been accused of failing to keep britain safe in a dangerous world by refusing to say if they'll match the government's pledge on defence spending. so, as sunak torpedo showed starmer on those defence spending plans . on those defence spending plans. >> a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales. >> research. researchers from the university of cambridge have in a landmark new study , warned in a landmark new study, warned that breast cancer survivors are at significant risk of developing entirely new cancers elsewhere in the body . elsewhere in the body. >> parents, put down your phones. new data from the states

reveals that half of teenagers say that their parents are too distracted by their devices , and distracted by their devices, and we meet the lady who's been crowned britain's biggest collector, victoria mclean has more than 9000 pieces of harry potter memorabilia, worth more than a quarter of a million pounds. >> and in the sport. everton beat liverpool for the first time in 14 years at goodison park. manchester united have a scare against sheffield united and emma raducanu goes from her best performance of the year to her worst. oh, and one more thing in ski jumping news a new world record has been set. >> good morning. it's a bit of a cloudier day today and some of us will see some showers. you can find out all the details with me a little later on. >> morning to you. >> morning to you. >> i'm stephen dixon and i'm ellie costello, and this is breakfast on . gb news.

breakfast on. gb news. >> well, as lovely as it is to be with you here on a thursday morning, it was very, very special to be out and about on tuesday, covering saint george's day. >> wasn't it just yet.7 a day. >> wasn't it just yet? a day we won't forget. it was so, so special to be there. it was lovely to be together. actually, it was on a tuesday, which doesn't usually happen. >> no. and actually so many of you, if you were there on the day, thank you very much indeed. if you came over and said hello because it was an endless stream, it actually was . stream, it actually was. >> it was lovely, wasn't it? it was constant. there were people actually waiting outside the pub, to say hello to us, but really sorry for a lady. i think your name is debbie, who actually had a photo with you. and then i don't think she realised she could come in the pub to say hello to me. so she just waited outside in the cold. and then when i stepped outside about an hour later, she was like, ellie, i've been waiting out here in the cold for an houn >> oh no. >> oh no. >> yeah. and i said, it's a pub, come in. but so there you go. yeah. so, debbie, thank you for

waiting. but honestly, for us it was lovely. >> it's one of the nice things about this job and this place that although we have our detractors because people i don't know just wouldn't like to have a go at people. we get stopped by so many more people. you won't believe the difference, actually. and it's really, it's always lovely to say hello to you so if you see us out and about, come and say hello. but thank you for tuesday. it was really lovely. yeah. >> and it's so nice to see you as well, because to us we just feel like we talked to each other in an empty room. there's nobody else here, so it's nice to actually put a face to a name, isn't it? isn't it just. and to see you all. so thank you so much. it was very special, wasn't it? very gb news. >> yes, absolutely, and if you were out and about or if you just want to say hello to us this morning, or if you've got anything that you want to talk about, then you know how to do it, don't they, ellie? yes. and do you gbnews.com/yoursay. yeah, that's what i was i was looking for this morning. thank you very much. >> yeah, it's our new forum, so if you haven't got involved yet, do join. it's very easy to do

so. and then you can see everybody else's messages and you can reply to things. it's very nice. >> now to our main news this morning labour. labour have been accused of failing to keep britain safe in a ever increasingly dangerous world. >> yes, sir keir starmers party has come under fire for not backing the government's boost in defence spending. >> the prime minister promising £75 billion more in new funding that will show our enemies. we are resolute and determined. >> well, a shadow ministers declined to promise the same. johnny mercer, the veterans minister, says it showed labour could not be trusted on defence. he said labour again refused to back our plan to spend 2.5% of gdp on defence, instead , they gdp on defence, instead, they want to spend years holding a review as the world gets more dangerous while refusing to act to keep the british people safe. >> well, johnny is now is political correspondent for the spectator. james heale good to see you this morning, james. is it too much, actually, realistically, to ask the labour

party to outand out back something which they haven't costed for? >> yeah, i mean it's a very difficult thing. pledge to kind of match. if you look at for instance, just how much labour is willing to be very fiscally reticent in certain areas and reticent in certain areas and reticent about, like talking about things like health spending for instance. i think it's very difficult for the labour party, which are traditionally obviously referred money on things like welfare spending to come out and back. this kind of increase at a time when every labour shadow cabinet member is going around saying to rachel reeves can have some more money for this, more money for that, it's difficult for them to come out and match this kind of spending given as you say, 75 billion by 2030. and of course, you know, one person would have to ask how many votes are going to ask how many votes are going to be in it from kind of the labour party point of view. so i think that for them it's a bit of a being, a sort of their initial reaction has been a bit sixes and sevens perhaps, in responding to that. and that's why you've seen, say, steve reid, the shadow environment secretary, saying slightly different things to the shadow attorney general, emily thornberry, on the media round. so i think labour are yet to come up with a kind of fully

responded on this. and, and that's why johnny mercer is out there saying labour can't be trusted on defence. >> i mean, how many votes do you think could be in this though, because as johnny mercer says, as as the tory party is saying, we are in a much more dangerous world. you would think that defence is actually going very quickly up people's priority list. and what do you think the opfics list. and what do you think the optics look like when you've got people like johnny mercer saying, well, labour are going to dither around on this whilst the world gets more dangerous. >> well, that's some context to this. i mean, over the last two years ago there was basically labour was 20 points behind on the conservatives on defence and over the past two years they've got much better and now actually are ahead on this as an issue. so i think this is an attempt to kind of open up a bit of clear blue water and then trying to tie this into other things as well, saying labour can't be trusted on taxation. labour can't be trusted on security. and i think that's where they're going to be trying to do. obviously, it's very difficult for the conservatives to kind of 20 points behind the polls overall right now, but i think that this is an attempt to kind of both unite the party behind a pro spending message and also try and put the fight towards laboun try and put the fight towards labour, because labour, of course, every time they've had things like the 28 billion green new deal on this, they've they've actually really suffered

to kind of get their figures out. right. so i think that for the conservatives there is a bit of heart to be taken from this. and, you know, i think you've seen that in the response so far. people like mark francois critique of sunak coming out and supporting this. so i think the opfics supporting this. so i think the optics are about, you know, they would like to present it. as you know, the conservatives are finally taking national security seriously. >> yeah. and it's all well and good. and i know this is the most stupid point to make because everyone plays politics with everything, especially in an election year. it just never seems right to me to be playing politics with our defence. >> yes, quite. and i think we also see a general trend every election where you have a five year parliament and in year four, year five, they start spending more money, having cut it earlier in the parliament and i do think the defence has suffered over the past sort of ten, 14 years or so, which is that, you know, of course, you know, i'm surprised, you know, david cameron's a foreign secretary. well, when he was prime minister, the number of in the military, i think, had dropped by about a third or so in terms of the armed forces headcount. so i do think that there are questions to answer. i mean, you know, sunak and his government would say, look, you know, the nature of threats has changed. we've known this for the past sort of 2 or 3 years or so. ukraine has shown that. and so. ukraine has shown that. and so i think now they say better

late than ever. and the question is whether labour will match that given how so far in the past 48 hours they've been a bit all over the place. >> with this, there is some scrutiny still for the tories, though, isn't there, about how this uplift is going to be fully funded. we've talked about cuts to the civil service, haven't we? but we don't know where they're going to be. and that's still not enough, is it? >> yes. i'm old enough to remember two years ago and boris johnson made this exact same pledge in madrid at the 2022 nato summit. and back then , of nato summit. and back then, of course, there was talk that they were going to cut 91,000 civil service jobs that came to nought. so i think from looking at the kind of early costings of this proposal, they say 75,000 civil servants will be out, 70,000 civil servants. i would struggle to see where those are going to fall, particularly if you think now that health and the schools and defence are all protected, where are you going to find those kind of big budget savings? is it going to fall, for instance, on justice departments? is it going to fall on, say, transport? and so all these different areas have a special case. so i would think that a lot more detail needs to be found out about it. but for now, the initial reaction, i think the government can be happy with how that's gone down. >> yeah. in terms of labour,

though, on this, there may not be saying any confirming anything yet . i mean, they'd be anything yet. i mean, they'd be crazy not to find a way to do this ultimately, wouldn't they. >> yeah, i think so. and i think that people who are more pro of defence, being in the labour party have made the case to me that , you know, you can party have made the case to me that, you know, you can tie this into something like levelling up, for instance, you can look at barrow and furness, the jobs that you've created in kind of industrial areas. and i think in sectors. and so i think that they can tie this into the wider message that rachel reeves has been talking about in terms of security, in terms of making sure that supply chains are safe terms, that making sure that our economy is sort of waterproof against the shocks. the financial system , there is financial system, there is a potential way to do this in a certain way. so i think that they ought to be looking at this. certainly. and i'm sure that this work is going on behind the scenes right now. >> you know, anyone who mentions barrow in furness is good in my books. that's my hometown, lovely stuff , james. thanks very lovely stuff, james. thanks very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. do let us know what you make of that gbnews.com/yoursay >> yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? because, as i say, labour and we're talking to labour a little bit later on this morning, so we'll ask them about

it, but can't make a commitment yet . well, no, because it's very yet. well, no, because it's very difficult to when they say everything is fully costed, which of course has got to be. yeah, so it's probably difficult for them at the moment, but are they, they're going to have to match it. >> they're going to have to work out aren't they. >> they really are. yeah. because any, any party coming and the main, the main purpose of any government, and the main, the main purpose of any government , the main role of any government, the main role of any government, the main role of any government is defence of the realm, isn't it. defence of defence of the british people. and so there's got to be tied in. yeah. >> and i think in the world that we are currently living in, i think to a lot of people defence spending is going to be very important at the next general election. it may be one of the key factors in who they decide to vote for. so it is something that sir keir starmer will have to think about quite seriously. >> i think, yeah, i think he will now a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers, teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales. >> yes, a man valley school was put into lockdown shortly after 11 am. yesterday after three people were injured. emergency

services responded, including wales air ambulance . police say wales air ambulance. police say the injuries are not life threatening. forensic teams have been on site and a knife has been on site and a knife has been recovered and the suspect remains in custody. well, superintendent ross evans spoke to the media. >> i'm aware that there is footage circulating on social media and i would ask that this is kindly removed to preserve the integrity of the ongoing investigation and to avoid further distress to those involved. this was a very distressing incident, and our thoughts are with the victim's . thoughts are with the victim's. >> well, joining us now is former police officer oliver laurence. good to see you this morning. oliver. i mean, this is a truly shocking story, isn't it? >> it certainly is. similarly, you know, we see violence on our streets across the country . and streets across the country. and when we see it inside our schools, it's something that really hits home and is truly troubling. but i think you've got to sort of celebrate the bravery of the teachers getting involved in this matter and disarming this alleged offender , disarming this alleged offender, you know, three people with with

terrible injuries, but thankfully non—life threatening. and hopefully now the school will start to come back together, start to understand what's occurred. obviously, the police will run a very complex investigation like we would expect them to. but a highly distressing situation for the community of south wales. >> yeah, in terms of the investigation , oliver, i mean, investigation, oliver, i mean, presumably comparatively straight forward in a in a situation where there's going to be a lot of witnesses. >> yeah. you know, the police will always be mindful not to call anything simplistic. it's still quite complex in terms of gathering witness statements very, very quickly. obviously a flick knife was recovered at the scene, which is quite distressing to hear that obviously a young person is allegedly in possession of such allegedly in possession of such a weapon, but you know , the a weapon, but you know, the police will move very, very quickly. obviously there will also be support networks in place because obviously this is quite a distressing incident inside a school and also the community will be very, very worried. obviously an isolated incident, but still people need support getting through this to make sure that they recover not only physically but also emotionally . emotionally. >> oliver, how rare is this sort of incident? because we really

don't hear about this sort of thing happening very often . and thing happening very often. and how do we prevent it from happening again ? happening again? >> thankfully, we don't hear very often of incidents inside our schools. i think, tragically, we hear a lot about it out in the public. we obviously we've seen a lot of young people affected by knife crime, particularly in central london, over the last couple of years, and education is the key, really, to sort of giving kids and young people an insight as to sort of the ramifications of their actions. these lives , their actions. these lives, these actions change lives forever. and not only the victims , but the offenders, victims, but the offenders, their families. and these are young people that really don't understand the contextual piece around sort of these ramifications. the fact they have such a huge impact not only on their victims but themselves and their families. it's something that police and the communities need to work hard on. you know, police and crime commissioners are coming up for re—election next week and something they focus on as part of their sort of anti—social behaviour. models and fundings going forward. >> you don't want the problem is you look at something like this and you think, heck, i really hope we don't end up going the way of america with with airport

style security needed at schools and that sort of thing . and that sort of thing. >> yeah. it's interesting, steve, you know, we do often associate school violence with the states. you know, i think we've all become slightly, tragically , quite numb to when tragically, quite numb to when we hear of mass incidents in the us because they seem to appear and happen quite regularly. you know, we are very thankful here in the uk that it doesn't happen regularly. and i suppose that the key to that is, i suppose, you know, the education, the environment our kids are brought up in. you know, there is a it is hard to get hold of weapons in society, but thankfully we don't see too many of these. and hopefully this is an isolated incident but still has rocked a south wales community who'll be waking up this morning wondering how this all transpired. >> absolutely, truly shocking incident. oliver laurence good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed . you very much indeed. >> okay, let's have a look at some of the other stories coming into the newsroom as we approach 6:15 this morning. >> and three men have been arrested following the deaths of five migrants, including a young girl , while five migrants, including a young girl, while trying to cross five migrants, including a young girl , while trying to cross the girl, while trying to cross the channel yesterday, the national crime agency says they were

arrested on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and entering the uk illegally . and entering the uk illegally. those detained include two sudanese men aged 22 and 19, and a 22 year old. south sudan national. it comes as figures from the home office show more than 400 migrants crossed the channel yesterday . channel yesterday. >> the army says three soldiers were hospitalised when household cavalry horses bolted in central london. several military horses were spooked by construction equipment and unseated their riders before making off. at least four people were injured as the animals galloped their way through central london. they were eventually rounded up and transported away for veterinary care. >> the government is set to face a high court challenge against its xl bully ban. a campaign group has been given permission to bring legal action against the department for environment and rural affairs, the large bulldog type american breed was

added to the banned list in october last year, following a series of attacks. campaigners argue that the ban is unlawful and irrational. however, government lawyers say the challenge should be dismissed . challenge should be dismissed. >> that horse issue yesterday. >> that horse issue yesterday. >> do you know what i think it it looks more shocking than it is partly because of the blood on the on the white horse. horses really bleed and it's the very slow to stop. >> yes , so it looks and horses >> yes, so it looks and horses being spooked and unseating their riders in household cavalry when they're on, you know, sort of just like a sort of water exercise sort of thing is not unusual, is it not? no. >> apparently those pictures are on every single front page. >> it's the fact that normally they just sort of round, you know, they're quite easy to round up. but in this occasion they've just gone for it. >> well they went for two hours

didn't they. so it's buckingham palace road over in west london. we can see the pictures now on the screen is like you say, it's that white horse with the blood all over it, which was kind of apocalyptic, wasn't it? yeah. it is so shocking seeing the two of them run, but they ran all the way from buckingham palace road in west london to limehouse in east london. they're running for two hours, i suppose once the horse is spooked , it's so horse is spooked, it's so difficult to get them back under control, isn't it? yeah. >> poor thing . >> poor thing. >> poor thing. >> i mean, there must have been terrified. beautiful horses. >> absolutely stunning. >> absolutely stunning. >> and the. the people . we are >> and the. the people. we are a nafion >> and the. the people. we are a nation of animal lovers, aren't we? i mean, i don't know if you saw the videos that black horse, which i think perhaps ran into a bus or something like that, and there's a crowd of people just stroking the horse and trying to calm it down, so there are some there was some lovely footage yesterday of the public getting involved, but it must be so scary seeing those coming towards you . towards you. >> yeah, especially if you're not a horse person and don't know what to do. but anyway, thank heavens they're all okay. >> everything's under control being treated, and the horses

will be all right. >> yeah. so there you go. and now this is a worrying story. breast cancer survivors are apparently at significant risk of developing entirely new cancers elsewhere in the body. according to the latest research. >> yes. experts at the university of cambridge found that women who survived breast cancer have doubled the risk of cancer have doubled the risk of cancer in their other breast and are at 87% increased risk of endometrial cancer. well the study also found that women diagnosed with breast cancer under the age of 50 were 86% more likely to develop a second new cancer , compared to the new cancer, compared to the general population of the same age . well, joining us now is age. well, joining us now is consultant medical oncologist at imperial college healthcare nhs trust. doctor david pinto. good to see you this morning, doctor. this is very worrying news isn't it ? it? >> it is. this is one in— >> it is. this is one of it? >> it is. this is one of the most comprehensive studies that

has been published to date, which draws on, epidemiological data. so data from people that have experienced a previous diagnosis of breast cancer and it took, you know, over 20 years to complete in the sense that, you know, these that had to be this patients had to be followed up for a number of years after their first diagnosis of breast cancer. their first diagnosis of breast cancer . it does their first diagnosis of breast cancer. it does highlight one of the key challenges that we have in cancer medicine, which is how can we say to someone that has been diagnosed with a cancer that's been caught early , you're that's been caught early, you're going to be all right, you're going to be all right, you're going to be cancer for free the rest of your life. and you know, as you said before , as you said before, unfortunately, a proportion of people, will not be cancer free. and a lot of the efforts so far have been tailored to understand how, what is the risk of the original cancer coming back , but original cancer coming back, but this particular study highlights that the risk of patients is also extending to cancers that are not linked to the original

diagnosis, but that might be related to the fact that maybe the risk factors for cancer have have insisted on healthy tissues elsewhere in the body. they are not primarily linked to the breast tissue . all right. and breast tissue. all right. and there are a number of explanations for that . explanations for that. >> well, i'm going to say i mean, this sounds like very grim news. and yet there are there are some benefits, aren't there, if you can say about a population of society , you are population of society, you are you are considerably more likely to develop cancer at some point in the future. does that give us some some way of trying to prevent it, of trying to subdue that, that developing in the future ? future? >> absolutely. so the study has looked at what are the risks for, patients developing new cancers and some of those risks. are inherently linked to our own genetic predisposition . so some genetic predisposition. so some of those patients unfortunately harboured some genetic mutations

in their own dna, which led them to become , an increased risk of to become, an increased risk of developing cancers elsewhere in the body. so for some of these patients, for instance, it might now be, a good strategy to think about screening for other cancers once their original breast cancer treatment has been completed . for others, important completed. for others, important factors such as the socioeconomic status. so things like the risk related to smoking , to poor physical exercise, to poor eating habits, those risks which we can modify in our day to day basis might be, again, another important strategy to prevent the increased risk of new cancers developing . new cancers developing. >> i mean, that in itself is so concerning, isn't it? it highlights the inequalities around cancer. >> yes, absolutely . so we've >> yes, absolutely. so we've known this for ages. the fact that health care inequalities and socioeconomic inequalities are strongly linked to the outcome, of cancer patients.

