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cartels? >> no, and precisely i think that's something that president biden should have done when he visited the border. you can say everything we want, we can talk about policy, but go to the other side and you will see this. it's important to understand that no matter how conservative you are at the border, no matter how hard you want to make it for migrants to come to the u.s., that only benefits the cartels. migrants will continue to come, the desperation we just saw on our screens, that isn't deterred by walls and policies and policy debates. it's not. people will continue to migrate north, so what do you do? >> the desperation is so acute and it is driving people to do things that are debasing their own, that force them to debase their own humanity and we are not looking at this, we're not talking about this at all, your reporting is so essential. i'm so grateful for everything you do to shine a light on this, really important stuff. thanks for making the time
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tonight. >> that is our show this evening, it's time for the last world with in the for lawrence. >> good evening. thank you for continuing to stay on the story of the difficulty that migrants face, there's never a time that paula is not on tv where i don't just stop to listen but when she said it used to be migrants could pay with cash, now they pay with their bodies, that's a line it's going to stick with me for a while. >> that's part of this debate that is never articulated. what is happening to human beings in the name of stricter immigration protocols is devastating. be mac you're telling those stories and paula is telling those stories, we'll see you tomorrow. today, literally hours after new york criminal trial judge imposed a gag order on donald trump, trump spent the day attacking the judge and his daughter on social media. trumps relentless hate filled attacks, which we will not show on this program accuse the judges daughter of making anti- trump posts on an account that
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a spokesperson for the office of court administration said was hacked, and no longer belongs to her. donald trump leveled the same attacks against the wife of the judge overseeing trumps civil fraud trial. again the court administration said the account was hacked. the gag order, which bans attacks from trump on witnesses, jurors, prosecutors, court staff, and their families, doesn't specifically restrict donald trump from attacking judge mershon or his family. but it shows donald trump's utter contempt for the judicial system as he faces his first criminal trial starting in less than three weeks. on april 15th. judge merchan's family has nothing to do with the criminal fraud case against donald trump. donald trump knows exactly what he's doing. here's how judge merchan seized donald trump's threatening, inflammatory, and denigrating comments against everyone associated with the judicial system as he wrote in a gag order.
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the consequences of those statements included not only fear on the part of the individual targeted, but also the assignment of increased security resources to investigate threats and protect the individuals and family members thereof. given that the eve of the trial is upon us, it is without question that the imminence he of the risk of harm is now paramount. this is how donald trump attacks the judicial system, he runs the cameras as he did on monday ranting about with guns and victimhood while using social media to stoke anger against the innocent relatives of people involved in the judicial system. and nbc news analysis of trumps social media platform found that his unprecedented attacks on the judicial system are frequently tied to developments in his court cases, and they at times have outnumbered his posts about his re-election bid. donald trump intends to use his
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criminal trial to undermine democracy by igniting threats around the judicial system, just like he sparked threats against those administering our elections. judge merchan, like other judges and prosecutors who try to hold trump accountable, had been the targets of death threats just as election workers and state and local officials have incurred the wrath of trump and his followers. the department of justice announced this week that it's investigating dozens of threats made to election workers, and has charged 20 individuals so far. seven have been sentenced to more than 18 months in prison including two who have been convicted for targeting katie hobbs, arizona's former secretary of state. and now governor. still, those threats have had a chilling effect, driving election workers to leave the profession. it's worth pointing out that donald trump has never, ever lodged these kinds of attacks against judge aileen cannon or her family, because judge cannon, who is a trump appointee, has been doing
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everything she can do to help donald trump delay his criminal trial in florida on his illegal retention and obstruction of classified documents. this comes as donald trump is running out of time, again, to post bond in his new york civil fraud judgment, even though it was reduced to $175 million from 464 million. he has until april 4th to post that bond, with an appeals court saying it would only delay enforcement of the full amount if he put up the lower figure within this window, and it's not immediately clear how he will come up with the money. reports the washington post. the new york times has new reporting today dealing with how donald trump has paid some of his legal bills, since leaving office, donald trump has spent over $100 million on his legal bills from his campaign coffers according to the new york times. the remarkable some means that donald trump has averaged more
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than $90,000 a day in legal related costs for more than three years. none of it paid for with his own money. instead, the former president has relied almost entirely on donations made in an attempt to fight the results of the 2020 election. donald trump is using money he's raised by lying about the 2020 election, lies that threatened election workers and caused many to quit their jobs, to pay for his legal troubles. and now he's deploying the same strategy of lies and threats to a new york courtroom. joining us now is the former united states attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law, co-host of the podcast sisters-in-law, and she is an msnbc legal analyst. joyce, there is something about this that is personal for you. this business of threatening judges and their families, and court employees. this matters more to you than
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sometimes just casual discussions about the law. >> you know, it's not just a theoretical risk in my family. my father-in-law was a federal judge on the 11th circuit court of appeals, who was murdered by a dissatisfied litigant who also seriously injured my mother-in-law, and what i think as i look at donald trump and his conduct, is this isn't someone in the legal system, this isn't an individual who doesn't hold government office, who is imposing risk on these judges and these jurors, and these witnesses, this is the former president of the united states, the former commander of chief, who at this point in time knowing that when he speaks, some of his followers listen and act, and he nonetheless proceeds to impose this sort of risk, really putting a bull's-eye on the back of a judge, and of that judges daughter.
