special easter message very. shortly that will hopefully lift your spirits elsewhere tonight . your spirits elsewhere tonight. britain is in the thick of a devastating knife crime epidemic . how on earth did we get into this situation? how do we escape from it? and remember this legend? because this de—man legend? because this is de—man this night one's this long night and no one's gonna you from the beast gonna save you from the beast about to strike, you know? >> there like. >> is there like. >> is there like. >> yes, that's right. the hotly anticipated m], the musical celebrating the legacy of michael hero . by the michael jackson, my hero. by the way. it premiered in london's west end last night. but some party poopers reckon the king of pop should be cancelled over his child abuse allegations. is this celebration of jacko's legacy deserved his deserved or insulting to his victims his 300 kids victims and his 300 kids go feral milton keynes , storming feral in milton keynes, storming a and causing a shopping centre and causing havoc. . be havoc. should parents. be punished for the poor behaviour of their children? this. is friday night. live with me, ben.

leo, bring your own drinks or easter eggs and let's get cracking. on tonight's show, my friday friends . tv personality ingrid friends. tv personality ingrid tarrant and political commentator kyle wilshire, plus renowned businessman and anti—knife campaigner henry smith. and of course, friday night favourite night live favourite alexandra marshall. australia . marshall. live from australia. how i'd love to be there now. my friday big opinion is on the way, but first, here's your news headunes way, but first, here's your news headlines with francis. headlines with sam francis. >> ben, thanks very much. and good evening from the gb newsroom. just gone 8:00 and we start with the latest developments coming out of northern ireland tonight, where the new leader of the democratic unionist condemned unionist party has condemned what conspiracy what he calls conspiracy theories and cheap political point . that's following point scoring. that's following the criminal charges made against donaldson ,

against sir jeffrey donaldson, the shock resignation of the former dup leader and longest serving mp in northern ireland came after he was accused of serious historical sex offences. gavin was unanimously gavin robinson was unanimously appointed leader gavin robinson was unanimously appoin'for leader gavin robinson was unanimously appoin'for the leader gavin robinson was unanimously appoin'for the party. leader gavin robinson was unanimously appoin'for the party. he leader gavin robinson was unanimously appoin'for the party. he saysier earlier for the party. he says the charges against donaldson were a devastating revelation . were a devastating revelation. >> one thing has caused tremendous shock, not forjust tremendous shock, not for just myself personally or my colleagues within the dup, but for the community right across northern ireland. it came as a great shock, but we are a party and individuals that believe in justice. we have faith in our criminal justice system and so in the coming days and months, i think it is important that none of us say anything or act in any way that would seek to prejudice what is now an ongoing criminal investigation . investigation. >> you know, the news one of the conservative party's . major conservative party's. major donors has received a knighthood as part of a controversial

honours list from rishi sunak. mohamed mansour gave £5 million to the tories last year and is a senior treasurer for the party. he was knighted for what's been described as services to business, to charity and politics. other recipients include mp philip davies, who is also a former presenter on this network. the timing of the list, though , is unusual, coming while though, is unusual, coming while parliament is in recess and on the of the easter bank the eve of the easter bank houday the eve of the easter bank holiday weekend. police are tonight for help tonight appealing for help in their man suspected their search for a man suspected of in london. of raping two women in london. the attacks took place four years first years apart, first in westminster 2018, followed westminster in 2018, followed by another shoreditch another incident in shoreditch in offences were in 2022. those offences were being investigated as separate crimes, but forensic work has helped to draw a link between the two. detectives say it's highly likely. the two. detectives say it's highly likely . the suspect has highly likely. the suspect has also committed other attacks. the metropolitan force has released this e—fit image you can see here. if you're watching on television and they're asking

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carmelites. >> thank you, sam, and good evening to you lovely folk watching from home and most importantly, a good friday to you ahead of the easter bank houday you ahead of the easter bank holiday weekend . yeah, that's holiday weekend. yeah, that's right, it's easter. did you remember? i know we've been conditioned in recent times to, i don't know, i guess, renounce our faith at the altar of political correctness, gesture, eggs, defacing, hot cross buns, even of even the industrial baptising of channel migrants who couldn't give christianity, give a toss about christianity, but want to scam the but who simply want to scam the system and stay in the uk. but let me remind you of something. this is a christian country. the anglican its anglican church maintains its status state status of religion of the state and the king charles, he's still head church. so never head of the church. so never forget and i'll be honest forget it. and i'll be honest with not practising with you, i'm not a practising christian. i certainly wouldn't indoctrinate my kids with the idea of religion either. but i do have faith in some sort do have some faith in some sort of a and believe in the of a god, and i believe in the lessons christ due to lessons of jesus christ due to others as you'd want done to

yourself. love your neighbour, value peace, truth. don't yourself. love your neighbour, valldon't ce, truth. don't yourself. love your neighbour, valldon't steal truth. don't yourself. love your neighbour, valldon't steal . truth. don't yourself. love your neighbour, valldon't steal . cherish don't lie. don't steal. cherish relationships with people with nature and even yourself. and of course, be grateful. show gratitude. so you don't need to be a religious nut to think those things are pretty good. values to life and those things are pretty good. vguessto life and those things are pretty good. vguess maybe life and those things are pretty good. vguess maybe more and those things are pretty good. vguess maybe more us nd those things are pretty good. vguess maybe more us did i guess maybe if more of us did take those lessons, we take heed of those lessons, we wouldn't end up with the feral gangs saw running gangs of kids we saw running riot milton riot in places like milton keynes yesterday. or just maybe, keynes yesterday. orjust maybe, if more of us or just maybe, if more of us were brought up to value life as jesus did, and to never take the life of another, we wouldn't see the knife crime, the kind of knife crime, savagery, currently savagery, savagery currently gripping london. so look, like i said, i'm going to stress this. i'm not asking you to go and repent your sins while reciting verses of the bible , despite verses of the bible, despite what some militant christians will you to do . in

will try and force you to do. in actual fact, one of them last week on twitter told me that jesus wouldn't love me because he doesn't allow us to be half in half let you in half out. let me tell you something, pal. kind of something, pal. that kind of jesus sound very loving jesus doesn't sound very loving to and version the to me, and my version of the bloke is a lot more generous than judgemental than the judgemental and conditional person you like to portray me. so this easter, let's come together family, let's come together for family, friendship, let's come together for family, friendsthan ourselves, and faith bigger than ourselves, and faith that things out that things will work out for the better . because if we don't the better. because if we don't have faith in the future, there's to live for there's little to live for today. and if you don't care about any of that , just enjoy about any of that, just enjoy the chocolate. i'm gonna get stuck into mine now. and by the way, my panel tonight, my big panel, the wokeist in britain, used wokeist man in britain, used to belong benjamin butterworth, belong to benjamin butterworth, but belongs to but it now belongs to kai willsher, . on saturday willsher, who was. on saturday five of me a few weeks ago. and you were too far left for even