what this study adds is actually a percentage. so if you think about the percentage of increased risk in cancer patients on the basis of the socioeconomic status, this increases by 35. so knowing that number, knowing how big the increased risk of other cancer is on the basis of purely your socio economic status is very important because it does help us address some of the issues around health care inequalities that we really need to tackle. so that everyone can hope for a cancer free future in their lifetime . lifetime. >> and what about looking at these? i don't know, i don't know if they're classed as alternative therapies, but there are things that i have a friend who's had breast cancer twice and stage four second time round, but he's now cancer free, but she's going through she, she goes to an oxygen chamber, you know, once a month. she has. i think it's mistletoe infusions or something. but all these things which which sound a bit

new age y. but i think they are sort of medically sort of looked at. but but are these things that we need to actually invest a bit more time in for those people at risk ? people at risk? >> look, there are a number of different strategies to try and tackle cancer risk. some of them are evidence based, including, you know, managing our diet better, managing our exercise better, managing our exercise better, keeping , you know, a better, keeping, you know, a healthy body, essentially, but , healthy body, essentially, but, in a way, on some of these strategies , we can't really make strategies, we can't really make a recommendation because studies were never conducted . and there were never conducted. and there are a lot of confounding factors. if you think about, you know, alternative therapies in terms of managing the risk of cancer , one of the things that cancer, one of the things that this study really puts emphasis on is , is the fact that we have on is, is the fact that we have done well in terms of managing cancer in general, the fact that we are now facing the risk of secondary cancer is because, you know, about 87% of patients with breast cancer are cancer free five years after the diagnosis. this is spectacular. and it goes

to show that over the past few decades, the way we treat breast cancer has increased and has improved dramatically . and so we improved dramatically. and so we now need to think about what are the challenges for the future in this patients, which includes the risk of new cancers developing . developing. >> okay. doctor david nato, good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed. >> it's one of those things. see, i'm not really in favour, generally speaking, alternative therapies always. i like the science. do you do i mean, yeah , science. do you do i mean, yeah, but i just think if you've if you're faced with i mean the idea with my friend is like if, if it's sort of aware that if the cancer comes back, she's probably had it now because , you probably had it now because, you know, because she's been through it twice and all the rest of it, so you sort of try anything, don't. >> of course you would. and i suppose if you are suffering, you would try anything, wouldn't you, but it seems to be working and great that she's doing so well. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that's wonderful news, i don't know this, but it's this is worrying, isn't it? if you sort of think, well, if you get something, are you going to be doomed anyway? >> it's very worrying. and i

think the socioeconomic factors are really interesting as well, which is part of it. so you're more likely to develop a second cancerif more likely to develop a second cancer if you live in poverty or if you're obese , which is, if you're obese, which is, shouldn't depend on where you live or what you're born into, should it? >> no, it shouldn't, but perhaps it's a message that we need to do more to look after ourselves. you know, there's all this thing about fat shaming and all the rest of it. and no, you don't want to do any of that. of course you don't. but then perhaps we need to do what? take what action we can to make ourselves as healthy as possible. easier said than done. i know, i know, but perhaps that pressure needs to be put on us a little bit more. >> yeah, well, let us know what you think about that. gbnews.com/yoursay. should we take a look at the weather? because it was freezing this morning. >> it was a little bit chilly. yeah. >> annie shuttleworth has all the details for you . the details for you. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather update . latest gb news weather update. it will be a cloudier day today

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>> yeah , they are beautiful horses. >> absolutely beautiful. first thing. i was struck by that. and the blood. yeah anyway, do stay with us still to come. paul coyte will be here with all of your sports news. that's

next. >> okay, let's look at the sport this morning. >> okay, let's look at the sport this morning . paul coyte is this morning. paul coyte is here. what are you laughing at? i'm laughing at you. >> laughing at elianne. >> laughing at elianne. >> i tried to take control of the autocue. it didn't go very well. >> no, she's just messing with all the technological stuff. oh, really? >> okay, fine. 14 years, 14 years since the last time that everton managed to beat liverpool at goodison park. has it been that long? it was. it was roy halling then. no, i don't think. i don't think in 14 years he wouldn't have been playing. roy hodgson was the manager of liverpool then and then david moyes was the manager

of everton 14 years and liverpool looking a little wobbly to be honest with you, with this title race. so it's not looking very good, jurgen klopp said that he wouldn't miss the derby. this is the game that he would most like to miss and never like, and this is probably the worst one that he's had. so that was the last one for him, when it comes to derbies up in liverpool and everton win two nil, which is a bit of a turn up. but liverpool looking very wobbly so i don't think they it's pretty much waving goodbye to the premier league title. >> oh dear, yes. man united though i've had a bit of a fight back. >> yeah, i at first it looked like they were going to be in trouble because they were one nil down against sheffield united and then they came back and then sheffield united scored again. but eventually i think the quality showed through and manchester united came through and they won four two. and fernandes scored a great goal and made one penalty as well. so good result for manchester united. so you know erik ten hag

though i still think is going to be in trouble. i'll still be amazed if he's around at the end of the season. >> all right. oh now actually i should have linked this. they're talking of liverpool. yes i mean they have got a slot to fill potentially . well they have got potentially. well they have got a slot to fill haven't they. and there's been chatting to feyernood. yes. >> are you referring to ernest lot? i am, yes arnie. there he is. there's arnie slot. we're talking about him yesterday, the last couple of days. these are. this is the guy who we believe will be taking over at liverpool i >>i >> i mean, the headlines write themselves, aren't they. >> well, from klopp to slot. >> well, from klopp to slot. >> oh yes. >> oh yes. >> klopp to slot. yes. >> klopp to slot. yes. >> but slot is at feyenoord as you mentioned he's had success there . not major major success. there. not major major success. i mean they won the eredivisie . i mean they won the eredivisie. oh yeah. which is the which is the dutch league. so he won that and he won the dutch cup as well. just last week. so always football is always looking out for the next new big thing. so it seems like possibly it's him because everybody wants their club to play attacking, exciting football and he seems to be the

suv- football and he seems to be the guy. but whether it's going to work for liverpool, we don't know. no. but apparently now we hear that liverpool are speaking to feyenoord. so obviously there's going to be some sort of deal work between them because where else are they going to go? yeah, it's a bad match. >> you just absolutely need to put another £0.50 in the slot. that's i'm going to have a whole list of slots. >> well you'll probably have them. yeah. well the thing is them. yeah. well the thing is the guy though is brilliant. i mean he's done so well. i mean he's a machine. mean he's done so well. i mean he's a machine . well he's a slot he's a machine. well he's a slot machine. in fact he's what he was. so there you go . was. so there you go. >> he was. oh, dear. yeah. something coming okay. >> fair enough, should we talk about emma raducanu? yes lesser. >> up and down. it's like this, isn't it? with ever.it and she's exhausted. well, i just she's bless her. she's had a couple of good wins, so she's gone from stuttgart to watch, from stuttgart to watch, from stuttgart to watch, from stuttgart to stuttering , i think stuttgart to stuttering, i think is what she's done. she did it very well. she got to the quarterfinals of the porsche open in stuttgart and now has moved to madrid. she got a wild card, which means she wouldn't have qualified, but because of who she is, they thought, okay, we'll let her in. there's,

there's emma. we'll let her in. there's, there's emma . she made so many. there's emma. she made so many. i mean, that's her celebrating a point one. but there wasn't many of them. she lost six two, six two to the argentinian maria lourdes cali, who is number 82 in the world. so if you've never heard of her, that's not really a surprise. 34 unforced errors that was made by emma raducanu. so it was not a good day at the office. people said she looked tired. she looked disinterested . tired. she looked disinterested. did she didn't look up for it. so not a good performance by emma raducanu. you never know where you stand with emma, i said . said. >> oh well, i don't know what to think. >> i think she's got a lot in the tank still. >> do you think that's what she's doing? >> she's just saving the tank. yeah she's still very young. >> she is. >> she is. >> she's still only 21. we mustn't forget this. she's been around forever. yeah. she won the us open. it seemed like 20 years ago. and she's only 21 years ago. and she's only 21 years old now. >> i know now i'm always intrigued when someone in the sport is, you know, what i have is my screensaver is my sporting hero. >> kobayashi . >> kobayashi. >> kobayashi. >> ryoyu kobayashi, what a star.

>> ryoyu kobayashi, what a star. >> now he, as you know, is a ski jumper. is that there? he is, there he is there. i can see that now. i love i've always loved ski jumping. it's always been my ambition to go and watch ski jumping, which i've never actually done, be amazing . but actually done, be amazing. but the world record ski jump was made by ryoyu kobayashi . have made by ryoyu kobayashi. have a look at this new world record distance 291m in in the air 318 yards. that is on old money. there he is. oh look this is a long jump. there we go. he's flying. there eight seconds in the air. >> oh my goodness. hang on in the business. >> look at that. unbelievable. this was made i mean he's flying. he is. it's the closest you could possibly get to flying . surely eight seconds in the air and it was set in akureyri in iceland . in iceland. >> and the smoothest landing eight seconds flying. oh my goodness , it doesn't even have goodness, it doesn't even have any poles. he just did that so smoothly. >> you can't have you can't have

poles, darling. you can't have poles, darling. you can't have poles that would help you to land. poles that would help you to land . do you think that would land. do you think that would help you to land? >> it's all in the knees. >> it's all in the knees. >> so maybe the answer is as you land, throw him a couple of poles and there we are. >> and then that might help you. >> and then that might help you. >> well, i'm very impressed. >> well, i'm very impressed. >> but also they have much wider skis, much big, thick, really long, really wide skis . i don't long, really wide skis. i don't know whether it helps or anything, but. >> oh, you think so? but the thing is, with eddie edwards, you know, people used to knock eddie edwards and eddie the eagle back, back in. when was it? 84? and to do something like that. and i've always said for anybody to have kahunas, you certainly do need to have kahunas of steel to fly off there. but that's a new world record. so it's beaten it by 37m. so 291 metre ski jump, the new world record that was broken. >> well, i say it's why kobayashi is my hero. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> that's why he will stay on your screensaver . they will your screensaver. they will longer and longer. >> he certainly will. paul, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you. now. oh god. sutum. >> yeah. we're going to be going through the front pages and lots of the in—between pages as well,

with charlie rowley and nichi hodgson

next. >> let's have a look at some of the front pages of the newspapers this morning at 642. >> yes. >> yes. >> the telegraph leads with labour failing to match the prime minister's defence budget . prime minister's defence budget. >> the guardian has labour's promise to nationalise the rail network within five years. >> the times says that england is the worst in the world for underage drinking and the mail has a year nine pupil. >> being arrested for allegedly stabbing her teacher with a flick knife. >> well, joining us now to go through the newspapers this morning as former adviser to michael gove , charlie rowley and michael gove, charlie rowley and author and commentator nichi hodgson , good to see you this hodgson, good to see you this morning, both of you. and charlie. shall we start with the telegraph front page this morning? this is sir keir

starmer and the labour party refusing to match the pm's defence budget so far. >> yes. >> yes. >> and it's on the back of the very welcome announcement. i think that the government is increasing its defence spending by 75 million. in the short term and increasing it all the way up to 2030. now, i think they always say that there are no votes in defence, but i think in an ever increasingly uncertain world where you've got the threats , where you've got the threats, where you've got the threats, where you've got the threats of iran more recently, where you're seeing the conflict in the middle east, where you're seeing obviously the conflict ongoing in ukraine, the threats from china, i think , you know, from china, i think, you know, the uk and the public are more aware than they were, or they might have been previously. when it comes to defence spending and our national security, which is why the prime minister's taken it , so seriously to make that it, so seriously to make that announcement, and which is why it's been very much welcomed. but the dividing line here is obviously that labour refusing to match that commitment, it makes for some very clear water between the labour party and the conservative party when it comes to the local and general

election. what's wrong nicky? >> it's difficult for keir starmer, isn't it, >> it's difficult for keir starmer, isn't it , because >> it's difficult for keir starmer, isn't it, because he's spent so much time in the past few months not promising money because there isn't any or he doesn't know what money there is available, and pulling things like the green pledge , so he's like the green pledge, so he's kind of in a difficult position. if he says, oh, i actually have found some money, even if it's for defence spending, i actually think people will be quite sympathetic to it, as charlie says. but also he's he's still got a lot of very left wing supporters in labour who are often pacifists and don't appreciate money being spent on war. so i don't know if he's trying to appeal to them or he's just trying to be prudent by not getting himself in too deep already with the finances, okay. >> look , youtube, we're going to >> look, youtube, we're going to come back to you, actually, because we're talking about, defence spending. let's talk to the minister of state for defence procurement, james cartlidge, who joins us now. to good see you this morning. i mean, in terms of all this defence spending, you've been busy spending plenty of money already , on the challenger already, on the challenger three. have to say it's great that this seems to be moving

forward. the live firing seems to be going well, so it's time to be going well, so it's time to roll out. but there have been so many issues with the number of tanks that we have had over the last few years. this is a much needed move . much needed move. >> yeah. i mean, look, the challenger three is a highly capable tank. it will be the most lethal and survivable tank we've ever had as a country. i was privileged to attend the live firing in germany yesterday on the nato qualified ranges , i on the nato qualified ranges, i think it's a really positive signal to the army that we are backing them by investing in the most capable equipment that we have. and as you say, it comes at a time when we've announced we are going to 2.5% spending on defence is a really strong signal. it shows that this government is backing our armed forces to deliver a safer world. >> there is i mean, there's much applause for more spending in defence. many would agree that it's certainly needed. we're living in a much more dangerous world, but there is a lot of scrutiny as well for the conservatives about how this

uplift is going to be fully funded. i know we understand that there are going to be cuts to the civil service, but that's only going to partly pay for this, isn't it? where is the rest of the money coming from ? rest of the money coming from? >> well, it's quite right that, we do this in a prudent fashion. if you recall, our original pledge was to go to 2.5% when the economic circumstances allowed . so, yes, it is true, as allowed. so, yes, it is true, as you say, we will be reducing civil service numbers back to where they were before the pandemic. we think that's the right thing to do. but crucially, and i must stress this, we said we'd go to 2.5% when the economy allowed the crucial factor here is that inflation has fallen sharply under our watch , from just under under our watch, from just under 11% to just over 3. that's a very significant fall. and that means now, whereas when inflation was high, we had to do difficult things like not cutting taxes, not increasing spending. it's been not only it's meant not only we can start bringing tax cuts forward , but bringing tax cuts forward, but we can commit to this hugely significant 2.5, putting an extra £75 billion into the uk armed forces, as you say this

time, when it must be self—evident to everybody that the world is a less safe place, how do we know how to best spend this money, though, in the sense, i mean, certainly in terms of procurement, you have to go through all these very complex processes. >> and there's more. there's i mean, 75 billion over five years is a is an awful lot of money. and yet there'll be more requests for that cash than actually money there is to spend i >> -- >> well, m >> well, that's an excellent question because absolutely it's not just putting more money into our armed forces. i as the defence procurement minister, have a duty to ensure that that money is spent prudently and effectively and the first thing i would say is, you know, there's been huge support for our, the way that the uk has stood by ukraine, providing huge numbers of munitions, storm shadow tanks and so on, but i think the public want to know that in doing that, we are replenishing our own stocks of munitions. that's why a top priority of this extra spending is £10 billion more for

munitions. this will enable to us increase our stockpiles, but also to invest in the uk defence industry, which supports jobs and prosperity around the country. >> i wanted to ask you about con coughlin's, comment today in the telegraph. he talks about the uplift to defence. he obviously applauds it, but he does say that there are troubling consequences . there isn't enough consequences. there isn't enough manpower in all three services. he details cuts to royal navy staffing. it means it's unable to crew both of its new queen elizabeth class aircraft carriers, whilst cuts the royal air force, suffering from a shortage of trained pilots . i shortage of trained pilots. i mean, that's a great concern, isn't it? i mean, we could be on a war footing in terms of funding, but we don't actually have the ability to conduct proper war fighting, do we? >> well, well, i'm pleased to say , in january we actually had say, in january we actually had the largest number of applications to join the army for six years. so actually we do have a huge amount of interest because of the mission and what's happening in the world. lots more people wanting to join

the armed forces. but look, we've been very open. the secretary of state has said in the house of commons, when you have very low unemployment like we do, there are pressures on the labour market. there are issues around retention. we've been very clear about that. so first of all, we've brought out what's called the haythornthwaite review , which is haythornthwaite review, which is to look at how we can make careers in the armed forces suit. shall we say, modern expectations around , how the expectations around, how the workplace is and the sort of, shall we say , you know, whether shall we say, you know, whether that's a lifestyle choices, etc, working with people as they would expect to have employment in the modern day. we want to do more of that. but secondly, and i think really importantly, if the people out there thinking of joining the armed forces or those who already serve, they want to see a government that's got their back. and the way you do that is by backing your armed forces with more spending . and forces with more spending. and as you said, with effective procurement. and i've had the pleasure to set out a radical new reform of our procurement system. it's called the integrated procurement model. it will get rid of a lot of the bureaucracy, and i do believe will lead to better procurement.

but of course, to do that you also need the funding. so we've got the 2.5. so i think it's a really big positive week for the british armed forces. and i think that is the single most important thing. sending that positive message to those who serve on the front line. >> okay, minister. good to talk to you. you'll be pleased to know that one of our gb news members has got in touch, who goes by the name ex tank commander. so he presumably knows what he's on about. and he says what a beautiful tank. love it. so there you go. >> well, the live firing was very successful. i'm pleased to say it is an excellent tank and we look forward to it serving for many years on the front line with the british army. >> okay, minister, thanks very much indeed, i mean, they're incredible things , incredible things. >> you like all of that stuff do? >> well, yeah. husband was a tank driver. >> oh, was he . >> oh, was he. >> oh, was he. >> how did i not know that? >> how did i not know that? >> i don't know, that's a cool job, household cavalry. >> you spent half your time with the horses, then you move over to armoured. >> i knew the bit about the horses. yeah. didn't know about the tank? yeah now that is fun.

