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♪ good morning. i'm jane pauley. this is "sunday morning." no one likes to be lazy, except for only people you will meet this morning who seem to find comfort in lazing away on a balmy spring afternoon. could they be on to something? something hard-working souls everywhere might actually learn from? susan spencer takes a closer look at taking it easy. >> reporter: in a country where hard work gets all the glory, author he autonomous celeste headlee says we would all benefit from being lazier. you wouldn't be insulted if someone said you are slacking off in. >> i am a recovering workaholic.

i would proudly wear that badge. >> reporter: the hidden virtues of laziness coming up on "sunday morning." she has been making movies for decades and now she is indulging her other passion. with tracy smith, we take note of kate hudson's latest career move. ♪ you and i will be forever ♪ >> reporter: who knew she could sing, too? well, she knew. >> i guess i wasn't ready for it until now. >> reporter: why do you think now you're ready for it? >> because i don't care anymore about what people think probably. >> reporter: kate hudson on stage and on fire ahead on "sunday morning." hard to believe it's been nearly two decades since dan rather left the anchor chair at the "cbs evening news."

our lee cowan caught up with him for a look back. >> reporter: do you have one of your good dan-isms that sums up your career? >> i will say as soon as this interview ends, i'm out of here faster than you can slap a tick. >> reporter: there you go. dan rather, a name once synonymous with cbs news, hasn't appeared on this network since the scandal that forced his departure almost 20 years ago. courage. what was that final evening news broadcast like when you signed off for the last time? his oanswer on that and a lot more later on "sunday morning." also on this final weekend of april, david pogue looks at the turbulent week that was on the nation's college campuses. alina cho tours an exhibit on display in buffalo, the works of stanley whitney. anthony mason visits fort sumpter where the first shots of

the civil war were fired with best-selling author erik larson. plus new meaning to the expression jailbirds. jim axlerod on the 150th anniversary of the kentucky derby. and more. it's sunday morning, april 28th, 2024, and we'll be right back. ♪ ♪

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from an early age we're taught the benefits of hard work. what you don't hear much about is the real value of doing nothing. with susan spencer, let's all take it easy. >> reporter: for most of her working life, celeste headlee never made any time for any time off. >> i used to say i can outwork anybody. that used to be my calling card. >> reporter: a single mother, at one point she was balancing childcare with seven different jobs. >> i am a professional opera singer. i sang for the michigan opera theater, did a lot of writing jobs, wrote for "the detroit news," i was filing freelance pieces for national public radio. >> reporter: in 2017, at age 47, she hit a wall. >> i was irritable all the time. i was tired all the time. i started getting sick and i am a very healthy -- i mean, i

don't generally get sick. obviously, i was overworked. and that was a problem that had to be solved. >> reporter: first step, she quit her full-time job. second, equally drastic move, she took a two-week cross-country train ride. much of it without wifi. just o see what would happen. >> for the first three or four days, was panic. you know when you leave the house and you realize you don't have your cellphone on you and you are like? but eventually, it just started to feel okay. >> reporter: by the time she got home, she had an epiphany. >> leisure time is necessary for our own health and well being. >> reporter: the title of headlee's book says it all. she argues social pressures

doing nothing hard to do. we might be accused of dreaded sin of laziness. >> somebody is lazy, they are not earning their place in society, they are a bum. >> reporter: you think lazy is bad word? >> yes. >> it's gets a bum rap from religion, capitalism, it gets a bum rap because we are trying to be productive in our life. >> reporter: and product activity is the real priority in america says professor lonnie golden who teaches economics at penn state abington. >> the payoffs in the u.s. are making yourself available for a promotion or building your own business from scratch. so there is many good rewards from that. >> reporter: but there is no reward for being lazy? >> there is no reward for being lazy, fair to say. when you are at your high school reunion, you don't want to be saying i have been doing nothing. >> reporter: according to a

recent survey, americans value hard work over just about everything else, including self-fulfillment, marriage, patriotism, religion, and tolerance for others. even retirees have a hard time doing nothing. >> it gets to be what's called the conspicuous busyness, hey, look how busy i am, and how much time i am spending sol tearing. it should be okay to say i retired and i can be lazy when i feel like being lazy. >> reporter: but it's not. >> because we are in this cult, this anti-lazy cult, we have all been basically brainwashed to believe that we have to work hard or we're not of value. >> reporter: which may explain why employers seem to love employees who say they can multitask. really? what could be less lazy?

