do you believe what is happening in gaza is genocide? >> and another term genocide is technical, have a specific to meet the definition, so i rely on experts. but based on my understanding, i'd say yes, the israeli government is trying to read erase this population from this land in gaza but also the treatment of palestinians in the west bank. unfortunately, the current israeli government, the far right wing government of netanyahu is engaged in actions that are really beyond humanitarian law, that violate the laws of war. furthermore, there are is really his hostages are inside cross to -- gaza and the government is not prioritizing them but continuing to drop the bombs. >> i wish we had more time, but we are out of time. thank you so much for being here. we appreciate you speaking out there that's tonight's readout.

>> tonight on all and -- >> they're taking it away, which is outrageous. his one of the best attorneys in the united states, perhaps in history. >> actual justice for an infamous january 6th plotter. >> anybody it is not willing to stand up does not deserve to be in the office. >> tonight, rachel maddow on what happens when the big lie meets the criminal justice system and the growing pressure on the supreme court. >> the american people have a right to see that evidence in the court ought to recognize that. >> colorado secretary of state jenna griswold on the alarming increase in threats after her states effort to remove trump from the ballot. secretary of capitation -- transportation on the collapse in baltimore in the effort to rebuild the bridge. all and starts right now. good evening from new york.

chris hayes here. beginning to see small bits of justice served to the smaller fish members of the trump gang who plotted to overthrow our democracy and today's the effective end of the legal career of trump gang lawyer john eastman who has been recommended for disbarment by the california bar association for his role in the criminal plot. prior to trying to end american democracy, is been actually had a long legal career does masterminds behind donald trump's potential care. specifically the plan to get congress to reject electors in states that joe biden won.

he's been criminally charged in georgia for his role in the plot where he awaits trial. it appears he will lose his license to practice law in the state of california. after a full process including witnesses and testimony, a california judge recommended eastman be disbarred because, quote, the evidence clearly and convincingly proves that eastman and president trump entered into an agreement to obstruct the joint session of congress on january 6th. the judge also added, quote, the scale and degree justness of eastman's unethical actions far surpasses the misconduct at issue. that's a reference to donald sig reddy, former campaign lawyer for richard nixon, best known for coining a theme phrase for political dirty tricks that we cannot repeat on the program. his license was suspended in california following the public revelations of his political sabotage relating to the larger watergate scandal. he ultimately served prison time for his own attempt to

subvert the democratic process. that's not a great comparison for john eastman. on one level, there is something maddening about this. the eastman did everything he could to overthrow the constitutional order and three years later, the only real punishment he receives is at the ripe old age of 63, he may no longer be able to practice law. there is also something revealing about the disbarment hearing, which is that in every single case, i think without exception, when you take what happened during the attempted to and you put it through some process with evidence and testimony, witnesses, that the adjudicative process inevitably determines that something gravely wrong occurred. when it comes to eastman in particular, that's been true for a long time. in fact, two years ago today, a federal judge ruled that eastman could not hide documents from the january 6th committee by setting claims of attorney-client privilege. because of something called the

crime fraud exception which means privilege does not apply when the information in question may have been used in the furtherance of a criminal act. after reviewing the facts and evidence in that case, a judge found, quote, it's more likely than not that president trump and dr. eastman dishonestly conspired to obstruct the joint session congress on january 6, adding that the legality of the plan was obvious. this is not isolated to eastman. not the only layer to be subjugated to sanctions for his role in the queue. powell has already pleaded guilty in the same georgia case. she was also sanctioned in michigan first reading lies about the 2020 election. rudy giuliani also faces charges in the georgia case. he recently filed for

bankruptcy after a judge ruled that he must pay georgia election workers nearly $150 million. 100 $50 million for defaming them with his election loss. his career effectively over. >> the bar association is going to crucify me no matter what your guy will be disbarred in new york. i will be disbarred in washington. it will have nothing to do with anything i did wrong and i consider that something that will help me in heaven for sticking to my principles. >> and not sure -- i don't know what st. peter is up to these days up there but i'm not sure that's going to cash out. it had everything to do with what he did which is why we keep seeing the pattern again in court after court in administrative proceeding after administrative proceeding, the same result and another coup plotter former justice official jeff clarke is currently trying to defend himself from legal sanctions and of the washington, d.c. bar association. also charged in georgia and faces potential disbarment after he tried to have been president trump installed as attorney general in furtherance of the

