not to be missed. also >> that's not to be missed. also calocane la follette eamonn of gb news find out why queers for palestine want us to boycott eurovision . is it ever okay for eurovision. is it ever okay for parents to smack their kids to teach them discipline? free to one. it's ramadan now , more one. it's ramadan now, more popular than easter on my panel tonight it is apprentice finalist. joana jarjue. i've got commentator alex armstrong and itv political chief john sergeant. oh, i'll show you what led up to this. sergeant. oh, i'll show you what led up to this . oh, no. get led up to this. oh, no. get ready. britain here we go.

nigel farage has asked me to . nigel farage has asked me to. relay a message to rishi sunak next. >> patrick, thank you very much. and good evening from the gb newsrooms . just gone 9:00 and newsrooms. just gone 9:00 and i want to start some news want to start with some news that out of that we're getting out of wimbledon london wimbledon in south london tonight, journalist tonight, where a journalist working for the iran international network is recovering after being stabbed outside of his london home. we understand that attack took place at some point this afternoon. police and paramedics responded to the scene and the victim believed to be in his 30s, is now in a stable condition. police though, aren't sure at this stage. they say what motivated that attack. however, because victim's however, because of the victim's role a journalist at the role as a journalist at the iranian network based here in the uk, we understand that incident is being investigated

by specialist counter—terrorism officers, though no arrests have been made so far. in other news, the new leader of the democratic unionist party has described the charges of serious historical sex offences against sir jeffrey donaldson, as he says , donaldson, as he says, devastating. donaldson quit as leader earlier and has been suspended from the dup pending the outcome of the legal process comes just after last month he brought back the group into power sharing. gavin robinson has been appointed as the interim leader after being made aware of the allegations late last night. >> things caused tremendous shock, not for just >> things caused tremendous shock, not forjust myself shock, not for just myself personally or my colleagues within the dup, but for the community right across northern ireland. it came as a great shock, but we are a party and individuals that believe in justice. we have faith in our criminal justice system and so in the coming days and months, i think it is important that none of us say anything or act in any

way that would seek to prejudice what is now an ongoing criminal investigation . investigation. >> rishi sunak is tonight facing criticism for awarding a major conservative donor a knighthood as part of a controversial honours list. sir mohamed mansour gave £5 million to the tories last year and was knighted for what's described as services to business, to charity and politics. labour, though, have condemned as they have condemned the award as they say, an arrogant act of an entitled man, adding that donations shouldn't be an automatic pass to honours . automatic pass to honours. police are appealing for help in their search for a man suspected of raping two women in london. the attacks took place four years apart, first in westminster in 2018, followed by another incident in shoreditch in 2022. those offences were being investigated as separate crimes. the forensic work has helped to draw a link between them. detectives say it's highly likely the suspect has also committed attacks . the committed other attacks. the metropolitan force has released

this e—fit image here. you can see if you're watching on television, and they're asking anyone who may have information television, and they're asking ancontact|o may have information television, and they're asking an contact police have information television, and they're asking ancontact police or ve information television, and they're asking an contact police or ve call'mation to contact police or to call crime stoppers. and finally, before we head back to patrick. the uk's eurovision entry, olly alexander, has rejected calls to withdraw from the song contest. issuing a joint statement signed by eight other contestants, more than 450 artists and organisations are among a group calling itself queers for palestine. they signed an open letter demanding the years and years singer to pull out of the competition in protest over the inclusion israel, but in inclusion of israel, but in response, olly alexander said that while he supports a full ceasefire in gaza boycotting the contest, he says , would not help contest, he says, would not help achieve that goal. that collective reply was signed by artists representing eight participating countries , participating countries, including northern ireland, norway, portugal and finland . norway, portugal and finland. those are the headlines. i'll be back in the next hour. you can. in the meantime, sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to gb news.

com slash alerts. now though, it's to . patrick. it's back to. patrick. >> good evening. prime minister rishi sunak hasn't just given up, he's already moved on. here is tory mp danny kruger being caught on tape saying what everybody is thinking. >> i think that the obstacles conservatism is the conservative party and i of what party and i kind of get what they're saying , though, sort of they're saying, though, sort of disruptive force. i think it would a tragedy if they did would be a tragedy if they did end up replacing us. their end up replacing us. but their general of what's general critique of what's wrong, is mostly valid. wrong, i think, is mostly valid. yes obviously a little bit muffled that. >> but he raises the issue that he thinks that reform could replace the tories and also he says that they are bang on the money when it comes to the key issues. well, the reform party issues. well, the reform party is now beating the tories with working class voters in the north, and level with them north, and it's level with them in the midlands as well. and they're neck, they're neck and neck, apparently the 50 to 64 apparently with the 50 to 64 year old age bracket. well, rishi sunak appears to be making

no attempt to win them back. he could have done something about legal immigration, but now it turns out that he never actually cared about it. here is what former immigration minister robert jenrick told me directly, trying to talk about legal immigration. and it was just batted away. >> yes. >> yes. >> you know, both suella and i wrote on a number of occasions , wrote on a number of occasions, often together, sometimes on our own. i wrote privately to the prime minister, setting out the case for reducing legal migration and we didn't routinely get responses . routinely get responses. >> so the former immigration minister there saying that the prime minister didn't want to discuss immigration in a conservative prime minister who doesn't care about rapid demographic change or preserving british culture. remarkable. both angela rayner and keir starmer are currently up for grabs . rayner over the old tax grabs. rayner over the old tax issue. starmer over the gaza

ceasefire though if he pushed, there is a chance that rishi could get rid of them both. but sunakis could get rid of them both. but sunak is refusing to do anything about that. well, he about that. why not? well, he obviously the obviously isn't up for the fight. he has decided that he wants banned wants to be the man who banned smoking more smoking and introduced more a—levels. who a—levels. is that a bloke who wants election or just wants to win an election or just look the dinner party look good on the dinner party circuit? conservative circuit? any conservative politicians hope circuit? any conservative polit rishi; hope circuit? any conservative polit rishi; develop )pe circuit? any conservative politrishi; develop an urge that rishi might develop an urge to buy nigel farage off and stop him from wiping the tories off the map by giving him a cushy job envoy to america . job as our envoy to america. that was doing the headlines earlier on. by the way, that was the rumour today. well, unfortunately, some unfortunately, i've got some bad news called nigel at news for you. i called nigel at about 4 pm. today and i asked him whether or not there was any chance of this happening. now, here is a direct quote for you. i am not for sale. if they wanted to do this, they should have done it in 2017. rishi is finished. the fact that they are thinking of doing this now shows what dreadful people they are. i don't taking the job,

don't think he's taking the job, don't think he's taking the job, do you? and today mr sunak handed honours to several ai and tech people, as well as apparently the netflix ceo. well, what does that tell you? >> so let's stick to the plan that if we stick to the plan, we can deliver a brighter future for everyone. >> we our for everyone. >> we and >> we stick to our plan, and if we stick plan, we can we stick to the plan, we can make sure that everyone has peace of mind, that there's a brighter future for them. and their family. stick to their family. but if we stick to their family. but if we stick to the know that we'll the plan, i know that we'll absolutely there deliver the plan, i know that we'll aibrighter there deliver the plan, i know that we'll aibrighter futureiere deliver the plan, i know that we'll aibrighter future for deliver the plan, i know that we'll aibrighter future for everyonefer a brighter future for everyone in country. in our country. >> tells you that he has >> yes, it tells you that he has got a plan, his plan is to got a plan, and his plan is to got a plan, and his plan is to go to california asap . go back to california asap. okay, let's get the thoughts of my tonight . it is my panel tonight. it is apprentice finalist and entrepreneur joana jarjue i've got political commentator alex armstrong, an ex itv and bbc political chief, john sergeant john, i'll start with you on this rishi sunak. i think he's chucked out, hasn't he. >> no, he hasn't though you've been a bit unfair on him. i think he's the kind of person, if you think about his career,

he'll does does he'll always does well, does well school, at well at school, does well at university , he does well in university, he does well in business and is managing and did manage to become quickly prime minister that's a man who stays to it and is very confident . to it and is very confident. he's not some old buffer that can be pushed aside. he's not that he's not that sort of age group. he's not that sort of person . so to imagine all you've person. so to imagine all you've got to do is to give him a bit of a this and a bit of that and he'll be gone is complete fantasy. reform fantasy. the idea that reform somehow becomes the conservative party is also a long way from reality. it's possible. in the end, they might do that . but end, they might do that. but remember, our first past the post is dead against them post system is dead against them in all sorts of ways. they're spread out across the country. it is. they don't have strong areas which they can guarantee they'll produce their mps like nigel farage knows this well enough. he's tried more than once and he knows the system will. in fact say, okay, you've

got 15% of the vote or even more of the vote, but you ain't got sps. >> i've just rattled off quite a few cases there where rishi sunak does not appear to be behaving like a man who particularly cares about being re—elected. >> i mean, it's pretty i >> i mean, it's pretty clear. i mean , he's been following elon mean, he's been following elon musk around the world last year. if you remember, he was at that summit with the italian president, minister, even. summit with the italian presit's|t, minister, even. summit with the italian presit's|t, obvious ster, even. summit with the italian pres it's|t, obvious ster, rishi and it's very obvious that rishi is man that's going to is not a man that's going to carry the conservative party into an election victory. look at his actions. you see reform polling the tories should polling where the tories should be winning on immigration, on the economy . he these are the economy. he these are traditional conservative values and he is not grasping them. and i think it's by choice, because if he does tackle them aggressively, which this does need aggressive measures to be to some resolution to them, to have some resolution to them, then never be allowed then he would never be allowed back on the tech scene ever again. probably like i won't ever be patrick. yeah, yeah, but that's it. >> working class tory >> so the working class tory voters of 2019 appear to have gone to reform . he's doing gone to reform. he's doing particularly badly in the north

and the midlands. also particularly badly in the north and atthe midlands. also particularly badly in the north and at the midlands. also particularly badly in the north and at the 50 lands. also particularly badly in the north and at the 50 tords. also particularly badly in the north and at the 50 tords. year also particularly badly in the north and at the 50 tords. year age look at the 50 to 64 year age bracket , and then i will have bracket, and then i will have this exclusive with robert jenrick later. he played you . jenrick later. he played you. a clip of it there. but joanna. yeah, he is there. the former immigration minister saying he was trying to talk to our current minister about current prime minister about immigration refusing. that's current prime minister about immigmann refusing. that's current prime minister about immigman who fusing. that's current prime minister about immigman who fusing. tiget not a man who wants to get re—elected, it? re—elected, is it? >> i think that, you know, >> well, i think that, you know, rishi sunak has tried to be fair to don't usually to him, and i don't usually defend when comes to defend him. but when it comes to even that actually defend him. but when it comes to even that that actually defend him. but when it comes to even that personallytually defend him. but when it comes to even that personallytualdoesn't think that personally he doesn't resonate with, like stopping the boats hard on boats and being really hard on immigration. has immigration. i think he has tried extent, but tried to an extent, but i completely with alex completely agree with alex in the that rishi to me the sense that rishi sunak to me is career is another tory career politician and he's thinking way ahead. about ahead. he's thinking about silicon and people who silicon valley and people who are in that kind of arena are quite liberal. and i think that, you know, he wants to be accepted those kind of accepted in those kind of circumstances. so i now circumstances. so i think now it's the point where it's got to the point where i tried my best. it looks as if i'm just going to kind of cut my losses actually think losses now and actually think about potentially about my future, potentially in america . america. >> and that actually is a

dereliction for britain, dereliction of duty for britain, john, isn't it? >> of course it is. >> well, no, of course it is. but think mistake but that's i think the mistake is that if he feels is to imagine that if he feels like that. yeah. he if he like that. yeah. if he if he thinks about i imagine like that. yeah. if he if he thinimuch about i imagine like that. yeah. if he if he thinimuch more�*ut i imagine like that. yeah. if he if he thinimuch more concerned|gine like that. yeah. if he if he thinimuch more concerned about he's much more concerned about day and what he's doing day to day and what he's doing a very intense what is he doing? >> what evidence is there for that? can just ask, have you that? can i just ask, have you got any you've got to got any evidence you've got to make this. make a guess about this. >> got sort of say, >> you've got to sort of say, how that man up the how does that man get up in the morning? work all morning? how does he work all day? actually what's morning? how does he work all dajon actually what's morning? how does he work all dajon his actually what's morning? how does he work all dajon his mind actually what's morning? how does he work all dajon his mind ?actually what's morning? how does he work all dajon his mind ? i'veilly what's morning? how does he work all dajon his mind ? i've observed; on on his mind? i've observed lots prime ministers the lots of prime ministers over the years. they do. they years. i know what they do. they get locked these aggressive get locked into these aggressive schedules . and the idea that he schedules. and the idea that he spends, you know, acres of time thinking, oh, and then i could go to california and i could do that. i bet he isn't. i bet he's thinking we'll that. thinking that we'll leave that. let's get on with let's see how we get on with this. success in exams and this. his success in exams and all the rest of it, if you look at his career, someone who's at his career, is someone who's got tremendous powers of concentration and who makes absolutely certain that he's not distracted by what ifs in months time, he doesn't know how you succeed. >> around around 63 conservative