>> we hear this all the time. businesses ask candidates, are you good at multitasking? they want to hear, yes. what they should want to hear is, no. >> it's understandable. >> reporter: professor earl k. miller, a neuroscience 'tis at m.i.t.'s picower institute for learning and memory, has sobering news for a culture obsessed with juggling jobs. >> our brains are very one track. we can hold only one or two thoughts in mind at a time. that is it. we are very single-minded. >> reporter: you mean it is physically impossible to multitask? >> i mean it is physically impossible to multitask. >> reporter: our poor brains when struggling to multitask instead simply slow down and make mistakes. a far better plan, says professor miller, is to try doing no tasks at all. >> a lot of times some of your best thoughts come to you when your conscious mind is out of the way, you allow the

unconscious thoughts to bubble up. sometimes it's good to be lazy to not -- not lazy, but tune out a bit and let the thoughts bubble up. >> reporter: that advice is a way of life at the 93-year-old institute for advanced study, an academic research center in princeton, new jersey, where doing nothing does not a bad name says director david nirenberg. what is typical day? >> there isn't a typical day. you can do whatever you want. the day is yours. >> reporter: when not gathering for tea each day, scholars may take a walk in the woods, sit by the pond or even nap. >> we all need space for non-intentional activity, non-intentional thought, contemplation. that's why weekends insist. so many ever our faith traditions introduced days of

rest. >> reporter: we think of that as being lazy. >> i think it's a crucial part of being human. >> reporter: not to imply that anyone is shslacking off. it's been an intellectual home to albert einstein, j. robert oppenheimer, and 35 nobel laureates. some of the most productive and renowned people in history worked maybe four hours a die. charles dickens, charles darwin. i mean, these are people who had a focus time of four hours and the rest of the time what were they doing? dining? sitting in the garden. hanging out with friends >> reporter: they were being lazy. >> yeah. to our 21st century eyes, yeah, they were being lazy. to them, they were living their life. >> my friends see christopher morel. >> reporter: and celeste headlee wants all of us to start living our lives, too. >> so if you had one message about laziness, what would it be? >> be most successful animals on

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mass arrests of students and outsiders. locked campus gates. the firestorm began on april 17th when a congressional committee grilled columbia university president minouche shafik about antisemitism at student protests against the war in gaza. >> antisemitism has no place on our campus and i am personally committed to doing everything i can to confront it directly. >> reporter: she promised to crack coudown on the protesters and she did. >> for what reason? i'm just stepping on the sidewalk. >> reporter: it enraged students on other campuses nationwide. for many college administrators, it's a no-win situation. >> it's an existential threat to the fabric of the university's life. >> reporter: dan rather a public affairs officer at the university of california-berkeley where the protests have been peaceable. >> they are supposed to be areas for free speech.

we have an unwaiver and absolute commitment to free speech. the university like all public institutions is allowed to have time, place and manner rules. the right to free expression is not absolute. you can't interfere or disrupt the operations of the university. >> reporter: and that's the problem. many colleges say that the protests violate those time and place rules and make other students feel unsafe. including skyler, a senior at george washington university in washington, d.c.. >> i was here a little bit earlier with a few of my friends holding the israeli flag that i am now wearing. i got spit at, got middle fingers from a few people. >> we took over a campus administration building. we threw the deans out of the building i are self-described radical at harvard in the '80s, michael kazin protested the vietnam war. today he teaches the history of social movements at georgetown university in washington. do you look back fondly on your

