gone. just briefly, we are out of time but you are saying earlier, the fact that shooter is gone doesn't mean we are not changing our lifestyles to adapt all this of thought and violence. >> no, sadly it is more of a demonstration. in fact, it is a reminder that actually, we are not all that safe. it is terrible that we have to have. in this fashion. i understand why he was saying that, and we do want to get on with their lives but it is a terrible reminder. >> it is. carol lamb, carmen best, we appreciate your analysis and support in this hour, breaking news on this day of great tragedy. thank you both for the your time. that is all, i am here for tonight on sunday. but our coverage continues. i'm going to handed over to my friend ayman mohyeldin who is here to pick up the coverage. eamonn, i don't want to overstress this point as the immigrant here, as the guy who has lived in america less than ten years, but no other country, no one else in another country lives like this. it is safe to say that other

countries have all kinds of problems similar to the u.s.. but, it's one of the things, mehdi, in the conference it out to me it gets to the heart of what you're saying is what the. , sheriffs ed. the status quo is not working. he said that california has some of the toughest colors in the country. country, but that the status quo was simply not working and i think that really cuts to >> the heart of the situation. yeah, as we have ayman, it's important to note that they're, time and time again saying there is no longer on his a threat at this conversations but we fall short every time. the time and we keep suspect connected to seeing more and more this mass shooting has mass been shootings. we are identified, as going to continue the 72-year-old conversation, thank you so-year-old huu can tran much for all of, your coverage. over the so i want to past come our. we want to continue backtrack a bit. and talk about that right now by how we got to this going point. they back were several to monterey park locations for nga, where this all -- and in unfolded. that brief we're here in monterrey park, at ten others wounded 10:30 last, night roughly around kathy park 10:30 last night, joins us now that's when live from the scene

officials say they. entered kathy, lots to break down a dance hall for what we have heard from the last soon hour. give me some of after the celebrations the major takeaways wrapped up in terms of and that's how when the this particular suspect fired incident has come to indiscriminately into the a conclusion with crowd. the killing ten, suspect being injuring several identified in others. self inflicted meanwhile, there is gunshot wound in that white van. reports of another incident at a separate location in alhambra, a few moments away. minutes away from. here officials are saying that they're there was two members of the community, officials are hailing them heroes at this time, for disarming the suspect, and what's interesting in this press conference, eamonn, is that police were able to recover a pistol that had extended large capacity magazines. they say if it were not those members that stepped in, and acted quickly. this could've been far worse. obviously, this extended into another location. as i mentioned, there were three

different crime scenes. in torrance, california, officials say they were able to confront a man in a white that. and just a few moments ago, we heard from officials that the suspect died of assaulted looked at gun full shot wound. that person is now linked to this mass shooting. they were able to uncover a handgun from that van, but there's still a lot of questions at this hour. we don't have the exact motive, but this happened during what would have been a day of celebration here in this community here in monterrey park, they're hosting or they were hosting celebrations as a two day event, and typically thousands of people would be out in the streets. but officials are saying, that yvette had wrapped up, and this dance hall it was a separate event for this mass shooting took place but you heard from community members obviously their sense of security has been shattered, they're trying to begin the healing process. but there's so many questions, especially out about victims. we do know that seven people

are hospitalized at this time. we don't have the i.d.s of the victims. but once, again a tragic day, ten people killed, and another mass shooting in this country. >> nbc's kathy park live for us, cathy, thank you for that update. i want to bring to the conversation democratic congressman maxwell frost of florida. -- for march of our lives. a gun control organization establish in the wake of the parkland and florida shooting. congressman, thank you for joining us, i'm sad it has to be on the news of another massacre in this country. he survived an incident without violence yourself. it was during halloween back in 2016, in orlando. and you can let start your thoughts about how some of these survivors might be feeling right now? >> it's another sad day in this country. but unfortunately, it's not a unique day. in the way of mass shootings in this country. or we lose 100 lives a day, the leading cause of death for children, leading cause of death for children in this country's gun violence. unfortunately, now this community is now part of this club that no one wants to be