>> there you go. so i'll be getting lots of when i get home. >> well, you're very much in the know. and he liked your questions as well. did our minister. >> yeah. there you go. very impressed with you this morning, what are we going to do? oh, let's talk, let's talk. let's talk to mr nichi hodgson and charlie rowley, nicky, can we look at underage drinking at times? >> yes. >> yes. >> gosh, this is quite shocking , >> gosh, this is quite shocking, actually, when it's put down in cold, hard print. so a third of 11 year olds have had alcohol and, half of 13 year olds. are we worried about in this country? we are, because it's the highest rate of childhood drinking in 44 countries, not depend on how much they're drinking . yes, it does, but the drinking. yes, it does, but the argument is these are middle class, children from wealthy families that are watching their parents drink at home. it's become normalised because we have this myth that everybody in europe drinks with their children, have you ever heard that? do you think it's a myth? have you never heard that, though, saying, oh, well, french children or whatever they've had, they've already had wine with a meal by the age of ten. yeah. and then therefore that justifies us doing it. but i

guess the problem is that we have a serious issue with binge drinking in this country, and there are obviously huge ramifications for people over drinking. so if you start so young, is it just normalising it i guess? >> yeah, i think in a in a way it helps . i >> yeah, i think in a in a way it helps. i mean, the rule in our house was my mum used to say exactly that. nicky. yeah. >> my france and spain, they all dnnk >> my france and spain, they all drink with their dinner. >> and so from the age of 14, i was allowed a glass of wine with my dinner. but i just wasn't very interested. yeah. and having wine. yeah. well, you know , i am now. know, i am now. >> well, i was gonna say, but i wasn't at 14 really. >> but it was nice to, for that to be open to me. >> it never felt like i agree, i agree, and i had exactly the same thing in my home. but it's interesting because my husband doesn't drink and i do, and he doesn't drink and i do, and he doesn't want my daughter to drink. so we're going to get we're going to hit this. she's a baby now, but we're going to hit this point where you're going to have to talk about that one or hide it, i don't know. >> yeah, i do think i don't think you can start early enough i >> -- >> well there you go. >> well there you go. >> there's charlie. >> there's charlie. >> there's charlie. >> there you go. well i mean, i always got a bottle of me and my brother got bottles of woodpecker cider. >> oh, is it from grandma for

christmas ? christmas? >> we can drink it on christmas eve. i mean, i don't know, i'll be six. seven. what? really? yeah, but it was just. you just had a little. i mean, you didn't get drunk. you just had, like, a glass of cider, a little cider. >> what about you, charlie? when did you first have a drink? >> i think i first had a drink. a yesterday. no, i think i used to, because i used to go to football with my dad quite a bit. so obviously you go to the pub beforehand, but when i was a bit younger, you might have had a shandy, a lager shandy, just to sort of, because it's part of the culture and it's part of just, you know, rather than getting to 18 if you're going to go on to university, for example, and then waiting until that time where you leave home and leave your parents and then you all of a sudden have all these new things socialise your social activities around you instead of just hitting it then, which i think can be a bit difficult. >> it's something that happens in america, isn't it? with the age of 21, they all go to college and get absolutely slaughtered. i mean, the report does say though, that our rate of underage drinking is twice as high as that of france, which is

interesting to me because i wouldn't have thought that . wouldn't have thought that. >> no, i wouldn't have thought that either. maybe we're worse binge drinkers. >> we're definitely worse binge drinkers at every age in this country. >> yeah , it's one of those >> yeah, it's one of those things. >> it's the whole lies, damned lies and statistics thing, isn't it? it sounds terrible, but i wonder if it's actually that bad i >> -- >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, binge binge drinking is what exactly binge drinking is what exactly binge drinking is a thing we've got to care about. yeah, the odd glass of wine. >> i mean, the other difficult thing is, i think, is that it's a more prevalent with young girls. >> so girls are drinking more, vaping more, and that's a sign, perhaps on the back of the pandemic that it's just had more of an impact on, you know, and women are the worst binge drinkers in europe , in this country. >> really? yeah. we were talking about that a few weeks ago . so about that a few weeks ago. so it's pretty damning. >> well, why women why are women and girls in a woman ? and girls in a woman? >> oh, is that what it is ? >> oh, is that what it is? >> oh, is that what it is? >> we need our wine. >> we need our wine. >> with all the travails of the world, you get too used to having a glass of wine. i think it is. i think if you're a parent as well, drinking at home can become a problem for people

because you can't go out, you can't socialise. it's very easy to get a bottle of wine and then it's gone. >> yeah. oh dear, not that bad . >> yeah. oh dear, not that bad. >> yeah. oh dear, not that bad. >> but plonk at home, you know, you kind of, rather than go out andifs you kind of, rather than go out and it's quite expensive isn't it. you know, nowadays you can cost about maybe six, £7 for just a pint in a pub, you can get that, about seven, £8 bottle of wine, which can be quite nice at times. i don't drink at home, so i don't know. >> oh do you, not that you're all that's. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i don't drink at home. >> i don't drink at home. >> i don't really drink at home, do you? i don't drink at home. i dnnk do you? i don't drink at home. i drink at the weekend, but i don't. i don't drink during the week. i'm trying not to get into that habit. >> yeah, it's not a good habit. >> yeah, it's not a good habit. >> for some days i could definitely. >> it's very it's very it's very easy to fall into i think. yeah. but who knew that this morning we'd be the paragons of virtue? just by the fact we are male? >> yeah. don't look at me and charlie. definitely not. >> first time for everything. >> first time for everything. >> yeah. oh, jules . >> yeah. oh, jules. >> yeah. oh, jules. >> andover says my mum used to give my sister and i would pack a cider when we were 8 or 10. she didn't realise it contained alcohol. >> well, good on her on that day. >> thanks both. we'll see you

later on. >> thank you very much, both of you. and we'll get the weather now with annie . now with annie. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather update . latest gb news weather update. it'll be a cloudier day today for most of us with a risk of showers that could fall as snow over the high ground, as it's another fairly cold day, snow risk will definitely be just restricted to parts of scotland, perhaps the pennines on the very highest ground . but for many of highest ground. but for many of us there's a greater risk of showers, particularly as we head through the afternoon. across eastern areas, they could turn heavy for a time as well, and there's going to be a good deal more cloud around throughout this afternoon. still some sunny spells here and there, but sunshine is definitely going to be a lot more limited than it has been earlier on this week, so temperatures aren't going to quite climb as high, just highs of around 14 degrees in the very best of the sunshine. but for many of us below average for the time of year now, that rain

should start to clear away. the cloud should clear as well throughout this evening. so another clear and dry night for most of us that will allow temperatures to fall away. so it'll likely be another cold start to friday. you can see a patchy frost developing for many inland areas by tomorrow morning, but there could also be some mist and fog around very first thing, but it will be a bright start to the day so any frost should melt away very quickly and there will be a good deal amount of sunshine, particularly through the morning. as you head towards the afternoon, skies will get a little bit cloudier with that cloud bubbling up and a few showers breaking out here and there, but the showers are going to be far fewer than on thursday. they won't be quite as heavy as well in the south, though , skies will turn cloudier though, skies will turn cloudier by the end of the day with a risk of some showery, potentially heavy outbreaks of rain . rain. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good morning to you. it's 7:00 on thursday. the 25th of april. this morning. labour have been accused of failing to keep britain safe in a dangerous world by refusing to say if they'll match the government's pledge on defence spending. so, as rishi sunak torpedoed keir starmer on the defence spending plans. >> a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales. >> have you ever wondered what the cheapest and best way is to shop? well, we might have an answer for you this morning. >> parents, put your down. your phones. new data from the states reveals that half of teenagers say that their parents are too distracted by their devices. >> and we're going to meet the lady who's been crowned britain's biggest collector. because she's got harry potter memorabilia worth more than

£250,000. >> it's my surprise face. wow. and in the sport. everton beat liverpool for the first time in 14 years at goodison park as manchester united have a scare against sheffield united, but still win four two and emma raducanu goes from her best performance of the year to her worst . worst. >> good morning. it's a bit of a cloudier day today and some of us will see some showers. you can find out all the details with me a little later on. >> morning to you. i'm stephen dixon and i'm ellie costello, and this is breakfast on . and this is breakfast on. gb news. loads of you are getting in touch on underage drinking. >> we know you get get you going on this one. >> yeah. gerry moynihan . 15 says >> yeah. gerry moynihan. 15 says my nanny de used to put a drop of brandy in her milk. thankfully, we cousins do not seem to have any side effects.

hiccup >> paul in leeds says it's not about getting hammered. it's all about getting hammered. it's all about moderation . i used to have about moderation. i used to have about moderation. i used to have a small snowball at christmas when i was about eight. it didn't do me any harm . eight didn't do me any harm. eight used to like a snowball. >> now what's a snowball ? i've >> now what's a snowball? i've heard my mum talk about snowball. >> it's advocate. yeah, and lemonade . lemonade. >> and that sounds quite nice. >> and that sounds quite nice. >> yeah. grandma used to like a snowball. oh, snowball or a cherry , rich greene says i used cherry, rich greene says i used to have a baby sham aged five. oh my goodness. and i always had a glass of wine at sunday dinner, aged ten onwards. two didn't make me an alcoholic. >> yeah, baby. sham brandy and baby sham was the thing . not baby sham was the thing. not when you're five, but that was five. is pretty young. my mother used to talk about brandy and baby showers when she was a young woman. oh, yeah. it was . young woman. oh, yeah. it was. it was the in drink. oh. was it? could you buy baby sham now i don't know. >> no i hadn't, i hadn't heard of it . no. the >> no i hadn't, i hadn't heard of it. no. the in drink now would be gin .

would be gin. >> gin. yeah. >> gin. yeah. >> gin. yeah. >> gin flavoured gins and things. oh really. yeah. i'd say as the in drink. what about for boys. >> what do boys drink i don't drink, i haven't had a drink for 20 years so i don't know scotch was it. oh i love scotch. >> oh that's a cool. of course you drank scotch. so cool. >> cool , cool. >> cool, cool. >>— >> cool, cool. >> do you drink it on the rocks? >> do you drink it on the rocks? >> yeah. all neat . >> yeah. all neat. >> yeah. all neat. >> yeah. all neat. >> yeah. oh, okay. >> yeah. oh, okay. >> oh, i love the scotch . >> oh, i love the scotch. >>— >> oh, i love the scotch. >> oh, i love the scotch. >> oh, no. i'm going to get get you the taste back now. >> laphroaig was my favourite, wasn't it? yeah. >> lovely . yeah, it's very cool. >> lovely. yeah, it's very cool. >>— >> lovely. yeah, it's very cool. >> anyway, i can't drink it now. so there you go. it's all gone. it's all memories. sweet memories. >> sweet , sweet memories. >> sweet, sweet memories. >> sweet, sweet memories. >> i'm not going back to it. >> i'm not going back to it. >> but let us know what you think about that. england. apparently the worst in the world for underage drinking. worse than france. who knew? let us know what you think. gbnews.com/yoursay >> now, our main news this morning and labour have been accused of failing to keep britain safe in a dangerous world. >> yes, sir keir st thomas party has come under fire for not backing the government's boost in defence spending.

>> prime minister, as you will know by now, is promising 75 billion in new funding over five years and that will show our enemies that we are resolute and determined. >> well, as shadow ministers declined to promise the same. so far, johnny mercer, the veterans minister, says it showed labour could not be trusted on defence, saying labour again refused to back our plan to spend 2.5% of gdp on defence, instead said they want to spend years holding a review as the world gets more dangerous, while refusing to act to keep the british people safe. >> let's talk to political correspondent for the spectator james heale, who is here. good morning. morning johnny mercer. have a point, i think he will certainly be out making that point. but i think that, you know, when it comes to labour versus the conservatives, frankly, both sides have, you know, not been spending enough for the past 30 years. post—cold war, we've had the peace dividend and right now i think we've seen governments all across the world be slow to act, in response to what's been happening in russia over the past ten years and also the

increasing threat of china. so this is why we've had things like the international focus on increasing nato spending and donald trump making a lot of noise ahead of a potential return to the white house later this year. >> we can imagine this is going to be a very popular policy for the tories here. labour will want to do the same, won't they? considering the world that we're living in right now, well , absolutely. >> and of course, you know, security doesn't just, you know, confine to defence. it bleeds into other areas. and so labour have been out saying we're trusted on defence, we're trusted on defence, we're trusted on defence, we're trusted on the economy. we're trusted on the economy. we're trusted with your pension. all different areas . and they've put different areas. and they've put real strides into making this a key area. the past two years or so. and of course, they very quick to say , for instance, as quick to say, for instance, as angela rayner was yesterday at the despatch box, you know, you've cut the size of the defence to the smallest since the napoleonic war , you know, the napoleonic war, you know, the napoleonic war, you know, the army is now down to 72,000 in terms of head count. so they're very quick to criticise. but of course, you know, are they going to back the measures to kind of go along with this. and as you saw from that interview earlier with james cartlidge, they're very keen to talk about how the reaction has been from very positive for defence. and everyone wants to see more kind of, you know, a bigger army, etc. and so how are we actually going to go and deliver that without promising

some difficult financial decisions as well? >> that's the thing. i mean, what labour have have made a point . point. of saying, as you would in the run up to an election is everything is costed. and i mean most of it seems to be costed from the non—dom plan that seems to be paying for everything at the minute. so i guess they can't make a commitment on on this until they've worked out how to cost it. >> yeah, well this is we're going to see a lot of during this election campaign. we've seen it before, which is they can't say anything until we've seen the books and they're going to get into government. and i think presumably they'll find it's worse. and then, of course, i think, you know, sir keir starmer strategy has always been to paint this as a ten year project, a two tum project. and so therefore it was so they'll therefore say it was so they'll therefore say it was so the so bad, much like the conservatives did in 2010. they therefore five therefore need another five years. think that we're years. so i think that we're going to see this in defence and other issues as well, which that labour refused to be drawn into the details. this dance the details. we have this dance in media every they do in the media every time they do a sort seven a media round with sort of seven minute saying, minute interview saying, what are tell and are you going to tell us? and they refuse to give much detail, i mean, you could also say the same with the tories, though, in terms of the detail, because we understand in part understand that this is in part going cuts to going to be costed by cuts to the service. but we don't

the civil service. but we don't know. i think it's fair to know. and i think it's fair to say we didn't actually get a clear answer our round clear answer in our round earlier where those cuts are going to be in the civil service and also what else, because that's not fully costed, is it? yeah, absolutely. >> i suspect there will be some whitehall creative accounting involved in all of that. you know, to take one for example, for instance, when we now talk about, you know, foreign aid spending slightly different, but you know, that is now being spent a huge amount of that on, you know, asylum seekers here in the i'm sure that there the uk. so i'm sure that there will be some it'll be worth looking at the fine detail of this in terms of rearranging whitehall budgets in order to pay whitehall budgets in order to pay for 75 billion is a huge amount of money, and if whitehall efficiencies , which we whitehall efficiencies, which we hear a lot about since 2016, it seems that the uk state has been addicted to spending more and more. so i'm very sceptical that you're going to get the spending cuts needed to try and cost this thing out when, i mean, you know this better than the rest of us when it when it comes to costing things like this over a long period, how much is based on forecast. >> because presumably we are forecast for the economy to grow a certain amount over the next few years. things seem to be getting a little bit better at the moment. so how much is based

on that? >> well, it's also partly to do with whitehall. other whitehall spending departments , which is spending departments, which is that we've now got the nhs and education is due to rise as well . so it's partly about the kind of forecast, what the obr says that's taken into account when they kind of work these things out. but it's also about what ministers, you know, don't really know in terms of financial forecasts. so they try and build a bit of headroom here. but often it's very difficult to kind of, as you say, stephen, you know, given we've seen the past five years for things like the pandemic, for things like the pandemic, for instance, these forecasts are often not particularly accurate. >> what do you make of rishi sunak this week in berlin with olaf scholz? i thought it was quite interesting. yeah. him being very statesmanlike. >> yeah. i mean we're talking about party politics here. but you know, this all comes in the same week that ukraine, for instance, approved £49 billion worth of aid to ukraine and from america . sorry. so the us america. sorry. so the us finally passed that big package of support for taiwan , for of support for taiwan, for ukraine and also for israel. and i think this comes in the context of increased international spending. and i know uk government ministers are very concerned about the nato summit in july, which is going to be in washington, dc, as the last one before donald trump's