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it's tragic, it's unacceptable, as so many things with trump are, i think sometimes we just don't stop and reflect on how wrong it is, how dangerous it is. but in this instance, targeting the child of the public servant is just beyond the bounds. >> there's some specificity about this case that makes it interesting. we're trying to learn more about the court says that judge merchan's daughter's account was hacked, something similar happened to judge angora's wife in the civil fraud trial. >> that's right, donald trump seems to make these careless, irresponsible allegations trying to imply that family members of judges and family members of prosecutors are against him, that they want to attack him. and something you will not see him do, at least that he hasn't done in the past, he will not walk it back. he puts the allegation out there, whipping his supporters into a frenzy of support for
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him, but he never corrected when it turns out that he was wrong. >> let's talk a little bit about the gag orders we started talking about them in part because donald trump was going after judge engoron's clerk. the clerks tend to be hesitant to make any sort of gag orders or restrictions about judges, about prosecutors, about people who are actively involved in the case. but donald trump continues to push this line particularly with angora rounds clerk. >> and in this order, judge merchan mentions what he is obligated to do under the law is to make a balancing calculation. he thinks about the free speech and the first amendment aspects of donald trump's speech, and he balances that against risk to individuals, and importantly the risk to this administration of justice. he is obligated to protect the integrity of the proceedings in
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his courtroom, so he looks at all of donald trump's statements, and in his order, judge merchan says, donald trump doesn't deny making any of these statements, he doesn't deny their impact on people, as you read, people are frightened, people are terrified when this sort of conduct is directed at them. what donald trump says is, i have a right to speak to my followers. i have a right to speak to voters and be heard. the judge says, you know that's not the case. under the law we can engage in these modest restrictions. those restrictions don't extend to the judge, they don't extend to the elected prosecutor. in this case. at least those people, their families are left out hanging, the judge can protect witnesses and jurors and others who work for the court. >> good to see you as always, thank you for being with us this evening. joyce vance. joining us now, suzanne craig new york times blitzer prize- winning investigative reporter, you've been following this money trail with donald trump.
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there so many money things happening with donald trump this week, there's a reduced bond that he does actually have to produce, and i'd love to know your thoughts on where you think he is, there. donald trump is on paper many billions of dollars wealthier than he started the week because his stock has started trading, and that's a really interesting story about how that all came to be. and he's selling bibles for $59.99. start wherever you'd like. >> i think i'll leave the bibles for a little bit, maybe start with the bond. he has to pay a reduced bond, $175 million, and that's down from $450 million and change. that happened earlier in the week, it seemed like weeks ago, on monday that that hit, when the appellate court came down and said you can post a smaller bond. it does mean eventually if he's not successful on appeal that he won't have to pay the full thing, but the appellate court didn't give a reason for the
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reduction, they said, for now you can post that and move forward with the appeal. i don't know where he's at with the payment. i would have thought he might have moved a bit more quickly because he's clocking interest on that, but he still got a few days to post it, and it feels like he'll come up with the cash somewhere, we don't know. but it feels like with the appellate court did took some oxygen, or took a lot of pressure off of that discussion. >> the one thing he can't do, he can't use the cash, the book value that he's increased by this week because of his stock. this was interesting, this is the truth social merged with a shell company, went public, has got a lot of followers, people who are not typical investors or institutional investors who bought this thing. stock was way, way up, then it was just up a lot, tell me about whether this has any relationship to his financial troubles and whether he can leverage that money at all.