part of. of communities that have been torn apart due to gun violence. i know they'll come together, i'll know that they'll be stronger than other afterwards, you know this happened in my community of orlando, florida, opals nightclub where we lost 49 angels due to armed bigotry, hate, and what this communities feeling is a sense of distress, terror i remember those weeks right after polson orlando, the days, weeks leading up to the incident where i survived, you feel a sense of being uncomfortable in your own community, in your own home. it's hard to overcome that. i don't really have the answers to it, what i do know, is that this is preventable. every time someone dies because of gun violence, it's a policy failure. and when we don't talk about, it when we don't act on, it will continue to have horrible days like this, where there's such a massive loss of life. we need to take action, thoughts, prayers are great. but what's better, what's better than that, is action that's gonna help save peoples lives. >> they're saying this isn't unique, you can just look at what's happened in the past 24

hours. this is not the only mass shooting to take place over the last 24 hours. police in baton rouge, louisiana, are searching for at least one suspect involved in a nightclub shooting that left a dozen people injured. that's according to officials there. does it seem like a day with at least one mass shooting in this country is now more common than a day without one? >> now 100 percent, i want people at home to think about is this. think about mass shootings and the impact they have in our country, think about that loss of life. that's 1% of gun violence. i don't say that to detract from mass shootings. i said to show people how big this problem is. so when we have politicians, who come up here to d.c., or go to legislature, and say they want to work in a bipartisan way. but one common sense bills come up, things like universal background checks, which we don't have in this country at the federal level. they say they don't want to vote for it,

even though most nra members, most republicans are for universal background checks. the definition of bipartisanship appears in d.c., means what the nra -- people are for. so, this is the country we live in right now. and this country, right now, god forbid if your child or to die under the age of 18, it would be mostly because of gun violence. and that's just unacceptable. it's a policy failure, we need to color leaders on that. our movement, march for our lives called diaz back in 2018. we need to continue to call bs on this issue. and it's completely unfortunate that we're having this massive loss of life, and we said it before, there's no other major country in the world that has this type of problem. this is the reason i decided to run for congress. >> tell us why, i know you've only been in congress for a short time, why is nothing

changing. you just heard from law enforcement official whose briefing the public. that the status quo is not working. this is a front line law enforcement official. who has to deal with the consequences of the lack of action that you are describing. and has not been solved in this country. he's standing there in front of a broken community, a country that's watching. that's yet, somehow it's not getting done, why is this not getting done time and time again? what's your understanding of why our policymakers continue to fail this country on this issue? >> i think there's many reasons, the one that rings true, the one that sticks out for me after being in this fight for over a decade now, is that it has to do with folks who value, profits over people. and i know a lot of folks talk about the nra all the time, we need to because the nra doesn't care about every day gun owners, they care about gun manufacturers -- it's not an advocacy group it's a lobbying front to make more money for the gun industry. what we see, like i said before, as we have great policy that the majority

of americans in this country are for. and then we have -- the consequences of the lack of action that you are describing. and has not been solved in this country. he's standing there in front of a broken community, a country that's watching. that's yet, somehow it's not getting done, why is this not getting done time and time again? what's your understanding of why our policymakers continue to fail this country on this issue? >> i think there's many reasons, the one that rings true, the one that sticks out for me after being in this fight for over a decade now, is that it has to do with folks who value, profits over people. and i know a lot of folks talk about the nra all the time, we need to because the nra doesn't care about every day gun owners, they care about gun manufacturers -- it's not an advocacy group it's a lobbying front to make more money for the gun industry. what we see, like i said before, as we have great policy that the majority of americans in this country are for. and then we have

politicians that are under the thumb of the nra. under the thumb of the people on top of them. and they decide not to take bold action to save lives in their own communities. it's people who value corporate profits, over human lives. over the lives of our children, and it's the money reasons why we need to get money out of politics, money out of politics. one of the many reasons why we need to do everything we can to strengthen our democracy. and in gun violence in this country, there's a sweet law we need to pass. whether it's banning assault weapons, universal background checks. but there's also institutional changes we need to make, to have fertile ground for the bold gun chases we need as well. and part of, that is protecting our democracy. and ensuring people have the actual right to vote, that it's not surprised. and getting big money out of politics. but we see it's a lot of these corporate interests within the gun industry. that

have bought so many politicians in this country. and it's a huge reason why we have not seen bold action on a long time. >> this was supposed to be a moment of celebration, for members of the war aapi community, lunar new year, at this point when you look at the -- cannot go safely. movie theaters, malls, schools, places of worship, dance hall, supermarkets. you cannot go anywhere in this country without fear of a mass shooting. what does living under this kind of fear due to our collective mental health, at one point, at what point do we look at ourselves and say, our mental health is not good. we're not in a state of well-being if we cannot walk around in our society without the constant fear of being gunned down in large number. >> it's not right, our mental