protest days? >> we felt we were changing history. some ways we were. and that's a thrill. one of the reasons i became an historian, because i was involved in these moments. >> reporter: there are anyways that current conflict is different from the protesters ones? >> most important for vietnam is that american soldiers are not fighting. american planes are not bombing gaza. >> reporter: another difference, this time the students aren't unified against a common enemy. >> the middle east is unique in that it divides the campus community. it sets student against student, faculty member against faculty member, and then all of that is fueled in a way in every in was in the past. by social media. >> reporter: so, what exactly do these protesters want? >> our goal for is i want to stay here until the university divests. >> we need divestment. >> reporter: a college's

endowment is tax exempt fund to pay for professor ships or scholarships. every college investments it, but the protesters want these schools to sell off the stocks in companies that benefit from the war, like weapons makers, or do business with israel. but for a big school, that could be hard to do. the modern endowment is invested in huge portfolio funds that don't offer control over individual stocks. do these students think that divestment will actually make a difference in anything, and will it? >> no, probably not. i don't know what percentage goes to a company that does business with israel. it probably isn't much. it's a way to make demands on people they might have some influence over. college administrators. they are not changing the course of the war. but they are also, in effect, asking a question of college administrations. do you see me? do you hear me?

do you care about me? >> reporter: some tactics definitely don't say we care about you. >> one thing we learned in the '60s is that the police arresting students is almost always a bad idea, unless they are violent. >> reporter: and that's not the only pattern kazin observed. >> april is the month for protests. it was back in 1969. that was true in 1986. >> what do we want! >> the anti-apartheid prefts at their height. it's before final exams. the weather is nice most parts of country. >> reporter: other ways, couldn't be worse timing because graduation is only weeks away. the university of southern california has already canceled its main commencement ceremony and other schools may follow suit. and remember this year's graduating seniors already lost their high school graduation

ceremonies in 2020 to covid. for demonstrators like george washington jr., the protests take priority. >> so missing two graduations has to be a really sad prospect, and i know that's a tricky position. it's not as tricky as being bombed. so i feel like this is more important. >> reporter: do the protests sometimes work? >> it can work in getting attention and effectuating a certain degree of change. how much, debatable. but that doesn't make it less important to those engaged in it. >> reporter: georgetown sophomore and protest organizers selina al-shihabi is more confident. >> if you look at history, it's always the student movement. it always starts with the new generation of waking up and saying, we will no longer tlerate this and we are going to create a better tomorrow for our children to live in. and that's what we're seeing right now.

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on display this morning a long overdue work at an unsung artist. alina cho visits a show of paintings by stanley whitney. >> reporter: you can be certain that a morning at stanley whitney's studio will involve three things. an abundance of color, a familiar miles davis tune, and a

deliberately ferocious brushstroke. for you that first mark is the top left corner? >> yeah, it is still. >> reporter: why? why there? >> it feels good to me. you don't worry why. why doesn't exist. it just is. >> reporter: the works that made whitney famous are these colorful canvasses. four horizontal rows of varying hues. don't call it a grid, or worse, a form a. describe it to me. >> it's color. >> reporter: but the structure? >> color. it's about rhythm. it's about space. people can think clear or feel clearer. >> reporter: whitney grew up in a small black community outside philadelphia. from a young age it was clear he was interested in art. >> my first demonstration in

first grade, realizing i couldn't draw anymore. i had to start reading. >> reporter: going to art school spared him from the vietnam war draft. he moved to new york in 1968. early on, whitney focused squarely on making art and little else. >> the black panthers were asking what you are doing for the race. >> reporter: they wanted you to join the struggle? >> yeah, right, and i wanted to paint. >> reporter: so he painted, and painted, yet struggled to find an audience. you had a tough time getting a break. >> well, it was race. it was really race. >> reporter: fed up, the early 1990s he and his wife, painter marina adams, moved to rome. inspired by the geometry of the colosseum and the pyramids in egypt, the abstract artist had a breakthrough. the stacking of forms, very basic things we think about

ancient monuments and the stacking. there is no space between the massive rocks. those massive blocks of the pyramids. cathleen chafee is the curator of stanley whitney's first major retrospective at buffalo's akg art museum. >> and he sort of felt this freedom lacking at that. he didn't need to find landscape, need to have air. he could allow his colored forms to support each other. >> reporter: she called whitney one of america's greatest living painters. >> he is 78 years old. he has been painting for more than 50 years. why is this his first major retrospective? >> i think attention and scholarship on artists of color is still something that's come later than it should have come. for an artist like stanley, i think that's definitely a case. >> i thought this painting what was a failure. i put it in storage. i never showed it. >> reporter: many of these works have never been shown in public.