mps. >> around around 63 conservative mp5. i >> around around 63 conservative mps. i think it is now saying that they're not going to stand for election again. we've had a couple of cabinet ministers this week saying that they're not going to stand again, we've had all sorts of issues taking place there with people throwing the towel in around him, and we've also like i was just saying there, got the former immigration minister saying he didn't immigration. and alex, about immigration. and alex, again . i just find that find again. i just find that find that quite bizarre, really. i mean, do you think his heart is really it? really in it? >> no. absolutely not. he's he's completely devoid any completely devoid of any ambition election. ambition to win this election. i mean, this you saying ambition to win this election. i me doesn't this you saying ambition to win this election. i me doesn't thisto you saying ambition to win this election. i medoesn't thisto yiwellying ambition to win this election. i me doesn't thisto yiwell in|g he doesn't want to do well in his because but but but but his job because but but but but if being we say this is if he's being if we say this is a who to win and he's a guy who likes to win and he's a guy who likes to win and he's a do well by all a student, do well by all accounts, he's being marked d, e and f right now. he's got his tory being flooded, tory mps being flooded, fleeing the . they're jumping off the ship. they're jumping off the ship. they're jumping off the ship. they're jumping off the ship. tory party advisers leaving to keir starmer labour party. >> to be fair, though, also to rishi sunak . rishi sunak. >> and again, he's not somebody that i usually defend, but i think realistically overall a

lot of these tory parties who are tory mps who were stepping down at the next election, know that got no chance that they've got no chance because last years of because of the last 14 years of absolute chaos. so i think this started way before rishi sunak , started way before rishi sunak, but particularly the particularly the last 18 months, is where the polls have massively shifted against them. >> and what have we seen again yesterday, rishi sunak coming out saying i was given out and saying i was given a hospital by johnson. hospital pass by boris johnson. oh, i could do . oh, there's nothing i could do. there's nothing there's absolutely nothing i could almost could do. well, that is almost an defeat as it an admittance of defeat as it is. alex, you were alluding the other have other news that might have escaped some of our viewers today some the today is about some of the advisers . now, could you explain advisers. now, could you explain what's going on there? yes. >> so there's this great report in tory party in the telegraph. tory party adviser the adviser are fleeing the conservative party, and they're going over to work for keir starmer's labour party, not only does how how does that show how how internally corrupt the conservative party is, because it's got a bunch of career politicians in the making there who are literally jumping ship to ship to save their votes. but if i was a labour voter, be if i was a labour voter, i'd be quite worried that my policy is

now going to infiltrated by a now going to be infiltrated by a bunch people. now going to be infiltrated by a bunch maybe people. now going to be infiltrated by a bunch maybe they people. now going to be infiltrated by a bunch maybe they just ople. now going to be infiltrated by a bunch maybe they just jumping now going to be infiltrated by a bunc because they just jumping now going to be infiltrated by a bunc because they realise mping now going to be infiltrated by a bunc because they realise thatg now going to be infiltrated by a bunwholerse they realise thatg now going to be infiltrated by a bunwhole thingay realise thatg now going to be infiltrated by a bunwhole thing is realise thatg now going to be infiltrated by a bunwhole thing is just se thatg the whole thing is just a non—starter. you wouldn't jump ship? >> no, i mean, john, are you a woman of values? would you jump ship tories because ship to the tories because you saw labour losing? would you jump saw labour losing? would you jump because of that. but >> no, not because of that. but also i think it's because of just what the party has just what the tory party has become. tory party become. the tory party themselves completely become. the tory party themsel'so completely become. the tory party themsel'so cc somebody divided. so if i'm somebody who's to who's going to be an adviser to them, know what i'm them, i want to know what i'm actually up and actually signing up for. and i think a lot of people, the country doesn't know who they are. >> agree with you. are. >> also agree with you. are. >> also agree more with you. but also agree more with you. >> talking about >> you're talking about minorities meet minorities too. whenever i meet a say, so what's a tory mp and i say, so what's going all mad. going on? you've all gone mad. and don't know. and he said, well, i don't know. >> a problem. >> that's a problem. >> that's a problem. >> exactly the idea. >> that's exactly the idea. >> that's exactly the idea. >> they're all in a bloc behaving in a kind of we're all given up. we've all done this. we don't know to what do, but one that doesn't ring true. one thing absolutely thing that is absolutely beggars belief, far concerned, belief, as far as i'm concerned, is that keir starmer is the fact that keir starmer could now finally be up against the privileges committee. >> now, as we understand it, and this is what my sources were

saying earlier in the week, and it was reported elsewhere as well , was it was reported elsewhere as well, was that it was reported elsewhere as well , was that ultimate well, was that the ultimate decision to be decision on this is going to be whether rishi gives whether or not rishi sunak gives the leader the the nod to the leader of the house, penny mordaunt, to actually ahead this? actually push ahead with this? why would you, as the why on earth would you, as the prime minister, who say 20 points behind in the polls, be presented with the opposition's metaphorical head platter metaphorical head on a platter and not press ahead with that? i mean, that, john, to me is i mean, that, john, to me is i mean, just, well, unimaginable. i just don't understand . and why i just don't understand. and why how politically awful have you got to be to not do that? >> i'm sorry. it's because you've not worked at westminster. you don't see that for them. >> w- for them. >> question removing >> the whole question removing the opposition. the leader of the opposition. >> no. but in >> no, no, no. but it in politics, has to politics, everything has got to be in context. it's not be seen in context. it's not just one and therefore that just one move and therefore that there's move and there's always one move and another about another move. and how about this? it's always moving out of the john. now it's the minute, john. now it's always more complicated. and it seems the straightforward view is still your prime minister get on with it. and if people. >> but it's politics though john

i mean come on this is a chess game. if you've got an opportunity to take out your biggest rival, biggest biggest rival, your biggest threat staying threat to you becoming, staying as prime minister, would take as prime minister, i would take every mean, they as prime minister, i would take eve with mean, they as prime minister, i would take eve with boris mean, they as prime minister, i would take eve with boris all mean, they as prime minister, i would take eve with boris all right.an, they did with boris all right. >> okay. >> okay. >> and truss, they >> truss and with truss, they took they could. they took any chance they could. they threw the dagger. >> politics is a >> and you think politics is a cartoon isn't. cartoon game? it isn't. >> little bit like maybe >> it's a little bit like maybe he realises keir he just realises that keir starmer didn't starmer actually didn't do anything his anything wrong. so his conscience speaking to him. >> be careful. be careful. assuming there's a simple solution . simple solutions at solution. simple solutions at westminster are almost by definition , are wrong. all definition, are wrong. all right, all right. >> playing chess, not checkers . >> playing chess, not checkers. >> playing chess, not checkers. >> okay. all right, well, look, we're off to we're off to a good start. we're off to a good start. we're off to a good start. now, look. coming up. okay, tv exclusive with okay, a tv exclusive with former immigration minister robert jenrick. is, jenrick. and yes, he is, unfortunately for rishi, scathing . scathing about. >> well, i didn't feel that the prime minister understood the importance of legal migration . importance of legal migration. >> it's a wide ranging interview that certainly well worth a watch, if i do say so myself. is ramadan more popular than easter 7

ramadan more popular than easter ? big that ? is another big topic that we'll but we'll be covering tonight. but up winner and up next, a eurovision winner and a queen debate whether the up next, a eurovision winner and a should en debate whether the up next, a eurovision winner and a should boycott te whether the up next, a eurovision winner and a should boycott thishether the up next, a eurovision winner and a should boycott this year's the uk should boycott this year's contest. why? because quiz for palestine are telling us to patrick christys tonight on gb news is

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update on the king's health, actually over easter. so do stay tuned for that . but now, quiz tuned for that. but now, quiz for palestine. some would call it an oxymoron. have published an open letter calling for the uk's eurovision entry olly alexander to boycott the competition. well, are they right? it's time for tonight's head to head . so quiz for head to head. so quiz for palestine. yes, that's the real thing. are asking uk representative olly alexander to pull out of eurovision. and they're not the only ones prominent left wing and lgbt journalist owen jones has joined the campaign. now, many of you may think that the uk should boycott eurovision every year, as it's normally a national embarrassment, but . embarrassment, but. >> the united kingdom gets from the public. zero points so.

>> well, olly is standing his ground, so he took to x to issue a statement insisting that he is taking part in the competition due to his belief in the unifying power of music . unifying power of music. however, with over a month to run until one of the gay community's landmark events , you community's landmark events, you do wonder whether or not olly will be able to hold the line. they, of course, want us to boycott israel and therefore boycott israel and therefore boycott eurovision. so tonight i am should the uk be am asking should the uk be boycotting eurovision because of israel's participation in the competition? let me know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com at gb news on twitter. go and vote in our poll. the results to follow shortly. joining me follow shortly. but joining me now commentator now is political commentator alex queen alex armstrong and drag queen amaya. both of you. thank amaya. napa both of you. thank you very, very much. tremendous to get you on the show, amaya, i will start with you . do you will start with you. do you think that we should be boycotting eurovision and queers for palestine? want to ? us for palestine? want to? us >> i do, i think considering

eurovision historical stance on political songs . and for political songs. and for example, in 2021, belarus were disqualified for having a song that was politically motivated, they then put forward another song which wasn't politically motivated and they were still disqualified. whereas israel have put forward two songs that were both disqualified and they've still been allowed to use the same song that was originally disqualified with slightly different lyrics, which . reference the october 7th attacks, so if we're going purely on eurovision rules, right? they should not be allowed to. >> so can i just ask for a bit of clarity on that, just purely because i suspect that you might know little bit more about know a little bit more about this do. so you're saying this than i do. so you're saying that have forward that israel have put forward a song the october that israel have put forward a

song attacks? the october that israel have put forward a song attacks? that october that israel have put forward a song attacks? that right? er seventh attacks? is that right? >> forward two songs, seventh attacks? is that right? >> were forward two songs, seventh attacks? is that right? >> were disqualified.no songs, seventh attacks? is that right? >> were disqualified. then1gs, seventh attacks? is that right? >> were disqualified. then one two were disqualified. then one of songs, which called of the songs, which was called october rain and it is now called hurricane, i believe , called hurricane, i believe, they changed a couple of words from the chorus, but it still references the october 7th attacks, and that is just basic eurovision rules. that's not even going into the fact that they're currently ethnically cleansing a whole state of people. and so . right, okay. people. and so. right, okay. >> yeah. all right. well, that's that's part of that there for a second. amit. so, alex, i will throw it over to you, it's our track, for what it's worth, is apparently called dizzy. i don't know if that contains any particular messages , particular political messages, should we be boycotting, the eurovision song contest? because queers for palestine have asked to us do so? >> no, i mean, absolutely not. it's ridiculous. first all, it's ridiculous. first of all, let's eurovision let's remember that eurovision is end of is a democracy. at the end of the day , people get to vote. and the day, people get to vote. and if they don't like israel's song, then surely it won't get many votes. in fact, i hope they do because they are. obviously

they suffered a massive terrorist their terrorist attack on their country, this war country, which is why this war started first but started in the first place. but but let's just take a look at the organisation that's causing for , calling for this for this, calling for this boycott palestine. boycott quiz for palestine. i mean , it might as well be called mean, it might as well be called chickens for kfc, quite frankly, because those people are utterly delusional. a single delusional. there's not a single person many person in palestine or many people palestine would people in palestine that would welcome lgbt welcome anyone from the lgbt community. in fact, they it's against the law. you'd be put in prison . and we've seen many prison. and we've seen many people beheaded killed people beheaded and killed on the palestine for far the streets of palestine for far less when it comes to lgbt rights. so for the fact that the queer community or the gay community, whatever choose community, whatever you choose to call yourself, are now defending is defending a state that is a abhorrently against them is absolutely baffling. >> well, that's that's arguably the key point. am i can i can i ask you a question on that then can i, can i ask you a question on that? i mean, i mean this with, absolute respect, with, with absolute respect, right, that, know, right, which is that, you know, if to gaza, you might if you did go to gaza, you might be tortured and killed. >> lot >> so there's a lot of misinformation in what you just

said, if you were to go to gaza, to the law in gaza regarding homosexuality is actually an antiquated law that has been held on from the british rule. so it was a british mandate . so it was a british mandate. actually, it was not a cousin citizen. that is, you know, you do know there were maya that hamas. >> hamas, hamas. >> hamas, hamas. >> there are no online gay people right against homosexuality. >> and the misinformation that has been . israel have been, has been. israel have been, blackmailing queer palestinians into becoming collaborators right now . you'll find that that right now. you'll find that that is the reason why there is so much taboo around being queer in palestine now. yes. culturally speaking , culturally speaking , speaking, culturally speaking, homosexuality is not a part of the culture. but nowadays as

well. problem is that israel have weaponized that, right? >> no they haven't. look, the people of gaza have weaponized it. there was a man killed just in 2022, for his body was found by state authorities there, and he was killed, likely due he was killed, most likely due to due to his sexuality. the to due to his his sexuality. the reality is, is that there is not a he was not killed because he was a homosexual. >> he was killed because the shin bet had a videotape of him having sex with a man, and they blackmailed him into collaborating with them. and when the palestinian resistance found out , they beheaded him as found out, they beheaded him as a traitor. and it had nothing to do with him. >> but i would argue, i would argue, amaya, though i mean, regardless of why they beheaded him, beheaded right? him, they beheaded a man, right? and they might be worse and maybe they might be worse than israelis . than the israelis. >> the israelis have been committing atrocities since 1948. so if you cage a whole state of people and you don't