health is not good right now. this is part of the reason why over the past several years we've seen an uptick in advocacy. people coming out of the woodwork, committing their life to this cause and many other causes. they've had enough of this built in trauma. that's within our country, where you go to the movie theater, you're scoping out the exits, we are going to church, and scoping out the exits. or if somebody walks by you, maybe look suspicious, and you walk the other way because you're scared. and this needs to do with the fact that there, we haven't had bold action taken on this issue. people should not be scared to go out of their community. and we have a party, and this radical right-wing republican party, that's gaining power that's taking this word freedom, and they're providing it and using it to sell their ideas. we know the truth, true freedom's ability to go to school without

fear of being gunned down. true freedom is the ability to go to church, grocery store, go to your community, be in your own home without the fear of being gunned down in this country. so, we're fighting for true freedom, and a huge step and that is ensuring that our people feel safe. that our children feel safe. and there are laws that we can pass to move in that direction. but, again there's so many factors at hand here, we need to talk about them. and that's just unfortunate, march for our lives just two weeks today, the era of safe spaces, is slowly going away. and we saw that impulse, where a safe space -- we see here, where folks are in a safe space, ten people were murdered. and so there's a lor people don't feel like they're gonna be gunned down. >> they're shrinking by the day. i can't think of any more safe spaces in this country. congress and maxwell frost florida. greatly appreciate your time, your insights with all the experience you've gone through on this issue. thank you so much, sir. we appreciated. >> thanks for having me. >> we are coverage of the mass shooting in california's gonna

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of the california mass shooting and what we've learned from the police press conference that just ended a few moments ago. joining the conversation, clint watts, and chris brown, a president of brady an organization focused on preventing gun violence in this country. clint i'll start with you. mode have not yet establish, that's gonna take some time, but let's talk about how this

shooting and i want to use the word spree, there was two shootings but let's talk about how this came to a conclusion with how the police identify this man from what we heard during the press conference. what were your takeaways from it, in terms of the significant -- as it moves into the motive part, or establishing the motive part? >> usually in these mass shootings, we're looking to try and figure out motive between two things, one is it ideological, that's more common with terrorist attacks which we've seen many have. or is it personal motivations. and that i think is where we're heading with the situation. it seems like it was somebody who was possibly known to some of the people. and one, are both more targets.

both of them, very close together that usually indicates someone locally. it's unusual in terrorist situations to see the same kind of place struck twice. probably a personal motivation. when you look at how law enforcement descended on the van, they worked quickly, this happened in the middle of the night. it's one of the toughest times to gather evidence. particularly, if you're looking for cc tv, closed caption television, or digital camera security systems. you almost always have to wait till everybody wakes up, they're not even aware, that's the cameras that could catch vehicles, and that's what i'm really looking at right now with the van. i think the way they handled the van situation was spot on. they did everything the right way. i also notice, they were very smart about how they went up by identifying the subject, person of interest by grow -- without revealing a name. i think that's a lesson learned over the many years since the boston bombing, not want getting to get too many false positives. having a good idea we are

looking for, and trying to protect people in their identities. and make sure they're really focused. overall, were pretty remarkable job by everyone in los angeles today. >> speaking of my identity, client, the police chief luna identify the sheriff there, identify the suspect as a 72 year old man. what i thought was interesting, was when he talked about the ages of the victims at this location. they're still working to identify all of the ages, and all of the next of kin. but he did say, they were in y, they were in his estimate from the ages of 50 and above. the fact that the shooter was 72 years old, according to police, that seems unusual. >> yes, for sure, generally there on the younger end of the spectrum. 20 would be a ballpark figure i throw out there. up and that's what you would hire routinely talking about when you are here on air. this is an outlier. you may remember, there was an older gentlemen although he didn't kill anyone, with the nashville bombing a few years

back on christmas day. very unusual. i think it speaks maybe to motive, what we might learn in the coming days. which is why did he do such an act at the age of 72? it could be health conditions, could be other issues that arise. or is it a personal relationship, something involved in that location. and really, those two places in particular with those communities, that he wanted to target. and it's interesting, a did not, we see in mass shootings from younger persons, they tend to just shoot at all available targets. we saw that in colorado, a couple. other places. this is not a case that sounded like -- i wonder if he had a very personal connection with many of the targets he was going. and beyond, that it was to cause maximum damage. i'm curious to learn more, this is definitely an outlier from what we see age wise in recent years. >> the police chief saying that the criminal mental health history, were being examined. which leads me, chris, to the

