60s were so brilliant, but there was a massive, absolute rubbish

recorded in the 60s as well. and today is always 2% of today there is always 2% of talent. like amy talent. someone like amy winehouse along totally winehouse comes along totally original, wonderful, obviously vulnerable in an awful way as well. yeah, so there's always talent around . talent around. >> is there any musicians that you've met or any bands that were disappointing to you, yes. >> franklin i was >> aretha franklin i was listening to her on the car, really terribly disappointed in aretha franklin . when i met aretha franklin. when i met johnny cash, i wanted him to be my dad. know, he was so lovely. >> but he he had a troubled >> but he had he had a troubled life , didn't he, johnny cash? >> not that bad, actually. no, he really. never he he made more really. he never really very much, really was in jail very much, you then he started you know. but then he started visiting jails because he thought ex—con, but he thought he was an ex—con, but he wasn't really. >> yes. i sort of played to the crowd on that one. but he had a he had bad, like, drug habit he had a bad, like, drug habit as well. >> he did. yes. of course >> he did. yes. and of course they all, know, in the end they all, you know, in the end they all, you know, in the end they were taking amphetamines to stay beatles and they were taking amphetamines to stay they beatles and they were taking amphetamines to stay they hooked eatles and they were taking amphetamines to stay they hooked eatthose.i that they got hooked on those. but this he this but then he met this he this june carter, who he married his second wife, his second wife, who was his redemption , really. and they and redemption, really. and they and i went on the road with them

together, it was i just i together, and it was i just i loved them both. >> so just imagine, philip, that you're one you're down in the dumps one sunday you're to sunday morning. you're going to put or your put your your cds or your records on your record player, which your go record i >> -- >> it would be all along the watchtower jimi hendrix. well watchtower by jimi hendrix. well which cover which is because jimi's cover versions as his versions were as great as his original songs i've ever written about jimi hendrix. i wrote a whole book about jimi hendrix. >> okay. and how's that one gone? >> yeah . it gone? >> yeah. it did. it was a couple. that was my last one before george harrison and, now isupposei before george harrison and, now i suppose i would be risk of i suppose i would be at risk of cultural appropriation because he was african american, but he was a wonderful, very sweet, lovely character who , like a lot lovely character who, like a lot of them, died at the age of 27. yeah. he was burnt out, but really by 27, he actually think he played in, in, in a club in sutton in ashfield where i'm from. >> back in, back in the 60s, in fact, we recorded one of our shows from that club, the diamond club. just give them a plug diamond club. just give them a plug watching? you plug. are they watching? you actually 1960s? actually performed in the 1960s? i didn't i couldn't really get him, to be honest with you. so

listen to some of songs. listen to some of the songs. i just don't get it. but just don't really get it. but the , the stones, the beatles, the stones, the guitar playing phenomenal. the beatles, the stones, the gui'yeah,iying phenomenal. the beatles, the stones, the gui'yeah, iing phenomenal. the beatles, the stones, the gui'yeah, i never phenomenal. the beatles, the stones, the gui'yeah, i never thoughtanal. the beatles, the stones, the gui'yeah, i never thought you. >> yeah, i never thought you could top jimi hendrix until i heard prince do a cover version of a george harrison song. yeah, that was utterly even more brilliant than hendrix. >> now i can get into prince . i >> now i can get into prince. i can understand his music, his records, bit of prince , records, like a bit of prince, but he died tragically as well, didn't did. mean , it it seems >> he did. i mean, it it seems to be almost like a condition of genius . you have to die young. genius. you have to die young. except when see the stones except when you see the stones who are now national treasures. yeah. and they so notorious yeah. and they were so notorious in the 60s. they were the most unstable band in the 60s. nearly went bust. and yet they turned into the long lived stones. do you think that's what it is, philip? >> genius. because they're always looking for that extra buzz that you're always trying to themselves for to push themselves looking for something get them out something else, to get them out of in the morning. of bed in the morning. >> also luck timing, >> it's also luck and timing, of course. and beatles really course. and the beatles really went destination went to this right destination by wrong way. like going by all the wrong way. like going to hamburg seemed disastrous at the time, but in the end, of