benjamin butterworth. and of course, talented course, the very talented tv personality ingrid tarrant. good evening to you thank you evening to you both. thank you for going for being here. i'm going to be willy next couple for being here. i'm going to be wiminutes. next couple for being here. i'm going to be wiminutes. kai, next couple for being here. i'm going to be wiminutes. kai, this next couple for being here. i'm going to be wiminutes. kai, this is (t couple for being here. i'm going to be wiminutes. kai, this is forouple of minutes. kai, this is for you, caramel happy you, caramel crunch. happy easter. know easter. oh, and did you know ingrid, for you, utterly nuttily . utterly. >> natalie. >> natalie. >> no, no . is that, of course, >> no, no. is that, of course, to suggest that you're absolutely barking mad? >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, funnily enough, i've got something for you. oh, it's not as big. >> this would be my first one of the weekend. >> thank you, easter bunny the weekend. >> tithere'ou, easter bunny the weekend. >> tithere we easter bunny the weekend. >> tithere we go. ter bunny lollipop. there we go. >> feel terrible for >> yeah, i feel terrible for being empty handed now. >> right. >> that's all right. >> that's all right. >> happens with the >> that's what happens with the keys. left these. you keys. and you left these. you only think of yourselves, don't you? let's get you? so come on then, let's get your thoughts on that, that big opinion. said, i'm not. i'm opinion. as i said, i'm not. i'm not religious person, opinion. as i said, i'm not. i'm not i religious person, opinion. as i said, i'm not. i'm not i kind religious person, opinion. as i said, i'm not. i'm not i kind rehavers person, opinion. as i said, i'm not. i'm not i kind rehave some;on, opinion. as i said, i'm not. i'm not i kind rehave some sort but i do kind of have some sort of with jesus and of affinity with jesus and god, you whatever is you know, whatever that is. is it important we kind of heed the lessons of jesus in some aspects of our do you reckon, of our lives? do you reckon, ingnd? ingrid? yes, definitely. >> be >> and you don't have to be religious look at the ten

religious to, look at the ten commandments and put them into just so just normal, everyday living. so it you rightly said , do it is, as you rightly said, do unto others as you'd like to have done to yourself. don't steal, you know the steal, don't kill. you know the ten commandments are actually, you a very , very good you know, a very, very good guideline. it makes you follow the rules to be a good person that other people respect. and it's all about mutual respect. >> are you religious? >> are you religious? >> not bible such >> i'm not bible bashing as such i >> -- >> no, no offence to anyone watching. who, no. >> and i don't go to church every sunday. but i do say my prayers every night, do prayers every night, and i do believe yeah, and i find believe in god. yeah, and i find comfort in that. >> this is all getting a bit deep, isn't it? for a friday cloister. what do you reckon? >> well, i'm going to surprise you. i actually grew up in quite a strong tradition of welsh nonconformist church going, we're not particularly pious, to be honest, we're not that religious, but i think it's really about those values of community and honesty. and as

you , just because there is a you say, just because there is a decline in church going . in the decline in church going. in the united kingdom, it doesn't mean that we have to cast off all those values behind that faith and behind christian religion. and so i totally agree. i think . and so i totally agree. i think. you know, we need to bear that in mind. and i do feel not only with easter, but also with other religious holidays, they religious holidays, that they have too have seemed to become too commercial . all right, every commercial. all right, every january, as . commercial. all right, every january, as. soon as the christmas stuff is out of the shops, the easter eggs . christmas stuff is out of the shops, the easter eggs. can i just make a point? >> in recent weeks we've had that situation, which wasn't cadbury's, by the way. let me make that clear. it was the shop selling the easter eggs, but they gesture they labelled it as gesture eggs. we had incident with

eggs. we had an incident with westminster council earlier today where had ramadan today where they had a ramadan display nothing about display and nothing about easter, which they hurriedly went to amend. we've had . went to amend. we've had. various examples of it feels like christianity being kind of eroded away from society. is that intentional? i mean, what's going on there? >> it almost seems to be intentional because it's happening so quickly and it's so obvious and it's right to say we are a christian country and we're not apologetic. we're almost the almost embarrassed. that's the terrible do all terrible problem. so we do all the signalling the the virtue signalling for the muslims immigrants. make muslims and immigrants. we make people from people feel very welcome from other cultures, which is exactly right. mean that right. but it doesn't mean that we actually have ignore we actually have to ignore our own other own culture to accommodate other people cultures. why? >> eh. w we so godless? you >> why are we so godless? you know, because i reckon, right. >> why are we so godless? you kri w, because i reckon, right. >> why are we so godless? you kri walk cause i reckon, right. >> why are we so godless? you kri walk down i reckon, right. >> why are we so godless? you kri walk down i reckon, street if i walk down the high street tomorrow asked people, if i walk down the high street toryomw asked people, if i walk down the high street toryou believe asked people, if i walk down the high street toryou believe in;ked people, if i walk down the high street toryou believe in god people, if i walk down the high street toryou believe in god p4youa, do you believe in god or do you believe in jesus? not necessarily are an necessarily like me. are you an absolute, religious absolute, you know, religious fanatic? believe fanatic? but do you just believe in or god? i reckon most in jesus or god? i reckon most people say people would say no. >> know, i think >> do you know, i think statistically 50. statistically it's under 50. i think something 47. think it's something like 47. don't but they don't well believe it. but they and break that down and

and then you break that down and they what they they don't know what they believe of like believe in. kind of like something, but they're not practising that something, but they're not pr reallyg that something, but they're not pr really terrible. that something, but they're not prreally terrible. do that something, but they're not pr really terrible. do yourt is really terrible. but do you know, church doesn't know, the church itself doesn't help, did help, a lot of the, i did occasionally go to church and it became quite politicised, even with village issues , honestly, with village issues, honestly, like nosy neighbours cursing switches is that. and i don't go to church that i like to hear a really good sermon that's appropriate to us and the way that we live, and to uphold values and morals and things like that. not for it to become sort of like a pulpit to point out political things or even like little village things. i think it's wrong. >> but. so you grew up going to church, right? yes do you think that some of today's behaviour we see, especially from young people, we saw that the clips from milton keynes, we've seen some really horrific incidents this week on, you know, the train with the stabbing. there was another stabbing in london