potential turn to the white house. so, you know, both publicly and privately, people like rishi sunak, people like olaf scholz in germany , are olaf scholz in germany, are going out there and making the case for an increased defence spending . and they want everyone spending. and they want everyone to sort of wake up and make sure that nato is taking itself seriously . seriously. >> okay. james hill, good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed , as james mentioned, much indeed, as james mentioned, we heard from the procurement defence procurement minister earlier on. let's have a listen to what he had to say. >> we'd go to 2.5% when the economy allowed the crucial factor here is that inflation has fallen sharply under our watch , from just under 11% to watch, from just under 11% to just over 3. that's a very significant fall. and that means now, whereas when inflation was high, we had to do difficult things like not cutting taxes, not increasing spending . it's not increasing spending. it's been not only it's not only we can start bringing tax cuts forward, but we can commit to this hugely significant 2.5, putting an extra £75 billion into the uk armed forces, as you say this time, when it must be self—evident to everybody that the world is a less safe place ,

the world is a less safe place, it's going to be interesting to see what the labour party says on that. >> ultimately we i do have some sympathy in that they can't make a financial commitment of that scale off the cuff. >> well, they can't be seen to make any more u—turns, can they? so i have to think very carefully about that. how to fully cost any more of their pledges? >> oh, ian says , let's be >> oh, ian says, let's be honest, the extra 75 billion isn't going to go on. the british forces . the us is just british forces. the us is just granted 90 billion, even though they're 34 trillion in debt. well, but that's not what he was. to be fair, that's not what the minister was saying. the minister is saying that money is going to go on procurement and, and on recruiting extra people, so i mean, i mean, i can understand your scepticism and all of that. >> well, do ukip reviews coming in gb news. com slash your say on this story or indeed any of the stories that we're talking about this morning? >> now, a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of

attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales. >> yes, amman valley school was put into lockdown shortly after 11 am. after three people were injured. emergency services responded , including wales air responded, including wales air ambulance. police say the injuries are not life threatening. forensic teams have been on site and a knife has been on site and a knife has been recovered and the suspect remains in custody . remains in custody. superintendent ross evans spoke to the media. >> i'm aware that there is footage circulating on social media and i would ask that this is kindly removed to preserve the integrity of the ongoing investigation and to avoid further distress to those involved . this was a very involved. this was a very distressing incident, and i thoughts are with the victim's . thoughts are with the victim's. >> well, let's head to the scene. should we? our reporter , scene. should we? our reporter, jack carson is there for us. morning, jack . morning, jack. >> yeah. good morning to you both. the aftermath of this incident really has proven to be

shocking and distressing to this community. just from the reports of children quite literally screaming down the phone to their parents after the incident yesterday just shows how much of a distressing moment it was for many pupils here. this school will remain closed today but support is on offer and the local church as well opened for those who may want to wish to light a candle because of course it was three people that were stabbed at this school yesterday, two teachers and a teenage girl confirmed by the police to be stabbed. all of them, thankfully with non—life threatening injuries. and a teenage girl this morning remains in custody, arrested on suspicion of attempted murder . suspicion of attempted murder. police confirmed that it was 11:20 am. yesterday when they were called to the scene here to reports of a serious incident and deployed a mass emergency response, including two air ambulances, critical care units, who we believe from a statement from the west welsh ambulance service yesterday, did commit, did do advanced critical care

support delivered by the crews here and also on transfer to the hospital where of course those people remain recovering from their injuries. people remain recovering from their injuries . but also as well their injuries. but also as well it's thought and it's come out in reports that actually it was one of the teachers of the school that tried to stop the alleged attacker during the event, heroically jumping in to try and, of course, defuse the situation. the school here was put on lockdown immediately after that incident . tannoys after that incident. tannoys shouting code red, full lockdown and reports from some students saying they tried to climb the seven foot fences to try and get away from the incident. now, the headteacher of the school yesterday , james durbridge, yesterday, james durbridge, praised the staff and pupils for what he called their calm and mature response to the lockdown. but parents gathered outside this school for hours , just this school for hours, just waiting for that moment to be reunited with their children and know that they were safe in their arms. the school did

eventually release those pupils from lockdown at around 320 yesterday afternoon to very emotional scenes here outside the school, but it's interesting that one of the governors here at the school, who's been a governor here for 34 years, has said that times have changed and is worried about the future, of course, of teaching . this is a course, of teaching. this is a very big concern. what the teacher, what the future will hold . and he believes that the hold. and he believes that the discipline has gone from schools. he says he fears that now these two teachers have been injured. he says times have changed in the last ten years now. forensic officers were seen were on the site here yesterday. we know that a knife has been recovered. police aren't looking for any more suspects possibly involved in this incident, but investigations do continue. here at the school this morning . at the school this morning. >> okay, jack, thanks very much indeed. >> okay, jack, thanks very much indeed . can you imagine having indeed. can you imagine having a system in place where over the school tannoy, you get code red lockdown. >> well, you can understand why

some students are trying to scale the fences, can't you. because you just wouldn't . you'd because you just wouldn't. you'd panic wouldn't you? >> sadly, this is the age we're living in at the moment where these sort of things happen , these sort of things happen, where you get sort of used to it in the states, don't you? tragically. but over here it does make you think of the states and you think of the teachers as well . teachers as well. >> i mean, those poor teachers, it sounds as though two have been injured in this incident, andifs been injured in this incident, and it's just not what they're paid to do or deal with. no knives in the classroom. >> so they're all so not life threatening injuries. so let's hope they all make swift recoveries on that. take a while to get over the trauma though. >> absolutely. and that poor community as well. i mean, the shock they must be feeling this morning. but jack carson will be there for us all morning. so we'll be across that that story in any developments with it now at 715, let's have a look at some of the other stories heading into the newsroom this morning. and three men have been arrested following the deaths of five migrants, including a young girl, while trying to cross the channel yesterday, the national crime agency says they arrested on suspicion of facilitating

illegal immigration and entering the uk illegally . the uk illegally. >> the army says three soldiers were hospitalised when household cavalry horses bolted in central london. several military horses spooked by construction equipment and unseated their riders before making off. they were eventually rounded up and transported away for veterinary care, and the government is set to face a high court challenge against its xl bully ban . against its xl bully ban. >> a campaign group has been given permission to bring legal action against the department for environment and rural affairs . campaigners argue that affairs. campaigners argue that the ban is unlawful and irrational . however, government irrational. however, government lawyers say the challenge should be dismissed . be dismissed. >> i don't know what to make of the whole xl bully thing . the whole xl bully thing. >> i still see a lot of them out and about, a lot of them out and about. >> so we saw one down the pub not very long ago and it was muzzled and everything, all

like, you know, like it should be beautiful dog. >> they are beautiful , and, be beautiful dog. >> they are beautiful, and, you know, car. it seemed like a calm and lovely dog. it just seems to be. is it just the owners who are. who are you? do see, you know, some you can imagine the type who want a big, aggressive dog and, and therefore a sort of encouraging a dog to be aggressive. but if they're properly looked after, are they really going to be that bad? i mean, i just don't know. i'm not an expert on these sort of things. so i don't know. >> you'd be so worried now wouldn't you? because of all the stories that you hear in the news, it's like even if they are lovely, docile dogs, you don't know what they could be capable of . of. >> if they're in there, it's problem. >> but then if you if you've got a dog, which is lovely and sort of docile and the threat of it being put down just because of what it is, i don't know, it's just i don't i don't know what to make of it all. if you've got a view, if your own, if you own an xl bully or you know someone who's been attacked by an xl bully, get in touch. gb views gb news .com/ your say yes, we're still getting used to that ,

still getting used to that, aren't we? >> now 7:17. let's take a look at the weather with annie . at the weather with annie. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it will be a cloudier day today for most of us, with a risk of showers that could fall as snow over the high ground as it's another fairly cold day , snow another fairly cold day, snow risk will definitely be just restricted to parts of scotland, perhaps the pennines on the very highest ground. but for many of us there's a greater risk of showers, particularly as we head through the afternoon across eastern areas. they could turn heavy for a time as well, and there's going to be a good deal more cloud around throughout this afternoon . still some sunny this afternoon. still some sunny spells here and there, but sunshine is definitely going to be a lot more limited than it has been earlier on this week, so temperatures aren't going to quite climb as high, just highs of around 14 degrees in the very best of the sunshine. but for many of us below average for the

time of year now, that rain should start to clear away. the cloud should clear as well throughout this evening. so another clear and dry night for most of us that will allow temperatures to fall away. so it will likely be another cold start to friday. you can see a patchy frost developing for many inland areas by tomorrow morning, but there could also be some mist and fog around. very first thing, but it will be a bright start to the day, so any frost should melt away very quickly and there will be a good deal amount of sunshine, particularly through the morning as you head towards the afternoon skies will get a little bit cloudier with that cloud bubbling up and a few showers breaking out here and there, but the showers are going to be far fewer than on thursday. there won't be quite as heavy as well in the south, though. skies will turn cloudier by the end of the day with a risk of some showery, potentially heavy outbreaks of rain . rain. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> now it is the final week to see if your next holiday could

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i >> welcome back. now, have you ever wondered what the best way to shop is? >> no. >> no. >> i think about it all the time. do you? well, we might just have the answer for you this morning. just have the answer for you this morning . because figures this morning. because figures reveal the second hand sales are on the rise because of their low

costs, sustainability values are those as well. >> now, people who prefer shopping on social media sites like instagram and tiktok seem to get the best discounts available there. >> well, joining us now is entrepreneur jo fairley to tell us more. it looks like a changing world out there, jo. >> it is a changing world, this information comes to us via something called the virgin media 02 movers index, which is a quarterly survey that the phone company does and it tracks all our data. so when we're shopping, they know where we are anonymously, so they can see those patterns and then, the researchers sit down with 2000 businesses and 2000 individuals to really kind of drill down into the factors that are shaping our spending and shaping our planning , and as a business, our planning, and as a business, shaping our strategies. because in a business like i found a green and blacks i've had for subsequent start—ups, you spend so much time firefighting that there isn't always time to focus

on the really important stuff, which is the future planning. >> it's i don't know, i'm always slightly torn on on this sort of idea of pre—loved or second hand stuff and all the rest of it because it's, it's all well and good. it saves you money in your pocket. but is it, is it a money spinner for those people who want to get into that line of work? >> well, i mean , i'm wearing a >> well, i mean, i'm wearing a vintage dress, so i which i, i think i paid £30 for on on vinted and for a lot of individuals actually, it's quite a good way to move things in your wardrobe , and an enormous your wardrobe, and an enormous number of businesses are now even selfridges on, on, oxford street . i saw a, a second hand street. i saw a, a second hand start up store on london bridge station the other day, where a space that was previously, i think, something like a ted baker has been given over to second hand. so there's a

company in in ramsgate and deal called positive retail. so a lot of retailers are , are embracing of retailers are, are embracing this idea that actually we want to buy second hand alongside new. >> well i have changed the way that i've shopped joe because i'm getting married next year. i'm getting married next year. i'm trying to save a bit of money. i have a little bit of a shopaholic, am i not? and so i'm trying to buy more on vintage and things like that, which has been wonderful , actually. and as been wonderful, actually. and as you say, there's lots of bargains to be found and i'm really interested, though, in this rise of people buying on on sites like instagram and tiktok and the discounts that are available on there. so let's a bit more about that , i can't to bit more about that, i can't to be honest, i can't really comment on that. there is. it's true that many more people are buying via social media and businesses , not just virgin businesses, not just virgin media 02 customers, but all businesses are looking at ways to promote themselves more via social media. but what this study also showed was that actually , the local high streets actually, the local high streets are still incredibly important

to us, if i there were, 44% of people want to have a post office in their community, about the same number want a bank? and perhaps less surprisingly, we want local cafes. and i think there's an understanding that when you spend money locally, it tends to circulate locally. it doesn't disappear to some kind of foreign hq or go offshore. it goes round and round in our community. and so i think that that alongside the social media trend, is actually really important. and vital for the fabnc important. and vital for the fabric of our our daily lives. you know, we don't want to spend our whole time on our phones , our whole time on our phones, fabulous as they are. it's a balance that we want with human contact and that amazing facility to, you know, when you need something really boring, you know , buy over the phone, or you know, buy over the phone, or interesting things you can buy over the phone too. but we are human beings and communication in person is important as well

as in, you know, through our tech , i think that another tech, i think that another interesting start that came out of the virgin o2 movers index was the fact that more and more of us are wanting to spend money on, on, self—care and wellbeing. so that was up 23. and i think that's a reflection of the fact that's a reflection of the fact that life is hard. times are tough , the world is uncertain, tough, the world is uncertain, and that we understand that we need to kind of build some, some personal resilience to be able to deal with that kind of thing. so that's a sort of shift in spending patterns as well, i would say the good news about that , joe, is i think chocolate that, joe, is i think chocolate falls under wellbeing and self—care , doesn't it? which is self—care, doesn't it? which is all absolutely great to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed. thank you. joe, i don't know if i need do i need to get into the whole yes, pre—law. i saw something today , pre—law. i saw something today, called it pre—loved and i thought, that's just a nice way of saying second—hand , isn't it? of saying second—hand, isn't it? >> i'll set you up. it's going

to be great. you're going to love it. >> i don't fancy it. >> i don't fancy it. >> it's addictive . >> it's addictive. >> it's addictive. >> no, it's very good because you can get things with labels on. still it'll be half the price or better. yeah. you could buy more then. >> well, i don't want to buy more. >> buy two. >> buy two. >> let's see. >>- >> let's see. >> should you get them half pnce? >>i pnce? >> i don't know, we'll have to see. >> may i just have to see you? you set me up. i'll have a look. >> i will. yeah, i'll set you up, leigh drake says shop locally. keep your town centres alive. now, that is very important. you do want a high street store . you want both? street store. you want both? >> yeah. want both. >> yeah. want both. >> sean says i used to buy things on ebay because many people buy things and don't wear or use them. and it's possible to get bargains. >> and apparently it helps the planet too. he says, well, it's sustainable, isn't it? oh well. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> so it's all it's all good. i think it's a good thing i'll set you up. and a lovely email as well from david aldridge, who says, i'm waiting to hear from my beautiful niece who's in laboun my beautiful niece who's in labour. she's two weeks overdue, so. 50. >> so. >> oh, that's very exciting . >> oh, that's very exciting. >> oh, that's very exciting. >> keep us posted. hopefully we

have a baby in the show. that'll be fun. >> oh, that would be nice. >> oh, that would be nice. >> yeah. let us know when you get some news. >> david, a little push . >> david, a little push. >> david, a little push. >> tell us. push. hurry up. she's got until 930. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> okay. pull pull! don't. paul coyte is going to be with all your support in just a moment. >> oh