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>> we don't know where he's going to get the money from. he said that he's going to put up cash, but you can get cash from a lot of places. the truth social, it went public through this company and began trading on the nasdaq under the ticker symbol dj t, this week. but we don't know, it looks like right now he can't use his value of his shares, his equity in that, to meet the bond. but his shares are worth billions, but they're locked up until october. but, there's talk that he could get a waiver, potentially and maybe sell some shares. we just don't know. i don't want to say with any certainty he can't do it, always careful about what i don't know, but it looks like the rules right now are he's got to wait six months to access those shares. who knows what they're going to be worth in six months.
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there is speculation he'll get a loan off those shares, i don't know who would lend him money on those, because you don't know what it's going to be worth down the road. >> in the old days you and i used to know what a stock was worth because it followed a pattern based on what the company had or earned or what a company was expected to earn. in this case there's no relationship between the price of this dj t stock and what the underlying asset, truth social, earns. >> i think it's really important to remember the revenue of this company is minuscule. it's not making money. it feels like the game stop stock, right now, these stocks are very speculative, i think there's a lot of people, supporters of donald trump in there trying to push it up. it's a very volatile and high risk stock, so it could be anywhere from worth a lot more in six months to almost zero in six months, we don't know. right now it doesn't look like he can immediately access it, but the board are friendly to him, they may vote and allow
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him to do it, or he may draw on his own cash. we don't know how much cash he has on hand, but there's a sense that he may have enough to meet this. we really don't know. >> thanks as always for your great reporting on this, suzanne craig, as a pulitzer prize-winning reporter. coming up, president biden has called benjamin netanyahu's left. today the prime minister signaled that he is willing to listen to the white house warnings about an israeli assault. in gaza. that's next. that's next. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that.
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with israel's strongest ally, america. today he blinked. earlier today, netanyahu's office reached out to the biden white house to un-cancel a meeting between an israeli delegation of netanyahu advisers to discuss a potential military operation in rafah. >> i would say this. we are working to set a date, the prime minister's office agreed to reschedule this meeting, you saw that the defense, the israel defense minister was here for two days, extended a day and added another day to meet with jake sullivan, and bill burns. that's the conversation we are having, we are working toward that meeting, an important meeting on rafah and when we have a date, we will share that with you. that is what we know from our side. >> that's a major reversal from netanyahu, who canceled the meeting two days ago in protest
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after the united states did not block a un security council resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire in gaza from passing. in the statement today, netanyahu said my decision not to send a delegation to washington in the wake of that resolution was a message to hamas. netanyahu can read today's american headlines himself, a new poll showing a majority of americans now disapprove of israel's military action in gaza. 55% approval for netanyahu's war has fallen, fallen 14% since november. this new piece in the atlantic by netanyahu biographer titled, benjamin netanyahu is israel's worst prime minister ever. he writes, since his re- election in 2022, netanyahu is no longer the center of power but a vacuum, a black hole that has engulfed all of israel's political energy. most israelis, he writes,
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already realize that netanyahu is the worst of the 14 prime ministers their country has had in 76 years of independence, but in the future, might even remember him as the leader who inflicted the most harm on his people since the squabbling hasmonean kings brought civil war and roman occupation to judeo nearly 21 centuries ago. netanyahu's obsession with his own destiny as israel's protector has caused his country grievous damage. joining us now is aaron david miller, a senior fellow for international peace and a former arab-israeli negotiator. in famous, you have been saying since day one of this horrible tragic war that there are parties on both sides of this that are not the right parties to bring a solution, and you were clear that hamas is one of them and netanyahu is the other. what netanyahu has showed us is in the face of all the criticism he comes up against, he is intractable.