serving as donald trump's attorney while working as an environmental lawyer at the department of justice. >> in this instance, who was the client? >> i disagree with mr. clark on that. i think the lions is the department of justice and the american people. not necessarily the occupant of the office of president. >> to be clear, that is the whole ball game. that's all of it in a nutshell. do you work for the american people, the system of government or do you work for the one dude? when that didn't work, clark brought in the big gun. congressman matt gates came to testify. he defended the plot to have

trump appointed to replace attorney general bill barr after he resisted efforts to go along with the two. >> when i heard bill barr in public statements assert that there was no fraud and that there was no real need for the department of justice to perform additional labor, when i in fact knew that it was him who was in the way of that. i often complained to my colleagues on the floor of the house including scott perry and others that bill barr couldn't possibly be truthful in what he was saying to the media because he was inhibiting the work that would disprove the statements that he was making potentially. >> barr left with a perfectly lovely note about how great donald trump was rather than go along with the big lie. he was replaced by jeffrey rosen who clark also tried to oust. here's the thing, the footage we played you like a weird -- you are in a zoo meeting in

2020 for hr training. that is the way this is playing out. all of these are unfolding like that at the very furthest margins of public consciousness. in hearings that are live streamed to a few hundred, maybe a few dozen people. mostly cable news producers. but these findings i think can and will help shape public understanding. the reason, and this is really important, there is a different way for these allegations after they are fairly vetted for some kind of open process and fact- finding. it's not just people saying this or people saying that. there is a process. what happened here? is this okay or not? did you violate the standards of ethics necessary to practice law? that is why it is so important to litigate the plot to end american democracy in full public view with all of the

constitutional protections of our system, because so much of the big lie in the ongoing pledge to finish the coup this november rest on the trump campaign operating in an entirely alternate universe of right-wing propaganda. that's a world where the facts don't matter. people are fed the same lies about the stolen election over and over again. for people who aren't paying attention, the majority of america who are getting all of this information secondhand, like someone saying something on social media. it's very easy for the truth, both factual and moral about what happened in the lead up to january 6th two receipt in the background. that's why a public trial of trump is so important before the election. with the justices in the supreme court, i suspect doing what they can to prevent the child from happening. they know perfectly well if he

is so directed to the same process where you have to sit in front of a jury and make an argument, call witnesses under actual evidence, he would be no better off than john eastman is today. i'm joined now by rachel maddow, host of the rachel maddow show. during monday's right here on msnbc. i thought of you when i saw the sig ready shout out. huge water needed -- watergate nerd. the other things that makes me

chuckle morbidly, a bunch of people went to prison. they did not just get disbarred. there were also criminal consequences. >> thank you for pointing that out and putting it right next to the way in which the segretti case was name checked in the john eastman recommendation . the way segretti was brought up was oh, by the way, what john eastman did was way worse than what donald segretti did and segretti, of course, went to prison. john eastman may yet go to prison. wish you trump lawyers here. giuliani with his license suspended. i still don't understand what happened to the federal investigation of rudy giuliani and how exactly that went away. there are still unanswered questions there. he is not currently a defendant anywhere. he is just facing a defamation judgment and likely suspended. his got the recommendation that he is likely disbarred leg right now. sidney powell, jenna ellis have pleaded guilty. we've got all of them. stephanie lambert in michigan just got arrested last week. one of the takeaways from this is that the

bar association was put up as an institution and said we are going to do our part in this. >> what was so insidious was the panel for chaz roe and eastman. and powell who was doing pr more than actual law. what they said was colorable legal claims. jeffrey clark, as well. they were trying to cloak all of this in the language not of open insurrection against the united states of america or an attempt to topple democracy which is what they were trying to do but procedural mechanics

about all of this. in that respect, it strikes me as very important. the bar association is saying these arguments are not just arguments of the margin that is sort of interesting. they are not doing well. they're doing something else that violates the ethical duty you have is a lawyer. >> people who study the way that democracies turn into authoritarian systems of government in policing essentially what you are allowed to do and saying good standing. so like when we talked about -- or i have been obsessed with the american fascist and would- be fascist leaders in the