point that the sheriff made. which a lot of us are probably thinking this evening, i'm sure it's something that you thought about it time and time again, an airline of work, that the status quo is not working, he's very clear california has the toughest gotten laws. we're still learning more about this particular gun, and how it was acquired, whether or not it was legally purchased, or how he got his hands on this can, but nonetheless, the police chief saying, the status quo is not working. >> the status quo isn't working. we all know that as americans. it's horrible to be waking up to yet another morning, and hearing this news, ten people

whose lives were lost celebrating lunar new year. many other people wounded the reality, as for 22 days into january, and we've had 2500 fellow americans killed in this country. in those 22 days -- in america, this is a uniquely american problem. i celebrated my mother's 82nd birthday, we were sitting at a restaurant before i came here. and my stepfather sad, i feel like it happened here. that's the reality that we're facing. the most frustrating part of this, is that it does not have to be this way. we have solutions before us, that comprehensively can address gun violence, we need to expand the background check system. reports are that a high capacity magazine was used. we should buy had -- they make these kinds of shootings 50% more data. i also want to note something that congressman frost said, that i think is so important. when we think about gun violence in america today, it's the number one killer children, those 19 years old and under.

and it affects everyone in our society. there's no pocket of our society that's not impacted by gun violence. it costs our economy more than five billion dollars a year. it doesn't even count the communities, the neighborhoods, the school systems. the people who are going to lunar new year, who are celebrating fourth of july, whose lives are never the same. i deal with those people all the time, they have ptsd, serious problems going forward, whether they're the victim or the survivor, or the person in the school. or if they're attending that event. yes, we need to do much more. we need to treat this like the public health epidemic as. and tackle at the way we did when people were dying in cars. seatbelts, airbags, et cetera. expand background checks, have risk protection laws across the country, and let's always ask the question, where and how was the gun acquired? >> kris brown, clint watts,

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the united states of america, we have a former president and a current president that basically are in the situation. how does this happen? >> the same situation? really? senator manchin do we need to remind you know, both trump and biden were in the possession of classified material. yes, but how those materials came to light, how they've been handled matters. the two situations on that front couldn't be more dissimilar. case in point, friday search at biden's property, the president's lawyers voluntarily open the home for -- >> so it's got to be with you. but not to discuss this type of --

i just can't say my present thoughts are with the families -- it doesn't need to be [inaudible] it's not okay, i listen to the interview earlier before i came on. with my new colleague, and actually thinking after one after another of these shootings, maybe our young people make the difference. maybe people will listen to them in a way that they don't listen to us. i don't know how -- i don't know what is acceptable. i myself have told my own story, i know what it's like to hide in that closet, when you think someone's gonna kill you. i've had man in front of my house with assault weapons. i talk about it openly, in all kinds of different ways. and i don't know what it's

gonna take, i don't know what it's gonna take anymore to actually get us back. >> is there any other issue you face as a congresswoman, that leads you to have this kind of despair about fixing such a problem in this country? >> while there's other issues to that. i wish we could, let's be blunt. immigration -- are no better. and instead of all of us coming together, coming together and listening to each other, trying to find solutions, we'd rather just do this bickering with immigration reform, and gun reform in this country for decades. and we can never come together. it's getting worse, not better. >> i want to get your reaction if i can switching gears for a moment. and talk about politics to the additional classified documents found at president biden's presidency. you heard your democratic colleague there, joe manchin, saying that -- the trump and biden documents intuitions were quote, basically the same. how do you think biden has handled the matter so far. and do you agree with manchin's characterization? >> log, i need body that has classified materials needs to

handle it very carefully. if we watch things that we suspect that we have some other presidents that have -- classified documents. and what we need, are the facts. we lead to special prosecutors that are investigating, getting the facts. and when we have them, we should look at how we tighten the classified material. but let's be very clear, what you were saying before, it's very clear. joe biden when they were found, opened it, turned it over to the justice department. -- appointed a special prosecutor, so people would not accuse us of being -- on the other, case archives went looking for these documents, he referred to tune them over. they need to get subpoenas. documents were hidden, moved to different rooms. a very different way in which this is being handled. does the process need to be improved? clearly, i think we need to look at that. i think the way these two situations have been handled,

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the working men and women of this country. it's a bad idea. >> let me ask you one more political question before we go. again, michigan senator, your colleague debbie stabenow, on -- 2024. democrats that are on the defense heading into the next election cycle. your state is going to be a key battleground. have you decided to throw your hat into the ring, do you have insight on to that race? >> this is one of minnesota. you were all working together. michigan, we did great in the last election. but we're a purple state. it's not a state than any one can take for. granted i warned everyone, that chuck was gonna win michigan in 2016, and everyone thought it was crazy. we're gonna make sure we've got the strongest in this race to keep that seat democratic.