as well. do you think any of that boils down to the fact that people don't believe in something bigger than themselves? what something bigger than them they s? what something bigger than them they got what something bigger than them they got to what something bigger than them they got to live what something bigger than them they got to live for? what have they got to live for? >> pretty much. i think it's also about the fact that there are no community hubs anymore. you i went to you know, for me, when i went to cal turner said that earlier, well, i live i know, i know, but but i think such a cop out. but it's not because, you know, if you i agree, if you look at funding for children services for right. 2010, £1.4 for instance. right. 2010, £1.4 billion a year now it's less than churches than £500 million. and churches often in that hub of often were also in that hub of activity. that meant that people stayed out of trouble. that they learned about the sort of morals that were about that you were talking about in your doesn't your introduction. that doesn't exist we've exist anymore. and i think we've lost that. >> exactly whether it's >> whether exactly whether it's religious or not. >> n religious or not. >> i used to >> you know, i mean, i used to go a youth evening class as go to a youth evening class as part the, the, as part of my part of the, the, as part of my church, and not everybody was religious . church, and not everybody was religious. in church, and not everybody was religious . in fact, we had lots religious. in fact, we had lots of scientists in there who completely disavowed religion . completely disavowed religion. but we talked openly about faith, science , philosophy, and faith, science, philosophy, and it meant that we had something

to bind us all together. >> i didn't i didn't grow up playing table tennis. >> i didn't i didn't grow up playing table tennis . and ping playing table tennis. and ping pongin playing table tennis. and ping pong in a youth club, and i haven't gone out and stabbed people and, you know, behaved like absolute listen. people and, you know, behaved likethere'solute listen. people and, you know, behaved likethere's note listen. people and, you know, behaved likethere's no excuse1. people and, you know, behaved likethere's no excuse for that. >> there's no excuse for that. >> there's no excuse for that. >> of you know. and >> of course. you know. and also, i'll just make this point as lot people as well. a lot of people have really hard upbringings go really hard upbringings and go through know, through a lot of, you know, so—called and stuff. but through a lot of, you know, so—wised and stuff. but through a lot of, you know, so—wised to and stuff. but through a lot of, you know, so—wised to d0|d stuff. but through a lot of, you know, so—wised to d0|d st|mostjt the wise thing to do and most people is learn people do this is they learn from know, don't from what you know, they don't become and use that as become a victim and use that as an to behave badly. an excuse to behave badly. they use inspiration say, use it as inspiration to say, you through this, you know, i went through this, i didn't experience. didn't enjoy the experience. i'm going for example, going to use it. for example, i'll father. i'm going i'll be a good father. i'm going to really good father to my to be a really good father to my kids father as a as kids because my father as a as a child horrible. don't child was horrible. i don't think that aren't think the fact that there aren't youth sunday services, youth clubs or sunday services, i bs. i think it's absolute bs. >> not silver bullet. >> it's not a silver bullet. >> it's not a silver bullet. >> not a silver >> yeah, it's not a silver bullet, but that is part of it. yeah, it's easier yeah, but you know, it's easier said because a lot said than done because a lot of these don't have, these kids don't have, the stability the family stability of the family that perhaps all of us did have. >> and that's why i didn't have a stable family growing up. >> but were they a good family?

do they sort of. >> you would you would. i'm absolute value. i'm absolutely not ever going to go into detail about childhood growing up, about my childhood growing up, because will blow your because it will blow your mind. but stable ? no. but i was it stable? no. absolutely right. >> absolutely stable. >> absolutely stable. >> but i'm not. i'm not a wrong'un some people. >> no, you're not wrong. no, you're not wrong. but then you were lucky and fortunate. i have to say. or maybe you're in an environment influence environment where the influence of the other kids and their families that positive families had that positive influence on you, that what influence on you, so that what your family , you know, sort of your family, you know, sort of how you were brought up was kind of just in the shade of the way that the others were brought up, because i do think that's a huge part it's your immediate part of it. it's your immediate environment. when you talk environment. so when you talk about looking for about kids looking for inspiration of saying, inspiration and sort of saying, i'm not going to do this, i'm going to learn by the mistakes of my parents or whatever. if you're in an environment like a sink out sink estate, you can't see out of it. yeah, you're in a black hole, and that's why it's so

hard. and that's why we do need to kind of draw together, give them something to make them or help them aspire to things that they can see the goodness and they can see the goodness and the not learned. it's learned behaviour a lot of this i get actually, i had a very loving and decent mother growing up, so i maybe attribute a lot of things to her. >> but kai, do you reckon, in terms of all these youngsters running around and, you know, pulling knives on each other? yeah. do we to maybe start yeah. do we need to maybe start sunday schools or something like that, as you've alluded to or i reckon, which is an better reckon, which is an even better idea, national service, two years of it. >> i don't think it's a bad idea. i mean, but as we were saying, there's all sorts of different things that will allow kids pull themselves get different things that will allow kidsof pull themselves get different things that will allow kidsof fsituation selves get different things that will allow kidsof fsituation that s get different things that will allow kidsof fsituation that you get different things that will allow kidsof fsituation that you know out of a situation that you know isn't good for them, right? whether youth centres, whether it's youth centres, church, sports, music. i mean, all of those things are part of it, right? but i do think we need to really refocus on what are those avenues to get kids

out of trouble to keep them socialising. i mean, you know, after the covid pandemic, when they were completely unsocialised and now, you know, you hear from teachers that kids are feral , right? screens don't are feral, right? screens don't help, phones don't help. i mean, all of this needs to be solved in some way. and i think that, yes, churches sort of are children's services part children's services are part of the know, the answer. but, you know, anything out of that anything to get kids out of that those is to be, those circumstances is to be, recommended . recommended. >> also, nothing really works in britain these days. i do feel sorry young people . they sorry for young people. they can't get houses. they're not having of that, having families because of that, you , future does look you know, the future does look a bit bleak. but my point is, without or without being too religious or preachy, jesus on this easter weekend lessons. weekend had some good lessons. so take heed so maybe let's try and take heed of coming up, of them. right? coming up, britain is in the thick of a devastating knife crime epidemic. as we've just been discussing. earth did epidemic. as we've just been disigeting. earth did epidemic. as we've just been disiget into earth did epidemic. as we've just been disiget into the earth did epidemic. as we've just been disiget into the situation rth did epidemic. as we've just been disiget into the situation andiid we get into the situation and how do we escape it? i'm going to be joined by anti—knife crime campaigner to, to get to the

bottom of it, whose brother in law murdered by a law was actually murdered by a knifeman. i'm asking knifeman. and also, i'm asking change of gear. was michael jackson innocent of the accusations i'll accusations thrown at him? i'll explain in tick. explain more in just a tick. stay with me.