allow them to have basic human rights or food or access to health care, and you increase that as the years go on, you cannot. >> i'm not for you . >> i'm not for you. >> fine. >> fine. >> i get what i get what you're saying. i imagine alex might disagree with that. and certainly when it comes to the gay rights thing, i mean, israel is bastion of gay is seen as a bastion of gay rights in the middle east, alex. >> it's the only. it's the only. israel is the only. hang on, amaya, me talk , israel is amaya, let me talk, israel is the israel is the only state in the israel is the only state in the middle east that has liberal lgbt laws. let's just get the facts straight there. nobody's buying that. if an lgbt person walked into gaza that they wouldn't be attacked, shot , or wouldn't be attacked, shot, or killed. no one's buying that. it doesn't matter how much propaganda the queers of palestine put and how much palestine put out and how much spin buying palestine put out and how much spin if buying palestine put out and how much spin if you buying palestine put out and how much spin if you walked buying palestine put out and how much spin if you walked b|an1g that. if you walked in as an lgbt, a trans person walked into a drag queen, into gaza, a drag queen, walked into gaza, you last five minutes, you wouldn't last five minutes, quite frankly. so let's just be

clear about that. if you go to israel, you will be you are protected . there are even police protected. there are even police there to protect lgbt parts of there to protect lgbt parts of the city from any extremists whatsoever there. so there's a huge difference in the culture in the norms, in the religious values that protect the people of those two different states as well. and let's just be honest , well. and let's just be honest, israel is the only place. and you can you can just look at the facts. israel is the only place in the middle east that has good lgbt laws. it's the only place that you'd be able to go and be safe. >> according to western propaganda, it's not. propaganda, no it's not. >> it'sjust propaganda, no it's not. >> it's just a fact. it's just an absolute fact their laws . an absolute fact on their laws. it is a fact. do some research, go and read the laws of every state in the middle east and tell me which one is the only one has that positive one that has that has positive and attributing lgbt rights and none of them, none of the others do. in fact, they suppress lgbt people. so the fact that you guys willing to support guys are willing to support state, being, state, a state that is being, you oppressing lgbt

you know, a oppressing lgbt people and murdering them for so long is absolutely insane. all right. >> well, well , well, well, >> well, well, well, well, amaya, come back to and amaya, come back to that. and could also just ask you, amaya could i also just ask you, amaya as well, i think might have as well, i think you might have frozen is there. oh, frozen actually on is there. oh, that's all right. frozen actually on is there. oh, that's maybe all right. frozen actually on is there. oh, that's maybe we'll all right. frozen actually on is there. oh, that's maybe we'll maybe right. frozen actually on is there. oh, that's maybe we'll maybe we'll well, maybe we'll maybe we'll get it back, yeah. i mean, look, hey, it's a debate, alex. i'll just bring you back into it, i suppose. then why? no, look, alex, suppose an alex, i mean, i suppose an argument be which argument would be right, which is there is such a is that if there is such a strong of feeling strong strength of feeling amongst people at the moment, that the likes of amaya have, there may be olly alexander if he wants to preserve his career and his reputation as quote unquote, say, queer icon, as owen jones calls him, then actually, he's in a tremendously difficult position now, isn't actually, he's in a tremendously diffiijlt position now, isn't actually, he's in a tremendously diffii mean, tion now, isn't actually, he's in a tremendously diffii mean, shouldw, isn't actually, he's in a tremendously diffii mean, should we sn'teven he? i mean, should we be even allowing or should we be even be allowing or should we be even be allowing israel in eurovision? i mean, it's not in europe. >> mean, look, i'm not huge >> i mean, look, i'm not a huge fan of eurovision myself, patrick, but, you know, i have indulged in it a couple of times. it's great fun, the fact that it gets politicised almost every year is nothing new to

anyone that watches it. let's not forget the has not forget that the uk has received after received zero points after brexit, zero points after the wars. despite none of those songs have any political messaging in them whatsoever. so maybe it's the viewers who are typical people, quite frankly. >> thank you for stepping into this . i >> thank you for stepping into this. i believe, i believe that we've got a great stuff. right. amaya is back now look, final final word to you, amaya, and thank much coming final word to you, amaya, and the and much coming final word to you, amaya, and the and taking much coming final word to you, amaya, and théand taking partch coming final word to you, amaya, and théand taking partch this oming on and taking part in this debate. would message debate. what would your message to he goes to olly alexander be if he goes ahead with his performance? to olly alexander be if he goes aheadisith his performance? to olly alexander be if he goes aheadisith hihim?formance? to olly alexander be if he goes aheadisith hihim? ismance? to olly alexander be if he goes aheadisith hihim? is hence? to olly alexander be if he goes aheadisith hihim? is he ise? to olly alexander be if he goes aheadisith hihim? is he is he okay. is that him? is he is he dead the queer community? is dead to the queer community? is he ? he? >> look, i can't speak for the whole queer community. i'm. i'm just a drag queen. i would just say to think it through very carefully, because the statement that olly put out, i think is frankly, quite insulting , and frankly, quite insulting, and doesn't acknowledge the gravity of the situation . boycotts have of the situation. boycotts have been working all over the world. everyone has seen it with, whether it's mcdonald's or large

corporations. this boycott would be quite a statement, and it's not, you know, it's more than just about fun songs and, you know, it's all right. it's people's lives. >> oh, okay. >> oh, okay. >> all right. look. all right. >> all right. look. all right. >> both of you. thank you. yet again, we asked for a head to head. we certainly got a head to head, so great stuff. all right. and look, who do you agree with? okay. queers for palestine. want the boycott eurovision? the uk to boycott eurovision? should x we should we? gen on x says we shouldn't boycott eurovision, should we? gen on x says we shouldrshouldott eurovision, should we? gen on x says we shouldrshould leave rovision, should we? gen on x says we shouldrshould leave it.ision, should we? gen on x says we shouldrshould leave it.isiora but we should leave it. it's a massive money massive waste of money and despite claiming to be apolitical, it's more political than a general election. anthea apolitical, it's more political than they neral election. anthea apolitical, it's more political than they canl election. anthea apolitical, it's more political than they can boycott n. anthea apolitical, it's more political than they can boycott it anthea apolitical, it's more political than they can boycott it all:hea says they can boycott it all they want. won't it's one they want. i won't be, it's one of highlights of my year. of the highlights of my year. pam yes, not because pam says yes, but not because they us to, because it's they want us to, because it's rubbish unfixed, okay, they want us to, because it's rubbi yourinfixed, okay, they want us to, because it's rubbi your verdict okay, they want us to, because it's rubbi your verdict is okay, they want us to, because it's rubbi your verdict is in okay, they want us to, because it's rubbi your verdict is in a okay, they want us to, because it's rubbi your verdict is in a very, look, your verdict is in a very specific 86.3% of you say, no, we should not boycott eurovision because queers for palestine want us to. 13.7% of you say that we should, some quite revealing felt there revealing things. i felt there in that head to head. but,

anyway, moving on. coming up, a tv exclusive with former immigration minister robert jenrick. yes, he does tee off rather a lot on rishi sunak. well i didn't feel that the prime minister understood the importance of legal migration and a big announcement on king charles's health also as well. it's ramadan now more popular. than easter. it certainly seems to be in certain parts, doesn't it? but next, is ever it? but next, is it ever okay for to smack kids for parents to smack their kids to teach discipline? i'm to teach them discipline? i'm asking seem to asking this because we seem to be heck of lot

gb news. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now i've lost count of how many times that i've been out in public. and there have been children, feral children, causing most recent causing a scene. the most recent case is hundreds of school kids storming a shopping centre in milton keynes. now a member of the public, was afraid that they were running from a shooting or an attack or something like that. screaming. well, an attack or something like that. it screaming. well, an attack or something like that. it turned screaming. well, an attack or something like that. it turned out, eaming. well, an attack or something like that. it turned out, you ing. well, an attack or something like that. it turned out, you know,all, then it turned out, you know, shops doors in shops locked their doors in panic and actually they were just loot the place. just trying to loot the place. one said was really one bystander said it was really scary, as there were maybe 200 kids with no regard kids just running with no regard for around them. they for anyone around them. they were at security, were were swearing at security, were doing but with doing an amazing job, but with so many kids, they had no hope of it control . so of getting it under control. so with young people thinking that they the roost . they can just rule the roost. and by the way, i mean that was they can just rule the roost. and of the way, i mean that was they can just rule the roost. and of arguably i mean that was they can just rule the roost. and of arguably the ean that was they can just rule the roost. and of arguably the more 1at was they can just rule the roost. and of arguably the more mild as one of arguably the more mild mannered situations there. as bad that was, know, there

bad as that was, you know, there seemed other seemed to be stabbing each other left, right and centre at the moment. disrespecting moment. massively disrespecting police how parents thing. look how parents completely of their completely lost control of their children. we've had conversations already today on gb news about, well, what do you do? do you put them all in young offenders institutes? do you do you you you find the parents? do you send to prison? send the parents to prison? well, i'm wondering well, i'm just wondering actually not it actually whether or not is it ever okay to smack kids, to ever okay to smack your kids, to teach discipline? i'm teach them discipline? i'm delighted to be joined now by behavioural and media psychologist. wonderful psychologist. it's the wonderful joe thank you joe hemmings. joe, thank you very, going to very, very much. i'm going to front immediately and front up to this immediately and just any kids, just say i don't have any kids, but ever okay? is it ever but is it ever okay? is it ever okay to smack your kids to teach them discipline? does it have any effect ? any effect? >> hello, patrick. >> hello, patrick. >> i mean, look, i'm not in favour of smacking . i am only if favour of smacking. i am only if they're in imminent danger. so kids sticking their fingers in sockets or going near , you know, sockets or going near, you know, water with some sort of electricity. yes. you've got to smack a child to immediately remove them to danger. no remove them to that danger. no these are all teenagers. there's this group, mob and archaic

mentality. so if you're asking mentality. so if you're asking me how parents forgotten about disciplining their children now, discipline is a bit of a dirty word these days, but it's incredibly important. you can't forget it. so each and one of those children of that 200 mob has a parent or a guardian that needs to take some responsibility for what they're doing and where they are. and if they find out that part of that group, then there ought to be. >> just with joe, >> i just wonder with that joe, though, wonder that though, i just wonder with that logic. there logic. you know, they were there in uniform, their in the school uniform, their face is not. a of the faces face is not. a lot of the faces were i mean, you were covered. i mean, you presumably, unless you're especially of especially thick as one of those children. there's children. you know, there's a relatively that that children. you know, there's a relati\isy that that children. you know, there's a relati\is going that that children. you know, there's a relati\is going to that that children. you know, there's a relati\is going to end that that children. you know, there's a relati\is going to end th getting video is going to end up getting back your dad. okay. back to your mum or dad. okay. the implication took from that back to your mum or dad. okay. tithat plication took from that back to your mum or dad. okay. tithat theytion took from that back to your mum or dad. okay. tithat they didn't:ook from that back to your mum or dad. okay. tithat they didn't reallyom that back to your mum or dad. okay. tithat they didn't really care.iat is that they didn't really care. i wonder just means i just wonder if it just means that kids aren't afraid of their parents anymore, and whether or not bit of physical not a little bit of physical discipline and again not a little bit of physical disci|bring and again not a little bit of physical disci|bring that and again not a little bit of physical disci|bring that ,nd again not a little bit of physical disci|bring that, h again not a little bit of physical disci|bring that, i wouldi does bring back that, i would argue, maybe quite healthy fear from time to time. >> no , i'm not in favour of >> no, i'm not in favour of physical discipline, but i am, especially age because

especially at that age because i think it's kind of pointless. especially at that age because i thini it's kind of pointless. especially at that age because i thini dot kind of pointless. especially at that age because i thini do think of pointless. especially at that age because i thini do think kids)intless. especially at that age because i thini do think kids)intle�*gone but i do think kids have gone wild. i think parents need to wild. i do think parents need to discipline i mean, we've wild. i do think parents need to disciplimany i mean, we've wild. i do think parents need to disciplimany storiesean, we've wild. i do think parents need to disciplimany stories in 1, we've wild. i do think parents need to disciplimany stories in the e've wild. i do think parents need to disciplimany stories in the news had so many stories in the news lately, kids of five years old going to school, still in nappies. those parents nappies. what were those parents doing doing during covid? clearly potty clearly not anywhere near potty training. 1 in 5 kids, 1 in 5 teachers report kids have hit them in the last couple of years. i mean, there is definitely a run of really lousy behaviour going on that parents have to be accountable for in some way. >> but what do about it? >> but what do we do about it? >> but what do we do about it? >> i mean, astonishing, >> i mean, that's astonishing, isn't 1 in isn't it? what was it? 1 in 5 teachers have hit by a teachers have been hit by a pupil . yes. i look, pupil. yes. i mean, look, i don't know about when you were at never saw at school. i mean, i never saw anything i anything like that at all. i think. i think that's the think. i think that that's the kind that might have kind of thing that might have made headlines a ago made the headlines a while ago as off, alone now the as a one off, let alone now the fact that it's 1 in 5 kids. what can we do about that? because there is a discipline issue here. they don't fear the police . they don't fear security guards. don't guards. they obviously don't fear , and they fear teachers, and they obviously don't fear their parents. do we do?