!i >> !- >> paul ! >> paul coyte is here with all your support. good morning to you. >> good morning. good morning. the merseyside . excellent. i'll the merseyside. excellent. i'll start that again. it was the merseyside derby. that's what it was yesterday. and everton beat liverpool. it was at goodison first time. they've beaten them there in a long time. i think it's 14 years. was the last time that they actually managed to beat liverpool there. so, liverpool and i mean the most important thing for liverpool concerned is that this this run they're they've having a pop at

they're they've having a pop at the premier league title that's now faltering . and now they're now faltering. and now they're getting a bit wobbly because they cannot score. >> so have we gone from it being a three way three way race a three horse race to a double header. headen >> yes i think so because manchester city, they're playing brighton away today and arsenal are looking very good. and arsenal have the north london derby on sunday against tottenham hotspur , which is tottenham hotspur, which is going to be a ding dong of the highest order. >> how are you feeling about that? having to say that arsenal are looking good. >> yeah. how do you how do you think i did. >> because i'm trying to quite well there. i'm trying to be honest. and i'm saying look arsenal are a very good side and they're playing very well. and obviously inside i'm dying. as i'm saying this , but but it's i'm saying this, but but it's absolutely true. but the, but the north london derby is actually that's when you start going through all these cliches about all bets are off and you never know what's going to happen because most arsenal fans and probably not spurs fans are thinking, also, we're going to win this game. but you just don't know. but anyway, it's really down to the wire. there's

another cliche, yes, but man city so pretty much it looks like it's between manchester city now and arsenal . so it's city now and arsenal. so it's who is going to blink first. we'll just have to see very very tight. but i think liverpool i think it's over for them now. jurgen klopp well yeah but who's going to lead them next season. >> who's going to fill the slot. >> who's going to fill the slot. >> very good. arnie arnie slot arnie. we think arnie from feyenoord . it looks like he's feyenoord. it looks like he's the guy. there's arnie slot. >> how do you get one of the biggest jobs in football when we haven't heard of him? well the thing is there you can teams will be looking elsewhere to think now what? >> the sort of manager that's going to suit the play . going to suit the play. something that's going to be forward thinking, someone that looks like they've got a great future instead of going with old managers because it seems like styles are changing now. it's very much teams really want to play very much teams really want to play attacking football. exciting football. and arnie slot seems to be doing this at

feyenoord, so he'll probably be he'll fit in i think probably. well, he'll he'll probably slot in quite, quite well actually to be honest with you. and so arnie slot nothing confirmed yet but it looks like arnie slot will be the one. right. although we're talking about harvey alonso and he looked like he was going to be the guy, but probably not now. so arnie . now. so arnie. >> right. >> right. >> very good. yes. very good, should we talk about emma raducanu? who's feeling exhausted ? exhausted? >> yeah, she's a bit tired. yeah. she didn't do very well yesterday . she was playing in yesterday. she was playing in madrid, the madrid open and it just didn't really work out for us. like, every time we think this is it, she's back. it's looking great. she had a lovely little run. everything was going well in stuttgart . and then well in stuttgart. and then she's. and in the billie jean cup as well. and then she played in madrid and she took up a wild card in madrid, which basically means that she didn't get in on merit, but she was asked whether she wanted to come in, which she did. she lost six two, six two to the number 82 in the world. argentinian maria lourdes cali, who is probably as same as arnie

slot. quite good, but we've never heard of him. yeah, but anyway. but but she's 82in the world. it was all about unforced errors as far as raducanu was concerned. just missing too many shots. by the way, can you tell though , what a tennis player though, what a tennis player i am because i was doing that. >> that's a backhand. >> that's a backhand. >> yeah , a lot of a lot of >> yeah, a lot of a lot of sports people. and this wasn't even meant a lot of sports people, they often do. this is like when you talk to cricketers and if they talk about bowling and if they talk about bowling and they'll do this and you can see them holding the ball or the batsman, they'll start doing this when they talk about it. so that's how they refer to it. yeah. just there you go. it's an ice. skaters will twirl up in the air. just as you're talking to him. drives you crazy. >> can't say i've done a lot of synchronised swimmers do. >> oh that's it. they have the nose thing like that. you got it like that. that's exactly what they do. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> which i thought birthdays . >> which i thought birthdays. >> which i thought birthdays. >> yeah. i've got a few birthdays. i thought you might like to play our favourite game. yeah, let's play the game. okay, here we go. first one. funnily enough, me talking about cricketers and holding a cricket

ball. our great friend. there he is. you know monty, monty panesan is. you know monty, monty panesar. he's been with us on before. the man with the longest fingers. he's like edward scissorhands. his fingers like crazy like tentacles . but that's crazy like tentacles. but that's how he spins the ball so well. so it's all very well. >> talking about his happy birthday monty. >> how old is monty day? >> how old is monty day? >> yeah, birthday. >> yeah, birthday. >> happy birthday. monty. >> happy birthday. monty. >> 57. >> 57. >> no, seven for monty. he won't be coming on here again. >> oh, really? seven. >> oh, really? seven. >> lower a bit. lower. >>— >> lower a bit. lower. >> 4442. oh, stephen, you're so monty. >> rude. monty it's just. sorry. monty. monty oh, we'll go again. okay. let's go again. that was just monty . that's just an just monty. that's just an openen just monty. that's just an opener. really. another man with magic fingers is all right. michael van gerwen, three time world darts champion. there he is . you know there is. is. you know there is. >> i'm going to put him at 57. >> i'm going to put him at 57. >> there he is. >> there he is. >> oh you're going 57. >> oh you're going 57. >> i'm going 40 for 44. >> i'm going 40 for 44. >> now look, have a look at him. so that's how he looks now.

yeah. so you're thinking 4457. you're going 57. you think he looks 57. definitely. he's 35 years old. he's 30. michael is 35. >> no you're joking. >> no you're joking. >> and there's another sports person who will never come on this show. so that's two out of two. maybe we shouldn't go there. >> right. >> right. >> let's go again. michael. michael van gerwen. let's go with, david moyes now david moyes. let's see how he looks like david moyes who who actually was the last manager. the last time everton managed to beat liverpool in the merseyside derby at goodison park and it's birthday today. there is. he's celebrating there with west ham now. look there he is. is that a recent david sullivan . you can't recent david sullivan. you can't really see that's him. that's how he looks now. that's how he looks now. by the way he has 62. hold on. he's aged quite. he's aged quite well because some people they blossom like a fine wine. this is how we used to look when he was playing for dunfermline. oh david. >> goodness. oh david. >> goodness. oh david. >> he's better now.

>> he's better now. >> he's better now. >> he looks better now doesn't it. >> oh if you listened on the radio he looks cartoon picture doesn't he . doesn't he. >> i mean it's like krusty the clown isn't it. oh well it is now for another reason. >> can we look? look. no, he looks nice. >> he looks great now. yeah, we have got better with age. >> i say he looks 62. >>— >> i say he looks 62. >> 62 for david moyes. what are you saying? >> 65? >> 65? >> 65. it's been a disastrous game. 61. oh, that was very close . ellie was very bad at close. ellie was very bad at all. >> there we are. so i win an.— >> there we are. so i win . >> there we are. so i win. >>— >> there we are. so i win. >> yes, you win with one out of three. well done. >> and we managed to offend. >> and we managed to offend. >> do you want to go one more time and go for the car? yes we do . do. >> oh see what you could have won. yeah. >> see what you could have won. nothing, nothing at all. >> i don't think we should be allowed to play this game because you get nothing in the black. >> do you know it's in the red, out of the black, in the red. >> you get nothing in this game for two and a bit. that's it. that's the one. i think that's what it was. brilliant. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> paul coyte i'll have more for you. no more birthdays though.

oh, that's a shame . oh, that's a shame. >> right? 60 best. >> right? 60 best. >> yeah, well, 65 year old charlie rowley and nichi hodgson , who's 22, will be bringing us through the papers in just a couple of minutes

time -- time to take you through the papers this morning . with former papers this morning. with former adviser to michael gove. charlie rowley. and the author and commentator nichi hodgson. good morning to you both. let's talk railways. should we? charlie? >> what do you make of it? >> what do you make of it? >> choo choo . well >> choo choo. well >> choo choo. well >> it's not that tired this morning . morning. >> i don't want too many cups of tea. obviously >> perhaps not enough. yeah, yes, this is about a labour who, unable to commit to spending what's necessary on our defence, needs. but they are planning

within the first five years of a labour government. should that come to pass to nationalise our railways. now, there's a real reason behind this . because all reason behind this. because all we hear all too often about price hikes and fares on passengers , a couple that with passengers, a couple that with all the delays and cancellations of services and the strikes that take place within the, within our rail network, labour are pledging to take over the whole thing and pledge to run a better service. i don't know anybody who thinks that when a government gets involved to centralise something or nationalise something, that that's going to be more efficient or more effective. well, sometimes it is. >> i mean, i know it didn't work back in the day and it was all a bit of a disaster by the time it was privatised in the sort of 80s. but things have changed now , hasn't it? i mean, the big argument against renationalisation was the idea that you'd have to spend all this money to buy everything out, but their plan means you wouldn't have to do that. it's quite clever. >> well, it to a degree . i mean, >> well, it to a degree. i mean,

you're absolutely right. i mean, they've said that they're going to wait until these contracts that they have with the rail companies and the rail operators when that comes to an end that then there won't be any need to re go through a whole contract and procurement process with those companies again, so they could effectively just nationalise it for, for free. but i think there's clearly a shift, and there has been a shift, and there has been a shift over the last decade as to who should pay for the rail services. so is it the user that pays? that's why, you know, fares have gone up probably for passengers. is it fair for the whole taxpayer to sort of stump up cash for, for the railways when they may not be being used as much or for whatever reason? but you've still then got the issue of strikes, you've got the issue of strikes, you've got the issue of strikes, you've got the issue of that's why , you know, issue of that's why, you know, you see a lot of the cancellation of services. that's why we see some of the delays that passengers so often, complain about. but if you are the government running the show, you haven't got a rail company that you use. a passenger can sort of complain to . it is the sort of complain to. it is the government. and if the service isn't running, then it's are going to be all hell for passengers . i think for the long passengers. i think for the long term. >> i mean, it is risky from from that point of view. but i do

think this is a very attractive policy for a lot of people, beanng policy for a lot of people, bearing in mind that lots of ordinary people have had now several years of absolute chaos on the trains affecting their jobs, you know , affecting their jobs, you know, affecting their childcare, getting their children to school all the rest of it. and i think it's the perfect time to put this forward, given what's happened with the unions and the strikes . with the unions and the strikes. but is it workable? i'm not so sure about that . sure about that. >> do you think the unions will be on side with this one? charlie >> oh, definitely. >> oh, definitely. >> but would they want a big pay rise ? rise? >> they want it to happen. and of course, once you know if it is a nationalised, then you'll have the unions every other week sort of saying to the government, oh, we need more money, we need to pay out, you know, so prices will effectively go know, so prices will effectively 9° up know, so prices will effectively go up anyway for the taxpayer . go up anyway for the taxpayer. the bill will continue to, to grow. there'll be more strikes because the unions will have a bigger say. and that cannot be good for the rail network and for passengers , hard working for passengers, hard working commuters that just want to get to work. >> but who can't get to work now

anyway? >> well, yeah, i mean, that's the issue, isn't it? >> well, let us know what you think on that one. gbnews.com/yoursay what should we look at? should nikki. let's have a look at ofsted, shall we? yes. this in the guardian. ofsted to keep single word ratings that just that's despite backlash. >> so do you remember there was the very sad death of ruth perry, who was a headteacher, who took her own life because of her very poor ofsted report that her very poor ofsted report that her school received and when you look at schools online, for example, i'm doing it for my child right now. you get a synopsis about the school, but you get a single word or two words about the standard of the school, whether it's fantastic, it's not fantastic, but it's, you know, whether it's inadequate or good or outstanding, and ruth perry felt that being reduced to inadequate as her school was, was so reductive that it, you know, it pushed to her a point of taking her own life and her family are

now campaigning for those single words to be, expanders, that you get more detail about a school. you don't just make a judgement based on these labels . i'm in based on these labels. i'm in two minds about this. i come from a family of teachers and, you know, ofsted inspections were always terrifying for all of them. they were extremely stressful. the prep that you had to do in the in the lead up to it, the worry that your department would be the department would be the department that let the school down and all of that. but i don't really see how more detail will make this easier, because surely if a school is still bad, then you're going to get more negative comments, you know, in a paragraph, and it'll be just as damning . a paragraph, and it'll be just as damning. i, i don't think you can necessarily insulate people from having to be inspected. no, i feel like there's an element of that to this story. >> i'll tell you what worries me about this. >> and it's no disrespect to her family or the rest of it, but it seems to me like all of the blame for this tragedy is being put on ofsted. and you know, to anyone who deals with, people who are conceive and considering suicide is there are multiple

factors. >> absolutely , absolutely. >> absolutely, absolutely. >> absolutely, absolutely. >> you know, something can be can be a break point. but obviously, ruth perry suffered from mental health issues in the lead up to this inspection. and i agree that no one single event can push you to that point. >> yeah , yeah, charlie, should >> yeah, yeah, charlie, should we look at something entirely different. >> oh, is she going for. >> oh, is she going for. >> i'm going to go for fryer. >> i'm going to go for fryer. >> oh, you like a fire? i do, but apparently they turn you into a zombie. >> yes, and i was horrified when i was flicking through the papers and picked up the daily star, as i usually do , most star, as i usually do, most mornings. paper not to be missed. most mornings have, you know, and the daily star is basically saying that if you have too many fry ups, it causes insomnia, it causes mental health issues, it causes all kinds of, health problems. but i think it goes on to say that thatis think it goes on to say that that is just an endemic of the society in which we live in. we eat far too many ultra processed foods that do have a negative

impact on us. but i think the idea that we should stop eating fry ups, is for the birds. everybody loves a fry up, and i think if you don't eat a fry up, if you don't enjoy the small things in life in moderation, then you'll become a zombie anyway. probably >> i do think actually a fry up can be quite healthy if you eat organic meat and you have, you know, some. you have mushrooms and tomatoes and things actually , it doesn't have to be that bad for you. scrambled eggs. i think it's all as greasy as you want it. >> it's all about technique, isn't it? >> yeah, but you can make it. but it's not actually necessarily an unhealthy meal. it's just depends what products you use. no >> well that is it is, as the sun says . the sun. the star. sun says. the sun. the star. i beg your pardon? says this morning. it's creating a nation of insomniac zombies. on the plus side, they taste really, really good. >> that's true. >> that's true. >> moderation is key, charlie. >> moderation is key, charlie. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> moderation is key. >> moderation is key. >> who doesn't mind a bit of sausage in the morning? >> well, exactly. well, yes . >> well, exactly. well, yes. thank you. >> some modern manners, please. nikki >> oh my goodness. so desperate. yeah. he absolutely does this morning. well, the daily mail have done a survey of the things

that annoy people the most in homes and, recycling in the wrong bins is up there in the top few. that's seen as an absolute faux pas now, not turning lights off, and not picking up, wet towels off the floor. oh, i absolutely agree with that. really is bad, i hate the smell of wet towels when they haven't been picked up . they haven't been picked up. >> right. >> right. >> yeah. it's not pleasant for anyone , is it? but what's anyone, is it? but what's interesting is that everything now has a kind of, environmental bent to it. so saving money and caring about the planet is important to people. whereas maybe once upon a time it was. >> is it that we're going that way, though? is it just things like, if you realise someone's put the wrong thing in the wrong recycling bin, you know, the bin men won't take it. >> well, there's also that isn't there. and it's very, very irritating because if they see one bottle in the wrong wheelie bin . yeah. they just that's it. bin. yeah. they just that's it. they leave it. and that is very, very annoying. >> and then you've got to faff about fishing it all out. >> oh no it wouldn't get me. i let my husband do that. >> yeah. yeah that's a man job. >> yeah. yeah that's a man job. >> it's disgusting. blue jobs

and pink jobs. >> remember? jobs and pink jobs. >> remember? jobs and pink jobs. >> it's the thing . >> it's the thing. >> it's the thing. >> do you delve around in the bins, charlie ? bins, charlie? >> i don't what surprised me . >> i don't what surprised me. >> i don't what surprised me. >> you usually after a night out. >> wow . but that doesn't >> wow. but that doesn't surprise me. >> no, but i don't know . we've >> no, but i don't know. we've got actually where i live, and we have a very good, recycling and refuse collection service. actually, there's a little community. it's all in the back, the back of the forecourt where all the cars are parked . but all the cars are parked. but everybody has a place for everything. whether it's so it's well, it's well set out as little. >> how many bins have you got out there, i think there's about 3 or 4. yeah, four. but they're big. >> seven. oh, the big ones. >> seven. oh, the big ones. >> but they're quite big industrials. so it's a whole community. so you know everybody throws in there, you know empty bottles , empty bottles and which bottles, empty bottles and which tends to overflow actually my, my community, i have to say some of the things my neighbours get up to is not worth discussing. >> no, but not right. charlie. nikki thank you both very much indeed. >> yes. >> yes. >> thank you. now it's very cold outside. you came in your puffer

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dangerous world by refusing to say if they'll match the government's pledge on defence spending . spending. >> a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales . wales. >> three, three people, two teachers and a student stabbed here at avon valley school yesterday . teenage girl here at avon valley school yesterday. teenage girl remains in custody as this school is closed today and investigations continue. i'll have the latest from wales . from wales. >> well, if you're a parent, put down your phone . new data from down your phone. new data from the states reveals half of teenagers say their parents are too distracted by their devices. >> and we meet the lady who's been crowned britain's biggest collector, victoria mclean has

over 9000 items of harry potter memorabilia at the worth £250,000. >> and in the sport liverpool fire blanks in the merseyside derby as everton win two nil, which puts them eight points above the relegation zone. erik ten hag breathes a sigh of relief for now. for now, as manchester united get past sheffield united and a new world record has been set at 291m, which involves eight seconds in the air and around 70 miles an houn the air and around 70 miles an hour. and i think you can guess what it might be. >> morning. it's a bit of a cloudier day today, and some of us will see some showers. you can find out all the details with me a little later on. >> morning to you. i'm stephen dixon and i'm ellie costello, and this is breakfast on . and this is breakfast on. gb news. at plenty of you getting in touch on railways. this morning. we are talking to labour about that this hour and says i had to commute to london

for my for job 50 years. and the worst journeys were when the trains were nationalised. the unions took them over. we often got just two stops on our journey and they kept having lightning strikes where you get dumped on the platform. oh they were. it did get bad back in the day , but a lot of people say day, but a lot of people say they're bad now, and part of the problem is money is coming out of, you know, for profits to the shareholders. so i just don't know. >> charles says the last time the railways were under government control, the unions controlled it and then wrecked the whole system. >> yeah. phil tapsell renationalise the railways. hilarious. it was a complete disaster before it was privatised, so it's not very popular with you this morning? >> no, no, it's not. we've also been talking about pre—loved shopping. let me see if i can find this now, and, susan, because i promised to set you up, didn't i, susan says, ellie, can you also set me up? i have

loads of pre—loved stuff, and i need to stop listing things. the chocolate lady talked about the high street , chocolate lady talked about the high street, but i need to chocolate lady talked about the high street , but i need to know high street, but i need to know how to do it. vinted is what you want . a site called vinted. no want. a site called vinted. no fees. you just pop everything on there. very easy to use. >> see, the problem is, if you if you. i mean doing it on the high street is good because as as she was saying, it keeps all the money in the local community or tends to the problem with thatis or tends to the problem with that is it means you have to give the clothes away. >> you do. you're not going to make any money so you can't sell them. what i do is i go through my bits and bobs and go, most of it goes to charity shop, but if there's something with a nice label on it or something, or with the label still on, i'll try and put it on. vinted make money. >> this is what i don't get. why would you buy something? and then the labels are still on it. are you wearing it? but leaving the labels on so you know, maybe it doesn't fit, or maybe you didn't go to that event or i don't know, i've got loads of stuff with labels on i've just never worn. >> yeah, it's very bad, very