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>> is ramadan more popular than easter? that's the question. is it for patrick to delve deep into been into tonight? i've just been getting this easter getting stuck into this easter egg. someone's me egg. i know someone's email me saying eat saying that you shouldn't eat easter eggs until sunday night, but here i am. i told you, i wasn't a very strict christian. anyway, move on, britain of anyway, we move on, britain of course, as we know it's in the grip of a knife crime epidemic. people on people are getting stabbed on pubuc public transport, kids being caught zombie . caught with massive zombie. zombie knives, and really, that kind of stuff doesn't raise eyebrows anymore. so shocking stats from ons. the office stats from the ons. the office for national statistics say that knife rose full 5% knife crime rose by a full 5% last year, ben kinsella last year, with the ben kinsella trust police recorded trust reporting police recorded offences trust reporting police recorded offencinstrument went up by sharp instrument went up by a staggering get this 78. in the ten years leading up to june 2023. so what's gone wrong in our society to lead to such a tragic situation? how many more people need to die before proper action is taken? and crucially,

who . on earth is to blame? with who. on earth is to blame? with me now is anti—knife crime campaigner and the founder of wickers charity, henry smith. good henry. thank you good evening henry. thank you for joining us, let's let's try forjoining us, let's let's try and cover the simple questions first. who's to blame for this absolute meteoric rise in knife crime ? crime? >> i think you've got to start. it's to start from it's got to start from the communities, not blaming the communities. communities, not blaming the conto unities. communities, not blaming the conto start s. communities, not blaming the conto start the communities got to start the communities have got to understand that there's a problem . and i think there's a problem. and i think we've got to go back to like we were in literally in my day where we had social clubs where you people not you mix people so they're not strangers. this cold strangers. where this post cold war, we're literally young people cannot cross road . people cannot cross the road. you know, that's what we've got to do, you can take all the knives off the street, and you're never going to take the knives off the street. >> henry, ask you don't >> henry, can i ask if you don't mind? in law was mind? your brother in law was murdered by a knifeman. what happened? how long ago was it? >> well, that was a that was, best 40 years you best part of 40 years ago. you know, that a tragic know, yeah, that was a tragic incident, know , that was

incident, you know, that was a 23 year old man who had one child. wife, my sister child. his wife, my sister had another child on the way. so this resonates with me . and as this resonates with me. and as you say, we've just seen escalate every year. it seems to get worse and worse. >> i'm not sure if you caught my big opinion a few minutes ago, but i was basically saying maybe society adopt society needs to adopt more. certainly religious certainly not a religious doctrine, but certainly some of the values maybe of jesus and i mentioned jesus because it's, you know, it's easter weekend. do think we've kind of do you think that we've kind of become of a godless become a bit of a godless society ? society? >> i think we've come a godless society, without a doubt , society, without a doubt, haven't we? it's sad. it really is, isn't it? there seems to be no values and no values instilled in a lot of young people, is their their attitude. and i think it's upon us to sort of change that if we can. >> and honestly, to solve this problem for me, i'm probably sounding very ignorant here, but why don't we just have a zero tolerance approach to carrying knives 20 years? if you get

caughtin knives 20 years? if you get caught in possession, no questions asked, you're in the banger. bangen >> well, let's just start with the country only has 500 cells available . okay? i mean, available anyway. okay? i mean, but what you're saying is you're going to send young people that might have made a mistake to prison, that they might end up lifetime criminals. starts lifetime criminals. she starts off with a four month sentence, but the discretion of but that's at the discretion of a an under 16 year a court for an under 16 year old, i think it's less than 12% that goes to court that actually goes to court after six months. very after 16. it's six months. very few want first offence few people want to first offence ever to prison . but if ever get sent to prison. but if you wind the clock back, what we want to do is to stop them going to prison by doing what we do. for instance, we go into schools, we actually talk to them . we show them, you know, them. we show them, you know, literally real pictures of people that have been stabbed with, you know, pond where they've been healthy. and we explain there is no gain they've been healthy. and we ex actually there is no gain they've been healthy. and we ex actually carrying re is no gain they've been healthy. and we ex actually carrying a is no gain they've been healthy. and we ex actually carrying a knife. gain in actually carrying a knife. and it's what we do as well. quite well. we take police with us, but these police are not

dressed as policemen. so people, young children are very relaxed when they somebody when they see somebody like yourself suit in a, in a yourself in a suit in a, in a jacket. and it's only after that literally they've had an hour that we say, and this is a policeman because we need these youngsters not afraid of youngsters to not be afraid of police. need them to able police. we need them to be able to up and chat to them to walk up to and chat to them and understand they and understand that they are there course, there for them. but of course, there for them. but of course, the is not on the street the bobby is not on the street anymore. is he okay? >> well , let's anymore. is he okay? >> well, let's bring in our panel >> well, let's bring in our panel. kai wiltshire and ingrid tarrant, kai have . you ever. tarrant, kai have. you ever. i say this in all seriousness because you live in london. have you ever been mugged at knifepoint or robbed? >> i haven't, but i constantly see, accounts on social media where yet more people are being robbed. i think i mean, yes, london has a specific issue here. we've been talking about that a great deal. but what strikes me about some of these ons statistics is just how many

urban areas as well are seeing huge increase in knife crime. so let's not pretend that it's just an issue or a london an urban issue or a london issue.i an urban issue or a london issue. i think this is much wider than that. we need to not be about what be too simplistic about what that , and because that that means, and because that will impact also what kind of solutions we can bring to the table . table. >> henry, is that the case? is it it sparring out to urban it is it sparring out to urban areas ? areas? >> it really is, isn't it? i mean, mean, i'm not saying mean, i mean, i'm not saying that they've stabbed anyone today, 300 children today today, but 300 children today running that running feral, you know, in that shopping centre it's going to escalate, what make >> yeah. what did you make of that? those images. 300 that? you saw those images. 300 odd of them running odd kids, scores of them running riot know there is riot because they know there is no for it , don't they? >> they know that they can get away with it. they watch . we are away with it. they watch. we are one of our things is we believe that social media really brings us to them, and it shows them that they can go into these supermarkets, they can go and steal and they just get away with it. i mean, there's no accountability. we have lost all law in this country. and it's a really sad thing .

really sad thing. >> is it any particular community or demographic of people who are committing knife crime or certainly more than others ? others? >> i mean, of course it's i mean , it's concentrated in london. yes. and you do have , for yes. and you do have, for instance, a lot of sort of ethnics as such that they're more inclined to do it. but it's not just stuck, it's not just those, i mean, it is a cross, but it is. it's more intense in ethnic communities. >> why is that ? >> why is that? >> why is that? >> well, why is well, there's a loaded question for you. i really can't answer. i think it's a concentration of poverty in various areas. it's a lot of it is also absent parents, you know, when you've not got a man in a house to like, we all had our fathers to show us, you know, the right way. the wrong way , it's very hard for a single way, it's very hard for a single parent, isn't it?