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>> i think that's right. the truth is, thanks for having me, benjamin netanyahu wants to be prime minister more than any other israeli politician who is relatively competitive for the job. he wanted more, he's desperate to maintain himself in power, and he'll do just about anything to do so. i would argue he's a biographer, it's an extraordinary indictment that he wrote in the atlantic, but the reality is israel now has probably the worst leader it could possibly have. a man on trial for bribery, fraud, and breach of trust, three years running in jerusalem district court. he's conflated his own political and legal travails, with what he regards as the best interest of his country, that's not the kind of leader that you want presiding over the worst terror attack in
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israel's history, and the bloodiest day for since the end of the holocaust. intractable, your 100% right. and right now, irreplaceable. there's no way to end his tenure, for now. >> israeli leaders have often, whether they're military or civilian leaders, they often softened their hardlines toward the end of their career in the hopes of creating some legacy. generally speaking a legacy of peace hasn't worked in most cases. but they tried. netanyahu has become farther to the right. he's become more conservative, more hawkish through his entire tenure. is that something about him or is that the politics right now what you described, netanyahu needs to be prime minister of israel because otherwise he might face justice. >> i think it's political and existential survival. there is precedent for
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conducting an israeli prime minister and having them serve time. he served 14 to 16 months, he wasn't indicted when he was prime minister which separates him from the current prime minister, but for benjamin netanyahu, the risk averse, the one that joe biden referred half jokingly as my good friend beatty, has become a risk ready desperate prime minister whose maintenance in power is critical, probably to his freedom. it is only a matter of time, though, when this war winds down, and the accountability of what's transpired over the last two years kicks in. i'd venture to say next year at this time, if you and i are talking, benjamin netanyahu will probably not be prime minister of israel. >> on march 14th you wrote an opinion piece called words over deeds, why biden isn't pressuring israel. it was a good piece and i read
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the whole thinking somewhere in here there's going to be some ray of hope and something you're going to tell me, some twist that's going to occur and change things and there wasn't. i read right to the last word. it's honest, as you are, you're not seeing how this changes. how biden looks at his domestic political situation, global opinion, american public opinion, and does something differently even though he is no fan of benjamin netanyahu's. >> it's very well stated and absolutely true. the president faces a real problem. does he want to make a point or does he want to make a difference? if he wants to make a difference and change the picture in gaza, the de- escalation, humanitarian assistance, get a temporary cease-fire that could last as long as six weeks, he has no choice but to continue negotiating or have israel and hamas negotiating, the americans would mediate, my former colleague and friend is
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a central negotiator on the american side, here. he needs that israeli hamas steel. the problem is that the party that seems to be in a hurry to get such a deal is not hamas, and it's not the government of israel. it's the biden administration. that's the real problem. he's in a strategic cul-de-sac and frankly we're now in a six month of the war, almost the six month of the war. there is still no way out, a strategic cul-de-sac. that's the real problem, here, the only pathway out is an agreement that buys time and space, breaks the battlefield dynamic, frieze hostages, and maybe, just maybe, open things up for a de-escalation and a continued cessation of hostilities. >> which we had for a few days when there was a deal. it hasn't been modeled. we also have direct relations and talks with iran, very influential with thomas. we have relations with the egyptians, they are talking to
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hamas, is there some sense that hamas will help out, will try and do the right thing? >> part of the problem is the architect of the october 7 terror surge, is buried in a tunnel 30 meters below ground, it's a wonder how they're communicating with him. and is no wonder these negotiations are slow and tedious. i think hamas still believes they could trade tunnels and hostages for time. and they don't seem to be in any hurry to cut a deal, even though that deal would involve an asymmetrical exchange of maybe up to 1000 palestinian prisoners. the government of israel, let's be clear, netanyahu, the longer the war goes on, the better for benjamin netanyahu. maybe he'll end up killing, maybe the israel is linda
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rescuing the hostages and somehow he'll be able to redeem his political career. it's a really sad that antics ordinarily difficult time for israelis and certainly palestinians. >> you have not for a moment, in the last six months, postulated something that is hopeful, but not likely to happen. this is unfolding, sadly, as you suspected it might. to see you as always. coming up, democrats are planning to make abortion access and reproductive rights a huge campaign issue in november, but the strategy has already worked for one candidate, and in alabama of all places. will remember last night if you were watching, the democrat marilyn lance who campaigned on this exact issue, flipped a seat in alabama state house. she joins us, next. next. opens doors where it matters for you. what if we need to see a doctor away from home? ucard gets you in with medicare advantage's largest
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by one percentage point in 2020. the biden/harris campaign has called her win a major warning sign for trump, saying that alabama voters know exactly who to blame for restricting their ability to decide how and when to build their families, and they're ready to fight back. it's a seat marilyn lands ran for two years ago, and lost by seven points to republican david cole, who held that seat until he pleaded guilty to voter fraud in august. marylin lands ran on women's reproductive rights in alabama, where the state supreme court ruled that frozen embryos are people, and which has a near- total abortion ban. she shared her own experience with abortion in this campaign ad. >> i was pregnant with a baby who had a fatal condition and would not survive. and because of alabama's abortion ban, we had to drive 10 hours to get the medical care i needed.