wasteful. hence why it should be sold. well, yes. >> if you've got stuff like that then great. but i'm not telling. you have to set me up and i'll have a look. so if there's anything i fancy. >> oh, i'm going to cause chaos. you won't be off there. >> i wouldn't buy a suit because you wouldn't know if it would fit or not. >> ties. i get these t shirts, shorts, other people's t shirts. >> yeah. oh, i don't think could. >> oh, he's such a i don't think i could. >> he's that snobbish. yes. snobbish is. >> well no . you give it a good. >> well no. you give it a good. no. you give it a good wash. obviously you're going to wash it before you put it on. i don't fancy you'd have to go for labels on it. it's fine. i'll teach you. >> all right. you let me know if i'm being. if i'm being a snob. >> i think he is. >> i think he is. >> oh, well, i just don't like the idea of it. >> it's great for weddings and things. you don't really have the same thing. she just wear lovely suits. but if you're a woman, you have to wear a new dress every time. and that gets very costly. so i've sold the dresses that i wore to last year's weddings. all right. and that will fund this year's

weddings. >> well, yeah, it's all very good. >> it's like a circle. >> it's like a circle. >> it's like a circle. >> it's a bit of sense anyway. right, talking of money and spending it, labour have been accused of failing to keep britain safe in a dangerous world. >> yes, sir keir starmers party has come under fire for not backing the government's boost in defence spending. >> a prime minister, as you'll be aware by now, is promising £75 billion in new funding to show our enemies that we are resolute and determined well, as shadow ministers declined to promise the same. >> johnny mercer, the veterans minister, says it showed labour could not be trusted on defence, saying labour again refused to back our plan to spend 2.5% of gdp on defence, instead , they gdp on defence, instead, they want to spend years holding a review as the world gets more dangerous while refusing to act to keep the british people safe. >> earlier, we spoke to political correspondent for the spectator, james heale to labour versus the conservatives. >> frankly, both sides have, you know, not been spending enough for the past 30 years. post—cold war, we've had a peace dividend

and right now i think we've seen governments all across the world be slow to act, in response to what's been happening in russia over the past ten years and also the increasing threat of china. so this is why we've had things like the international focus on increased nato spending and donald trump making a lot of noise ahead of a potential return to the white house later this year, we can imagine this is going to be a very popular policy for the tories here. labour will want to do the same, won't they? considering the world that we're living in right now. well, absolutely. >> and of course, you know, security doesn't just, you know, confined to defence. it bleeds into other areas. and so labour have been out saying we're trusted on defence. we're trusted on defence. we're trusted on defence. we're trusted on the economy. we're trusted on the economy. we're trusted with your pension. all different areas. and they've put real strides into making this a key area. the past two years or so. and of course, they're very quick to say, for instance, as angela rayner was yesterday at the despatch box, you know, you've cut the size of the defence to the smallest since the napoleonic war, you know, the napoleonic war, you know, the army is now down to 72,000 in terms of headcount. so they're very quick to criticise. but of course, you know, are they going to back the measures to kind of go along with this.

and as you saw from that interview earlier with james cartlidge, they're very keen to talk about how the reaction has been from very positive for defence. everyone wants to see more kind of, you know, a bigger army, etc. and so how are we actually going to go and deliver that without promising some difficult financial decisions? >> well, that's the thing. i mean, what labour have have made a point of saying, as you would in the run up to an election is everything is costed. i mean, most of it seems to be costed from the non—dom plan that seems to be paying for everything at the minute. so i guess they can't make a commitment on on this until they've worked out how to cost it. >> yeah, well this is we're going to see a lot of during this election campaign. we've seen it before, which is they can't say anything until we've seen the books and they're going to get into government. and i think presumably they'll find it's worse. and then, of course, i think, you know, keir starmers strategy has always been to paint this as a ten year project, a two tum project. and so they'll therefore say it was so they'll therefore say it was so bad, much like the conservatives did in 2010. they therefore need another five years. so i think that we're going to see this in defence and other issues as well, which the labour refused to be drawn into the details. we have this dance in the media every time they do

a media round with sort of seven minute interview saying, what are you going to tell us? and they refuse to give much detail, i mean, you could also say the same with the tories, though, in terms of the detail, because we understand that this is in part going to be costed by cuts to the civil service. but we don't know. and i think it's fair to say we didn't actually get a clear answer in our round earlier where those cuts are going to be in the civil service and also what else, because that's not fully costed, is it? yeah, absolutely. >> i suspect there will be some whitehall creative accounting involved in of that. you involved in all of that. you know, take one for example, know, to take one for example, for instance, when we now talk about, you know, foreign aid spending slightly different, but you is now being you know, that is now being spent huge amount of that spent a huge amount of that on you know, asylum seekers here in the uk. so i'm that there the uk. so i'm sure that there will be some it'll be worth looking at the fine detail of this in terms of rearranging whitehall budgets in order to pay whitehall budgets in order to pay 75 billion is a huge pay for 75 billion is a huge amount of money, and if whitehall efficiencies, we whitehall efficiencies, which we hear about since 2016, it hear a lot about since 2016, it seems that the state has been seems that the uk state has been addicted to spending more and more. i'm very sceptical that more. so i'm very sceptical that you're going to get the spending cuts needed try and this cuts needed to try and cost this thing out . thing out. >> well, joining us now is defence analyst chris newton. good to see you this morning chris. what do you make of this . chris. what do you make of this. >> good morning. in relation to labour's commitments now i have

some degree of sympathy with a party in opposition. i work for the tories and the two in the late 2000. when. when we were. when the tories were in opposition is very difficult as as you mentioned earlier, to be kind of precise and exact . and kind of precise and exact. and the opposition does not have access to detailed , budgets and access to detailed, budgets and figures and, and so forth. so so on that i have a degree of sympathy. but at a couple of weeks ago, starmer made a big fanfare about defence. he tried to outflank the tories on this issue. and if you're going to attack the tories on rightly on on underfunding defence, then you've got to have a good answer and, and you've got to be able to anticipate what the tories might do in response . and the might do in response. and the fact of the matter is, is that labour has not been able to provide a and a more exact answer about what they're going to do with regards to defence.

>> how desperately sure of money are the armed forces? i mean, not only in terms of we know about the you know, there are some recruitment and retention issues, even though the recruitment seems to be going up a little bit. but in terms of, of, of the, the equipment that we need and that we're short of. >> yeah, i mean, i mean, i would argue that the armed forces are, you know, severely underfunded, you know, severely underfunded, you know, severely underfunded, you know, there are lots of expensive projects. and if you look at the various threats that we face at the moment, multiple threats, russia , iran, china, threats, russia, iran, china, nonh threats, russia, iran, china, north korea, the terrorism threat which hasn't gone away, it's, you know, it's still there , that requires not only advanced technology, but it also requires, manpower in order to fulfil multiple commitments . and fulfil multiple commitments. and the tories have pledged 2.5.

however, we're in the cold war scenario, i would argue, and towards the end of the last cold war in the 1980s, defence spending was around 3.8, or just below 4% of gdp. as i said, it's the tories are pledged 2.5, percent. and so in relation to comparing it now is obviously technology has moved on. but but if we're in this, you know, a pre—war scenario, if we're in this cold war scenario, then i don't think 2.5, even 2.5% is going to cut it. >> i mean, when we're looking at recruitment and we do know that numbers are up slightly this yean numbers are up slightly this year, but we are going to have to recruit very quickly, aren't we, to make our armed forces more effective? con coughlin has written in the telegraph today talking about the royal navy, their staffing levels currently mean that the two new queen elizabeth class aircraft

carriers can't even be manned. i mean, it's a damning state of affairs, isn't it ? affairs, isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, and i mean, this is one of the, the, the issues of having , you know, the, issues of having, you know, the, the economy that we have, you know, the at times of economic prosperity , you know, the prosperity, you know, the recruiting in the armed forces is difficult . recruiting in the armed forces is difficult. but but but you're right, one of the issues that we face is, is manpower, as you said, that the army is coming down to 72,000. i mean, i mean, it would help if we didn't actually cut the, the numbers as well. and we kept people, as well. and we kept people, as well. but but we do need to make the armed forces a more attractive proposition in terms of pay conditions and, and, and other elements as well. so, so we do need the manpower as well as the equipment. >> chris. good to see you. thank you very much indeed. well, it gives us lots to talk to the labour party about. we've got, the rail network is a big issue

that they're pushing today , but that they're pushing today, but also the defence issue. let's talk to the shadow financial secretary to the treasury, james murray, who joins us now. good to see you before we get on to the tracks, can we talk about defence, chris newton there, the defence, chris newton there, the defence analyst made a good point , defence analyst made a good point, didn't he, about sir keir sort of trying to lay down the line to on defence spending to the prime ministerjust a few weeks ago when he said make no mistake, this is a generational, multi—decade commitment that the labour party would make to defence. why then , just a couple defence. why then, just a couple of weeks later, is emily thornberry sort of coming out and saying, no, no, no, no, no, we can give you absolutely no pledge on increasing the spending to 2.5. when sir keir has already said he wants to do it . it. >> well, you're absolutely right that we want to get to 2.5. what we've said is that in order to set out the pathway of how we get there, we need to be in government, because, you know, it's right that the opposition

doesn't know all of the details about defence, about all of the information that the ministry of defence and so on, which is why we've said that if we get in, we would initiate a strategic defence and security review to establish a threat to work out what we need to invest in to keep the nation safe . and that keep the nation safe. and that alongside the spending review, seeing what financial situation , seeing what financial situation, what financial mess frankly, we would inherit if we did win the next general election, then we can set out our pathway to that 2.5. so it's a clear commitment to get to that 2.5, but it's being responsible as well. about from a position of opposition as saying how what we would need to do to work out the route to get there . there. >> look, it's a perfectly valid point. everyone acknowledges that you don't have access to the books at the moment, but it's not a clear commitment when if anyone's concerned about the defence of this country, when the tory party say within five years it will be 2.5, an additional £75 billion. emily thornberry is saying, when

circumstances allow, which is so weak it's unbelievable . weak it's unbelievable. >> but look, hang on, the government haven't set out their spending plans up to 2030. so, you know, if the government want to publish their spending plans for 2030 and explain how they're going to get there, then we'll look at them, of course. and actually, i think that, you know, at the moment people are keen as well to judge the government by their record because they have been in power for 14 years. you know, we know that over £15 billion has been wasted on mismanaged defence procurement since 2010. we know how much the army has been reduced. you know, people i think will look at the government's record over the last 14 years when considering how much they can trust any of the promises they're making now. but you mentioned that review that you would undertake into defence spending if and when you come into power. >> that's been criticised by johnny mercer, the veterans minister, saying that the labour party wants to spend years holding this review as the world gets more dangerous while refusing to act to keep the

british people safe. he says this shows labour cannot be trusted on defence. what do you say to that? >> i think that's completely wrong. i think this is about keeping the british people in the uk safe. this is about making sure that we're investing in what we need to keep us safe, andifs in what we need to keep us safe, and it's about doing it on the bafis and it's about doing it on the basis of evidence. when we get into government, if we get into government because we can't do it from a position of opposition, because we don't have access to all of the detailed information in the ministry of defence and other departments, that's that's normal for oppositions not to have access to information. and when it comes to something as important as defence, you know, this is not something you want to make, you know, final decisions on from a position of opposition where you don't have access to all that information. so it's the responsible thing to do to keep us safe, to say we would have this security review if we got into government. and on the basis of that , make sure on the basis of that, make sure we were spending and investing what is needed to keep us safe . what is needed to keep us safe. >> you willing, though, to make commitments about the rail service in this country ?

service in this country? >> that's right. well, we're setting out today our detailed plan for reforming the way that the railways would work because i think anyone who travels by rail or tries to travel by rail will know the problems that we face in terms of cancellations being a record high, you know, the cost of tickets has gone up twice as fast as wages since 2010. people know that things need to change. and so that's why we set out our plan today, which is about increasing standards for passengers. it's about bringing down costs for taxpayers, and it's about supporting economic growth across the country. >> but all of this takes time. doesn't it? you would have to allow for all existing rail contracts to expire in order to come under state control. i mean, that's going to take years, isn't it? some suggestions that could take six years. that means you're going to need a second time to even put this plan into action. >> well, you're right to identify the point around waiting for contracts to expire, because that's a really important point around around the cost , around the fact that

the cost, around the fact that there would be no cost to taxpayers of bringing these contracts in—house, of bringing them under the control of great british railways. because, you know, if you wait for the contracts to expire and then fold them into great british railways, which we would set up , railways, which we would set up, you don't have buy—out costs or compensation costs. so that's an important point about how we would implement this. so yes , it would implement this. so yes, it would implement this. so yes, it would take time because you have to wait for the contracts to expire. but the contracts should should expire over the course of the next parliament, which means over the next parliament we could bring the private train operating companies to integrate british railways alongside folding network rail into the new arm's length body. and that would then mean that we would have a unified system to run the railways and, you know, a crucial point around that is that, you know, we think there's up to £22 billion of waste, which is currently vie as a result of fragmentation, inefficiencies and so on in the railway network. by unifying that, you could bear down on that, you could bear down on that cost and save money for taxpayers , but you would have to taxpayers, but you would have to spend hundreds of millions of

pounds on rolling stock, wouldn't you? >> that would have to be bought back. >> that would have to be bought back . and in terms of back. and in terms of efficiencies, i mean, that's a big concern . sorry, can i just. big concern. sorry, can i just. >> no, sorry. can i go on? sorry. can i just can i just jump sorry. can i just can i just jump in on that. because the rolling stock point, we've been very clear that we would leave the rolling stock arrangements as they are where payments are made for rolling stock leases. and actually, at the moment, the government already pays the rolling stock lease payments. okay >> oh well that clears that one up. jolly good, but in terms of the inefficiencies you mentioned, i mean, what everyone's getting in touch with us this morning and saying and surely you can understand why . surely you can understand why. why is how do you stop this becoming inefficient if it's a nationalised rail service? because that's what happened last time. it was inefficient. you know , awful rolling stock you know, awful rolling stock cancellations left, right and centre flash striking the unions, holding the government to ransom. how would you stop that happening again ? that happening again? >> well, you're right to say this is not about going back. this is about, you know, learning the lessons from from

british rail from the past, but also learning the lessons from the privatisation, which has not succeeded in fulfilling its aims in recent years. because if you look at, you know, british rail in the past, it was, you know, arguably much too bureaucratic . arguably much too bureaucratic. engineers were put first rather than passengers. and then if you then look at privatisation in recent years, you know, the key aims of privatisation were increasing efficiency, increasing efficiency, increasing competition, reducing pubuc increasing competition, reducing public subsidy. you know, it's failed on those counts, you know. so we need to learn the lessons from previous public and private models of delivery and set up our new great british railways now, which would have all of the franchises operated from great british rail. so it would be a unified system, but making sure that the private sector would still have a role in terms of open access providers and private freight as well. so it's a pragmatic solution to the fact that the railways right now are broken and passengers deserve better. >> james murray, good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed. >> now, a teenage girl has been

arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a student were stabbed at a school in wales. >> yes, amman valley school was put into lockdown shortly after 11 am. after three people were injured. >> let's get the latest from the scene with our reporter, jack carson. morning, jack . carson. morning, jack. >> yeah. good morning to you both. this school remains closed today for pupils after that horrific incident. it's been described as both horrifying and of course, distressing for the students that were involved in that incident. two teachers and one teenage girl we know were stabbed here yesterday. that was confirmed by the police yesterday. thankfully, we've heard from a statement from the police yesterday that they are now in a non—life threatening condition and they are on their way, of course, to recovery . but way, of course, to recovery. but police have, of course, a teenage girl in custody. they arrested her yesterday on suspicion of attempted murder. they continued to question her and of course investigate the scene here. we've seen forensic

officers and police vans and cars in and out already this morning as those investigations continue, we know that a knife was recovered from the scene here and the police aren't looking for any more suspects. but the element of the attack, the kind of attack, of course, it was with these three people getting stabbed, has been very distressing for the community that this doesn't happen at all in places like ammanford. that's really where much of the shock has been. and one of the counsellors in the local area here commenting this morning that the council has spent so much on fences to try and keep. of course, the people inside the school safe, not not realising or thinking ever really in any situation that the danger would actually be from inside the school. i mean, just from reports from the children that witnessed this incident yesterday, we've heard that some of them tried to scale the seven foot fences to try it and get away. some of them, of course, ringing their parents, screaming down the phone that somebody at the school had been stabbed.

parents, of course, rushed here, but the school was on lockdown. there was a tannoy announcement saying code red. the schools in lockdown and students and teachers had to stay where they were. as, of course, a mass emergency response descended onto this school. we know that there were four ambulances here, two air ambulances were also deployed here to the scene, as well as, of course, a mass police response as part of this incident and the headteacher of the school here, james durbridge, praising staff and pupils , where he called their pupils, where he called their calm and mature response to the lockdown. but of course, for those parents having to gather outside the school multiple hours, they had to wait. it was only 320 yesterday afternoon. the incident and the police were called at 1120 in the morning. so that amount of time for these parents to have to wait outside the school was particularly distressing. but the investigations here at the school continue into today. >> jack carson, thank you very much indeed. >> now a lot of you have been getting in touch about the tric awards. >> yes , and yes, as your