>> yeah. it's a big problem, especially in the black community. the, you know, absent fathers, which, you know, growing up, i've got two boys myself and i. any excuse to bnng myself and i. any excuse to bring them up on gb news, i always but, know, i'm always do, but, you know, i'm always do, but, you know, i'm always trying to make sure i'm there for them. i'm setting an example for them. and i think you also need that that male presence and the female presence. i think it's quite important if you can. i know things wrong, you can, things go wrong, but if you can, to have that, you know, the mum and to have that, you know, the mum ancwell at the weakest charity, >> well at the weakest charity, that's literally that's what we do. we literally mentor them. we our arms mentor them. we put our arms around we give them around them and we give them that and that absent parent. and we also have actually ex—offenders, which are excellent. and actually town and actually these children town and they about life in a cell actually these children town and theyyou about life in a cell actually these children town and theyyou know1t life in a cell actually these children town and theyyou know , life in a cell actually these children town and theyyou know , fortunately.l actually these children town and theyyou know , fortunately i and you know, fortunately i haven't experienced it myself, but could very but it could be very uncomfortable from what they tell me and what i've heard. and it these it does make these these youngsters think , but youngsters stop and think, but we need to be doing a lot more of this. >> ingrid, do you feel do you took the train here today, didn't you? >> no, i drove you drove. >> no, i drove you drove. >> okay. do you do you take pubuc >> okay. do you do you take public transport? yes do

public transport? yes i do. do you safe on public transport? >> i do, that sounds terribly arrogant, i don't know. arrogant, but i don't know. perhaps there's safety in numbers. it's a kind of strange thing. safer a tube thing. i'd feel safer on a tube in course you get. in london. of course you get. you hear these things where somebody goes absolutely kind of like on the train, but like nuts on the train, but i live, sort of in the countryside. and as the train empties , i feel a little bit empties, i feel a little bit more vulnerable because there's less people around. and i know this sounds really , kind of this sounds really, kind of arrogant, but. and perhaps i'm hoping too much, but i just feel that if there's a lot of people around, somebody will come to help. >> well, you say that, but the amount videos i've seen, amount of videos i've seen, henry of people mainly from america, actually, but people getting attacked or being picked on mugged and people sit on or mugged and people just sit in carriage or on in their tube carriage or on their bus, they put their heads down, they ignore it, and they just let people get on with it. because, you know what? there was a case in one guy, henry, you might have seen in new york, a marine, choke

a former marine, he choke held a guy who was threatening kill guy who was threatening to kill two passengers. metro passengers . he's now up a murder . he's now up on a murder charge. when you feel like . he's now up on a murder cha state when you feel like . he's now up on a murder cha state hasn't| you feel like . he's now up on a murder cha state hasn't got] feel like . he's now up on a murder cha state hasn't got your like . he's now up on a murder cha state hasn't got your back the state hasn't got your back and you're going to get done in for helping can kind of for helping out, i can kind of understand why other people wouldn't get involved in that kind of situation. >> i actually people >> well, i actually think people on are afraid, on the tube and they are afraid, you that that , you know, it's that it's that, flight or flight, isn't it? >> it's one of those things that you're going to do. and sadly, most people are just going to flee. >> okay. thank you all so much. riveting debate. coming up next, though, going to change though, we're going to change gears to one of my absolute legends and heroes , the legends and heroes, the anticipated mj the musical has hit the west end, and it's celebrating the legacy, of course, of michael jackson. it premiered last night, but critics in including friend of the channel benjamin butterworth, they've asked if lauding . king of pop accused lauding the. king of pop accused and

gb news. welcome back. it's 836. you're with ben leo on friday night live in for mr mark dolan. so this week, it was a big one in the west end with the opening of mj. the musical, which paid tribute to bangers like this . tribute to bangers like this. you okay? annie, are you okay? >> are you okay? you've been hit by. you've been hit by a smooth criminal. i >> what a tune. and it's definitely starting something wink, wink with many asking if we should celebrate the legacy of michael jackson, who, as we all know, was accused of child sex abuse in yester year. one such complainant was our dear friend butterworth, to friend benjamin butterworth, to which out that, which i pointed out that, crucially, found crucially, michael was found innocent charges. and

innocent of all charges. and there's saying there's his tweet there saying that a hideous that the musical was a hideous inqu that the musical was a hideous insult of michael insult to the victims of michael jackson, comparing him jackson, and even comparing him to jimmy or gary glitter. to jimmy savile or gary glitter. we talk we know he likes to talk nonsense. our benjamin. the evening the evening standard reviewed the show , which opened on broadway show, which opened on broadway in quote, ravishing in 2022, as a, quote, ravishing spectacle if you ignore the elephant room. i'm elephant in the room. so i'm asking should musical asking you, should the musical stay it? let's discuss stay or beat it? let's discuss this now with my friday friends tv personality ingrid sharon and political commentator kai willsher kai. are you a mj fan? >> look, i love his music, but at some point you have to reckon with the fact that some of our heroes are imperfect , right? heroes are imperfect, right? i mean, benjamin makes a great point and i totally agree , point and i totally agree, comparing him to savile. savile was never charged . and yeah, but was never charged. and yeah, but he's similarly he verified he's similarly he was verified and provable monster. >> michael jackson went to court . he was found innocent of all charges in a very thorough and extensive investigation . even extensive investigation. even the fbi have probed him. you know, he's he's he's got no case.i know, he's he's he's got no case. i mean, he's dead now. of course he's got no case to