parents. i mean, how do we do? how do we get better at this without physical action? >> look, there is no point in smacking or hitting. in fact, it's against the law. you know, a 30, 14, 15 year old. it's about respect . it's about about respect. it's about getting them to recognise boundaries. they're boundaries. look, when they're in a group like this and they're all anarchic, it's like lord of the flies. they're going crazy. it's different to an it's very different to an individual stabbing another one on not conflate on a train that's not conflate some of these behaviours, but that particular group behaviour today, yeah, they want to be seen. that's part of the whole social media roundabout of gathering them together. they want to be seen on screen. it's disrespectful , it's offensive disrespectful, it's offensive and parents have to teach their children the old fashioned matter of respect . and i sort of matter of respect. and i sort of think that's gone out of the window a bit. and it does come down to the parents, it comes down to the parents, it comes down to the relationships they have children and have with their children and giving manners , giving them good manners, decency. these are all old fashioned words, but they're

incredibly important. >> you know something else that might be a bit old fashioned now? and by the way, i'm not casting aspersions whatsoever on on mean, know on mothers here. i mean, i know i'm afraid of my own mother on mothers here. i mean, i know i'nhave afraid of my own mother on mothers here. i mean, i know i'nhave donei of my own mother on mothers here. i mean, i know i'nhave done thatny own mother on mothers here. i mean, i know i'n have done that for)wn mother on mothers here. i mean, i know i'n have done that form start,:her to have done that for a start, but fatherless is there but fatherless homes, is there an there , do you think the an issue there, do you think the breakdown of the nuclear family, we see more divorces as we see a lot more divorces as well. that doesn't always mean the absent, course, the father's absent, of course, but this is but i just wonder, is this an is this now? is you know, this an issue now? is you know, do kids do better if their dads around ? around? >> look, i think one good parent is better than two lousy parents, you know, that aren't getting on. you know, it's tough at the moment. there's a cost of living crisis . people have to go living crisis. people have to go to work. they leave their kids in various sorts of care or their school clubs. they in various sorts of care or their do school clubs. they in various sorts of care or their do it.;chool clubs. they in various sorts of care or their do it. they're.ubs. they in various sorts of care or their do it. they're latchkey/ can't do it. they're latchkey kids . remember those? home, kids. remember those? come home, feed there . feed yourself. your tea's there. i mean, when kids don't have the boundanes. i mean, when kids don't have the boundaries . yeah, they are going boundaries. yeah, they are going to go a bit wild. i mean, it's rough times at the moment and i

hope it's a bit of a hangover from covid. it's a bit of a cost of living crisis. it's a bit of a parenting, forgetting how to do they wouldn't do stuff because they wouldn't have their day. have done it in their day. it's a of factors that a combination of factors that actually addressed. actually need to be addressed. >> kids the ones >> do those kids like the ones we saw in that video? i don't know if we might able know if we might be able to bnng know if we might be able to bring at some bring that up again at some point, we saw point, like the ones we saw in that and others them, that video and others like them, and that are going and the ones that are going around at around firing fireworks at police they police officers or whatever they do, do up to be do, do they grow up to be terrible as well? terrible adults as well? >> look, not necessarily. this is a big group mentality. you take each of those kids individually and i can assure you at least 50 or 60% will be pretty appalled at what they've done. but they're in a group and that sort of group mentality that sort of group mentality that anarchy, that chaos they cause, they don't take accountability individually because they're in a big group doing it. and that's actually quite, you know, a frightening thing. but again, parents have to take those kids, they recognise their children recognise their own children from you? from that video. where were you?

were recognised you were you there? i recognised you , it's not a feather in your cap. we need to talk about this . cap. we need to talk about this. >> and just finally, joe, >> and just very finally, joe, just to me from just to reiterate to me from your from your, know, your from your, you know, experience, in this experience, i suppose in this field, as a behavioural psychologist, there is no evidence that you think that children who are not talking about abused at the home here at all. i'm talking about the kind of, you know, smack that might have been dished out a bit more regularly the you don't regularly in the past. you don't think there's any evidence between between that happening with and them with younger children and them being disciplined? being more disciplined? >> like you to. i know >> no. i'd like you to. i know you'd like me to say that. >> no, no, i'm. no, i'm intrigued because this is this is the point. if you think that the answer to that is no, then that's the answer. and that's the answer to that is no, then that that; answer. and that's the answer to that is no, then thatthata ansputsand that's the answer to that is no, then thatthata ansputsand to it's the answer to that is no, then thatthata ansputsand to bed the answer to that is no, then th.suggestansputsand to bed the answer to that is no, then th.suggestanspopposite,o bed the answer to that is no, then th.suggestanspopposite,o be(if to suggest the opposite, that if there's smacked, if they're hit, they think okay do it to they think it's okay to do it to other people. >> actually the evidence goes >> so actually the evidence goes against physical punishment in that way. certainly at that age, unless they are literally toddlers playing with something without doing something incredibly dangerous, like running into the road, that is

the time. the only time. >> joe look, really >> yeah. joe look, really interesting and you interesting stuff. and thank you very, that because very, very much for that because i that has been one of the i think that has been one of the big questions i've i've big questions i've been i've been the gb views inbox been glued to the gb views inbox today covering today because i was covering the show and there was show earlier on, and there was a load comments earlier on load of comments earlier on about these kids need about whether these kids need a good stuff. was good smack and stuff. and i was thinking, actually, thinking, well, actually, does it but joe, it make a difference? but joe, thank much. thank you very, very much. joe hemmings, behavioural thank you very, very much. joe hemm psychologist 3ehavioural thank you very, very much. joe hemm psychologist now lioural thank you very, very much. joe hemm psychologist now .oural thank you very, very much. joe hemm psychologist now . yes.. thank you very, very much. joe hemm psychologist now . yes. tv media psychologist now. yes. tv exclusive with former immigration minister robert jenrick is on the way. one of the issues, big issues here on this show and it has been for a number of weeks now . is it about number of weeks now. is it about just trying to be able to access the information as to whether or not asylum seekers are committing assaults, and committing sexual assaults, and whether we can access that information? i'm going to talk more about this a little bit later on, but i did ask mr jenrick, the former immigration minister, directly about this , minister, directly about this, did see some very concerning incidents , for example, at the incidents, for example, at the asylum hotels, individuals committing sexual assault. that interview is just around the

corner, also, is ramadan more popular than easter? we'll be discussing that. but next, a king charles health

gb news. welcome back to patrick christys . tonight. we are, of course, on . gb news. well, some potentially very important royal news. now, king charles is set to make his first appearance since beginning his cancer treatment . however, he will sit treatment. however, he will sit apart from the rest of the royal family at the easter service as a precaution to protect his health. now the king is hoping to walk to and from saint george's chapel in windsor, apparently, but, we'll probably not be attending a post service reception. there is a bit more to this as well . should we be

to this as well. should we be concerned or more concerned really, for our king? joining me to discuss this now is the editor at large for the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. charlotte, thank very, very charlotte, thank you very, very much. this is concerning. it much. so this is concerning. it does like trying does appear like they're trying to minimise the amount that we can actually see king charles at times. >> well it is kind of concerning, but the whole reason this is being staged is because they want to, you know, calm us all down because we haven't seen charles for a really long time. and kate's obviously made her announcement about ill. announcement about being ill. so actually, really actually, i think they've really wanted this event to happen so that reassured. but as that we feel reassured. but as you say, slightly less reassuring that going to be reassuring that he's going to be sitting apart from rest of sitting apart from the rest of the congregation his the congregation to protect his health, can only assume health, so we can only assume that he's somehow immunosuppressed and they don't want bugs from want him to catch any bugs from the congregation, also what the congregation, but also what they've is quite they've done, which is quite clever, is he'll be walking down to then from to the service. but then from that onwards, won't be that point onwards, he won't be seen george's seen because saint george's chapelis seen because saint george's chapel is within the grounds of the castle. so they've chosen an event where won't be on event where he won't be on camera and hours on camera for hours and hours on end, so yeah. so while it is a

little bit concerning, they're trying, you know, the royal aides are sort of hoping actually for the opposite effect, seeing last effect, that seeing him at last will us he's okay. yeah. >> and it doesn't appear like he'll taking easter lunch he'll be taking the easter lunch afterwards, apparently, because he's he's on his gentle steps and first return to public and his first return to public life , as it were. and we didn't life, as it were. and we didn't actually see him, did we? when he did his easter message. so that raised a few eyebrows . that raised a few eyebrows. >> that raised a few eyebrows because he recorded an audio recording a few weeks actually, before. and then they said, well , that's because the worcestershire cathedral didn't have the visual capabilities to have the visual capabilities to have live video streaming. but then people wondered, well , why then people wondered, well, why can't he do a live audio recording, but, you can't he do a live audio recording, but , you know, they recording, but, you know, they they explained it all away and i think they're very keen to do that. aides and they're very that. the aides and they're very keen weekend as keen to unveil this, weekend as a step, a slow and gentle step is the narrative that's being pushed towards him returning pushed out towards him returning to . but, you know, to public duty. but, you know, the fact is we're not going to suddenly see him, you know, every minutes at royal

every five minutes at royal events, he has done events, however, he has done three this but three engagements this week, but they closed doors. they were behind closed doors. we saw stills as we become quite used to now with charles is seeing stills of doing seeing stills of him doing meet and greets , actually this will and greets, actually this will be his fourth engagement in a week, for somebody who's week, which for somebody who's battling cancer. absolutely pretty hardcore actually. >> , definitely. >> yeah, definitely. >> yeah, definitely. >> and you know, there is also the obvious issue of if the very obvious issue of if somebody is ill and if somebody is battling cancer and we don't know entirely, i think do we, about exactly what treatments he might be going through for that, then suppose they do deserve then i suppose they do deserve privacy. be privacy. maybe we should just be grateful to get a little glimpse of him as he's walking in. >> yeah, i think so. i think he's slightly less private than kate. kate's obviously not kate. so kate's obviously is not going present at at going to be present at all at this, at service. she's this, at this service. and she's away whole of easter. away for the whole of easter. we're not to her we're not going to see her anymore, which of the anymore, which is part of the reason being rolled out reason he's being rolled out a little you little bit, but he's been, you know, off. he's know, right from the off. he's been quite open about what's wrong him, admittedly, wrong with him, admittedly, not his his his exact type of cancer or his treatment, you know, i think treatment, so you know, i think i think he will push the

boundaries. and i think he knows, just like the queen always taught him, you have to be believed. and be seen to be believed. and that's why we had kate that's why we had the kate hysteria. because didn't hysteria. because we just didn't see so long. and charles see her for so long. and charles isn't going to into that isn't going to fall into that trap. try and be trap. he's going to try and be seen. have sort seen. and yes, we have to sort of his but he of respect his privacy, but he knows he that he needs to knows he knows that he needs to give little bit well be give a little bit as well and be seen. if anything really, seen. so if anything really, this quite this is potentially a quite a brave story really, that brave king story really, that despite that is going brave king story really, that des he; that is going brave king story really, that des he is that is going brave king story really, that des he is it that is going brave king story really, that des he is it appears hat is going brave king story really, that des he is it appears anyway,ying on, he is it appears anyway, going to be seen in public for a brief window of time. >> it's his fourth engagement of the week. he is at least attending the service as well. i mean, that is quite bold of him really. >> i think it's really bold and i think he's doing it genuinely out of a sense of duty. and he said that maundy service said in that maundy service speech pre—recorded, speech that was pre—recorded, he said, his said, you know, he feels his duty is to serve not be duty is to serve and not be served. this is sort of served. and this is sort of a sort gesture towards that. sort of gesture towards that. i think saying, i am think he's saying, look, i am the monarch. am king the monarch. i am the king i know, know, people know, you know, many people want to monarchy , to actually see the monarchy, thriving, but they just literally at the literally can't do that at the moment because kate's ill and

he's ill. so i think he's sort of forcing himself out there. and of course, he's putting in careful around this careful boundaries around this event that if does get event so that if he does get tired, we, the nation won't all, you know, have a fit of hysteria that he missed the lunch. it's better for him to just, you know, say right, i'm going to finish do finish before the lunch and do a short he knows that short walk because he knows that there's this hysteria that could come . charlotte, thank come out well. charlotte, thank you very, very much. >> it's really great to have your insight into that. charlotte griffiths, who is the editor the mail on sunday, editor of the mail on sunday, editor of the mail on sunday, editor are editor at large. yes, you are indeed. right. one indeed. i'll get that right. one day okay. at day anyway. right. okay. look at tv exclusive with former immigration minister robert jenrick does jenrick coming your way. he does discuss taking discuss sexual assaults, taking place migrant so make place in migrant hotels. so make sure tuned for all sure that you stay tuned for all of important stuff. of that very important stuff. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast