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>> i once faced a nearly identical situation, but was able to get the care i needed close to home. it's shameful that today, women have fewer freedoms than i did two decades ago. we need to repeal alabama's abortion ban and protect women's freedoms. if you elect me, that's exactly what i plan to do. >> joining us now is the democrat state representative marilyn lanz of alabama, who was sworn into office earlier today. congratulations, thank you for being with us. tell us how you did this. how did you turn this district around? >> well, it was a pretty amazing victory, and i did not expect it to be the landslide it was. but, we had so many conversations with people at the doors, people reached out to me, and it was such a personal thing that everyone was sharing stories, stories they hadn't told, some people
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said i haven't told this story in 30 years, or no one knows this, but my family, so i've heard of struggles with miscarriages, infertility, and atopic pregnancies, and the heartbreak all of these situations bring to families, and it has felt very different from my 2022 campaign. a totally different energy. women hug me at the doors. this message has resonated. >> when the first day they went to to talk to people about it was alabama, because alabama quickly became one of the most restrictive places in america, related to reproductive health care. and i remember a number of people there with whom i spoke said don't give up on alabama. don't assume that you can tell people in alabama what other states they can go to, because
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that's what they'll have to do, don't let the fight in alabama go out. this is the front line of the fight, not just for abortion and reproductive rights, but for contraception, who knew we were fighting about ivf until recently? the point was, pay attention to alabama, things can change, there. >> i was stunned by the ivf ruling, and i felt like alabama has become ground zero for attacks on women's freedoms and reproductive health care and yesterday's victory just showed that the people want something different, things are changing, the people have spoken, and i think things are going to change pretty rapidly, here, i'm excited. >> it has animated people, it has caused people who in many cases have voted republican or think of themselves as conservatives in the past to say, doug jones was on with joy earlier today and he said, it feels like a line has been
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crossed for many, many people in alabama, and they won't put up with it. >> many people have said we have gone too far, and from my personal story, the fact that we stepped two decades backwards. this is not progress. and we want progress. we want to move forward. i think that's where we're at. >> there is on march 6th, or it was reported march 6th, that representative anthony daniels from huntsville introduced the right to contraception act, i remember in alabama people telling me they're coming for contraception, too. it's actually hard for women who are not covered or don't have insurance to get a doctors appointment if they don't already have one. so, this idea, even getting contraception is something that has become more difficult in alabama than it was before the fall of rho. >> exactly. i'm fearful because when the dobbs decision was handed down, and alabama pulled the trigger act, all other states followed.
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and my biggest fear is that whatever we do next is going to spread. so we got to stop it here, and i think the victory last night really show that that's what the people want. we are ready to stand up for women's health, reproductive freedom, it's not something that the legislature should be involved in. it's a personal, personal decision. >> that sounds like a very strong argument in a conservative state. what does the rest of the argument look like, when you saw joe biden and vice president harris talking about this, you as an example and your campaign, how does it go in red states? tell me what the argument is to be able to say you've got to come out and vote because your rights are being taken away? >> i have found that, at least in this district, which does
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tend to be a little different than the rest of alabama, that many people who consider themselves traditional republicans are standing with this issue. especially when the ivf ruling came down, that there's just been this pushback that we have gone too far. and we need to move forward. and that's what i think this victory signifies. >> alabama state representative meryl lanz, thank you for joining us this evening. congratulations. >> thank you for having me here, thank you so much. it is just alabama, democrats are looking at other red states to make reproductive rights a decisive campaign issue. tomorrow it will be all eyes on florida for the same reason. we'll explain r.o.t. why, that's next. why, that's n in adults with chronic migraine before they even start. it's the #1 prescribed branded chronic migraine treatment.