answer. but he had no case to answer. but he had no case to answer. inevitably , his answer. look, inevitably, his cultural is going to continue. >> not hearing the of >> we're not hearing the last of michael but >> we're not hearing the last of mich be but >> we're not hearing the last of mich be real. but let's be real. >> of your ilk . we're >> people of your ilk. we're trying to get him cancelled from the west end. >> so me the west end. >> a few so me give the west end. >> a few facts. me give the west end. >> a few facts. hisie give the west end. >> a few facts. his older give you a few facts. his older sister, called him a paedophile. a documentary showed him holding hands with a 12 year old and talking about sleepovers with minors. >> okay, let's stay on that point. was that the martin bashir documentary? yes. martin bashir, by the way, a very upstanding journalist who definitely wasn't involved in any doesn't any controversy, doesn't princess diana, let show you princess diana, let me show you a martin bashir a quick clip of martin bashir and michael jackson in this clip. explains. you'll see clip. okay? explains. you'll see it in a second, but let me just give some context. he's talking about how he was in a recording studio as a kid. he looked out through window and cried through the window and cried tears sadness because tears of sadness because he saw other playing park, other kids playing in the park, which take which he couldn't do. let's take a at it. a quick look at it. >> e except after c, >> i before e except after c, i remember precisely going to motown studios to record . right motown studios to record. right across the street from the studio was a park , and i could

studio was a park, and i could hear the roar of the, you know, the little league team , and they the little league team, and they were playing soccer and football and volleyball, and they were playing baseball. and volleyball, and they were playing baseball . and i remember playing baseball. and i remember a lot of the times looking back and really hiding my face, crying , god and really hiding my face, crying, god bless and really hiding my face, crying , god bless the and really hiding my face, crying, god bless the man, ingrid. >> does that explain the fact that, yes, of course, michael jackson was a very disturbed gentleman, but in my opinion, he wasn't a paedophile . wasn't a paedophile. >> i'm exactly on the same page as you . i have to say. sorry, as you. i have to say. sorry, kai. he had he had a deprived childhood . his father was very, childhood. his father was very, very strict. he was. he was a bully. he was. he worked them to the absolute bone. i think with their first hit, i think michael jackson was ten years old. might have been eight, but he was thereabouts . so he didn't have a thereabouts. so he didn't have a normal childhood at all. and actually, i think because of that , because he was

actually, i think because of that, because he was propelled into this very adult world, business world, it was a kind of reclaiming or he never really grew up. he was, emotionally immature, let's call it that way . and holding hands with these boys and everything , i don't see boys and everything, i don't see that doesn't mean you're a paedophile. lots of people do that. >> and my point has always been, kai, what kind of monster would go television and sit there go on television and sit there and say, with such glee and innocence that he likes sharing beds with children because, you know, he likes sleepovers and milk and cookies. i mean, he sounds like a kid himself, but what monster had what kind of monster who had sinister would on sinister intentions would go on tv ? tv and do that? >> are we to know? >> well, how are we to know? how were know was going were we to know what was going on mind? right. and i'm on in his mind? right. and i'm not people will on in his mind? right. and i'm not this people will on in his mind? right. and i'm not this musical. eople will on in his mind? right. and i'm not this musical. i ple will on in his mind? right. and i'm not this musical. i don'till enjoy this musical. i don't think we should but think we should ban it, but i don't have to like it. i think it's butterworth wants it banned. >> well, you don't agree with that. >> look, look . we're not of one,

>> look, look. we're not of one, mind me and benjamin, we're different people. well viewers reckon you're you're more woker than benjamin, which is something that's quite an accolade, i mean, other accolade, i mean, the other problem course, is problem with this, of course, is that allegations , that all of these allegations, whether or not you believe them, whether or not you believe them, whether or not they were proven true not, the fact is you'd true or not, the fact is you'd be none the wiser if you saw this musical. because as that review an elephant review shows, it's an elephant in the room. discussed, in the room. it's not discussed, it's with. it's not reckoned with. >> how all >> i mean, how is that all about? whitewashing of about? it's this whitewashing of his reputation. >> musical, therefore his reputation. >> music. musical, therefore his reputation. >> music. it'ssical, therefore his reputation. >> music. it's not l, therefore his reputation. >> music. it's notl, biopic re the music. it's not a biopic type can't separate the >> it's we can't separate the art the because you shouldn't. >> i don't think it's fair to taint an already tainted name. just concentrate on the music, because that's what people are, up about . and actually sort of up about. and actually sort of benjamin, who i have a huge amount of respect for. actually, i don't agree with him at all, but he can't liken it with jemmy sadiq khan. you said he wasn't proven guilty, but the thing was, everybody knew he was guilty. they just kept quiet

about it, which absolutely about it, which was absolutely horrendous. gary horrendous. and of course, gary glitter was. and he's done time for well. and so you for it as well. and so you can't. the fact is he wasn't proven guilty. and i think that's enough. and therefore don't bring that into it at all because that's not what this is all about. i think. i can't wait to go and see it. >> i'll be well. >> i'll be well. >> i'll be well. >> i won't be joining you, if that's all right. i just think it's very convenient, isn't it, that people are big of that people who are big fans of ”u that people who are big fans of mj twisting in mj are twisting themselves in knots to just defy, knots trying to just defy, justify myself in knots ? justify myself in knots? >> i didn't finish myself knots. in actual fact, i was really cunous in actual fact, i was really curious and i'm a very open minded person. i'm not going to be persuaded or biased just because i'm a great his. because i'm a great fan of his. but when i looked at that documentary, honestly, i felt that the boys were discrediting themselves more and more and more, and particularly the mothers, because look what they got from it . and why did they got from it. and why did they keep sending them back there? and apparently , anyway, it's not and apparently, anyway, it's not

sharing room because room sharing a room because his room is that's what is on three floors. that's what i've heard . yeah. i've heard. yeah. >> i just i i've heard. yeah. >> ijust i really just i've heard. yeah. >> i just i really just don't think someone who had such sinister intentions would go and sit martin bashir and talk sit with martin bashir and talk about having milk and cookies and sleepovers with with young lads. he was obviously a very disturbed individual, like he was a weirdo. let's be frank, i love him. i think his music is great and actually this sounds a bit woo woo, but i don't think you that pure if you can make music that pure if you've a dark heart. you've got such a dark heart. but say, spoke but others would say, i spoke to someone earlier. said, someone earlier. they said, well, you know, well, maybe people, you know, paedophiles , maybe paedophiles are abusers, maybe they they're doing they don't think they're doing anything wrong and they're acting, , that is their acting, you know, that is their normal, but knows . normal, you know, but who knows. anyway, fascinating discussion. i'm certainly going to go to the west end to see it, and i'm going to keep playing those mj bangers on phone as well. bangers on my phone as well. although i haven't heard many michael jackson tunes on the radio has. radio recently, so maybe he has. >> another thing. >> oh, that's another thing. >> oh, that's another thing. >> he was banned on from >> he was banned of on from every station until or every radio station until or dunng every radio station until or during the case, until he was