on the metal. as we go through the rest of this easter weekend, for most of us, we continue to see the mix of some sunshine, but risk of some rain but also the risk of some rain at times . it's all courtesy of at times. it's all courtesy of this area of low pressure, which is around as we go is going to hang around as we go through the next few but through the next few days, but with from the with winds coming up from the south, it should feel a little bit so end good bit less cold. so as we end good friday, still risk of some friday, still the risk of some showers parts of showers across parts of scotland, northern ireland, showers across parts of scotlarwestern ern ireland, showers across parts of scotlarwestern fringesand, showers across parts of scotlarwestern fringesancengland showers across parts of scotwales, tern fringesancengland showers across parts of scotwales, but fringesancengland showers across parts of scotwales, but elsewhere england showers across parts of scotwales, but elsewhere turningi and wales, but elsewhere turning clear with the risk of a few misty patches forming, come dawn, and also a touch of frost in countryside . so we do in the countryside. so we do start saturday off on a bit of a chilly note, but some sunshine from the word go. risk of a little bit of cloud and patchy rain just reaching the very far east england and the main east of england and the main focus of any showers tomorrow will be again across more western and northern parts of the country, but there should western and northern parts of tilittle ntry, but there should western and northern parts of tilittle bity, but there should western and northern parts of tilittle bit fewerthere should western and northern parts of tilittle bit fewer ands should western and northern parts of tilittle bit fewer and further! a little bit fewer and further between today . so between compared to today. so temperature wise in the sunshine. not feeling too bad. highs reaching around or 15 highs reaching around 14 or 15 degrees. having a look at easter

day. a bit of a cloudy start across many eastern parts, but that will burn its way back towards the north sea. so for many another day of many again, it's another day of some risk of a few some sunny spells. risk of a few showers, potentially a little bit more in the way of persistent rain just arriving in the very far south western persistent rain just arriving in the verand south western persistent rain just arriving in the verand thath western persistent rain just arriving in the verand that sets stern persistent rain just arriving in the verand that sets usrn persistent rain just arriving in the verand that sets us up for corner. and that sets us up for a bit of a north south split on monday. grey in monday. rather grey and wet in the to the the south, but hanging on to the sunshine north. sunshine further north. >> things are heating >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of

gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. >> well, i didn't feel that the prime minister understood the importance of legal migration . importance of legal migration. >> yes. a tv exclusive with robert jenrick. he knows what's really going on. >> he , some very concerning >> he, some very concerning incidents. for example, at the asylum hotels, individuals

committing sexual assault . committing sexual assault. >> he thinks that we should all be able to know the truth. also, sir, what? is ramadan now more popular than easter? and, >> oh, we've got breaking . news >> oh, we've got breaking. news >> oh, we've got breaking. news >> david lammy has just dropped a massive clanger . i've got all a massive clanger. i've got all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you tonight with apprentice finalist joana jarjue political commentator alex armstrong, and axed itv political chief john sergeant . political chief john sergeant. oh, yes. and i will be telling you what on earth is happening here. oh, no, it does get worse. get ready britain, here we go.

there is an issue with asylum seeker sex attackers. next . seeker sex attackers. next. >> patrick. thank you and very good evening to you from the gb newsrooms. just gone 10:00. and we start with news from northern ireland tonight, where the new leader democratic leader of the democratic unionist party has today condemned what he calls conspiracy theories and cheap political point scoring following criminal charges brought against sir jeffrey donaldson , the shock resignation donaldson, the shock resignation of the dup's former leader and the longest serving mp in northern ireland came after he was accused of serious historical offences. gavin historical sex offences. gavin robinson was unanimously appointed as the interim leader for earlier . appointed as the interim leader for earlier. he appointed as the interim leader for earlier . he says for the party earlier. he says the charges against donaldson were a devastating revelation . were a devastating revelation. >> i think it's caused tremendous shock, not just for myself personally or my colleagues within the dup, but for the community right across northern ireland. it came as a great shock, but we are a party and individuals that believe in

justice. we have faith in our criminal justice system, and so in the coming days and months, i think it is important that none of us say anything or act in any way, that would seek to prejudice what is now an ongoing criminal investigation . criminal investigation. >> rishi sunak is facing criticism for awarding a major conservative donor a knighthood as part of a controversial honours list. sir mohamed mansour gave £5 million to the tories last year and was knighted for what's described as services to business, charity and politics. labour, though, have condemned the award as what they've called an arrogant act of entitled man, adding that of an entitled man, adding that donations shouldn't be an automatic honours . well, automatic pass to honours. well, as we mentioned in the last hour , a journalist working for iran international is recovering after what's been described as a cowardly and deeply shocking knife attack outside his home in london. police and paramedics

responded to the scene this afternoon where that victim, in his 30s, was found with stab wounds. though he's not thought to be in a life threatening condition. the attack is now, we understand, being investigated by specialist counter—terror prism officers to confirm whether it's connected to the iranian regime. well, it follows lord cameron's recent condemnation of iran's targeting of journalists, including a recent alleged plot to assassinate two television reporters working for iran tv here in britain . police have here in britain. police have issued an urgent appeal to help locate a disabled boy's specially modified van. the canaso specially modified van. the cariaso family's 13 year old son, elijah , has a rare life son, elijah, has a rare life limiting muscular condition. his custom vehicle, seen here, if you're watching on television, is cctv footage showing the moment it was stolen. that van was used to transport vital medical equipment. elijah's mother , anisa, hopes that the mother, anisa, hopes that the van is returned before her son's birthday, which she said could be their last holiday together .

be their last holiday together. >> it's not the van that you took, but it's our freedom as a family. his freedom as to whatever life he's got. he's got a limited time here and we just hope that you pull something in your heart to look at this as not a material thing, but look at this as what you could give to elijah into whatever life, whatever we could squeeze in to whatever we could squeeze in to whatever limited time we've got . whatever limited time we've got. >> meanwhile, one of the uk's largest school photo firms has apologised after it offered families the option of class pictures with without pictures with or without children. needs. children. with complex needs. parents in aberdeenshire have expressed their anger after being sent two versions of a class photo to choose from , with class photo to choose from, with one excluding classmates with additional needs. the mother of one of those children who was excluded from a class photo , excluded from a class photo, said it was heartbreaking to see her effectively , she said. her child effectively, she said. erased from history. well, tempest photography have said

that what happened is not standard procedure and that they are matter very are taking the matter very seriously . and finally, in seriously. and finally, in canada, a state of emergency has been declared as niagara falls braces for record crowds during an upcoming total solar eclipse . an upcoming total solar eclipse. the dramatic natural wonder wonder situated along the canadian us border is in the path of that eclipse. coming up on the 8th of april, the region's authorities say. the decision has been made out of an abundance of caution to manage the biggest crowd of visitors ever expected to flock to the popular waterfalls. well, with up to a million sightseers and stargazers predicted , many stargazers predicted, many people are already splurging on hotels, securing their spot to experience rare sight . experience the rare sight. that's the latest from the newsroom. for now, in the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com/alerts .

gbnews.com/alerts. >> good evening. this week we've seen both a record number of channel migrant crossings, with 4644 this year and an issue with legal migration because again this week, more legal migrants have come to this country to fulfil jobs in care homes that didn't even exist. and then, of course, there were multiple manhunts alleged crimes, manhunts for alleged crimes, ranging unprovoked ranging from unprovoked stabbings to the sexual assault of schoolgirls . but the big of schoolgirls. but the big story for us here at gb news is that we think the public deserves to know the truth. when it asylum it comes to how many asylum seekers committed sex seekers have committed sex offences. the ministry of justice rejected our freedom of information request on the grounds that it would cost them too much money. we then offered too much money. we then offered to pay for it. they still rejected it. we will appeal that decision. however, there may be another way to get this information now. this is the first of my two part interview with former immigration minister

robert jenrick. i began by asking him if he thinks the pubuc asking him if he thinks the public has a right to know if we have people with pending visa and asylum applications who are dangerous sex offenders. >> do i want the most honest and transparent debate about immigration, legal or illegal, that we can possibly have? and it is wrong that the government or other agencies hide statistics. and so following your very important campaign, i have laid an amendment out to the upcoming criminal justice bill, which tackles one of these issues. and it says that the government must publish statistics on crimes and sentences by country of origin and by visa and asylum status. and so if the government accepts this or we win in parliament, then from now on we will have this information and we don't know what this will show. it may be that it shows that there are some surprisingly interesting

statistics that some people coming to our country are extremely law abiding, more law abiding than british citizens. or it may show the opposite, but what matters here is that we have the information and that we can an honest debate as we can have an honest debate as we set policy. >> it's worth noting as well that we've been in communication with ministry justice on with the ministry of justice on this , and they initially said to this, and they initially said to us that they hold the us that they do hold the information , but it would cost information, but it would cost too much money to be able to get it. offered pay for it. it. we offered to pay for it. they've no, you can't pay they've said, no, you can't pay for we're not getting they've said, no, you can't pay forso we're not getting they've said, no, you can't pay forso vthink not getting they've said, no, you can't pay forso vthink the not getting they've said, no, you can't pay forso vthink the nationting they've said, no, you can't pay forso vthink the nation isg it. so i think the nation is really your , your, really relying on your, your, your thing going through that. what's the kind of uptake been on it? how are you seeing that that come to fruition? what would be the process order to would be the process in order to get the line? get that across the line? >> laid >> well, we've laid the amendment asked mps amendment and i've asked all mps whether to whether they would like to support and already support me and we've already had dozens parliament dozens of members of parliament putting names to it from putting their names to it from all sections and wings of the conservative from jacob conservative party from jacob rees—mogg buckland . rees—mogg to robert buckland. and i think that shows just how important it is that we actually

have a proper, honest debate thatis have a proper, honest debate that is based on facts. and so it is incumbent on the government to get those facts in to the public domain. i think that the public want to know who's coming into our country and what the economic, the fiscal and the societal impact of immigration is. and as i say, some of that will undoubtedly be positive, some will not. and we need to need to make sure the facts are in the public domain. absolutely. >> just when you were immigration minister, you must have seen a bit behind the curtain. we've curtain. i know that we've spoken about spoken previously about some nefarious characters that unfortunately have made their way . do you have way to our shores. do you have anyidea way to our shores. do you have any idea at all, do you think that there is stuff that needs to be put out there when it comes to the potential for asylum seekers, asylum asylum seekers, some asylum seekers, be committing crimes? >> really, i do, and i did see some very concerning incidents. for example at the asylum hotels or the accommodation that the home office was housing people in individuals committing sexual

assault. and i think it's important that we actually get this information out into the pubuc this information out into the public domain for the first time. there are people coming to this country who do us harm. there are people coming from countries who don't share our western values and western liberal values and attitudes women and attitudes towards women and minorities, and we need to be open and honest about that. and there are other countries around there are other countries around the world, denmark, for example, that was that publishes this data. i was recently texas and in the recently in texas and in the united states. they publish data about the crimes and offences being caused by illegal migrants . let's do the same here in the uk and have an honest debate . uk and have an honest debate. >> yeah, it's about that, isn't it? it's about honest debate. it's about having all of the information disposal so information at our disposal so we that debate, let's we can have that debate, let's talk about some of the people that we know about who are already here, who are committing offences now , you have unearthed offences now, you have unearthed some quite astonishing statistics, actually , which i statistics, actually, which i will you run through. but will let you run through. but this hyper prolific this is about hyper prolific offenders and their of

offenders and their rate of reoffending or . reoffending or. >> well, look, we all want to live in a safer country . and one live in a safer country. and one of the ways to tackle that is to address those people who are committing the most crimes. and the statistics are really shocking . show more shocking. they show that more than 50% of all of the convictions for criminal offences in this country are, are, are done by just 9% of people. >> it's remarkable. >> it's remarkable. >> and there are even people who are committing 45 offences a single individual in the last 12 months that is completely wrong. we've got to address this properly without being sent to prison , without being sent to prison, without being sent to prison. and is for many prison. and prison is for many different things. it's for punishment. it's for rehabilitation , but it's also rehabilitation, but it's also for public safety. and to get the most prolific and dangerous people off the streets of our country. and so what i'm calling for is a different approach to the one we've had in recent years. it is that we lock up more of these prolific offenders and just get them off our

streets, keep the public safe, and to do that, we will need to build more prisons. but i don't flinch from that. i think we have to embrace that. if it is a way of keeping the public safe. and what calling the and so what i'm calling on the government build government today is to build more prisons, embrace as a more prisons, to embrace as a national mission of building more prisons, getting the most dangerous and prolific offenders off the streets, and keeping the dangerous and prolific offenders pubuc dangerous and prolific offenders public safe. >> conceivably, i know it will not be as black and white as this, then, if this, but conceivably then, if the 9% were locked up, the worst 9% were locked up, there is the potential for crime to be reduced by about 52. >> yeah, i think it would have a very big and immediate impact on crime. and it's also a statement about what kind of country we want to live in. i think you and i would agree that we want to live in country where people live in a country where people are chance. i are given a second chance. i don't necessarily don't think people necessarily should be given a third or fourth or fifth chance. i certainly don't think people should be given a 45th chance. and so let's have a fundamentally different approach