what do you say to the viewer who might look at these paintings and say, they all look the same to me? >> i would ask them if the colors remind them of anything. a yellow may remind you of a blouse your mother had. it's a way in and spend time with them and it takes you out of your everyday life and a chance to occupy a different kind of space. >> reporter: a look outside the box that stanley whitney hopes sparks something inside, too. what do you hope people feel when they look at your work? >> better. much better. much better.

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♪ the headlights on the highway ♪ ♪ >> you are home. it's "sunday morning" on cbs and here again is jane pauley. that's kate hudson and her breakout role as penny lane in "almost famous" nearly 25 years ago. all these years later, she is assuming a new role, and tracy smith invites us to take note. ♪ >> reporter: the music coming from a north hollywood studio might not be familiar. at least not yet. but you have definitely heard that voice. ♪ you and i will be foreer ♪ ♪ you will on your own down the streets that you call home ♪ >> reporter: kate hudson is fine-tuning her songs. that's right. her songs.

♪ it was glorious ♪ >> reporter: she has written every word on a new album, "glorious," and it's a role she says she was born to play. how long have you been writing songs? >> really poorly my whole life. i guess i wasn't ready for it until now. >> reporter: why do you think now you're ready for it? >> because i just don't care anymore about what people think probably. it was never right, whether it was my own stuff or feeling afraid to mess up my movie career or, you know, just never felt right. >> reporter: until now? >> until now. i'm just doing it. >> reporter: for kate hudson, just doing it meant months in the studio. ♪ >> reporter: getting just the right sound. she made her stage debut this year at a few small iish

international space station events. she didn't sound like anov ips. maybe because she's always been on stage, or very close to it. >> we are not groupies. >> reporter: her first really big role was as the legendary penny lane in cameron crowe's "almost famous." >> groupies sleep with rock stars because they want to meet someone famous. >> reporter: how fitting that your breakout role was in this movie that's essentially a love letter to rock and roll? >> kind of makes sense. probably a reason why cameron hired me. yeah. i mean, it does make sense. >> reporter: sure, she could act. she also the pipes. ♪ come on babe, let's piaint th

town ♪ ♪ and all that jazz ♪ >> reporter: as the daughter of bill hudson of the '70s band the hudson brothers. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: you might say that music is in her blood. >> those hudson brothers are crazy talented musicians. wonderful songwriters. my dad's a great songwriter. >> reporter: bill hudson and wife goldie hawn split when kate was a toddler, so she grew up with her among's long-time partner kurt russell and has been estranged from her father for some time. what's your relationship with him now? >> i don't really have one. but it's, like, you know, it's warming up. there is warming up of this all happening. but it will be whatever it will be. you know? i have no expectation of that with my father. it's, like, i just want him to be happy.

♪ call me crazy ♪ ♪ >> reporter: and what makes her happy is singing on stage, on camera, or both. >> any musical you have seen in the last few years, i have auditioned for it. >> reporter: like? >> oh, one of my favorite auditions of all time was moulin rouge with baz luhrmann. we had so much fun. and at the time it was written for -- i was like 19 at the time. so it was actually written for a young girl. ♪ ♪ >> and nicole ended up doing it. she wanted to do it. i was like, oh, my chances are gone. but, yeah, i mean, all of them, i mean, a ton, you know. that's what we do. we audition. >> reporter: and between auditions, life happened.

relationships, children, and the kinds of things that inspire songs. ♪ it was you and me forever ♪ >> reporter: sure, she writes about love and lust, but maybe not surprisingly the one song that truly rips her heart out is about ryder, her son with her former husband black crow's front man chris robinson. ♪ he was everything to me ♪ ♪ soon it would be three ♪ ♪ and you came and changed my life ♪ >> it's the strongest love i ever had. so when you have your first child, i was so young, and when i was writing this album, which was two years ago now, ryder was leaving for college. so here i was writing this album and my son -- how old are yours?