course, they were at the right, the at the right moment. >> okay, well, thanks for that fascinating discussion. thanks. nice good fascinating discussion. thanks. nice with good fascinating discussion. thanks. nice with the, good fascinating discussion. thanks. nice with the, the good fascinating discussion. thanks. nice with the, the george good luck with the, the george harrison coming harrison book. but coming up next, we've got right versus left hamilton left with christine hamilton and vince

joining me now for right versus left is christine hamilton. thanks for coming on. christine and zelenskyy , former leader of and zelenskyy, former leader of the liberal democrats, we've got an election this year. in fact, we've got one in america, one in the uk. the show's all been all about elections today and one in most of western world, most of the western world, haven't most of the western world, havand half of rest . and >> and half of the rest. and india. yes. >> but we're looking at the media guys and how impartial they're going to be. now, we know totally know gb news is totally impartial, it is. >> van der stuart, i think. yes. >> van der stuart, i think. yes. >> and it try hard. you >> and it does try hard. you know, there's always a left against anybody. >> well let's talk about the taxpayer funded now know

taxpayer funded bbc. now we know in that they've had to in the past that they've had to apologise for calling my party far right. i don't know where they got that idea from, they refuse to thinking they refuse to the word terrorists when to use the word terrorists when talking hamas. they say talking about hamas. they say it's the government calls them terrorists. it's a bit of a cop out to me, vince. are they going to impartial ? to be impartial? >> the bbc, of course they are. yeah, they will be. you know , yeah, they will be. you know, hold up. if they're not. so they have be very careful as of have to be very careful as of course, all the to air course, all the free to air channels do. you know, channels do. i mean, you know, bbc two, channel 4, channel five, know, have the same, five, you know, have the same, same issues. aren't you being a bit precious? you know, worrying about being called far right. i mean, you called an mean, if you were called an extremist, you know, in the same company as tommy robinson and that then you'd have a that crowd, then you'd have a point. that crowd, then you'd have a poiitommy is not in the >> tommy robinson is not in the building. and he would argue that extreme. that he's not extreme. >> is objectionable about >> what is objectionable about being called farage means extremist you're further extremist means you're further right than tory party. right than the tory party. i mean, accept that. so what mean, you'd accept that. so what if furthers okay, what's wrong? it's not. >> but people associate that

sort of far right label with nazis, with thugs, with extremists, with the national front. >> tommy robinson crowd are the only thing we in britain only thing we have in britain which remotely on that kind which is remotely on that kind of extreme fringe. and clearly you're not that. >> i'm looking at christine >> i'm just looking at christine now. dying well, it's now. you're dying to. well, it's not difficult to be further right than the current tory party, is it? >> i mean, it's pretty lib dem, frankly. that's their problem. and that's why the lib dem a bad thing. christine, i'm not a bad thing, but it's not. what a tory government should be. that's that's problem. why that's the problem. that's why they're going to lose the election because they haven't been conservative, which is why reform so well. been conservative, which is why refc it's so well. been conservative, which is why refc it's true. so well. been conservative, which is why refcit's true. but so well. been conservative, which is why refc it's true. but you vell. been conservative, which is why refcit's true. but you see, >> it's true. but you see, people like, you know, of people like, you know, some of the, on the the, media personalities on the bbc, lineker always bbc, like gary lineker is always tweeting of nonsense out tweeting a load of nonsense out on his social on his, on his social media platform. begs the platform. so it sort of begs the question, the be unbiased? >> well, mean, okay, >> well, yeah, i mean, okay, gary lineker in place. gary lineker is in one place. i mean, used to have clarkson mean, they used to have clarkson on you who on for years. you know, who was the opposite. was great the opposite. and it was great fun, know. and it was fun, you know. and it was part of right. fun, you know. and it was part of you �*il. fun, you know. and it was part of you know he wasn't doing >> and you know he wasn't doing politics me politics so was he. forgive me if he was but i don't think he