1930s. the catholic church ended up being really, really important. they did a lot of things that were bad after and during world war ii. they also took child cauldron off the air when he was organizing his and listers in america and to paramilitary cells and telling them to prepare for violent revolution against the u.s. government through the church came in and took him off the air. george fant on moseley storm in the country is the deputy chief of staff. the u.s. army came in and said we will take your pension if you keep talking about this. he decided he would keep the money and ditch the dictatorship. institutions of all different kinds are called upon in different ways to do this. the bar association has been a concerted effort within the legal profession to say not in our name and not with our skills and not with our profession. >> there is institutional

aspect in civil society holding up of the bar association. last night we talked about gary lake and the fact that she is waving the white flag on the defamation suit filed against her lies that she told about her own loss in 2022. you know, the big lie two. her own knockoff sequel that was ridiculous and likely not as violent. i think people think that the liberals want donald trump to be tried for this retribution. the thing that is most important to me is like the epidemic aspect which is that we don't in this country have a lot of mechanisms to focus people on establishing consensus fact. the january 6th committee did that to some point, but it was tarnished in lots of ways. what is striking is that in the defamation cases that we've seen or other adjudicative

processes, when you get into that realm, there is nothing there. the facts are plain as day. the intentions are plain as day. this is why i feel it's so important. not even about retribution or justice or accountability. it's actually just establishing what happened. >> yes. and part of it, because you know, part of me is forever 8 years old and constantly needs to be entertained. part of it is the hilarity of it. in the disbarment trial, one of the things we learned from the senior justice official in the trial is that jeff clarke's beliefs about what was going on in the election was tied to his fantasy that smart thermostats had won the election. like okay, i want to learn more about that. please give me all of that. i want to hear it. but the more serious point is that you are exactly right the

criminal justice system makes evidence public. it test evidence. it tests fax. it is an adversarial fair process. when you lie, your lie is exposed and that's inadmissible or it is punished. pouting does not count. yelling does not count. threats are illegal. it's a compulsory process and the truth is proven in a fair way that everybody can see. you get to put your best foot forward. you get to make your best case. with joke lawyers or real lawyers if you can afford them. that process is something that can prove reality. it can bring earth one and earth to crashing together in a way that really makes all the missed lose its power. it exposes things in a way that's unimpeachable. >> we've seen small versions of that time and time again in all of these different areas. not the big one yet. what a pleasure to have you this evening. thank you very much for taking the time out of your evening.

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directing my team to move heaven and earth to rebuild the bridge as soon as humanly possible. we will work with our orders in congress to make sure the state it's the support it needs. it's my intention that the federal government will of the eastern seaboard. the bridge collapse was a disaster. the federal government is due backstop after that. >> one of public and are

debarking at the idea of using federal funds to rebuild this important piece of infrastructure. >> congress going to need to pony up more money or is there enough money in the infrastructure package? >> it's great to be with you, maria. it was that way immediately for biden, expressing this tragedy in the idea that he's going to use federal funds to pay for it in its entirety. >> standard for a certain type of republican like podcast or ted cruz voting against emergency relief after super storms and he. only to come with hat in hand to claim federal money from texas. and again for the power grid disaster and in 2020 for the hyatt of the coven emergency, trump boasted about not providing support to governors who did not support him. once again seeing

few steps of what this looks like? >> the ntsb is leading the investigation in partnership with the coast guard and a number of agencies involved. they are going to the black box, looking at everything that could be relevant to understanding causes. they work independently from us by design grid we are doing everything we can to help with their effort. our focus as a department is making sure that we prepare for what is next, which means getting the bridge rebuilt in dealing with all the traffic disruptions until it is great getting the port reopened and dealing with all of the supply chain disruptions until that happens. right now there are three heavylift vessels on the way to the site that should begin