>> reporter: they are 16. >> get ready. get ready. but i was, like, oh, mygod, my whole adult life i have had this incredible partner, and now i have to say goodbye. so that's really, like, all of the things i was thinking about in the song. you and i will be forever. you know, like, go, and just thrive and take everything on, you know. how fun. and i'm right here. >> reporter: the album's out next month and she is definitely going on tour. in her words, she can't wait to get back on the bus. what's the feeling inside when you are doing this? >> it just feels like normal. they say when you're ready to solo for the first time, you should be kicking the instructor out of the plane. like, get out of here. i'm ready. that's kind of what i feel like right now. i feel like i am ready to do this. i don't have the fear.

i just have excitement. it's wild. >> reporter: at 45, she is very much involved in acting projects. for kate hudson following one dream doesn't mean giving up on another. did you ever have anyone say to you, you can't do music? >> there was someone who said to me, and it kind of jarred me a little, it was when i was in my early 30s, and they basically said, it's done. it's passed. you can't -- you're too old. and, you know, for me it wasn't just about being a performer. it was about wanting to write music. so kind of resonated for a bit. then i was, like, nah. [ bleep ] you. no. no one tells me what to do. ♪ ♪ i guess you're gonna find out ♪ ♪ i'm gonna find out ♪ type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ ♪

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a new erik larson book exam extra examines the lead up to the civil war. anthony mason reads the fine print. >> reporter: the ferry ride to the middle of charleston harbor be a journey back in time. >> the first shot of the american civil war. it would have been fired from there. >> reporter: in 1860, fort sumpter, the federal fortress guarding charleston, became a flashpoint in the tensions between north and south. >> south carolina saw it as an affront to their sense of honor. it was a symbol of everything that they felt they were rebelling against. >> reporter: it's a ride author erik larson took to write his new book, "the demon of unrest" about the events leading up to the bombardment.

you came out here for your research? >> oh, yeah, very much. >> reporter: now a national park, sumpter's been altered over the years. this was a formidable fort in its time? >> much more so than now. it was 50 feet tall. >> reporter: but history can still come alive here. it took seven men to fire one of these? >> yes. the how they most have sounded, especially in an enclosed space like this. >> reporter: sounds like it was impenetrable in some ways? >> fully manned, the heavy artillery, it would be impenetrable. it was defined to defend against sea-borne attack. would be the target of fellow americans. >> reporter: larson calls it the single most consequential day in american history. the author of bestsellers like

the devil in the white city and the splendid and the vul, he became fascinated with the build-up at conflict. what was the mood in 1860? >> in charleston it was ready for rebel run yichlt abraham lincoln had just been elected president of a deeply divided nation. he had campaigned to limit slavery, not to abolish it. why did the south dread lincoln so much? >> the south worked itself up into a condition where they believed that lincoln represented the apocalypse for southern culture. they believed no matter what he said, that he was an abolitionist at heart. >> reporter: soon after lincoln's election, south carolina became the first state to secede from the union. charleston, a center of the slave trade, had 32 slave brokerages. ryan's slave mart was the largest. >> it had a showroom, the slaves

would get up on a platform and walk back and forth while the potential buyers were judging them. >> reporter: lincoln had to sneak into the nation's capital in disguise for his inauguration. >> the south was so hostile to lincoln that there were routine death threats. >> reporter: in terms of the division in society, it's eerily similar to where we are now at times. >> this period that i'm writing out, the two moments of greatest national dread the count of the electoral vote and the inauguration. doesn't that sound familiar? >> reporter: by the time lincoln took the vote of office, six more states had seceded. to the south, sumpter was a standing menace. the fort and its 75 men were commanded by major robert anderson, a kentuckian by birth, taught artillery tactics at west point. confederate general p.g.t. beauregard was put in charge of