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in a november poll, 62% of florida voters said they would support this measure if it appears on the ballot. at the state level, democrats have already proven that focusing on abortion rights wins elections, as you just heard from the alabama state representative marilyn lanz. in january, florida democrats flipped the seat in the florida state legislature from republican to democrat, largely on the issue of preserving reproductive freedoms. the navy veteran tom kean won as a democrat in a district where the republican won by nearly 11 points in the last election. and our next guest, florida house leader house democratic leader fentress driscoll was instrumental in helping democrats take the seat back. in an election where democrats were outspent 2-1, leader driscoll and current strategy of persuading unaffiliated voters, called no party affiliation voters, or npa's
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for short. to vote for tom kean because of his medicine on reproductive rights. congressman maxwell frost who campaigned for tom kean told us this about that special election victory in january. >> often times in these campaigns there's a tendency to talk about everything, which is important, and tom has positions on every issue, but if you really focusing on the things that people were really thinking about, that's why he won, that's why he won 65-70% of npa's, that's what we're going to take this message in this model that tom had during his campaign, take it statewide and worked on bringing back the state florida. >> journeys now is the florida democratic house leader, fentrice driskell. thank you for being with us this evening. let's talk about these npa's, maxwell frost was talking about tom keen winning 65 to 70% of npa's, how many no party affiliation people are we talking about in florida in terms of a percentage? how big a deal is this? >> wow, it's quite a large
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number. and p.a.s are the largest growing political segment that we have in the state, so it's simply not possible to win an election without them. the good news is that many of them wanted to vote with us, just like they did in a special election. they want candidates who are going to protect the air their freedom in these personal medical decisions. >> the general consultant for the florida house democratic campaign district 35 special election wrote a blog post about the success of the democrats in flipping that seat. republicans have also generously handed us a potent and unique conversation of public a book and social issues that combine into their very own kryptonite. abortion and property insurance. i can scarcely remember a more effective one-two punch for npa's, no party affiliation, and some gop voters. talk to me about that, the evolution in florida into a place that is now going to welcome democrats who come in and say we have a better solution to everything than the
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republicans in the state are touching. >> for too many years, florida has become an incubator for extremism. we've got book bans, the abortion bans, not one but two of them, we've lost the right to teach history accurately, there's a lot going on and people are paying attention. when it comes to the personal medical decision of abortion, really, the republican candidates have disqualified themselves on that because they don't even want to talk about it, but we have democrats who are willing to protect everyone's freedom, and not just democrat freedom, everybody's freedom across the board. you look at the affordability crisis, florida has the highest property insurance rates in the nation. so we're able to disqualify the republicans on abortions and coming with affordability solutions and that is the powerful one-two punch that she was talking about. >> i was talking to marilyn about this in alabama, where the things the republicans are doing in alabama are causing people who consider themselves traditional conservatives, republicans to say it's too much.
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we're not interested in this. tell me about florida and how that's working. was the relationship between people who identify as republicans, but who are prepared to say, we need a different plan, here. >> you can look at the ballot initiative that's going on right now to try to protect access to freedom, reproductive freedom. we refer to it as yes on four, this is an initiative that collected over 1 million petitions from floridians, not just democrats but republicans and npa's. people of florida have spoken clearly in terms of what they want, now we hope that the florida supreme court will listen, we know that every floridian deserves the freedom to be healthy, prosperous, and safe, and that's what we will continue to fight for this november and beyond. >> florida is an interesting place to follow, since the time that barack obama won florida, the politics and the behavior of the politicians has changed a lot. tell me about what the shape of the effort to reclaim florida looks like for democrats.
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is abortion going to be central to that attempt? >> i think abortion will be central to every conversation because it's top of mind for people. we saw what happened in alabama with the ivf decision and folks said, what is happening here? yes, this is the quiet part that they don't want to say out loud, they don't want to just stop that abortion. now they're looking at contraception and other things, it will be central to every conversation, i hope that the florida supreme court listens to the will of the people, that it a look at this ballot language is a simple and elegant and that they approve it and allow floridians to have their voices heard at the ballot box. but yes, absolutely, each of these house races we are going to have to talk about the issues that matter most to voters, we talk about abortion, we talk about affordability especially in the name of property insurance, and that's with the community wants to hear. we have to deliver solutions for them. >> thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you.
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music hall, just across the street from 30 rock where i sit right now, joe biden will participate in a campaign fundraiser unlike any other in the modern political era. in conversation with the nations last two term president, barack obama, but it doesn't stop there. joining them for good measure is former president bill clinton. three american presidents on one states together in front of thousands of people, in a discussion moderated by stephen cole there. leon panetta, who worked for both the obama and clinton administrations, told the associated press, there is everything to be gained by joe biden standing next to bill clinton and barack obama. that picture is worth a of a lot in politics today. the ap report also notes the display of solidarity is a sharp contrast to donald trump's isolation from other republican leaders. the optics here are clear. democrats are united, republicans are not. the biden campaign is leaning into that. the president will also be using this fundraising event
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