to crime, locking up these prolific offenders and keeping the public much more safe. >> so that's the first part of that interview. now, in the second part, mrjenrick makes some astonishing claims about the prime minister, rishi sunak, and how little he appears to care levels of care about record levels of immigration. but there's quite a lot for us to react to there and here to do it. is the apprentice finalist, entrepreneurjoana finalist, entrepreneur joana jaflue finalist, entrepreneur joana jarjue commentator jarjue political commentator alex armstrong and ex itv and bbc dog john bbc political top dog john sergeant. look, two topics that we that i'd like us sergeant. look, two topics that wedeal that i'd like us sergeant. look, two topics that wedeal with that i'd like us sergeant. look, two topics that wedeal with botht i'd like us sergeant. look, two topics that wedeal with both ofd like us sergeant. look, two topics that we deal with both of them us sergeant. look, two topics that we deal with both of them now. to deal with both of them now. the first one is that robert jenrick proposing and asking jenrick is proposing and asking mps to sign up to an update. an amendment to the criminal justice mean justice bill. that would mean that every months, basically that every 12 months, basically the of state the relevant secretary of state would have to publish the information, which would be crime by nationality. so that would include the nationality and visa or asylum status of every offender convicted in the courts of england and wales in

the previous 12 months. alex, do we have a right to know this? >> oh, absolutely we do. and i'm rather shocked that we don't know this information. and the fact that gb news has tried to get as a as a get this information as a as a news and then report on news outlet and then report on it just goes to these, it just goes back to these, these statements which people say, oh, they're mad. they're mad. comment , say, oh, they're mad. they're mad. comment, is mad. this deep state comment, is there a deep state trying to hide information from the public? well, when you hear things like this, you begin to wonder, is that statement wonder, well, is that statement actually not actually true? why are we not publishing statistics? why actually true? why are we not thhis 1ing statistics? why actually true? why are we not thhis only statistics? why actually true? why are we not thhis only coming atistics? why actually true? why are we not thhis only coming to ;tics? why actually true? why are we not thhis only coming to light why is this only coming to light now? should be public now? this should be on public record enters record for anybody who enters the quite frankly, record for anybody who enters the anyone quite frankly, record for anybody who enters the anyone who quite frankly, record for anybody who enters the anyone who livese frankly, record for anybody who enters the anyone who livese fbritain, for anyone who lives in britain, it absolutely bonkers. for anyone who lives in britain, it yeah..olutely bonkers. for anyone who lives in britain, it yeah. andely bonkers. for anyone who lives in britain, it yeah. andely look,3rs. it >> yeah. and so look, as it stands, i've said again, we are going to appeal this foi rejection decision . but mr rejection decision. but mr jenrick there john does appear to have a around which to have a way around this, which is that he can get this amendment at the time we amendment at the time that we recorded anyway, amendment at the time that we r

what number right now. what that number is. right now. i'll ask you the same question, though. do you think that we have, as a british public, the right to know what is going on? i mean, he says there as former immigration knows immigration minister, he knows for a fact we imported for a fact that we have imported criminals of them are criminals and some of them are sex criminals. >> i m n m- >> yeah. no, i mean, i think it's perfectly straightforward . it's perfectly straightforward. i obviously journalist i obviously from a journalist point always want to point of view, we always want to know things and more know more things and more information. slight know more things and more inforofation. slight know more things and more inforof concern slight know more things and more inforof concern i've slight know more things and more inforof concern i've got ight know more things and more inforof concern i've got igihow sort of concern i've got is how much you and much detail do you give and how how narrow the how much do you narrow down the areas you're talking about? because there is a problem of increasing racial tension, and you've got to make sure that what you do doesn't, in fact inflame situations which needn't be inflamed. now, this is quite different from saying overall, what's going on? what are the overall figures? so i suspect that for experts in these areas, they want a bit more detail as to how much you're going to pubush to how much you're going to publish and how much you're going to go on publishing and

making sure you don't offend the public. good. that's all. okay, joanna, again, robert jenrick has followed up. >> now the interview that we've done here with article that done here with an article that will telegraph will be in the telegraph tomorrow well, tomorrow calling for, well, essentially a migrant crime league table referencing what's going where going on in denmark, where you can people kuwait, can see that people from kuwait, tunisia, somalia tunisia, lebanon, somalia have far, rates of far, far higher rates of criminality than the native danes.is criminality than the native danes. is that something you think that we should be able to know here so we can add that to our discussion when we're talking either illegal talking about either illegal immigration dare i say, even immigration or, dare i say, even net legally ? net migration legally? >> well, does the country have a right to know? absolutely, yes. i think we have a right to know everything and anything, my everything and anything, but my thing with this is what is it actually change? actually going to change? because you know, they know round about who's coming on these boats. for example, when we're illegal we're looking at illegal migration seekers. migration and asylum seekers. but instead of focusing on that, i almost feel as if this is just going to be another talking point. so if he does actually get this over the line, then it gets point where we gets to the point where we discuss what discuss it. but actually what is he it? so

he actually doing about it? so he's you know , he's talking about, you know, the crimes that are being committed at the hotels. >> the issue will be, >> i think the issue will be, will it be much harder for politicians to try to sweep it under the rug if it was known? again, i do want to emphasise i'm at pains to emphasise that we do not know by definition what these figures are going to show. it might show. i know a lot of people would argue that one is one one sex attacker is one too many. yeah, and it is, but it might massive might not show a massive correlation. it might not show that the numbers are disproportionately that the numbers are disprop> this is the point, right? we have to deal with facts. if we don't can't don't have facts, we can't make informed it's informed decisions. and it's in the public interest to what the public interest to know what the public interest to know what the we shouldn't the facts are. and we shouldn't be the facts because be shy of the facts because we might and upset them. >> but even if you know the facts, though, alex, know >> but even if you know the factfacts.ugh, alex, know >> but even if you know the factfacts. ugh, at ex, know >> but even if you know the factfacts. ugh, at ex, point|ow the facts. but at the point is, all these are coming all these people are coming through of through irregular means. some of them and, them are actually illegal and, you know, economic migrants, but also genuine also some of them are genuine asylum no matter also some of them are genuine asylu stats no matter also some of them are genuine asylu stats actuallyo matter also some of them are genuine asylu stats actually publish, also some of them are genuine asyluststill actually publish,

also some of them are genuine asylu st still goingrally publish, also some of them are genuine asyluststill goingrallendiblish, they're still going to end up in these we're going these hotels. we're still going to a day to be paying £8 million a day for well it might, so might >> well it might, so that might make us more inclined to adopt a tougher approach. >> to emphasise >> again, just want to emphasise we're you the we're going to play you the second interview shortly. jenrick interview shortly. but the got jenrick interview shortly. but theyou got jenrick interview shortly. but theyou there, got jenrick interview shortly. but theyou there, really, got jenrick interview shortly. but theyou there, really, which ot for you there, really, which we'll you again, is we'll bring to you again, is that jenrick looking we'll bring to you again, is th.put jenrick looking we'll bring to you again, is th.putforward1rick looking we'll bring to you again, is th.put forward 1ric|amendment to put forward an amendment to the bill that the criminal justice bill that would mean that the nationality and of offenders and visa status of offenders would be into the public would be brought into the public domain, says. he has a lot of domain, he says. he has a lot of backing from that. we're going to follow it all the way here. and way and that is, frankly, the way around. to be an around. what appears to be an attempt hide that attempt anyway, to hide that information there we information from us. so there we go. look, coming up, we are going to discussing, going to be discussing, of course , as easter is upon us course, as easter is upon us now, whether or not ramadan is more popular than easter in some quarters. but next, yes, we hear the rest that exclusive the rest of that exclusive interview with robert jenrick and, incredible and, well, some incredible revelations anyway, about his relationship with rishi sunak and rishi sunaks apparent,

welcome back to patrick christys tonight, now, this is the second instalment of my interview with former immigration minister robert jenrick. now rishi sunak has repeatedly claimed to care about legal immigration. he has repeatedly said that he wants to bnng repeatedly said that he wants to bring net migration down. what you're about to hear from a man who was supposed to have fortnightly meetings with the

prime topic of prime minister on the topic of immigration is quite staggering. here trust or listen to, here it is. trust or listen to, i should say, with some interest, a, piece that you did, with allison pearson, who's a regular panellist on this show. it appeared my understanding from this was that you had to do quite a bit of convincing for rishi sunak when it comes to him taking immigration seriously, and actually looking to cut it in any way, shape or form. does he really take it seriously, do you think when it comes to mass immigration? >> well, i didn't feel that the prime minister understood the importance legal migration to importance of legal migration to the british public. it was an issue that i have cared about for a long time. i shared that conviction suella braverman conviction with suella braverman , the home secretary at the time. and i met the prime time. she and i met the prime minister approximately every fortnight about home fortnight to talk about home office issues like stopping the boats, like security and policing. never once did we have a conversation about legal migration, because the prime minister didn't want to talk

about it. and so ultimately, the conversation that i had with him in november and early december was after i'd made it clear to him the people around him him and the people around him that was unsustainable. i that this was unsustainable. i wasn't to continue in my wasn't willing to continue in my role as immigration minister unless we tackled illegal migration, and we did. as a result of that, we announced within days of having a proper meeting, a significant set of measures that will cut legal migration by 300,000. but again, to me, that was a beginning, not an end. and since i left office, we've seen no further measures . we've seen no further measures. whilst i think we need to get that down to the tens of thousands, something much more sustainable for this country, i think people will find it absolutely astonishing, especially conservative especially for a conservative prime minister. >> there appeared to be no real appetite to engage in the migration discussion, despite himself times himself saying numerous times publicly he really have publicly that he really did have it top priorities. it as one of his top priorities. he wanted reduce net he wanted to reduce net migration. look, there's a lot of noises, mr jenrick

migration. look, there's a lot of noises, mrjenrick. migration. look, there's a lot of noises, mr jenrick . about of noises, mr jenrick. about whether or not the prime minister will see it to the next election and what could happen to conservative after election and what could happen to nextynservative after election and what could happen to next election le after election and what could happen to next election le he after election and what could happen to next election le he does,er the next election if he does, would consider being running the next election if he does, w0|leader consider being running the next election if he does, w0|leader ofynsider being running the next election if he does, w0|leader of the ier being running the next election if he does, w0|leader of the toryzing running the next election if he does, w0|leader of the tory partanning the next election if he does, w0|leader of the tory party or|ing for leader of the tory party or being prime minister? >> well, i don't think that is the question. at the moment. we have prime minister in rishi have a prime minister in rishi sunak , and the point i've tried sunak, and the point i've tried to make since resigned is to make since i resigned is actually isn't actually that this isn't primarily about personalities. it's the course of the it's about the course of the country. think needs country. and i think there needs to change. of course. and to be a change. of course. and one those in one of those areas is in immigration. we're clearly going down the wrong path. we're living net living in a country with net migration 700,000, and migration of 6 or 700,000, and we're the boats . in we're not stopping the boats. in fact, the numbers crossing the channel currently channel are currently increasing. whatever happens channel are currently increasor]. whatever happens channel are currently increasor afterwhatever happens channel are currently increasor after the tever happens channel are currently increasor after the tever generals before or after the next general election, what matters to me is that we have a fundamentally different approach to some of these issues. and as we've these key issues. and as we've just discussed a moment ago, i would add to that crime , because would add to that crime, because i want a fundamentally different approach to how we keep our streets safe and we tackle those persistent offenders. just, just

so i'm clear on something before i let you get going, then, when you were having your fortnightly meetings with the prime minister, about minister, predominantly about illegal immigration, would you try about legal . immigration >> and it was just batted away. >> and it was just batted away. >> yes. >> yes. >> you know, both suella and i wrote on a number of occasions, often together, sometimes on our own. the own. i wrote privately to the prime the prime minister setting out the case reducing legal case for reducing legal migration, didn't migration, and we didn't routinely get responses to those letters. i think that the prime minister, like others, took the view that legal migration didn't matter and that brexit, if it was anything, was about taking back control but not bringing down the numbers . i disagree down the numbers. i disagree with that. i think that brexit was one of a number of votes by the british public throughout my lifetime , which has been about lifetime, which has been about not just taking control of the levers , but using them to bring levers, but using them to bring down the level of net migration to this country and building a

different economic model based on investing in our own people and productivity, not just importing foreign labour. that's what need to do now. what we need to do now. that is the future the conservative the future of the conservative party >> well, we put some of those comments to number 10 and here is how they have responded. a government spokesperson the is how they have responded. a goverrministerokesperson the is how they have responded. a goverr minister has person the is how they have responded. a goverr minister has beenn the prime minister has been unambiguously prime minister has been unambilevelsy prime minister has been unambilevels of migration to current levels of migration to the uk are far too high. that's why last year we announced the biggest ever package of measures any prime minister has delivered to reduce net migration, meaning that 300,000 people who came to the legally last year will no the uk legally last year will no longer be able to come. the government committed to government is committed to transparency and already publishes huge amounts of immigration data. caseworkers can decisions on can make decisions on criminality considering criminality when considering immigration . we immigration applications. we will foreign nationals will remove foreign nationals who hospitality by who abuse our hospitality by committing crimes. i mean, john, the standout things there for me were the former immigration minister saying that the prime minister did not, not once was the quote that not once wanted to talk to him about legal immigration. and he is of the