charleston's defenses. >> beauregard had been at west point pupil of anderson's. and they were actually friends. >> reporter: he built confederate batteries all around the harbor. >> these were so close, on still nights men could hear the heavy equipment as the confederates were establishing their batteries to kill them. >> reporter: how badly outnumbered was anderson? >>oh, incredibly. 25 to 1. >> reporter: but surrendering sumpter, lincoln wrote, would be our national destruction consummated. for three months, the tense standoff persisted. >> major anderson was frustrated with the communication from washington? >> very. he was left here to determine the fate of america. >> reporter: at 4:30 a.m. on april 12th, 1861, confederate guns opened fire. over two days, more than 3,300 shells and balls would rain across the harbor.

how badly did they damage the fort. >> in the course of the attack, they never breached the walls. >> reporter: fire ultimately forced major anderson so surrender. remarkably, no one died in the bombardment. but 750,000 americans would be killed before the civil war ended in 1865. ♪ four years to the day after sumpter fell, anderson, by then a retired general, returned to raise the american flag over the fort. >> the north greeted him with open arms. he was an absolute hero. >> reporter: that night, in washington, president lincoln was assassinated. >> i need everyone to line up right here.

>> reporter: visitors to the fort today are invited to help raise the flag every morning. >> even though this feels like ancient history, the stuff that started here continues to impact and inform our country today. >> reporter: a reminder of the fragility of a union and the price paid to restore it.

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it was 24 years ago, just before christmas, and for gene the case of that baby boy doe swatled in cardboard and blankets didn't end after the child got to the hospital. >> i went back with a teddy bear. just a symbol, let everyone that walked past know that he was cared about. >> reporter: and you never forgot? >> nope. none of it. >> reporter: for more than two decades, he wondered what became of this boy. unfortunately, records were sealed, so there was no way to find out. until a few weeks ago, when gene got phone call from a fellow officer. guy says, remember that case, the baby left in the car bdboar box? you are not going to believe this. >> what? he says, he is sitting next to me. i said, he is what? he said, yeah, he is my rookie.

>> reporter: meet officer mathew heg'-e-dus-stewart. after his rescue, he was placed for adoption. he always knew he had been left in a box, but only connected the dots to gene after joining the department. today he wears the same uniform gene did and patrols the exact same neighborhood. >> full circle moment. that hit home. i can only imagine from his point of view. >> reporter: what it means? >> yeah. >> reporter: he really can't imagine. because what to matt may feel like coincidence to gene feels divined. their reunion. this new friendship. it's all happening just a few months after gene's only son, nick, died unexpectedly at the age of 36. >> so the timing couldn't have been any better to help fill a void that i have had to deal with. >> reporter: 24 years ago, between was called there to be

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time for a look back. lee cowan traveled to texas for a conversation with dan rather. >> to each of you, courage. >> reporter: it's been almost 20 years. >> the "cbs evening news," dan rather reporting. >> reporter: since dan rather signed off from the anchor desk here at cbs news. on the so-called big three tv anchor men back in the day, watched by some 50 million people a night, rather was there the longest. almost a quarter century. >> hitting full force. >> the operative word for the war against terror in afghanistan is more. >> reporter: when he blinked, they did, too. in his 44 years with cbs, he held every post a network reporter could. bureau chief, war correspondent -- >> ten years ago, there were no segregationist candidates for places in british parliament.

>> reporter: foreign correspondent, white house correspondent. >> are you running for something? >> no, sir, mr. president. are you? >> reporter: but in 2006, a little more than a year after he stepped down from the anchor desk, dan rather left cbs itself. fords. >> dan rather was one of the great reporters of his time. good luck, dan, all the best. >> dan rather, cbs news, became part of my name. a part of my identity. >> reporter: and you have interviewed how many presidents? >> i'd have to count. every one since truman. >> reporter: this is the first time he has appeared on this network since. >> without an explanation, i miss cbs. i missed it since the day i left there. >> reporter: even at 92, how and why he left still stings. >> in the heart of every reporter worthy of a name, there