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president kamala harris built in tallahassee, florida, about what's at stake for women's reproductive health in america. >> the right of every woman, and every state in this country, to make decisions about her own body is on the line. and i said it before, i'll say it again, how dare they. >> vice president also announced at that event, that president biden issued a new presidential memorandum protecting access to medication abortion nationwide. a short time ago, i spoke with jennifer klein, director of the white house gender policy council who lies with the vice president today for that speech. >> jennifer klein, thank you so much for joining us. director cline, let's start with the vice president's speech today. talk to me about what you in the vice president wanted to convey, especially on such an important day? >> today, was supposed to be the day to mark the 50th anniversary of roe v. wade. instead, we were commemorating the fact that roe v. wade was overturned, so people on this

country no longer have the constitutional right, to privacy that's long protected the right to get an abortion in this country. the vice president's speech today was designed to mark this important day. it also to talk about the impact that that decision has had across the country, 26 million americans, women, live in states where there are now abortion bans in place. there have been severe impacts on women's health, in addition to their fundamental right, and the vice president went to florida today to talk about that. and to talk about the path forward. and how she in president biden in the whole biden harris administration will continue to protect fundamental rights and women's health. >> you told the atlantic, the white house needs access to abortion medication as quote, the next battle front. can you expand on that? how does this presidential

memorandum that the vice president announced today, impact that? >> as you probably know, 54% of abortions in this country are medication abortion. and the fda just recently made clear, the guidance that suggests that, that says that this medication should be available, prescribed by doctors, by telehealth. it can be dispensed by pharmacies, either by mail or at local retail pharmacy. and this was not the first, but after several times that the fda has made clear, literally since the year 2000, when they first approve the medication is safe enough active. that they have issued very specific guidance about how this medicine should be available. to people who need it across

the country. with the president -- what we've already seen is that states, 28 to state attorney general sent a letter last week. saying that medication abortion should not be available in their states. the governor of florida, has said that. medication abortion should not be made available in his state and when we have made available in his state. what the president did in this presidential memorandum, as you said, the vice president announced today in florida. was to make clear that medication abortion should be available. it should be prescribed by doctors, dispensed by pharmacies, available to the people, the patients who want to take it, and need to take it. and his cabinet asked to come forward with recommendations to make sure that that can happen. so, people can have access to this legal and safe medication. the second thing that the memorandum dad was that it

recognized that pharmacies are now similar to health clinics. . they're at risk. people who are working there, people who are going to pick up their medications. . they need to be safe from any physical violence or harassment when they're getting the medication that they've been prescribed by their doctor. >> last week, you convene legislative leaders from eight states, you just mentioned florida among the others where reproductive rights are on the line, texas being, otherwise conson being another, and you shed light on what you've learned on that from that meeting -- how do they plan on helping those communities specifically, as you mentioned the governor of florida being one example challenging this white house initiative through pharmacies. but what else can be done to make sure women have reproductive rights in those states where there is this attempt to restrict those rights? >> we really have a three

pronged strategy, and the vice president has really been a leader, she's convened hundreds of state legislators, across dozens of states. and so, what we did last week, was yet another attempt to bring state legislators together, in this case as you said, it was state legislators who are in states where there is republicans trying to pass really restrictive bans or other restrictions on abortion. what we've been doing, and what will continue to do and she is as i, said really let this work, and will continue to do that, is help the state legislators pushback, and help state legislators in states that are trying to do proactive things to protect reproductive rights, and how. because as we know, now that there is no longer a constitutional right protecting nationwide. the battle has really turned to the states, at the same time,