view as well , that our prime view as well, that our prime minister does not see a problem with massive levels of immigration. >> yeah. and what we don't know is obviously usually a prime minister thinks, can we stick to the agenda? you don't, in fact, get your ministers in. and having wide ranging discussions because life isn't like that. immigration know , immigration minister, i know, but what you then as in fact robert jenrick admits is they then did go ahead and have a general discussion. now of course, you can consider the whole policy about immigration and this conservative government. you have to be aware of the fact that the prime minister is the first. you know , minister is the first. you know, minister is the first. you know, minister of colour, if you want to describe it that way , to be to describe it that way, to be prime minister. he's very concerned about being seen to play concerned about being seen to play the race card, which is not just a moral issue, but it's also politically astute. you've got to be very careful not to appear to be taking sides on that. almost everyone agrees about illegal migration and illegal immigrants , and

illegal immigrants, and therefore for him, that's where he wants to sit. most of his policy behind, frankly, because it's easier politically . it's easier politically. >> i mean, what did you make of that? i think john is taking quite a sympathetic view towards rishi there. fair enough. rishi sunak there. fair enough. how make what rishi sunak there. fair enough. how jenrick make what rishi sunak there. fair enough. how jenrick hasmake what rishi sunak there. fair enough. how jenrick has just; what rishi sunak there. fair enough. how jenrick has just saithat there? >> look, three elections for the tories referendum every tories, one referendum in every single one of those elections or referendums. the topic of immigration has been one of the highest priorities for the british people , and they have british people, and they have voted time and time again to get those legal and to those numbers down, legal and to for illegal, rishi sunak not to be taking this seriously is an absolute crime , as prime absolute crime, as prime minister, i mean, it's the reason why the tory party is crashing in the polls my, my crashing in the polls and my, my problem with, with robert jenrick is when he left office, he never called rishi sunak to resign. if he's saying rishi is not taking me seriously or not taking immigration taking illegal immigration seriously, the seriously, why not call for the prime minister resign and prime minister to resign and install going to prime minister to resign and insthat? going to prime minister to resign and insthat? it's going to prime minister to resign and insthat? it's quite going to prime minister to resign and insthat? it's quite obviousing to prime minister to resign and insthat? it's quite obvious to to prime minister to resign and instthat it's quite obvious to to prime minister to resign and instthat thatquite obvious to to prime minister to resign and instthat that that obvious to to prime minister to resign and instthat that that obvious to no me that that that sunak has no intention of fixing this issue.

as we spoke about earlier on in the show, for his obvious next career move . career move. >> okay. go on john. >> okay. go on john. >> yeah, i mean, we also have to kind of take a step back and look at the context of where we've got to when it comes to net migration. it's at record highs. but also there's been unique things that have happened. there's been the ukraine resettlement scheme. there's been, you know, hong kong, of kong, there's been, all sorts of things happened that things that have happened that have this high. that's have made it this high. that's one also i think that one thing. but also i think that rishi sunak smart enough rishi sunak is smart enough to understand rishi sunak is smart enough to underrquick fix, that you just like a quick fix, that you just turn off it comes turn the tap off when it comes to net migration. this is legal migration a big chunk migration and even a big chunk of that as well is students. and the income that this country gets students in gets from students is in billions. you've got billions. and then you've got things like he's saying about, you know, reskilling workers that takes time. then who that takes time. and then who pays isit that takes time. and then who pays is it going to pays for that? is it going to be the companies? then prices go up. of us, up. for the rest of us, it's going taxpayers. it going to be the taxpayers. it needs strategy at the needs the full strategy at the right time. and sunak right time. and rishi sunak understands he's understands that. whereas he's chasing soundbites while he's chasing soundbites while he's chasing . chasing soundbites. >> okay. i do think it is deeply

concerning and potentially quite surprising for a lot of people to realise that you have a former immigration minister there that he would try there saying that he would try to have regular conversations with the prime minister about record of migration. the record levels of migration. the prime minister didn't to prime minister didn't appear to have that. he have any appetite to do that. he also pointed to the idea that there something there was something psychologically at it. can i just on really? just touch as well on on really? what major of what was another major point of that immigration that interview on immigration based, level based, which was about the level of we've got, saying of crime that we've got, saying that of crime is that around 52% of crime is committed by about of people committed by about 9% of people and they're and robert jenrick they're being very , very clear. he's saying very, very clear. he's saying that we need to build more prisons. john. >> yeah. no, i mean, i agree with all that. i think that, you know, one of the problems the government's is government's had throughout is to know, will the to sort of, you know, will the end, not the means. to sort of, you know, will the end, not the means . and the end, but not the means. and the idea that you can in all sorts of areas that you can just say, we should be doing more of this, we should be doing more of this, we should be doing more of this, we should give more money to this, do and you this, we should do that. and you do extraordinary lack of do feel as extraordinary lack of coherence comes to are coherence when it comes to are there of course. there enough prisons of course. are there enough roads? are there hospitals? over

there enough hospitals? but over wide areas of public services we've been failed . we've been failed. >> and alex, very quickly on this now he said that there was one shocking case of a man who was committed 44 separate offences and still not been sent to prison. >> it's absolutely insane to hear that. isn't really , hear that. isn't it really, really shocking? again, statistics we don't hear very often. interview . i often. so great interview. i just want to give the one country in the world that has solved problem through country in the world that has solved massiveem through country in the world that has solved massive prisonyugh country in the world that has solved massive prison in h country in the world that has solved massive prison in el building massive prison in el salvador, used to be one salvador, which used to be one of most dangerous countries salvador, which used to be one of the most dangerous countries salvador, which used to be one of the planet, ngerous countries salvador, which used to be one of the planet, it'srous countries salvador, which used to be one of the planet, it'srous saferries on the planet, it's now safer than any western country in the world because the president over there has tackled all the gangs. he people without he has arrested people without without worrying about any repercussions as to whether they were, you know, parts of gangs or not. he's gone full force, and they have solved their problem. and that's what we should do, too. >> one last thing >> just one last thing he mentioned in the mentioned as well, in the interview you know, interview about, you know, western interview about, you know, weste with that to an extent. agree with that to an extent. but also, we've seen the breaking news of breaking news today of a politician in the dup leader who is case. yes, but is being active case. yes, but

you know what i mean. it kind of puts it in the forefront that we should be very careful when it comes to pigeonholing people from background. from a certain background. >> all right. >> absolutely, yes. all right. look, you very much, all look, thank you very much, all of sir. another good of you, sir. it's another good start to the hour. right. let's. yes. when i come back, we're going have all of tomorrow's going to have all of tomorrow's newspaper you newspaper from pages for you today. stay tuned bang today. so stay tuned to be bang across tomorrow's news

okay. -- okay. i have all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you right now. let's do it . we start right now. let's do it. we start with the daily express. tory mps warn voting for reform uk will kill brexit. it's a bold move that and, okay, we go on to the independent turmoil as union leader resigns over sex offence charges. northern ireland is rocked by historical allegations against dup chief and longest serving mp sirjeffrey serving mp sir jeffrey donaldson. that's the front of the independent. the times nhs

patients facing long waits to get private care . and they also, get private care. and they also, of course, have that dup leader and woman charged over sex offences. the i marooned by cuts to buses 16 miles, sorry, 16 million miles of routes. axe. yes cash strapped councils across england have cut more than 90% of their bus services. it is especially a problem for elderly people rural areas elderly people in rural areas and something that does need to be rectified. the mirror lotto forger goes free. £2.5 million ticket fraudster out of jail after just half of his nine year turn. okay well, there we go, right. so those are the first draft of front pages. i'm going to throw it over now to former bbc and itv political top dog, john sergeant to discuss what is on the front of quite a few national newspapers tomorrow. and i'll read the independent first, then turmoil as unionist

leader resigns over sex offence charges john. >> well of course, i mean, the real problem is sir geoffrey donaldson's career now looks as if it's old. his political career. but he's the one that, with a party with lots of difficulty and lots of argument behind the scenes, managed to get power sharing back in stormont and stormont going local government going in northern ireland after two years of delay . so this is a critical of delay. so this is a critical point. they're just betting the system down after two months and then this scandal erupts. now then this scandal erupts. now the man who helped negotiate this deal on the dup side was is now the new leader. so that's gavin robinson, interim leader. so that is a good sign. it means in terms of when i say a good sign, it means in terms of can they up the momentum of they keep up the momentum of this very important political story , nothing to do with the story, nothing to do with the charges and all the rest of it. can they do that? can they get through this period? can they re—establish frankly, democracy

through this period? can they re-northern1 frankly, democracy through this period? can they re-northern ireland?y, democracy through this period? can they re-northern ireland?y, dthat'sacy in northern ireland? so that's incredibly important. and suddenly you get this completely . sort of blind side thing going on. nothing to do with all this. but it does have an effect on northern ireland for people like me troubles me who covered the troubles years , we sort of hold our years ago, we sort of hold our breath and think, oh, can they just get through this bit? just get through this next bit? can few more can they just have a few more months , at least, of power months, at least, of power sharing before being thrown into turmoil again? because northern ireland just needs stability . ireland just needs stability. they need government. and they need a government. and that's i say, not just that's why, as i say, not just people like me, but for everybody in northern ireland, that's what people are worried about and that's what concerns them. that's what should them. and that's what should worry all. worry us all. >> indeed. look, >> yeah, indeed. well, look, well expressed. obviously we will particular case will leave that particular case there for now, but just moving on. london, as we all know, is very multicultural city and the uk is becoming increasingly multicultural. if you live in birmingham, for example , or, birmingham, for example, or, greater manchester, i mean, everywhere it? but

everywhere really, isn't it? but isuppose everywhere really, isn't it? but i suppose we are technically still a christian country, aren't we? but when you walk aren't we? but now when you walk through of major cities through parts of major cities like lights like london, the lights displayed here, they say, happy ramadan. now this is easter weekend . shouldn't they say weekend. shouldn't they say happy easter? should we have both? is ramadan now more popular than easter? now, alex, i'll start with you. i mean, what do you make of this? i suppose an argument against all of this would be that those ramadan lights that we saw there were by a billionaire were paid for by a billionaire businessman, christians were paid for by a billionaire busimore nan, christians were paid for by a billionaire busimore strongly christians were paid for by a billionaire busimore strongly chritheirs felt more strongly about their faith, then they could pay to have the lights up. can they? >> well, look, i think really the argument should be about respectfulness. you it's respectfulness. you know, it's a very, holy very, very it's the most holy weekend christians across weekend for christians across the country and, and traditionally always been traditionally has always been one the most, should i say. one of the most, should i say. and these lights up and to have these lights up dunng and to have these lights up during that weekend to me seems very touch . i don't blame very out of touch. i don't blame the man who's funded it, because surely he's just trying to do good for his community. the good for his community. it's the it's westminster it's the labour run westminster council. we've only had that council years who are council for two years who are

making these decisions, and there should have been someone in said , in that council that said, actually, look bad us? >> okay, all right. joanna, what do you think about about this? do you think that maybe there is perhaps focus on other perhaps more of a focus on other religions as opposed to christianity? you're shaking your hat. no no, no, i don't at all. >> and i think things like this are completely blown out of proportion. if i go to dubai, there's christmas trees, you know , and even though it's know, and here, even though it's a country, how many of a christian country, how many of you actually go to church on christmas day? or how many of you are going to be attending church on sunday? on easter sunday? so i think sometimes we blow out of blow these things out of proportion. it blow these things out of propprivately it blow these things out of propprivately funded. it blow these things out of propprivately funded. it's it blow these things out of propprivately funded. it's not was privately funded. it's not like taxpayers money from like it was taxpayers money from a and i think a christian country. and i think it's to be it's another thing to be outraged about when we get to a point where we actually start banning and things banning easter eggs and things like people like that, or telling people that actually, that they can't actually, well, gesture eggs. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, but even that makes a mockery, for me , i'm mockery, like, for me, i'm catholic and easter eggs, but you not see the problem don't actually represent it's become a gimmicky commercial.