proven innocent. and then they played the music and everybody banned his music. >> you know, he did in recent years. i need to move but years. i need to move on. but in recent before he died, recent years, before he died, he was hollywood, exposing recent years, before he died, he waselites hollywood, exposing recent years, before he died, he waselites ihow wood, exposing recent years, before he died, he waselites ihowwood, (work.1g the elites and how things work. and unfortunately , he and then unfortunately, he he left mj, you. left us. but mj, i love you. some people don't beth mead doesn't. but yeah, we move on. right? coming up next as 300 kids go feral in milton keynes, storming a shopping centre and causing havoc, should parents be punished for the poor behaviour of talking of their children? i'm talking fines. maybe even prison. we're joined favourite joined by show favourite alexandra marshall in just a moment. with

us. i'm at risk of doing an ed miliband here by cracking on with these easter eggs during the breaks . just about got away the breaks. just about got away with that one. now, we've all heard of the saying letting your kids run riot. but this was taken to extremes yesterday . taken to extremes yesterday. when? and you've probably seen

this, army of this, a 300 strong army of children charged through milton keynes shopping centre shouting and screaming for no apparent reason. valley police reason. thames valley police issued a dispersal order following what they described as antisocial chaos. but the real reason, well, the question reason, well, the real question rather, is where were the parents? surely they have to take some responsibility for their children's behaviour ? what their children's behaviour? what do you think? should parents be punished for their kids behaviour ? should they be fined? behaviour? should they be fined? should prison? should they be sent to prison? should they be sent to prison? should their social should they have their social security online editor of joined now by online editor of the australia, the spectator australia, alexandra marshall. good evening. time alexandra marshall. good evitring. time alexandra marshall. good evit there, time alexandra marshall. good evit there, alexandra? time is it there, alexandra? >> way too early on a saturday morning. but it's a pleasure to be here with you today . be here with you today. >> thank you. really appreciate it. so what is the it. so look, what is the solution this what people solution to this what people are calling should solution to this what people are cal start should solution to this what people are cal start finding should solution to this what people are cal start finding parents should solution to this what people are cal start finding parents forould solution to this what people are cal start finding parents for thei we start finding parents for the way their kids behave ? way their kids behave? >> well, it's an interesting question because although that looks really bad would happen in the have problems like the uk, we have problems like this in australia, but dial it up where young up to a thousand where young kids juveniles in remote

kids and juveniles in remote areas running around areas are running around towns with and axes and with tomahawks and axes and spears and, you know, breaking into people's homes. it's a real disaster here. so we've been asking this question for a while in australia. we've come down to a of points. if a couple of points. one, if you're asylum seeker you're here as an asylum seeker and kids are running wild and your kids are running wild and your kids are running wild and causing chaos, then yes, we think be a violation think that should be a violation and the family should be punished for if you're punished for that. if you're failing to send your children to school on regular basis, which school on a regular basis, which is remote is happening in remote communities , there is a general communities, there is a general feeling a failure feeling that that is a failure of parents should of parents, and parents should be kind not be punished for that kind of not raising children raising your children to the standard everybody standard that everybody else is being this case, being told to. but in this case, i think the children need to be punished themselves. otherwise they will not learn a lesson here. significant here. so my take is significant community service. so maybe 100 hours they must complete. hours each. they must complete. otherwise there will be further punishments guarantee punishments because i guarantee you the kids will not enjoy community service. and that is the most likely thing to stop them from behaving like that again. >> yeah, stick him in the army national service. alexandra,

national service. but alexandra, the over here. the the problem is over here. the kids kids aren't afraid the problem is over here. the ki(prison. kids aren't afraid the problem is over here. the ki(prison. they'rearen't afraid the problem is over here. the ki(prison. they're .en't afraid the problem is over here. the ki(prison. they're . not afraid of prison. they're. not afraid of prison. they're. not afraid of their parents. they're not afraid of teachers. they look at the police . and, you know, i the police. and, you know, i agree with them, actually. they look at the police. and most of the time, they're just a laughing stock. i remember when i was a kid, you saw a police officer and, you know, you knew things were getting serious, but there's just no respect in any walk life now for these walk of life now for these youngsters . youngsters. >> i argue that's because >> i would argue that's because there's for their there's no punishment for their bad if bad behaviour. so perhaps if they show up for they actually had to show up for some and some of these punishments and did the real did actually have the real threat a criminal threat of either a criminal record don't or record if they don't show up or some kind additional some kind of additional punishment, to punishment, like being forced to join army year after join the army for a year after they leave or something they leave school or something like would start they leave school or something likrespect would start they leave school or something likrespect the would start they leave school or something likrespect the police.'ould start they leave school or something likrespect the police. atld start they leave school or something likrespect the police. at the tart to respect the police. at the moment to us where is not problem to us where crime is not policed. they're given a slap on the let go, you the wrist and let go, and so you can't fix that by punishing parents they won't can't fix that by punishing parentstheir they won't can't fix that by punishing parentstheir kidsthey won't can't fix that by punishing parentstheir kidsthey chft punish their kids either. if anything, it anything, they might make it worse. and i'm very cautious

about for about punishing other people for the crimes that they're not related rather see related to. i would rather see people the people who actually commit the crime kind service people who actually commit the crimpunishmentind service people who actually commit the crimpunishment soi service people who actually commit the crimpunishment so that ervice people who actually commit the crimpunishment so that theya and punishment so that they learn the lesson, otherwise they won't. they'll just resent their parents run away and keep being criminals. >> yeah, i just don't think prison and the like over this side of the pond is, is much of a deterrent to butlins or pontins, you know , let me bring pontins, you know, let me bring in my pain of something. pontins, you know, let me bring in my pain of something . let me in my pain of something. let me bnngin in my pain of something. let me bring in my friday friends, ingrid, taryn and kai. wiltshire. ingrid, what should we do? should we find for , we do? should we find for, parents naughty kids? >> it won't work. probably they haven't got any money in the first place. so how do you do that? some might be able to afford the fine, others won't . afford the fine, others won't. >> so therefore, you've got their know, i. i their benefits, you know, i. i don't know if that's a solution .