was. was doing and farming. >> bruneel was a brilliant journalist, good journalist, a very good interviewer. very interviewer. but you know, very clearly the right clearly positioned on the right and not apologetic about it. so quite problem? quite what's the problem? >> one of my main problems >> well, one of my main problems with the bbc is if you complain about any other broadcaster, whether it's gb news or itv or anything, you go to ofcom. if you want to complain the you want to complain about the bbc, bbc? bbc, where do you go, the bbc? it is ridiculous . why is it is utterly ridiculous. why is it only the bbc that's allowed to mark its own homework? >> well, i think you probably could go to ofcom. >> go to the bbc >> you have to go to the bbc first. remember first. do you remember there recently that recently there was that newsnight programme discussing gb there a gb news, and there wasn't a single person on the programme who, even in a mild way, was defending gb news. it was all vicious attack, attack , attack vicious attack, attack, attack and i, along with many other people, complained about that to the bbc and you just get a bland. >> some of my friends, christine , actually still watch question time on a thursday night, and they always a balanced they say it's always a balanced audience. well, they're supposed to select a balanced audience of

voters all political voters from all political spectrums, never seems spectrums, but it never seems very when they get the very balanced when they get the reactions very balanced when they get the rea(audience. the audience. >> well, defence is >> well, the beeb's defence is whether it's that or anything else. they say that they get as many complaints from the left as they do from the right, so therefore they must balanced therefore they must be balanced because they're doing something right. i w- w— ii actually, i've been >> i think actually, i've been on time 20 times or on question time 20 times or something you something like that. and you sometimes you get a very, very hard from the audience and hard time from the audience and the other panellists and the bbc are meticulous on that are actually meticulous on that particular programme. i mean, there that there may be other things that you problems with, but you have problems with, but i mean, picking out question time is a biased programme . i mean, i is a biased programme. i mean, i don't buy that. >> i don't watch it, so i can't comment time. comment about in question time. why to watch why would i want to watch question time? >> but does. it does seem >> but it does. it does seem it does seem, that even does seem, christine, that even in and it works both ways i guess sometimes because we saw when corbyn the when jeremy corbyn was the leader party , he leader of the labour party, he had a terrible time, didn't he? from the from most of the media, and then boris got the same back in 2019. so they have a big role to play. the bbc and, and all

the channels. >> well. and of course the big difference with the bbc is that we pay for it. i mean, you know, gb news is 100% funded privately. yeah. through advertising as well, but no element of compulsion , whereas element of compulsion, whereas we all have to pay for the bbc. therefore, there is a to me, there is a double duty on them to impartial because they're to be impartial because they're paid whole country, paid for by the whole country, but be impartial. but they should be impartial. >> they refuse to >> why is it they refuse to label hamas as a as a terrorist organisation? well they do. >> i every bulletin , >> i mean, every news bulletin, they, they use this phrase about a government described . well, i a government described. well, i mean, as you know, i mean, the middle east is a highly emotive issue. people are throwing around terrorists , around words like terrorists, genocide, you know, whether or not it has any precise legal justification. so it is a tricky area. they're going to run into problems, whatever they do. and yeah, but only to get a sense that they're very careful on their news bulletins. always to have a palestinian voice and a voice the israeli voice from the israeli authorities. and they're very careful to keep a balance

between the two. >> but vince says they're going to run into trouble, but with who? with who? christine. the answerable to . are you the taxpayer? >> well, exactly. and they're they're answerable to themselves . how possibly say . but how you can possibly say after the 7th of october that hamas is not a terrorist organisation is simply unbelievable. and of course , i unbelievable. and of course, i think we completely buy that. but it took them a while to realise that, didn't it? and actually through actually to follow through and call terrorists . yeah. call them terrorists. yeah. >> let's about the election >> let's talk about the election coming this year. oh do let's coming up this year. oh do let's talk about the election. we've seen the, emergence of the reform party. i mean, the polling quite well this week. congratulations, by the way. that's not down to me. >> first mp well, you are their first mp, which is a great move. i'm not quite right. >> farage is not had an mp didn't they , yeah, but not the didn't they, yeah, but not the reform. reform? was reform. reform? well it was something. yeah. i forgot that honour of being the first reform member in the history books. >> as the first ever reform mp. >> as the first ever reform mp. >> the last, of >> yes, maybe the last, of course, so let's course, but certainly, so let's