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gb news. >> now, when it comes to mobile phones , we're all guilty of phones, we're all guilty of overdoing it. actually, apparently , too many parents are apparently, too many parents are too tied into their phones . i too tied into their phones. i don't know whether our phones are about. in case you don't know what they are, there you go. >> but also the point we're trying to make is they're always with us. >> they're always with us. and also, too many kids have got smartphones now as well. i mean, it's a shocking number of like 5 to 7 year olds have got quarter, 5 to 7 year olds have smartphones, according to ofcom . smartphones, according to ofcom. so do we need to have a digital detox? do we think? >> well, joining us now is the author of digital box. mark ellis. good to see you this morning mark. and this is your book isn't it. digital box. it

is. and it's all about your family's experience . point of family's experience. point of going phone free or tech free entirely. >> tech free entirely. well, tech free some of the time. i think we all need to go on a bit of a digital diet, right? we would need junk food all day long. we'd need chocolate all day long. shouldn't really be on the phones all day long. just realise i left mine outside. i'm getting just as well getting anxious. but is that a real thing? >> i mean, do you still get anxious without your phone or things less and less? >> and it depends on how much time you spend away from it. so it's an addiction. we broke. it's a control that we now have. so you shouldn't really let your your tools rule over you really i think good, good tool. >> but what led you to that point as a family? you've got four children, haven't you. foun four children, haven't you. four. yeah. when did you decide that enough was enough and you had to have a detox? >> had a bit of a dad moment, actually, i'd love to say there was some scientific approach to this, but no one was paying much attention to me. one sunday morning and i pulled the router out of the wall, which is the thing that controls the internet for the house, and took everybody's phones and devices away. and i'm not going to do

this, but they had their good kids and they had such a negative reaction to it. it piqued my interest into why that would be. and that led me down the route of seeing that this was an addiction, like anything else. and so on and so forth. i set out to kind of break it using the family as an experiment. all right. >> so how difficult was it? and do you do you genuinely think this is something families really need to do? >> i do, i do and there's more and more studies are showing now that there's actual damage to grey and white matter in the brain being caused by this , brain being caused by this, especially when children are exposed to it. not so much for me being slightly older, but it's very formative. it does make changes to your personality. it limits your ability to focus . it limits your ability to focus. it limits your ability to focus. it limits your ability to focus. it limits your ability to emotionally connect memory . there's a whole raft of memory. there's a whole raft of things. that's not to say that the internet is evil and smartphones are evil. it just means like, you know, show a bit of control, a bit of restraint. >> what benefits have you seen from cutting back on phone use

in your household? >> so we definitely saw the kids educational standards go up. that was that was significant. and the kids now, you know, they're 24 down to 14. when we started this, they were they were three teenagers and one youngen were three teenagers and one younger, we've seen better . i younger, we've seen better. i would say they have stronger social all going to kill me for this, but they have better social skills. i think , than social skills. i think, than some of their peers. they're better able to interrelate and they have the ability now. well, well, well, they go on the phones a lot. they have the ability to put it down and it doesn't cause them stress. >> well, and what's the addictive part? because, is social media the key problem? because it's a thing that sucks you in. there's no end point to it. >> well, your phone is going to feed you. it's really, really smart people in the tech industry. right. so i've been in the tech industry for 30 years. so the some of the best paid people in tech are trying to get you to use their product, whether that's social media or onune whether that's social media or online shopping. anything that can pique your interest every time you do something you like ,

time you do something you like, you get your little dopamine hit and then that reinforces it. social media is prime for that because anything you post, you can help think, do people like it and you're checking for likes or , you know, people actually or, you know, people actually touch their phones more than they pick them up just to check they're there? or is there a like or is there a vibrator or is there a this or is there a that a very strange, strange concept. >> it is a very strange concept. mark, we're out of time. fascinating to talk to you. >> and this is the book. where can people get it if they're interested in reading a bit more major online retailers and in the bookstores? >> lovely. >> lovely. >> mark, good to see you. thank you very much indeed. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i think we all need to be a little bit more sensible , don't little bit more sensible, don't we, about all these sort of things. to be perfectly honest, it's nice being away from your phone sometimes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i'm not as bad as i used to be by a long shot. oh, really? >> when i'm cleaning, i leave the phone in a different room, and i quite like it. yeah, yeah . and i quite like it. yeah, yeah. >> cleaning. oh, dear me , paul >> cleaning. oh, dear me, paul coyte got your sport in just a couple of minutes. don't pick up your phone, but don't go anywhere. >> yes

i >> -- >> paul coyte is here with all the latest sport. let's talk football. paul. >> everton two, liverpool . nil. >> everton two, liverpool. nil. ouch! i just want to do the classifieds. i've always . wanted classifieds. i've always. wanted to be able to. ha ha ha ha! but i'll tell you a great result for everton because liverpool obviously going for the premier league. jurgen klopp i think has chosen his time to leave liverpool very wisely. a couple of months ago. then he, you know, it was completely out of the blue. i can't believe he's going to go. and he said he's tired. that he wants to, you know, spend more time living his life. but i think managers know when . this is probably our last when. this is probably our last shot at the title. unless things change and then it's going to

take time to rebuild. so i think he's thought about that and thought and he's chosen it wisely. so it pretty much proved it yesterday because liverpool just couldn't score yesterday. everton were very good. so the first time that everton have beaten liverpool at goodison park for 14 years, so it's a very happy toffees around . very happy toffees around. >> so what's that do in terms of the title race. >> well in terms of the title race we are well liverpool are pretty much i think what i'd say . i mean you wouldn't. arsenal, a top played 34 with 77. liverpool have also played 34. they're only three points behind but there's not many games left. manchester city have played two games left. they're on 73 so they play brighton tonight. i mean it's still absolutely possible that liverpool could do it, but it seems that their form is a little bit off at the moment. so proper probably between arsenal and man city. most people are saying man city, but i have a feeling about arsenal. >> okay. i don't know. >> okay. i don't know. >> it's just a worrying feeling that i might have at the moment. >> and talking about jurgen klopp , do we know anything more

klopp, do we know anything more about his successor? >> only we don't know whether it's an irony or an irony. it's r and e, so if it's ana , ana, r and e, so if it's ana, ana, charlotte, yes, there's ana , charlotte, yes, there's ana, he's the final manager and a few clubs have been after him. actually, leeds supposed to have been after him. spurs were interested in him last year and also chelsea as well . liverpool. also chelsea as well. liverpool. see that's the thing. if he's going into liverpool, it's the sort of job you can't turn down. but you've got to get it right because if you're going to come over here and then you're going to go straight into such a big job, is it a poisoned chalice? it's a poisoned chalice. but it's going to be a very tricky job. but anyway, he is the person that looks likely to take over and apparently liverpool is speaking to them right now. man united beat sheffield united four two, by the way. we're losing twice. so it was like oh blimey, not again. it's happening. so erik ten hag stay of execution and crystal palace great result against newcastle. they won two nil yesterday. >> very good. >> very good. >> yeah. so you rattling through that and i would say about 107km an hour.

>> well it's funny you should say that steven isn't it. it is because i imagine ski jumping is what we will talk about. now, do you know, 1808 is when ski jumping began and it was a norwegian by the name of olaf rye. and do you know how far he jumped? how many metres? two 5002 is closer. nine. i mean , 5002 is closer. nine. i mean, you could probably just jump off a hill without any skis at nine metres. but anyway, the olympic champion ryoyu kobayashi, broke the ski jumping record yesterday. there he is now. have you ever stood at the top of one of these things? no. >> i'll be terrified. it is terrifying . terrifying. >> absolutely terrifying. now there he goes. he's getting up to a speed of around around 108km an hour, which i believe is around 70 miles an hour. goodness, 291m beat the world record by 37.5m just floating. >> so he flies through the air for eight seconds, isn't it? or just over eight seconds? >> exactly right. eight seconds. and he lands. it seems longer, but slow motion. actually. you

can't even tell whether it's slow motion or not because he's. >> no, you can't tell through the air. but how has he done it? because, i mean, to beat the world record by what, about 100ft? it's a lot. >> yeah, well, what he's done is really, really leant forward. it's all. but the thing is, it's a special i think it's not one of the olympic jumps that you usually get. it looks sort of less 50 metre. >> it looks a bit less severe somehow. >> and also there's probably a huge hill and a big dip underneath. i don't know what the what the guinness book of records have as their conditions. but anyway, he's absolutely smashed it. so i mean, that's the closest that anybody . can get to flying. and anybody. can get to flying. and i just think the first time you do it, it's probably more nerve wracking than probably the first time that you go to a nudist beach. it's probably those two things. first time of that or jumping off a ski jump. can you imagine for the first time? >> well, i think we should do a compare and contrast or nudist ski jumping. >> there's something, there's one for the future, maybe not. but anyway , record level world but anyway, record level world record. so well done to the

olympic champion ryu kobayashi. >> yes, very good, i love it. >>— >> yes, very good, i love it. >> it just looks fantastic. i couldn't do it in a million years, but that's probably why it's so good to watch . it's so good to watch. >> yeah, because it's so bonkers. we wouldn't do it. >> no. true. all right. we're going to take a short break. we're back with the papers and charlie rowley and nichi hodgson in just three minutes.

chris it's chris wsfime chris it's time for the papers this morning with charlie rowley and nichi hodgson . morning again. nichi hodgson. morning again. you too. charlie, let's have a look at all of the front pages. just about, a look at these household cavalry horses that got spooked yesterday . got spooked yesterday. >> yes, a very strange sight. if you were in central london yesterday, because you would be on your morning commute and all of a sudden, six, i think, or seven horses had disappeared or

were let loose running through the streets of london, crashing into cars. one a photo of a beautiful white horse that's got blood, obviously down its front, just as you're seeing on the screens there as it, collided with a car and they were on a training exercise with seven, with six military personnel and the whole point of this exercise was to get the horses used to everyday traffic and sounds that you'd hear in london, but they were passing a construction site where a large concrete block was dropped immediately next door to them, and it spooked the horses and obviously threw off the household cavalry and as you can see, horses descending through central london. but they were caught and returned and everybody is safe, it's important to say. but quite a sight if you were a morning commuter through central london, there on the loose for a long time, weren't they . time, weren't they. >> two hours. yes. >>— >> two hours. yes. >> and got one of them got all the way to limehouse. i didn't london geography. but from central london to limehouse. >> yeah , it's a long way. >> yeah, it's a long way. >> yeah, it's a long way.

>> i don't know, dear me. poor thing, but at least they're all right. and the members of the smashed a bus up there. i don't know how they did that. yeah they must be terrified to do that. >> absolutely terrified. yeah. but yeah , the vets say they're but yeah, the vets say they're fine. so good, just interest marcus armitage. armitage, i think you say in the telegraph he is a racing correspondent, and he says even the most highly trained horses can bolt, which i didn't realise i would think if they were super duper trained . they were super duper trained. >> they're very sensitive creatures. >> yeah, they are very sensitive. >> it's funny that we use them for such sensitive work in a way, obviously because of their physical strength, but they are very emotionally sensitive. >> yeah. oh well, there you go. aren't we all, nicky? aren't we all, can we have a look at getting away to venice ? getting away to venice? >> yes we can. well, as of today , if you are a day tripper to venice, you will have to pay a fee to enter, there are going to be 29 peak days across the summer and mostly weekends from thursdays, this trial will take mmwwsmnmamumm place thursdays, this trial will take place if you go into the city.

you have to pay about ,5 to go in. i don't think that's a lot to pay to. to protect venice, because the problem with venice, of course, is that it's sinking, it's sinking, and every time it floods, that damages things like saint mark's and some of the most beautiful galleries and artworks and churches. and so they have to get money from somewhere. and also very importantly for venice, if it's damaged any further, it will lose its status as a unesco world heritage site. so this is a vital i think this is a vital part in protecting that and protecting the tourism. but other people in venice disagree , other people in venice disagree, and they say it's treating venice like a theme park, yes. >> well, it is a bit like a theme park. you've got to pay an entrance fee. >> yes. >> yes. >> it'll put people off. >> it'll put people off. >> it'll put people off. >> it could appear that way and it might put people off. and i suppose if they want the tourism, if they want more people to come to spend money on the shops to and keep the venice economy going, then, then, then, then it might put people off. but i've never been to venice, i have to say. but it wouldn't put me off, i don't think. >> no, i don't think it's enough to put you off. but apparently on the 25th of april, which is a pubuc on the 25th of april, which is a public holiday in italy, 5500

people have booked a ticket to go to venice, and that's already raised 27,500 euro for the city. so i think this is a good little money—maker. >> yeah. yes. i don't think it's too bad for pound 30. yeah. you're in venice anyway. you're probably willing to spend £4.30 practically a cup of coffee in this country at this point. >> that's true. it's not, it's too not it's not too bad. in a way. i was i wasn't that impressed with venice . impressed with venice. >> oh. were you not controversial? >> i haven't been , i've been. >> i haven't been, i've been. yeah, i've lived in italy. i've been all around. but i haven't been all around. but i haven't been to venice. >> yeah. no, it's just, i mean, it's sort of all right, but you can sort of do it in an afternoon. oh sort of thing . and afternoon. oh sort of thing. and it is a bit smelly. so is it worth the ,5 or the, or would you say, is it go back to venice was beautiful. >> absolutely beautiful. there's nowhere like it. >> oh no i wasn't i wasn't hugely impressed. maybe it's all right but i wouldn't, i wouldn't ihave right but i wouldn't, i wouldn't i have no plans to ever go back. do you like other italian cities or florence, for example? oh, i've not been to florence. >> i've loved really good

florence, really special perugia i've been to. >> that was bologna is very nice. >> oh, yeah. >> oh, yeah. >> lovely, do we have time to talk about barbados? yes, we do . talk about barbados? yes, we do. oh, sorry. nikki. that's another one of yours. sorry, charlie. >> sorry, charlie. he's all right. he's chilling out, so he'll have something to say. i'm sure this is a this is a very controversial story. >> when i first saw this story a week ago, i was really surprised this was happening . so i don't this was happening. so i don't know if you saw, but there's a tory mp, richard drax , whose tory mp, richard drax, whose family own a plantation from the 17th century. he inherited it and, this plantation is in barbados and the barbados government wanted the land. so they offered him 1.5 million to buy it. and this was obviously extremely controversial, because in this day and age we're talking about reparations, i.e. people, black people should be paid for the fact that they were enslaved and for land that was taken off them. and this is actually the reverse of this. and it was a government that wanted to do it anyway. there's been a lot of public outcry about it. and, the prime minister, mia mottley of barbados , has reversed her barbados, has reversed her decision and we'll no longer be buying it. right. so there you go. >> is he getting to keep it?

>> is he getting to keep it? >> he is. yeah. i mean, he doesn't. he was happy to sell it because he's not really doing anything with it. but i guess for him he's a bit of a quandary. now what does he do with that land? i'd donate it back personally if i was him. i think that'd be a nice thing to do. he's already got 150 million. he's not broke. yeah very generous thing for richard drax to donate it back and score some points with the woke left. what do you think? you'll probably keep your seat . probably keep your seat. >> well, i do think richard drax would be. quaking in his boots or worried about the woke left or worried about the woke left or appeasing . or appeasing. >> the hell is he in a safe seat, charlie, though i don't know where his seat is. >> it's some. >>- >> it's some. >> it's some. >> it is, in the south—west, and it's his south dorset. there we are. >> oh, that sounds very safe to me. >> well, we'll have to wait and see, but i've never been to barbados either. >> well, you know, i haven't lived. >> i think i'll be off immediately after this. >> i'll be booking flights to venice. >> get yourself on a plane. >> get yourself on a plane. >> and then barbados. yeah. >> and then barbados. yeah. >> would you like to come? >> would you like to come? >> i don't agree with reparation, but i don't think we should be paying him to sort of get it . get it. >> sounds very distasteful. it does. >> right. you too. it's been a

sort of joy. thank you very much i >> -- >> you very emma hum: >> you very much. >> you very much. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it'll be a cloudier day today for most of us, with a risk of showers that could fall as snow over the high ground as it's another fairly cold day. snow risk will definitely be just restricted to parts of scotland, perhaps the pennines on the very highest ground. but for many of us there's a greater risk of showers, particularly as we head through the afternoon across eastern areas. they could turn heavy for a time as well, and there's going to be a good deal more cloud around throughout this afternoon. still some sunny spells here and there, but sunshine is definitely going to be a lot more limited than it has been earlier on this week, so temperatures aren't going to quite climb as high, just highs of around 14 degrees in the very best of the sunshine. but for many of us below average for the time of year now , that rain