don't know if that's a solution. then you've got to claim it. how are you going to do that? yes, you could dock it from the benefits, but then it'll be human then they benefits, but then it'll be humarhave then they benefits, but then it'll be humarhave children|ey and might have other children in and they from having they suffer from, from having less so they can't feed less money. so they can't feed them, problem. them, it's a huge, huge problem. the of course, the problem as well, of course, is that if they're under 16, there's very little they can do , there's very little they can do, if a punishment, we aren't punishing them hard enough. you're absolutely right. it's sort of like easy street, but they don't get to prison in any case, because if it's a sentence that's six months or under, 12 months, even months, i believe, perhaps even two it's a suspended two years, it's a suspended sentence . all the prisons are sentence. all the prisons are full. even bigger crimes. i full. so even bigger crimes. i don't know how bad this was. >> let me bring in kai. our bad kids, always the result of bad parents. >> not always. it's as always a combination of different things. but i think parents are definitely partly responsible. but i totally agree that we can't be punishing parents for the sins of the child, right? that's so reductive. and i don't think prison the answer think that prison is the answer ehhen think that prison is the answer either. let alone the think that prison is the answer eithe £46,000 let alone the think that prison is the answer eithe £46,000 peret alone the think that prison is the answer eithe £46,000 per prison.a the cost. £46,000 per prison. >> to up

>> we're just going to end up like francisco, crime like san francisco, a crime fidden like san francisco, a crime ridden hellhole. alexandra. last word you, rac? ridden hellhole. alexandra. last wori you, rac? ridden hellhole. alexandra. last wori yorsaid c? ridden hellhole. alexandra. last wori yorsaid prison. i said i >> i never said prison. i said i said community make >> i never said prison. i said i said (do munity make >> i never said prison. i said i said (do things make >> i never said prison. i said i said (do things they make >> i never said prison. i said i said (do things they don't ake >> i never said prison. i said i said (do things they don't want them do things they don't want to do, like up parks, pick to do, like clean up parks, pick up mow lawns, kind up rubbish, mow lawns, that kind of beneficial of thing that's beneficial to community. a community. or if it's such a large problem, up large reaching problem, set up the them some the camps to get them some military training, some discipline, take out of military training, some dis(environmentake out of military training, some dis(environment that's out of military training, some dis(environment that's causingf the environment that's causing them to be so badly behaved. >> agreed. >> agreed. >> i spent some time in san francisco last year. it is an absolute crime ridden hellhole. there's no consequences for anyone's are, anyone's actions. people are, you and for you know, go and see for yourself to yourself. it's a sight to behold, that's from behold, right? that's all from me coming up. it's me tonight. coming up. it's patrick christys. he's got a cracking show in store. patrick, what's on the agenda? great stuff. thank you very, very much. stuff. thank you very, very mu well, got an interview >> well, i've got an interview with immigration minister with former immigration minister robert jenrick. it's no holds barred. he talks very openly about sexual assault taking place amongst asylum seekers, an issue really issue that we've been really trying to raise here on gb news. he also appears to suggest, anyway, that rishi sunak never cared immigration. cared about mass immigration. nigel farage has got an exclusive message to rishi sunak as well. there was of some

as well. there was talk of some deal being done between the tories and nigel. well, nigel's got that message queers for got that message and queers for palestine to boycott palestine wants us to boycott your revision. oh, and there is an update on the king's health. all to play for tonight. >> excellent. can't and >> excellent. can't wait and really that really excited for that interview jenrick. interview with robert jenrick. right. from mark interview with robert jenrick. right. is from mark interview with robert jenrick. right. is back from mark interview with robert jenrick. right. is back onfrom mark interview with robert jenrick. right. is back on monday. mark interview with robert jenrick. right. is back on monday. thank dolan is back on monday. thank you so much for you. the viewers watching on this bank holiday weekend, ingrid kyle weekend, ingrid tarrant, kyle wiltshire despite the wiltshire despite being the wokeist as wokeist man in britain, as i said back next week. i'm said mark is back next week. i'm back morning myself said mark is back next week. i'm ba

some rain at times. it's all courtesy of this area of low pressure, which is going to hang around as we go through the next few but with winds coming around as we go through the next fevifrom but with winds coming around as we go through the next fevifrom the it with winds coming around as we go through the next fevifrom the south,winds coming around as we go through the next fevifrom the south, itnds coming around as we go through the next fevifrom the south, it should ning up from the south, it should feel a little less cold. so feel a little bit less cold. so as end good friday, the as we end good friday, still the risk showers risk of some showers across parts scotland, northern parts of scotland, northern ireland, maybe western fringes parts of scotland, northern ire england|ybe western fringes parts of scotland, northern ireengland|ybe wales,1 fringes parts of scotland, northern ireengland|ybe wales, but1ges of england and wales, but elsewhere . turning clear with elsewhere. turning clear with the risk of a few misty patches forming, come dawn, and also a touch of frost in the countryside. so we do start saturday off on a bit of a chilly note, but sunshine chilly note, but some sunshine from the word go. risk of a little and patchy little bit of cloud and patchy rain the far rain just reaching the very far east england main east of england and the main focus of any showers tomorrow will be again more will be again across more western northern of western and northern parts of the should be the country, but there should be a fewer and further a little bit fewer and further between today . so between compared to today. so temperature the temperature wise in the sunshine. bad. sunshine. not feeling too bad. highs around 14 or 15 highs reaching around 14 or 15 degrees. having a look at easter day. a bit of a cloudy start across many . eastern parts, but

across many. eastern parts, but that will burn its way back towards the north sea. so for many again, it's another day of some sunny spells. risk of a few showers, potentially a little bit in the way of bit more in the way of persistent arriving persistent rain just arriving in the south western the very far south western corner. that sets us up for corner. and that sets us up for a bit of a north south split on monday. rather grey and wet in the south, but hanging on to

gb news. >> it's 9 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. >> well, i didn't feel that the prime minister understood the importance of legal migration . importance of legal migration. >> in a tv exclusive with former immigration minister robert jenrick, where he also discusses sexual assaults taking place in migrant hotels. >> did see some very concerning incidents. for example, at the asylum hotels, individuals committing sexual assault.

>> that's not to be missed. also calocane la follette eamonn of gb news find out why queers for palestine want us to boycott eurovision . is it ever okay for eurovision. is it ever okay for parents to smack their kids to teach them discipline? free to one. it's ramadan now , more one. it's ramadan now, more popular than easter on my panel tonight it is apprentice finalist. joana jarjue. i've got commentator alex armstrong and itv political chief john sergeant. oh, i'll show you what led up to this. sergeant. oh, i'll show you what led up to this . oh, no. get led up to this. oh, no. get ready. britain here we go