talk the election . talk about the election. >> is reform going to win some seats, do you think in the next election it's an uphill seats, do you think in the next election iisn'ti uphill seats, do you think in the next election iisn't it,phill seats, do you think in the next election iisn't it, for.l seats, do you think in the next election iisn't it, for any struggle, isn't it, for any small party? >> know, i mean, the >> as we know, i mean, the system is very unfair if are system is very unfair if you are part the major parties, part of the major parties, labour or tory, you love the system because it keeps you, one of you in power forever. if you're one of the minor parties, then it's desperately unfair. of course it's unfair. i mean, i can't remember the figures, but ukip got millions and millions and millions of votes at the last election. the election before. and they got no mps . before. and they got no mps. they got one, i think. >> douglas carson i think people know vince a little bit smarter, a more nimble, they a bit more nimble, how they vote, people sometimes vote, you know, people sometimes vote, you know, people sometimes vote for the party or against the they don't want the party that they don't want to be elected. but i think this time the electorate , the sort of time the electorate, the sort of sense that i'm getting travelling up and down the country, the electorate are a country, is the electorate are a little bit fed with politics little bit fed up with politics and will stay at and and a lot will stay at home and not to apathy. could not vote to apathy. that could be at the election. be a big killer at the election. and especially the and people, especially on the subject immigration, we subject of immigration, which we spoke people just subject of immigration, which we spokethey've people just subject of immigration, which we

spokethey've been people just subject of immigration, which we spokethey've been pedowniust subject of immigration, which we spokethey've been pe down for, think they've been let down for, well over 20 years now on immigration. they've been lied to. >> i think one thing we'd all agreed on, actually, is that the british voting system is extremely small and extremely unfair to small and insurgent parties. i mean, i know very well from the last 40 years or so and system works heavily against you. i mean, you may well get 1 or 2 mps. i mean, i guess you have a reasonable chance, but the, you know, the system is not going to give you a big representation in parliament. we're throwing the kitchen sink next kitchen sink at the next election. we may get 30, 35, something like that, but it still be too still would be very too many voters then. >> you we're very >> vince, are you we're very unrepresentative of our support in the country now. >> two points. one is i personally think reform is making a mistake fighting every single seat. i think it's ridiculous to fight certain people who share virtually every single view . i think it's single view. i think it's a waste of resources, and you should be homing in on others. that's the first point. second point if you look point is actually if you look at wales and i don't hold wales out as of anything, as an example of anything, frankly , having a example

frankly, having a poor example for health and education. well, exactly. having worked there for five years, i've seen it on the inside. their electoral inside. but their electoral system have an element system does have an element of fairness because they have 60 members and 40 of them are elected on the constituency basis. the other 20 are basis. and then the other 20 are other 20 are done on a variation of proportion. >> well, the welsh, the scottish, the london voting system is which proportional which does them which does give them fairer representation . representation. >> before we move on to the yes or no quiz, i'd like read out or no quiz, i'd like to read out a statement provided to us by the on the bbc, refusing to the bbc on the bbc, refusing to use the word terrorist to describe hamas is said the bbc uses the word terrorist with attribution. when we mentioned hamas, we make it clear where possible that they are a proscribed terrorist organisation by the uk government and others. and in response to our concern about its employees tweeting politically motivated materials , politically motivated materials, it said high profile presenters outside of journalism should be able to express views on issues

and policies , including matters and policies, including matters of political contention , but of political contention, but still well short of campaigning in party politics or for activist organisations. it is clear that the british public expect bbc non—news presenters to maintain high standards on social media and respect an appropriate balance between impartiality and freedom of expression . it's the yes no quiz expression. it's the yes no quiz and remember, remember stephen pound, he comes on this show on a regular basis. is he's not what you want to be like. you need to just answer yes , yes or need to just answer yes, yes or no. okay, i know it's difficult for politicians, so . start with for politicians, so. start with you vince. will trump win the us election ? election? >> yes, i think yes. >> yes, i think yes. >> a wrong answer because you said yes. i think he well so i can't give that. that's one nil. >> he said yes didn't he. >> he said yes didn't he. >> but he says think he will. >> oh i see that's strange or no. 110. >> no. >> very % quiz christine. >> very strict quiz christine. okay so go to you, will biden be the democratic candidate in the