the president has been really clear about this since the day the dobbs decision came down, he spoke to this 45 minutes after the decision, that we would do everything we can in our power as an administration to protect reproductive health. we'll continue to do that, and the third piece is of course, again, as he said the only way to replace the constitutional right, is with national legislation. we will continue to fight to pass legislation -- caught a fine protect the rights that existed under roe. and that's what we'll continue to do and again the vice president made that point loudly and clearly in tallahassee. >> can i get you to reflect on this moment more broadly speaking. you've led the white house gender policy council since president biden first established in march of 2021. what is a mean to have a president who cares about these

issues, enough to create these kinds of organizations and his administration, especially at this turning moment in our country, and what is it meant to you to be the first person to lead it? >> i think that's, before this decision came down it was clear, we have a ways to go to achieve to gender equality in this country and around the world. and one of the things i've been particularly privileged to be able to do, is work through the council, on both global and domestic issues. matthew said, this decision on what we've seen transpire since at. has made really clear, the works not over. and having a president who first of all, saw fit to have a gender policy council, and to prioritize gender equality in the work that we do, in the biden harris administration and as we started to have the first female vice president, lou -- it has been an honor of course

for me personally, but it's a testament to their commitment, and the commitment of so many others across the administration. the work we've been doing on gender equality more generally, but also specifically on reproductive health and rights. it's really been as the president likes to call it, a whole -- approach. across agencies, so many members of the cabinet and their staff, and really everyone who's been part of the administration has had an incredibly important role today at this pivotal moment. >> jennifer klein, -- thank you so much for your time. i know it's been a busy day, we really appreciate your insights and your time this evening. thank you. all right after the break, we turn back to california. and the news we learned from the latest police press conference about the mass shooting that killed ten people.

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analyst and joyce vance. joy, it's great to have you with us. unfortunately, though not on this subject. i know it's kind of personal to, you tweet about your connection to monterey park, you grew up here writing that, it's a city rich in multiculturalism as we have come to learn throughout the day. talk to me about your initial reaction to this breaking news that hit close to home for you? >> well, this is a tragedy for the asian american and pacific islander community. that's experience so much hate, so much racism in the last few years. we don't yet know what the theater's motive as, but without regard to what it turns out to be this is yet another incident that increases fear and increases concern both in monterey park and communities across the country. it was reassuring i think to see a prompt police response that always is helpful because obviously weeks and months of healing ahead for this community. and for the individuals and their families who were either

killed, or harmed in the shooting. >> you mentioned motive, we haven't learned yet the motive according to officials has been a lot of developing news tonight. authorities have identified the mass shooter, huu can tran who is found in a white van with a self-inflicted gunshot wound in torrance, california. what do you expect we'll be hearing from authorities in the coming days? what questions do you have? >> so, there will be obviously investigation into how he got the gun. whether he expressed any sort of motive, to family members, whether he had been acting in an unusual ways. i think it's important that we not get ahead of the investigation. we always want to know what happened in a situation like this. this is a moment to let law enforcement do its job, to try to avoid inflicting any additional pain. on this community -- when as best law enforcement can do, we don't always find the motive. hopefully, we will hear. but then i think it's

appropriate for us to engage in a moment not just of help for this community. which will need our help. but a moment that should, like any of these other mass shootings. it should cause us to figure out how we're gonna fix the problem that's pervasive in america. >> we failed so many times legislatively, we spoke into congressman maxwell frost, congresswoman debbie dingell about what can be done. they gave us their thoughts, i'm curious from a legal perspective is there something that can be done here? whether it's to go after the gun manufacturers, are go after anyone who's a purveyor of these weapons, to try and prevent these mass shootings from happening again, legally speaking with your expertise of course? >> so, of course civil, ea there's been an increased move to file lawsuits against manufacturers. and there's been some success in that area. but in terms of preventing

incidents, we know that the one thing that works, is keeping guns out of the hands of people who might abuse them. i'm old enough, i was a prosecutor when we had a ban in place, on semi automatic weapons, the data suggest that that was successful. it reduced violence. all that was in effect, it was permitted to -- about a decade after went into effect. i warning to effect in 1994. there's no reason that we can't have another ban on semi automatic weapons. new zealand instituted something similar after the traumatic shooting in two mosques there, that led 51 people dead. but we don't have in this country is a political will, it's far too easy to say, second amendment and end the conversation there. but look, i'm a former member of law enforcement, i live in the deep south, i know at a handle legan. this isn't about at denying people the right, it's about making communities safer. >> that's something we should all be able to agree on. joyce vance, thank you for your time. i appreciate it. as always.

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