is a message that news, real news, is what somebody somewhere, particularly somebody in power, doesn't want you to know. that's news. >> reporter: and that's what got him into trouble. >> nbc news tonight, the black eye at cbs news, today cbs news anchor dan rather and the news division -- >> reporter: in 2004, rather filed a report for "60 minutes" that questioned george w. bush's service record in the texas air national guard. >> tonight we have new documents and new information on the president's military service -- >> reporter: the documents which rather and his producer based their reporting could not be later authenticated. >> it was a mistake. cbs news deeply regrets it. also, i want to say personally and directly, i'm sorry. >> reporter: was that the lowest part for you, do you think? >> of course. i gave cbs news everything i had. they had smarter, better, more talented people, but they didn't hve anybody who worked any harder than i did.

>> lee cowan tells us one firehouse within sight of ground zero has had its heart cut out. >> reporter: i had only been at cbs a few years by then, during which dan rather kindly and unexpectedly took me under his wing and made me feel welcome. you told me once it's not the question, but it's the follow-up. that's -- >> yes. >> reporter: that's more important? unlts i hope you will be following up today. >> reporter: minus the suspenders and his cigars, rather remains just as i remember him. an intent luxuries -- >> i'll ring you back in ten, thanks. >> reporter: thoughtful, well read skeptic who wants nothing more than to wear out his shoe leather chasing the next headline. what immediate you want to be a reporter? >> i have never known the answer to that question. all i know is that it's the only thing i ever wanted to be, was a reporter. and i get up every morning, soon as my feet hit the ground, i say, where's the story?

>> reporter: you still do that? >> i to. >> reporter: doesn't matter how big or small the audience is? >> no. >> reporter: after cbs, rather continued to report from all over the world for several news broadcasts of his own. >> we come to you from the line between israel and the occupied west bank. >> reporter: he wrote books -- >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> that's why i wanted to talk to. >> reporter: a sought after voice on presidential politics and found a younger audience on social media. >> you either get engaged on new terms or you're out of the game. i want to stay in the game. >> reporter: how would you rate where we are today in journalism? >> let the record show that i paused. the people who are practicing journalism today are so much better than those of us who came up at another time. they are better educated. have more knowledge about the world. they want to do the right thing. they are doing the best they can. >> take your hands off of me.

unless you intend to arrest me -- >> reporter: in his time he knew his best wasn't trying to be his predecessor, walter cronkite. he tried to be the best dan rather he could be, which came with price tags. some professional. many of them personal. >> we had the assassination on friday. the interrogation of the assassin on saturday. >> reporter: 1963, while the nation mourned the assassination o john f. kennedy in dallas, rather didn't have that luxury. >> hyou didn't have time to grieve? >> i didn't take time. said, it's my professional responsibility. i can remember calling my wife, who was in houston at the time of the assassination. she cautioned me, sooner or later you have to make room for your own emotions. >> aisle they are in grave error. if they accept integration.

>> reporter: he led the coverage of the civil rights movement. those were the days he thought might define him as a reporter. but then game vietnam. >> no soldier worthy of the name will lead even a dead comrade. >> there is a great misunderstanding of what shoulders, sailors, marines and airmen are afraid of in war. they are afraid of dying, but that's not what they are most afraid of. most are afraid of letting down the guy to the left or the one to their right. race was rarely thought of. the saying was mud, save mud. that's the way it was handled. >> reporter: being a hard-charging reporter doesn't mean being a heartless one. after 9/11, ron des his raw emo >> thine alabaster cities gleam undimmed by human tears. we can never sing that song again.

>> reporter: that was all long ago. these days you will find him under the shade of a stately old oak not far from his home in austin, texas. >> it's the treaty tree. >> reporter: it out lasted spanish conquests, the civil war, even urban sprawl. in the tangled branches, dan rather sees himself. >> survived for 600 years, can't do it without deep roots. >> reporter: comparable to you, endurance, strength, been in texas for a long time. >> i wish that were true. >> reporter: he spent his career trying to put the world in context for others, penning the first draft of history in his "reporter's notebook." dan rather knows more than anyone that the final draft is up to others, and that's how it should be. >> tnot think about the work. think about what you did as a person. those important questions, who am i? why am i here? what can i contribute?