election? no >> vince, yes . >> vince, yes. >> vince, yes. >> so vince is a reform uk , a >> so vince is a reform uk, a far right party, as described by the bbc, who later apologised . the bbc, who later apologised. and yes, it's a far right. is it christine ? no, number four. christine? no, number four. christine, will labour win the next election? yes yes. and last question , vince, will reform question, vince, will reform win, win any seats at the next election ? yes. christine. yes. election? yes. christine. yes. >> five. five four. >> five. five four. >> two. christine . is there one >> two. christine. is there one you want to come back on? >> christine to answer my yes, on the last question about will reform, i was hesitant because, you the system you know, the system is massively against massively stacked against you. yeah, there is a groundswell yeah, but there is a groundswell of feel the public opinion at the moment who are just fed up with the we labour like 20 with the we see labour like 20 odd points behind. >> don't that's because >> i don't think that's because they literally 20 points they are literally 20 points behind. a lot of people behind. i think a lot of people don't or oh , well,

don't want to vote or oh, well, they need to be 12 points out to win the election. >> yeah. so i think actually 20 could evaporate quite quickly. >> yeah. so i think actually 20 couso evaporate quite quickly. >> yeah. so i think actually 20 cou so evaporatipeople quickly. >> yeah. so i think actually 20 couso evaporatipeople i'm kly. >> yeah. so i think actually 20 couso evaporatipeople i'm sure >> so a lot of people i'm sure haven't up their mind yet. haven't made up their mind yet. they're dry i >> -- >> so is there one you want to come back on vince. one of these questions. >> no, i mean i think you will be out of a point. >> no, no, you've got to be strict in this show. it's on this quiz. yes no. this quiz. it's a yes or no. yeah, you've before. but yeah, you've done it before. but let's about labour let's just talk about labour winning next is winning the next election. is it going landslide is it going to be a landslide or is it going to be a landslide or is it going a hung parliament? going to be a hung parliament? i don't see the landslide coming personally. >> either, i think >> i don't either, i think i think will probably get think they will probably get back overall back with a small overall majority, they've majority, but of course they've still or 30 still got a rump of 20 or 30 corbynites. starmer is going corbynites. so starmer is going to maintaining to have a problem maintaining discipline party. things discipline in his party. things are going to be tough. it's not are going to be tough. it's not a great deal can with are going to be tough. it's not a gibudgetl can with are going to be tough. it's not a gibudget positionin with are going to be tough. it's not a gibudget position and with are going to be tough. it's not a gibudget position and wit debt position. >> will get any beef >> and will they get any beef from but you know, from the unions? but you know, the service unions, the public service unions, i think are to think think people are going to think long and hard. >> that bother to >> are those that bother to vote. don't people vote. and i don't see how people can if you look back can not vote. if you look back at history how people can not vote. if you look back at foughty how people can not vote. if you look back at fought and how people can not vote. if you look back at fought and died people can not vote. if you look back at fought and died peiget the have fought and died to get the vote, but there we are, i don't

think going a massive think it's going to be a massive landslide, do think landslide, but i do think they'll pretty they'll do it pretty pretty easily, i'm afraid. >> think my old party >> and do you think my old party will their leader before will change their leader before the no christine. >> absolutely not. for goodness sake. five i mean, is it 5 or 6? seven.i sake. five i mean, is it 5 or 6? seven. i don't know, it's five. it's absurd. it's absurd. can we just the to beau just go back to the to the beau biden business? i'm biden business? because i'm certain going to certain that what's going to happen once he's got the nomination, suddenly going nomination, he's suddenly going to that he's too to be discovered that he's too ill to stand when it's safe. >> but that already, >> but we know that already, don't we? >> well, of course we do. but if they admit it now, then you get kamala harris and they don't want that, so they've got to get over that. >> okay, guys, we're going to wrap it up now. sorry, vince, you got defeated , by christine you got defeated, by christine five points to four. you're the winner this week