>> do you not see the problem here. it's it's here. it's, it's a, it's a washing of christian traditions and, replacement and this is and, and replacement and this is what people feel you may, you may, you may not think that it's a big and i do agree that a big issue. and i do agree that these get over these things do get over exaggerated. you not see exaggerated. but you do not see the it look wrong, and the optics of it look wrong, and that was during that if this was done during an islamic jewish that if this was done during an islamic people jewish that if this was done during an islamic people would wish that if this was done during an islamic people would also feel period, people would also feel that outrage in those. >> no, i don't think so, because if it was widespread across the uk and it became law, then fine. and was replacing easter and if it was replacing easter lights don't exist, that lights which don't exist, that went very quickly. >> i just wish would >> i just wish people would remember the importance of remember that the importance of easter, which it's easter, which is it's not christmas, not birth christmas, it's not the birth of christmas, it's not the birth of christ , it's total christ, it's not total celebration. christ on celebration. jesus christ on friday is crucified. he's resurrected. and then people celebrate on easter sunday. i wish there was a slight feeling that this is telling a very dramatic story, which is affecting people for nearly 2000 years, and isn't just, oh, let's have another holiday. >> can i just can i just open another can of worms here? >> which is you mentioned

washing the christian faith. you mentioned a dramatic story. this is a dramatic story about a lack of washing. jonathan ross. jonathan ross has openly admitted that he only showers once a week. excuse me. it's enough to make you choke, isn't it? and he thinks it's a waste of time. he confessed that he once went two weeks without washing in the united states because he'd been in a swimming pool because he'd been in a swimming pool, but then he discovered he still smelled badly. jonathan ross doesn't wash. apparently. i find this astonishing. i'm absolutely astonishing. joanna. what should we be calling him? gross. jonathan jonathan. jonathan. gross >> that's so poor. >> that's so poor. >> come on. »- >> come on. >> i don't want to call him gross, but this is gross. and actually, i feel like stories like this always seem to come from celebrities that can afford a bill compared to other a water bill compared to other people. but it reminded me also of mila kunis and ashton kutcher saying that they don't really believe in bathing their children too much. then there was story of some people was another story of some people saying they don't wash their

legs because the legs in the shower because the water just legs in the shower because the waterjust apparently naturally water just apparently naturally runs this runs down. things like this really , really, really gross me really, really, really gross me out. but also, why would you volunteer this information? why would you? >> need yeah. and his >> i didn't need yeah. and his poor poor. doesn't. >> she does as well, though. >> she does it as well, though. she as well. >> she does it as well, though. she it as well. >> she does it as well, though. she it says as well. >> she does it as well, though. she it says ins well. >> she does it as well, though. she it says in theell. >> she does it as well, though. she it says in the article she >> it says in the article she doesit >> it says in the article she does it to a feather. does it to birds of a feather. >> oh, gross. >> oh, gross. >> also, the other thing is, just yourself a simple just ask yourself a simple question. want imagine question. do you want to imagine jonathan question. do you want to imagine jon i:han couldn't think of >> i really couldn't think of anything answer clearly anything worse answer is clearly no , i do not. no, i do not. >> could you please talk? i like to imagine. >> i would like to imagine, though, that he does occasionally shower. it's one thing but now. thing imagining him. but now. now he does now i know that he barely does once fortnight. >> once. >> once. >> i think fairly >> i think he's fairly rebarbative without thinking about him. not shower. >> great word. >> that's a great word. >> that's a great word. >> now look, it's time for >> okay, now look, it's time for something different. >> okay, now look, it's time for sorthey ng different. >> okay, now look, it's time for sorthey say, different. >> okay, now look, it's time for sorthey say, a different. >> okay, now look, it's time for sorthey say, a triedfferent. as they say, a lady tried to test how deep a river was. always a mistake. okay and accidentally got more than she bargained for. let's have a little look . oh, no wonder this little look. oh, no wonder this ridiculous .

ridiculous. >> no! oh, for goodness sake ! >> no! oh, for goodness sake! what the hell did you get in? >> why did i make go in? yeah, the blind leading. >> the blind, isn't it? >> the blind, isn't it? >> honestly, you've seen what's happened right? >> honestly, you've seen what's hapwhy�*d right? >> honestly, you've seen what's hapwhy has right? >> honestly, you've seen what's hapwhy has that right? >> honestly, you've seen what's hapwhy has that happened now to >> why has that happened now to you anyway? i hope it wasn't full coli or anything like full of e coli or anything like that. right. coming up, our panel greatest that. right. coming up, our panel and greatest that. right. coming up, our panel and union greatest that. right. coming up, our panel and union jackasses. st britons and union jackasses. plus >> oh, we've got breaking news. >> oh, we've got breaking news. >> oh, we've got breaking news. >> oh, what? oh, gosh. i wonder what's wrong with that? david lammy has just dropped her a massive clanger . yes, plus a massive clanger. yes, plus a cemetery has cancelled their easter egg hunt after being branded inappropriate. but why? apart it's in apart from the fact that it's in a i'll you. a cemetery, i'll tell you. a sack.

welcome back to patrick christys. tonight, i have got the rest of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you. let's do it

right. we start with the daily telegraph. plan for league table of migrant crime. well, yeah , we of migrant crime. well, yeah, we got this scoop as well. robert jenrick here. senior tories demand detailed analysis to toughen visa and deportation policies . we are speaking a lot policies. we are speaking a lot about this. do we have a right to know where people are coming from and what crimes they are committing here in britain? let's go to the daily mail. labour trusted on defence labour more trusted on defence than the tories. wow, that is a headune than the tories. wow, that is a headline will be raising a headline that will be raising a few eyebrows in number 10, a poll reveals that voters now associate with associate conservatives with cutting not cutting military spending, not increasing it. wow. let's go to the guardian schools risk fuelling hate by avoiding talking about the gaza war. that's what they say there. and let's finish with the daily star. why not? at last, our soldiers are allowed to grow beards, but only quote proper ones and there's dad's army at ones and there's dad's army at one their dad's harry army. oh, we've got the sun as well. good easter chocolate crisis . brits easter chocolate crisis. brits face shortage as prices soar .

face shortage as prices soar. bake off threat to axe tv special. they call it . chocky special. they call it. chocky horror. there we go. right. okay, so those are all of your front pages. i think the, most fascinating one there is the public. now do apparently. anyway see the tories as the party military cuts and party of military cuts and labour has been more trusted on defence. i that is really defence. i mean, that is really a shift. let's be a massive shift. let's be perfectly you, if perfectly honest with you, if that actually case and that is actually the case and you that the you know, something that the tories would maybe need to address, but would you take your child to an egg hunt in a child to an easter egg hunt in a cemetery? well, wrexham cemetery thought it would be a great idea. yeah, they had to cancel it after receiving quite a lot of backlash, people said it felt inappropriate as they had relatives buried there. did you think this was a good or a bad idea? remarkable stuff. i mean, you know, these people are quite harebrained, aren't they? i don't know about when the last time any of you went on easter egg hunt, daresay you egg hunt, but i daresay you probably done it probably wouldn't have done it in so, yeah. in a cemetery. so, yeah. >> i will say, though,

>> i mean, i will say, though, look, if you read article look, if you read the article through through, reason through and through, the reason why they were doing it is because young because they wanted young people to preservation of to engage in the preservation of cemeteries, are usually cemeteries, and they are usually very places, very beautiful places, cemeteries. whether cemeteries. i don't know whether i feel it was a little bit out of touch to maybe do an easter egg hunt. >> what do you say? egg hunt. >> it hat do you say? egg hunt. >> it wasio you say? egg hunt. >> it was a you say? egg hunt. >> it was a grave ay? egg hunt. >> it was a grave error of judgement. >> i would be brave, patrick. judgement. >> i vivou. be brave, patrick. judgement. >> i vivou. but brave, patrick. judgement. >> i vivou. but brav> oh, we've got breaking news that sir jeffrey donaldson has resigned as leader of the dup . resigned as leader of the dup. >> hang on a minute. could i just ask? i don't know if we can do this, guys. could we just

play do this, guys. could we just play that again? because anyone just maybe what is what we just see, maybe what is what we think here. think might be wrong here. go on. oh, we've got breaking news >> oh, we've got breaking news that sir jeffrey donaldson has resigned as leader of the dup . resigned as leader of the dup. >> we've got breaking news for you. okay? david lammy is a serving politician and should not be breaking any news on his own show on radio. so there we go. just thought i'd, address that. anyway, it is time to bnng that. anyway, it is time to bring you today's greatest britain and union jackass. bring you today's greatest britain and union jackass . all britain and union jackass. all right. okay, joanna, i'll start with you. who's your greatest britain please. >> mine is a guy called dan daffyd. a scotland shopkeeper who actually ordered too many easter eggs and ended up raising £3,000, for charity, good for him. so good for him. >> okay. >> okay. >> bad situation. >> bad situation. >> it's a very, very nice start. >> okay. come on. >> okay. come on. >> well, look, patrick, it's good friday. it's an easter

weekend. we're complaining about this being christian this not being christian enough. so honorary so of course, my honorary greatest is, course, greatest britain is, of course, jesus himself, greatest britain is, of course, jesus himself , jesus christ. >> all right. it's gonna be hard to john. yeah. to beat john. yeah. >> no, no, no, let's keep trying . that's trying to be normal about this . about this. >> oh. >> oh. >> how offensive. >> how offensive. >> yeah. no. it is jesus christ superstar. i know, but look. no, it's the king. of course , isn't it's the king. of course, isn't it? now, coming out of his obviously very difficult period for him. but he's going to attend the service easter service on sunday at windsor. and as far as i'm concerned, that just shows he's a great king. >> oh, lovely . okay. all right, >> oh, lovely. okay. all right, well, today's honorary greatest britain is jesus christ. so there we go. >> he's the king of kings. i'll be honest. >> he's the king of kings. i'll be i'llest. >> he's the king of kings. i'll be i'll be. >> he's the king of kings. i'll be i'll be honest you. >> i'll be honest with you. i want jesus want someone presents. jesus christ, now. christ, i can't really say now. okay, let's round it off, okay, so let's round it off, joanna, with your union jacks, please. jack are actually >> my union jack are actually the of thames water the shareholders of thames water who backed out of giving £500 million of funding to improve infrastructure . yet they take

infrastructure. yet they take ridiculous amounts of dividends and also expect the rest of us to pay more to fix. >> it'll be a popular choice. >> it'll be a popular choice. >> it'll be a popular choice. >> it'll be a very popular choice with our viewers. actually, john, i must go on. >> alex, mine are the tory party advisers are fleeing the advisers who are fleeing the opposite way to keir starmer, but had i heard your breaking news just then, patrick, i probably would have picked david lammy. probably would have picked david lanyeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> be very careful >> yeah. be very careful with those but go those words then. but yeah. go on. go on. your , who's on. go on. who's your, who's your union jackass? >> paula vennells. i mean, she's the former head of the post office. she's not saying anything. was there the anything. she was there at the height got height of the scandal. we've got all problems emerging all kinds of problems emerging every day in evidence. and the lawyers are saying it would be inappropriate for her and the other leaders discuss other former leaders to discuss things while the inquiry is going on. well, that is just absurd. she should say something, even if she says i'm sorry. even if she says i worry about all these things, i'll be giving the full details when i when the inquiry is over. but to say absolutely nothing is outrageous.

>> look, i tossed a coin on those two before and i landed on paula vennells as today's union jack carson. thank you very much. wonderful show. thank you, thank have thank you, thank you. have a very everybody. very happy easter, everybody. i'll monday at nine. i'll see you on monday at nine. a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecasts on the metal as we go through the rest of this easter weekend. for most of us, we continue to see the mix of some sunshine, but also the risk of some rain at times. it's all courtesy of this area of low pressure, which is hang around as we is going to hang around as we go through few days. but through the next few days. but with from the with winds coming up from the south, feel a little south, it should feel a little bit so as end good bit less cold. so as we end good friday, still the risk of some showers of scotland showers across parts of scotland , northern ireland, maybe western england western fringes of england and wales, elsewhere turning wales, but elsewhere turning clear with the risk of a few misty patches forming come dawn, and also a touch of frost in the countryside . so we do start

countryside. so we do start saturday off on a bit of a chilly note, but some sunshine from the word go. risk of a little bit cloud and patchy little bit of cloud and patchy rain reaching the very far rain just reaching the very far east england and the main east of england and the main focus of any showers tomorrow will be again across more western and northern parts of the country, but there should be a little bit fewer and further between to today . so between compared to today. so temperature wise in the sunshine. not feeling too bad. highs around 14 or 15 highs reaching around 14 or 15 degrees. having a look at easter day. a bit of a cloudy start across many eastern parts, but that will burn its way back towards the north sea. so for many again, it's another day of some sunny spells. risk of a few showers, potentially a little bit way of bit more in the way of persistent rain just in persistent rain just arriving in the south western the very far south western corner. that sets us up for corner. and that sets us up for a bit of north south split on a bit of a north south split on monday. grey and wet in monday. rather grey and wet in the hanging to the the south, but hanging on to the sunshine north. sunshine further north. >> that feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good evening. from the gb newsroom. you're watching and listening to gb news. our top story at 11:00, the new leader of the democratic unionist party has condemned what he calls conspiracy theories and cheap political point scoring following criminal charges brought against sir jeffrey donaldson. the shock resignation

of the dup's former leader and the longest serving mp in northern ireland came after he was accused of serious historical sex offences. gavin robinson was unanimously appointed as the interim leader, and he said that the charges against donaldson were a devastating revelation . devastating revelation. meanwhile, rishi sunak is facing yet more criticism for awarding a major conservative donor a knighthood as part of a controversial honours list. sir mohamed mansour gave £5 million to the tories last year and was knighted for what's described as services to business, to charity and politics. labour, though, have condemned the award as an arrogant act of an entitled man. and they added that the donations shouldn't be an automatic pass to honours . a automatic pass to honours. a former government minister claims that rishi sunak doesn't understand the importance of tackling legal migration. speaking to gb news, robert jenrick , who resigned from his jenrick, who resigned from his post in december, says the prime minister didn't want to talk about the issue when it was