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animals, making sure they see tomorrow and the next and the next. >> reporter: on this day, tyler cunningham is on mueal prep dut. he feeds the rhinoceros ekiguan >> do you feel a connection? >> for sure. definitely. very therapeutic. makes me feel a lot of love and be able to give love. it's a very good thing. >> reporter: jeanne sees that as a win-win. >> they give back to the community when they are here. they help with all of the chores that need to be undone, care for the animals, learn about some of the animals they never seen, heard of. >> reporter: like lemurs. erich garcia had only seen animated ones before he arrived at stock island. >> i remember the movie. >> reporter: the madagascar movie? >> yeah. >> reporter: never seen a kinkachoo before this one on my head.

>> say hi. >> reporter: twice a month the public is invited free of charge to get up close and personal with the animals. >> thank you. >> reporter: it's primarily funded by donations of cash and of kale. >> it was nice to see them. >> reporter: robert velazquez was once incarcerated here. >> i am free and able to walk out of the gate. >> reporter: he wanted to bring his family back to show them the animals he used to work with. >> that's kelsey. isn't that crazy? >> reporter: moone day he hopeso start an animal-focused nonprofit of his own. those are the types of stories that motivate jeanne. >> if i can make a difference in one person's life, that means something to me. so not only am i changing inmates' lives, but making a difference in the animals' lives as well. >> reporter: it's interesting

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>> reporter: of the kentucky derby museum. >> we have had two world wars, a depression, pandemics, we've always run a kentucky derby. >> justify has won the kentucky derby! >> reporter: jockey mike smith has had the most mounts in kentucky derby history. 28. he has won it twice. >> are those two derby wins different? >> without a doubt. i often tried to describe the feeling, what it feels like. i can't find words. >> this is the 1940 mint julep glass. >> reporter: a source of pride in kentucky. much, but not all. 13 of the 15 jockeys in the first derby were black men, including the winner, oliver lewis. black jockeys won 15 of the first 28 derbies, but then there were none for an uncomfortable

length of time. long past jim crow. from 1920 to 2000, no black jockeys. why not? >> it's an unfortunate time in our history where certain laws prohibited african american jockeys from participating. certainly we have come a long way since then and we are trying to ensure that we're fair and there is equal opportunities for anyone to participate in our sport today. >> reporter: recent history has also created challenges to the derby's image. last year, a dozen horses went down during training in the weeks surrounding the race. an independent investigation cleared churchill downs of any fault in the deaths. but questions linger. >> 12 horse deaths. what's going on? >> churchill downs takes safety of our participants very seriously. we don't ever think it's suitable or tolerable when there

is an equine death. >> at the line, it's going to be secretariat! >> reporter: for all the pageantry we will see unfold at churchill downs, it is, after all, the horses that are at the center of everything. which is why during the last decade they spent half a billion dollars renovating and modernizing. the centerpiece is a $200 million paddock to showcase the magnificent creatures who are the stars of the show. >> kind of feel like i'm standing next to babe ruth. >> yes. the presence of greatness, i call it. >> coming to the finish, marijuana pharaoh. >> reporter: won the kentucky derby and triple crown in 2015. he is now living the life out to stud at coolmore farm in kentucky horse country under the watch of dermot ryan. >> he is taking the carrot

gently? >> yeah, many horses, i would have lost a finger by now. >> reporter: i thought most champions have that killer edge. >> he does. when he was on the track he was focused. they couldn't stop him. that's what made him so well. he had the will and heart to win. >> reporter: this saturday for the 150th time another 3-year-old will possess just a touch more heart than the rest of the field. and end the day draped with a garland of roses. >> i get emotional thinking about it. it's pretty neat. powerful, man. i wish i could bottle that feeling up, man, and just let someone take a sip of it, man. it's amazing. >> and it is going to be -- >> reporter: and it will like every other first saturday in may when they run the fastest two minutes in sports at churchill downs. only better. >> every kentucky derby is special and unique, but there is something a little more special

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