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real world. and tonight i'm joined by social media sensation paul davies. pearl got some notes here. a little bit of background about you . and i'm background about you. and i'm going to be honest with you, it's not a good look, okay? it says you've been described as misogynistic anti feminist. the female andrew tate , and you female andrew tate, and you believe you wrote on twitter i think in 2023 that women should not have the vote. should they be chained up at the kitchen sink? well i didn't say chained up at the kitchen sink. >> i just said we should evolve. >> i just said we should evolve. >> why shouldn't they vote? >> why shouldn't they vote? >> look, yeah , i think you need >> look, yeah, i think you need to have some in the game, to have some skin in the game, right ? women? right now, we're right? women? right now, we're not doing any of the infrastructure not at infrastructure jobs. not at large. we're not paying taxes. we're in a load of debt. and we keep voting for policies that ruin so i just look ruin the country. so i just look at large and i and i think to myself, why do we deserve to vote? are we paying taxes? no. are paying the hard? are we are we paying the hard? are we doing the hard jobs? no. if you just limited it to people that

doing the hard jobs? no. if you just taxes,d it to people that doing the hard jobs? no. if you just taxes, are to people that doing the hard jobs? no. if you just taxes, are notieople that doing the hard jobs? no. if you just taxes, are not inple that doing the hard jobs? no. if you just taxes, are not in debt,at doing the hard jobs? no. if you just taxes, are not in debt, are pay taxes, are not in debt, are not taking child support, alimony stuff . it alimony or any of that stuff. it would be like two women that could vote left or that do infrastructure. >> you know, if i said this sort of stuff , i would get chased. of stuff, i would get chased. there would be people out with pitchforks chasing me down the street. you can't get much, you know , kick back. know, kick back. >> it's true, though, you know it's true. and it's so funny because when i talk to guys, i know they agree with me. deep down, see you're down, i know they see you're laughing right. and laughing because i'm right. and see, would. you see, because you would. you wouldn't find this funny if you didn't it true on didn't know that it was true on some level . didn't know that it was true on some level. but didn't know that it was true on some level . but say, don't some level. but you say, i don't think fair. i don't think think it's fair. i don't think it's that we all of it's fair that we have all of the say, all the politicians the say, all of the politicians have to us. you know, have to cater to us. you know, because are the largest swing because we are the largest swing vote. what you're vote. i can see what you're saying small extent. saying to a small extent. >> said that get >> i've always said that men get a rough sometimes. you a rough deal sometimes. you know, pretty useful when a rough deal sometimes. you krcomes pretty useful when a rough deal sometimes. you krcomes to pretty useful when a rough deal sometimes. you krcomes to goingetty useful when a rough deal sometimes. you krcomes to going to useful when a rough deal sometimes. you krcomes to going to war. ful when it comes to going to war. they're pretty useful it's they're pretty useful when it's when going down a when it comes to going down a coal mine and digging coal out. pretty useful it to, pretty useful when it goes to, you know, going into the ocean, fishing all the fishing and doing all the dangerous, fishing and doing all the da construction, but women in construction, etc. but women

are because are just as important because without women we wouldn't have children. yeah yeah. >> i mean, but that doesn't mean you should vote, because without men we wouldn't have children ehhen men we wouldn't have children either. women want a better >> surely women want a better world. like, why is it? >> why is it that we only give women for children? no kids. >> so maybe. but maybe one day when you do, if you do have children, you might want to think to yourself crazy. >> what i just >> you know what i just realised? i'm sorry. i'm sorry. we're that. we're realised? i'm sorry. i'm sorry. we' having that. we're realised? i'm sorry. i'm sorry. we' having kids. that. we're realised? i'm sorry. i'm sorry. we' having kids. well,that. we're realised? i'm sorry. i'm sorry. we' having kids. well, sot. we're realised? i'm sorry. i'm sorry. we' having kids. well, so you e're not having kids. well, so you said women , we wouldn't said without women, we wouldn't have children. we're not having children. the birthrates decline. that's of decline. that's like one of the biggest in every country. >> it's important as >> yes, it's important as a mother, when you do have children. one of the first children. the one of the first things think as things that you think about as any really, any parent, really, whether you're what you're male or female, is what sort want your sort of world do you want your children live in? and you can children to live in? and you can only, influence that only, you know, influence that world ballot box, surely. >> yeah. so but but again, i think you . need to have skin in think you. need to have skin in the game. i think you need to be paying the game. i think you need to be paying taxes. you know, i'm not for men. >> you saying that