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gb news. >> good morning to you. it's 9:00 on thursday, the 25th of april. today, labour have been accused of failing to keep britain safe in a dangerous world by refusing to say if they'll match the government's pledge on defence spending . pledge on defence spending. >> a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales . wales. >> well, investigations here at the school continue this morning as it remains closed to pupils for the day. a knife has been recovered and the police aren't looking for any more suspects , looking for any more suspects, and that teenage girl remains in custody. i'll have the latest from wales and we'll meet the lady crown, britain's biggest collector, after having a harry potter memorabilia worth more than £250,000. >> good morning . it's a bit of a >> good morning. it's a bit of a cloudier day today and some of us will see some showers . you

us will see some showers. you can find out all the details with me a little later on morning. >> to you, i'm stephen dixon and i'm ellie costello , and this is i'm ellie costello, and this is breakfast on . gb news. breakfast on. gb news. plenty of people getting in touch about venice this morning after i said i wouldn't go back . after i said i wouldn't go back. >> oh, i would, i loved it. vivienne was saying, are they agreeing with me? >> yes, of course they are. vivienne miller says it's the most romantic city in the world. >> vivienne, i'm with you and i like your nose . like your nose. >> you like vivienne? >> you like vivienne? >> i love the name vivienne. >> i love the name vivienne. >> oh, grandma was called vivienne . vivienne. >> oh, well, there you go. we've got a lot in common, you and i. >> yes. oh, deborah's never fancied venice. always thought it would smell of stagnant water. yeah. >> it does. >> it does. >> you and deborah, it does smell, doesn't it? no, no, i don't think it did. i've been twice now. >> graham says it looks like a movie set. i've been several times and would go back again today. >> i just think it's so beautiful and so romantic . it's

gorgeous. >> well, each to your each, each to their own. if you fancy it. >> yeah, i'd pay £4.30 or something to go back . yeah, i something to go back. yeah, i thought it was very good, i'm just trying to see if there's anything else that we can read. >> no , they've all gone. >> no, they've all gone. >> no, they've all gone. >> yeah. there you go. >> yeah. there you go. >> you read all the venice ones , >> you read all the venice ones, have you? >> yeah, it's. >> yeah, it's. >> well, it's a good one. >> well, it's a good one. >> so many , so many. hey, fred. >> so many, so many. hey, fred. >> so many, so many. hey, fred. >> fred, you can you can travel the canals of birmingham cheapen the canals of birmingham cheaper. there you go. yes, there you go. that's a good answer. >> right. >> right. >> anyway , enough of that, >> anyway, enough of that, labour have been accused of failing to keep britain safe in a dangerous world. >> yes. >> yes. >> the keir starmer party has come under fire for not backing the government's boost in defence spending. >> prime minister promising 75 billion in new funding that will show our enemies . we are show our enemies. we are resolute and determined as shadow ministers declined to promise the same. >> johnny mercer, the veterans minister, says it showed labour could not be trusted on defence, saying labour again refused to back our plan to spend 2.5% of gdp on defence, instead , they

gdp on defence, instead, they want to spend years holding a review as the world gets more dangerous while refusing to act to keep the british people safe . to keep the british people safe. >> let's talk to former nato commander and mod director general chris parry. good to see you this morning, chris, what's the reality here for the labour party? would it be sensible to hold, a defence spending review ? hold, a defence spending review? >> well, i'm afraid i get very sceptical about defence reviews. they sort of come around, every time you get a new parliament. the fact of life is we need a strategy , a national strategy strategy, a national strategy for defence, which balances the sort of outcomes that we want in terms of capability , the means terms of capability, the means that are available, the money that are available, the money that is. and also the technological and human assets that we've got , and technological and human assets that we've got, and i'm afraid to say, just saying we're going to say, just saying we're going to spend 2.5% of gdp, doesn't really translate into anything. we've seen successive governments managed to waste billions on, really fruitless

projects. so what i'd much prefer to see is any government say to me, look, this is basically the context in which our armed forces are going to have to operate, and these are the capabilities we're going to bnng the capabilities we're going to bring to the battle, unless you do that, just just saying we're going to spend money is, i'm afraid, just tokenism . afraid, just tokenism. >> money is one thing, manpower is another, isn't it? i mean, concomitant writing in the telegraph today, talking about a shortage of staff for the new queen elizabeth class aircraft carriers, both of them, and in the raf , a shortage of trained the raf, a shortage of trained pilots . pilots. >> well, ali, i'm afraid we're living really with the sort of hangover from decreasing our defence forces progressively since 2010, i'm afraid to say. the current foreign secretary took a real axe to our defence capability. in 2010, i wrote a scathing article in one of our national newspapers about it, and we're living with the

effects of that. i'm afraid we're scaled right back in terms of manpower, which is a considerable cost as you might imagine. and you can't just grow this manpower overnight. there's a second issue. also, i think a lot of people are put off the armed forces nowadays because they're not seen to be doing what they're supposed to be doing, and that is fighting the king's enemies and deterring people who will do us harm , people who will do us harm, there's all sorts of other things that they're distracted by, that i'm afraid need to go by, that i'm afraid need to go by the board . by the board. >> you see, this is a problem, though, isn't it, with defence spending. and i wonder if any government will ever learn, chris, that it's. it's one thing, you know, we go through these periods of peace and thank heavens for it. so they pare everything down. but you can't. it's not the sort of thing where you can have a knee jerk reaction and suddenly build it up again. no that's absolutely right. >> i mean, you know, one of the things i keep saying in writing and on on programmes like yours is that in a dangerous world, peace doesn't keep itself rafe. and if you talk to the israelis, they will say to you that

weakness is a provocation. and one of the reasons that vladimir putin, xi jinping, the iranians and the north koreans are misbehaving at the moment is because they perceive the democracies to be weak and will not push back, if you look at the ukraine war, at the moment, we've self deterred in many ways in terms of how we're supporting ukraine, simply because vladimir putin says , oh, i'll get nasty, putin says, oh, i'll get nasty, i really will, i really will, you know ? and our politicians you know? and our politicians say, oh yeah, we believe you. well, i'm afraid to say when you're dealing with dictators , you're dealing with dictators, they only respect strength and they only respect strength and they only respect credible capability. and i'm afraid if we go through this endless hand—wringing instead of actually putting real capability into the front line, we're going to see more and more pressure from these dictatorships, and putting the squeeze on us around the world. >> real capability look like chris. >> well, to tell you the truth , >> well, to tell you the truth, i mean, i was the desk level

author of the 1998 defence review . review. >> and we said, look, you've got to establish the context in which you want your armed forces to operate. and one of the best lessons i ever had, i sat next to margaret thatcher at a post falklands, dinner, and i thought , what on earth am i going to say to her? and i said, what did you learn from this war? and she said, the one thing i learned from this war is i have to give my military people my political outcomes, not my military ones, my political outcomes. and that's what the armed forces needin that's what the armed forces need in order to conduct a decent review. what does this government or any government wish to be able to do in the world with its armed forces, what does that look like in terms of outcomes? then you match the capabilities to it, and i'm afraid to say, if you just give somebody £75 billion and say, go shopping at amazon and say, go shopping at amazon and get capability, you're going to end up the wrong capability . to end up the wrong capability. >> chris, i just wanted to get your thoughts on applications to

the army, because we heard in a presser this week, didn't we, from the prime minister saying the applications are now well up from january. why do you think thatis? from january. why do you think that is? do you think it is because we are now in this much more dangerous world that people are aware they're wanting to join the army in to order defend this country, well, ellie, i think part of it is that you've seen the navy in particular and also the raf actually doing what they're trained to do , in the they're trained to do, in the raf's case, obviously take out the houthis , royal navy is the houthis, royal navy is helping protect shipping in the red sea there was a huge boost after the falklands war to our recruiting , because the armed recruiting, because the armed forces were seen to be doing what they're supposed to be doing, i'm afraid to say that the long period that we had in afghanistan and iraq, rather sort of dented people's faith in it as a career. what we've got to do is go back to doing what this country does really well, and that's produce very good trained man. and woman power, to actually do , the country. well, actually do, the country. well, iused

actually do, the country. well, i used to say to my, my people when i commanded ships and units, i used to say, look , units, i used to say, look, you're playing at international level, for your country. just like footballers or rugby players are. you've got to be that good. and once you start telling young people they are good, and the fact is they're in an elite organisation, they take pride. people want to join that organisation and they don't want to do well for their country. >> okay . chris parry, really >> okay. chris parry, really good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed. it's fascinating to hear that perspective from him, actually. and interesting what margaret thatcher said to him , actually. thatcher said to him, actually. and you do wonder whether people will, will pay any attention to that. i don't know if anyone's listening, but the idea that you say, this is what we want to achieve politically and let the army sort it out, or the armed forces sort it out , no really, forces sort it out, no really, really good points from him. >> and also interesting on recruitment that that, with what we're seeing with the houthis in the red sea, people are actually more attracted to a career .

more attracted to a career. well, because the raf, because they can see real action taking place. >> well, people in the armed forces do want action. they don't want to just train and then never do anything, do they? so they do want they do want to see that action, which i know is a bit counterintuitive in a way. in a way . but anyway, keep your in a way. but anyway, keep your thoughts coming through on that one. i'd love to hear from you. we've been talking about, rail nationalisation, the labour party's plan. let's hear from the shadow transport secretary who's talking there, here at train line. >> the last few years have certainly been interesting ones for transport in this country. from hs2 chaos to our transport secretary parroting bizarre 15 minute conspiracy theories at last year's tory party conference, you could call the government's transport agenda many things, and i have called it many things. many things, and i have called it many things . but one thing it it many things. but one thing it is not is boring and we are all here today because we are passionate about transport and the people it serves and all too

often people are lost when we discuss transport policy. but there is a reason that train line is the uk and europe's number one most downloaded rail travel app, because you make it easier for millions of passengers to buy tickets to use the railway and to find the best value fares. train line success is driven by its relentless focus on passengers . it listens focus on passengers. it listens to the people who use the railways and it focuses on improving their experience. it is these lessons and those from right across the best of the private and public sector, that we draw on in setting out labours plans today. now, britain was, of course, the country that invented the railways and brought them to the world. next year we will mark 200 years since the world's first passenger railway ran from stockton to darlington . the stockton to darlington. the innovation which followed transformed britain , transformed britain, supercharged our industrial revolution and made travelling the country a possibility for millions. we deserve to be proud

of that legacy, but under the conservatives, our railways have become a symbol of national decline, of a country that no longer works and a government with no plan to fix it. cancellations are at record highs, fares have risen almost twice as fast as wages since 2010, and strikes are costing us £25 million a day. today's broken model simply doesn't work . decisions which should be straightforward, like timetable changes or new ticket types or fares, can take years to happen. and when things go wrong, like delays , armies of lawyers argue delays, armies of lawyers argue over whose fault it is and who pays for the mistake, instead of how to fix it. huge sums continue to be wasted on management fees and shareholder dividends, and despite 30 years of privatisation, shockingly it is the taxpayer who still props up our failing railways to the

tune of billions of pounds every year. tune of billions of pounds every year . that is tune of billions of pounds every year. that is why today i am setting out labour's plan to fix britain's railways. now, you may not know this, but my boss is keen on something he likes to call mission driven government. theidea call mission driven government. the idea at the heart of this is that for government to succeed in making a difference and in making things better, it has to be focused it has to set itself objectives and it has to be transparent and accountable. the alternative, as we have seen for much of the last 14 years, is drift, dither and dysfunction. our railways underpin all of the five missions that keir starmer has set for incoming labour government. they are vital to achieving the growth that we need and to unlocking opportunity for all. they must drive forward our ambitions on green energy and the net zero transition, and we cannot keep people safe unless they feel safe to travel on public transport. our railways are critical to making our country a

better, wealthier and happier place . we can only achieve our place. we can only achieve our five national missions if we unlock the trapped potential of our railways to boost growth and opportunity, and to connect all of us with each other, with work and with leisure . but i believe and with leisure. but i believe that mission driven government also gives us a framework for understanding how to go about driving change within the railway itself. under the tories, we've seen what consequences purposeless drift can have cost chaos and changes of direction, cancelled upgrades and half baked plans. the conservative party has achieved the worst of all worlds for our railways, partially privatised, overly centralised, expensive but unreliable, confusing in the extreme and shamefully unaccountable. and it is passengers who always pay the price, stranded at a station in the middle of the night when their train is cancelled, crammed into overcrowded and unpleasant trains with broken

toilets and dirty carriages, unable to work as they travel because there's no wi—fi connection and they pay through the nose to prop up this failing system with huge amounts wasted every year through inefficiencies and fragmentation . unlike most privatisations, that of the railways has never become publicly accepted because its failings have remained all too obvious. the fragmentation of the network has made it more confusing for passengers and more difficult and expensive to perform. the essentially collaborative task of running trains on time. those aren't my words. they're the words of grant shapps. words. they're the words of grant shapps . remember him? grant shapps. remember him? we've already had keith williams, the government's independent reviewer of rail , independent reviewer of rail, endorsing our plans today, so i wouldn't rule out grant shapps or perhaps one of his aliases endorsing us by tea time. now, when keir asked me to take on this role and to plan for how we will fix britain's railways, i set myself an exam question, not how do i achieve an ideological

outcome , but how do i place outcome, but how do i place passengers back at the heart of how our railways are run? that is my mission and it is the delivery of that mission. a railway network that is relentlessly focused on the passenger interest that underpins the policies i am launching today. they amount to the biggest reform of our railways for a generation . railways for a generation. labour will sweep away the broken model and bring private operators into public ownership, as their contracts expire. we will establish great british railways , a single directing railways, a single directing mind to control our railways in the passenger interest. yes, we're keeping the name. i'm afraid i was overruled on calling it rail britannia . and calling it rail britannia. and if i am secretary of state, i won't be running the railways day to day. but i will act as the passenger in chief, setting the passenger in chief, setting the strategy and objectives for great british railways and holding it to account on behalf of passengers everywhere. but unlike current ministers, i will

trust the experts. experts who don't just come from the rail sector because we all know it can sometimes be a little inward looking. but external experts in providing exceptional customer service, we will deliver simplified fares and ticketing, a best fare guarantee across the network has, as trainline has already managed to achieve , and already managed to achieve, and we will roll out the kinds of innovations that you have trialled here. digital season tickets and automatic delay repay so that they are available to all passengers and we will create a tough new passenger watchdog that will hold great british railways to account on behalf of the passenger, both on performance and on the quality of the service they provide. because we believe that customer experience matters and it matters to growing our railways. now i know what some are going to say. same old labour always calling for public ownership. but the truth of the matter is that neither okay, louise hague,

they're the shadow transport secretary >> fascinating. i mean, we can't take it all, sadly, but we'll bnng take it all, sadly, but we'll bring you full analysis later on as to what she's said, simplified fares in all of this automatic delay repay all new passenger watchdog to hold the new company to account. is that going to be enough to satisfy you?ifs going to be enough to satisfy you? it's an interesting proposal , you? it's an interesting proposal, got to you? it's an interesting proposal , got to say you? it's an interesting proposal, got to say that, and waiting for those franchises to run out over a period of five years or so, so they don't have to buy them out. so a cheaper opfion to buy them out. so a cheaper option to let us know what you think. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> let us know what you think. gbnews.com/yoursay. now a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales. >> yes, amman valley school was put into lockdown just after 11:00. three people had been injured . injured. >> well, joining us now from the scene is gb news reporterjack carson morning to you, jack . carson morning to you, jack. >> yeah. good morning. this school remains closed today. of course, this community comes to

start and deal. really with the shock, of course, of that horrific incident yesterday. two teachers and one teenager stabbed a teenage girl still in police custody, arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. now, two of the teachers involved in this incident have been named as well. drama and welsh teacher fiona elias, as well as liz hopkin, who is a teacher that works with special educational needs students . now, educational needs students. now, according to colleagues and reports, they are lucky to be alive. we know there was a massive emergency response here yesterday, including two air ambulances to the scene. the school went into lockdown with code red and lockdown announced over the tannoy. some students tried to climb the fences to escape , others, of course escape, others, of course calling their parents screaming down the phone that somebody had been stabbed. so that's shock. and distress is something that the police have noted. they're working with the community, and the investigation here at the school does continue into this incident . incident. >> okay. jack carson, thank you very much indeed .

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!i >> 1 >> welcome ! >> welcome back i >> welcome back to ! >> welcome back to breakfast. loads of you getting in touch on labour's plan about renationalising the railway, les says do what you want with the railways. as long as the people that use them pay for them. i don't see why i should subsidise the travelling costs of commuters into london and elsewhere, who earn much more money than the rest of us. nobody helps with the running costs of my car , car and lots of costs of my car, car and lots of thumbs up to that comment.

actually so i'd say true, john says, who do we who do we choose to be shafted by the unions or the shareholders? one thing is for sure, it won't be the general public who benefit from any changes. well, i mean, i don't know. i mean, what's interesting is that the shadow transport secretary was saying it's all got to be all about the passengers. yeah she was calling herself. she would be the passenger in chief. >> passenger in chief. >> passenger in chief. >> so i mean, the claiming that they're going to make it work, but who do you believe on that one? >> and wendy pye—smith asked the question, where does louise hague think labour went wrong in the past ? she needs to address the past? she needs to address this first before she looks at anything else . and that has been anything else. and that has been said, hasn't it? lessons need to be learned from the last time. yeah, well, they didn't go particularly well, did it, loads of people. oh, here you go. bill says.i of people. oh, here you go. bill says. i just heard stephen say you can do venice in an afternoon. not true. it's a hidden gem down every alleyway.

>> oh, well, there you go. >> oh, well, there you go. >> that's. >> that's. >> you told me. well, fair enough. >> we'll be back tomorrow from a.m. >> we'll see you then . >> we'll see you then. >> we'll see you then. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather update . latest gb news weather update. it will be a cloudier day today for most of us with a risk of showers that could fall as snow over the high ground as it's another fairly cold day today, risk will definitely be just restricted to parts of scotland, perhaps the pennines on the very highest ground, but for many of us there's a greater risk of showers, particularly as we head through the afternoon . across through the afternoon. across eastern areas, they could turn heavy for a time as well, and there's going to be a good deal more cloud around throughout this afternoon. still some sunny spells here and there, but sunshine is definitely going to be a lot more limited than it has been earlier on this week, so temperatures aren't going to quite climb as high, just highs of around 14 degrees in the very best of the sunshine. but for many of us below average for the

time of year now , that rain time of year now, that rain should start to clear away. the cloud should clear as well. throughout this evening. so another clear and dry night for most of us that will allow temperatures to fall away. so it will likely be another cold start to friday. you can see a patchy frost developing for many inland areas by tomorrow morning, but there could also be some mist and fog around very first thing, but it will be a bright start to the day, so any frost should melt away very quickly and there will be a good deal amount of sunshine, particularly through the morning as you head towards the afternoon, skies will get a little bit cloudier with that cloud bubbling up and a few showers breaking out here and there, but the showers are going to be far fewer than on thursday. there won't be quite as heavy as well in the south, though. skies will turn cloudier by the end of the day, with a risk of some showery, potentially heavy outbreaks of rain. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on