>> so are you saying that unemployed shouldn't. >> so are you saying that unemplno,d shouldn't. >> so are you saying that unemplno, i shouldn't. >> so are you saying that unemplno, i think shouldn't. >> so are you saying that unemplno, i think i shouldn't. >> so are you saying that unemplno, i think i think dn't. >> so are you saying that unemplno, i think i think you >> no, no, i think i think you need to have skin in the need to have some skin in the game. you i i game. yeah. you know, i just i don't and don't think it's fair. and on top of that, in the us, men are fine. $250,000 if they're not enlisted in selective service. okay. that's why enlisted in selective service. okay. didn't that's why enlisted in selective service. okay. didn't vote 1at's why enlisted in selective service. okay. didn't vote historically. women didn't vote historically. it wasn't what they tell you. all the suppression, sexism . no. all the suppression, sexism. no. it because the vote came it was because the vote came with war in times of in with going to war in times of in times of trouble. so now it's like men have all of the responsibility of running society, protecting society, okay. so what about so it came that came with the freedom to vote. >> so i guess if people like watching this now screaming at the screen, you know, and so what . female politicians? what about. female politicians? we've had female prime ministers, should they be allowed to enter politics? >> don't prefer women >> oh, god, i don't prefer women in politics. i don't it. in politics. i don't prefer it. but but you know, if they're but but but you know, if they're taxpaying citizens, fine , fine. taxpaying citizens, fine, fine. >> so how can a female politician. we've had a few female prime ministers in this country. you're saying they country. but you're saying they shouldn't country. but you're saying they shoi'mi't country. but you're saying they shoi'm sure they. i'm not in the

game. >> i'm not. i'm not the biggest fan of female politicians. i think generally we're too emotional. yeah. so i mean, it's like, do do i want it in the us? i know more about the us political system . so do i want political system. so do i want someone with the bomb that someone with the nuke bomb that could get their period, you know, and then she's in a bad mood. i don't want that personally. >> yeah. i suppose it'd be. >> yeah. i suppose it'd be. >> i fear the day we have a woman president in the us. i fear that day. why? i just i don't i don't think women aren't meant to lead. we're not meant don't i don't think women aren't meant 1countries'e're not meant don't i don't think women aren't meant 1countries .'re not meant to lead countries. >> you've been a bit. i mean, if i said that about women having penods. i said that about women having periods . and about to press the periods. and about to press the nuclear button, i'd be in a whole lot of trouble. but men have bad moods as well, you know? i mean, we've seen some people world that are people in the world that are leading countries at putin. people in the world that are leac know, untries at putin. people in the world that are leacknow, most s at putin. people in the world that are leac know, most s ithinkin. people in the world that are leac know, most s (think that you know, most people think that he's sooner he's a madman. would you sooner have country have him running the country with his on the button or with his finger on the button or a i don't i can't speak >> well, i don't i can't speak to but you know, my

to putin, but you know, in my experience, women less experience, women are far less emotionally men. emotionally stable than men. i've interviewed a thousand women, could women, and i could tell a significant difference. and i think average think if you ask the average person on the street who's more emotionally stable, men or women, can you imagine the kind of backlash i would get or any man would get saying what you're saying? i know, but you guys know right. that's the funny know i'm right. that's the funny thing. guys know right. >> $- f you got what, >> you two, you got what, millions subscribers? >> you two, you got what, mill of s subscribers? >> you two, you got what, mill of feedback:ribers? >> you two, you got what, mill of feedback do ers? >> you two, you got what, mill of feedback do you get from sort of feedback do you get from that you know, these that poll? you know, with these sort and theories sort of ideas and theories you've like it, you've got, some people like it, some yeah. and you've got, some people like it, sothere yeah. and you've got, some people like it, sothere a yeah. and you've got, some people like it, sothere a market yeah. and you've got, some people like it, sothere a market for yeah. and you've got, some people like it, sothere a market for it?ah. and is there a market for it? >> there a market market for it. >> yeah, obviously there isn't there. >> oh, gosh. no, i, i don't even think women shouldn't vote is the opinion. the most popular opinion. i would stuff more focuses would say my stuff more focuses around family court. that's actually came the actually how i came to the conclusion women shouldn't conclusion that women shouldn't vote look, vote was because look, look, i wanted to know why men didn't have access to their children in this country . yeah. and i find this country. yeah. and i find out that politicians are out that all the politicians are catering to the women, even though men are doing the majority of the that's not though men are doing the maj to ty of the that's not though men are doing the majto me. the that's not fair to me. >> think there is some >> i think that there is some

truth you say there truth in what you say there about, know , in relationship about, you know, in relationship breakdowns, there's breakdowns, etc. when there's children involved. sometimes the law is on the law sort of, you know, is on the side the women. side of the women. >> when 90% of the time. >> when 90% of the time. >> i know i've been there, >> yeah, i know i've been there, i was fortunate enough, though, when down, when my relationship broke down, i fortunate enough to have i was fortunate enough to have my children come and stay with me. always , you know, if me. so not always, you know, if sometimes you have to put a little of fight up, but, little bit of a fight up, but, your opinions are would be crazy to probably millions of people. but, you know, some people might agree with you, i don't agree with you, but that's fine. we live in a democratic world. i think people like my mother and my sisters and the women i know would be going crazy at you saying they shouldn't have a vote, but i respect your, you know, your right to have that opinion. coming next, opinion. coming up next, we've got live. i just got friday night live. i just want say a big thank you to want to say a big thank you to all my guests this week, and i'm sure there's plenty of people will be emailing in complaining about saying can't about this lady saying you can't have a. vote.

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for we continue to for most of us, we continue to see the mix of some sunshine, but also the risk of some rain at times. it's all courtesy of this area of low pressure, which is hang. this area of low pressure, which is hang . around as we is going to hang. around as we go through the next few days, but with winds coming up from the south, it should feel a little bit less cold. so as we end good friday, still the risk of some showers across parts of scotland, northern ireland, maybe of england maybe western fringes of england and turning and wales, but elsewhere turning clear a few clear with the risk of a few misty forming come dawn. clear with the risk of a few mistalso forming come dawn. clear with the risk of a few mistalso a forming come dawn. clear with the risk of a few mistalso a forofng come dawn. clear with the risk of a few mistalso a forofng co ine dawn. clear with the risk of a few mistalso a forofng co in the rim. and also a touch of frost in the countryside. start countryside. so we do start saturday bit of a saturday off on a bit of a chilly note, but some sunshine from the word go. risk of a little bit cloud and patchy little bit of cloud and patchy rain just reaching the very far east england the main rain just reaching the very far east ofengland the main rain just reaching the very far east of anyind the main rain just reaching the very far east of any showersthe main rain just reaching the very far east of any showers tomorrow focus of any showers tomorrow will be again across more western northern parts of western and northern parts of the country, there should be western and northern parts of tilittle ntry, there should be western and northern parts of tilittle bill, there should be western and northern parts of tilittle bit fewerthere should be western and northern parts of tilittle bit fewer ands should be western and northern parts of tilittle bit fewer and further! be a little bit fewer and further between compared to today. temperature between compared to today. temperatl not between compared to today. temperathot feeling too bad. sunshine. not feeling too bad. highs reaching around 14 or 15 degrees. having a look at easter

. day. a bit of a cloudy start across many eastern parts, but that will burn its way back towards the north sea. so for many , it's another day of many again, it's another day of some of a few some sunny spells. risk of a few showers potential a little bit more in the way of persistent rain. just arriving in the very far south western corner. and that sets us up for a bit of a north south split on monday. rather grey in the south rather grey and wet in the south but hanging on to the sunshine further north. >> looks like

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special easter message very. shortly that will hopefully lift your spirits elsewhere tonight . your spirits elsewhere tonight. britain is in the thick of a devastating knife crime epidemic . how on earth did we get into this situation? how do we escape from it? and remember this legend? because this de—man legend? because this is de—man this night one's this long night and no one's gonna you from the beast gonna save you from the beast about to strike, you know? >> there like. >> is there like. >> is there like. >> yes, that's right. the hotly anticipated mj, the musical celebrating the legacy of michael hero . by the michael jackson, my hero. by the way. it premiered in london's west end last night. but some party poopers reckon the king of pop should be cancelled over his child abuse allegations. is this celebration of jacko's legacy deserved his deserved or insulting to his victims his 300 kids victims and his 300 kids go feral milton keynes , storming feral in milton keynes, storming a and causing a shopping centre and causing havoc. . be havoc. should parents. be punished for the poor behaviour of their children? this. is friday night. live with me, ben.