arriving tomorrow and the last of them should be in place a couple of days after that. to begin with the process of getting the wreckage cleared, you've got to understand the bridge there. that's the only channel into most of the port of baltimore. of course a very important port for the east coast. we have to make sure we get that clear, safe and responsible way so the port can get back up and running. then there's

funds that got announced i guess there is a pot of money for the immediate aftermath of disasters. in terms of the actual transportation logistics here, it strikes me as an enormous problem do not have the bridge in terms of the hazardous materials from the port, as well. you have a game plan for how to deal with that? >> yeah. we've been working side-by-side with the maryland d.o.t. under the leadership of governor westmore as they've been putting together their plans to do the design and the procurement for the new bridge and everything it takes to get the port back up and running. if you know this is an important thoroughfare, 30,000 vehicles a day counted on the bridge. there are alternatives. 95 and 895, those are both tunnels not suitable for hazardous material transportation, at least most of the time. part of what makes this complicated in the meantime.

these are some of the things that the funds can help with and certainly clearing that channel. these can go to demolition, debris removal, they can go to supporting some of the cost associated with detours as well as the early spending on the design and procurement of new bridge. believe it or not even though the original bridge to five years to construct, they've already had meetings and sessions beginning yesterday to launch the procurement process just to get it back up. >> that was my next question. just looking at the bridge it looks like an expensive, difficult to build bridge. i know nothing about bridges, but to my amateur riots along expanse that also has to be built so that ships can pass in and out underneath it. this is not a trivial undertaking. what is the timeline and the cost like and are you worried at all from the words we heard from the republican congressman today that this house republican majority is not going to be interested in providing the funding?

>> this really needs to be a bipartisan priority. anybody who views it as otherwise and i'm hoping they will recant better. it would be your district that is the next one to be struck a tragedy. we always do better when america comes together. let me give you one example of the situation that happened in the past and in 2007, many were killed and injured when the i- 35 bridge collapsed in minnesota. that was not because of a ship strike or a truck strike. in that case it was not going over the bay the way the bridge in baltimore is. what it had in common was a sudden and catastrophic collapse. in the end about 250 billion dollars of federal funds were brought together. that's something that passed very quickly and rather easily. i would like to believe we can get that done now, too. to be clear, things like the 60 million that we put forward today, we already got that

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overseeing civil cases to harassment of ordinary election workers. it not all that surprising unfortunately that colorado secretary of state jennifer griswold who tried to bar trump from the states ballot under the 14th amendment has seen a serious increase in threats against her and her family. escalating abuse and violence threats based on data received from griswold's office including an email declaring, quote, we are coming for your divorce medicine, quote, i hope you -- die. i hope your -- family dies. now here's jennifer griswold, secretary of state in colorado. good to have you here. i'm sorry this is happening to you. one thing i want to do is set a baseline because people in the public eye probably get a lot of people angry at them at different times. that's part of being a public representative. people get angry at you. that's part of democracy. then there's something different which is threats and serious threats. then to describe to someone in the public eye who has held office, what does it mean to have this difference? the before and after of your participation in this process

around the 14th amendment? >> first off, thanks for having me. it's always great to see you. i think to take a step back, the threat atmosphere really changed after the insurrection. that's when i started to receive death threats. death threats are not just like oh, i'm upset at your policy. they are threats to your life. since september when this case was filed by voters in colorado, we saw a huge uptick. these are people telling me in very explicit terms how they are going to kill me, hang me, rape me, kill my family, torture me, based on misinformation and lies. >> what do you do about it ? >> well, you know, first off, you have to take it seriously. unfortunately, donald trump and

the maga right, this is part of their new playbook. undermine confidence in election, past voter suppression, try to intimidate people out of positions like me so you can try to tilt elections. and the threat, you know, they very likely are not all serious. it only takes one person. and i will tell you. the hardest part of my job over the last six years as secretary of straight is the threat atmosphere and ensuring that there is adequate security around me. but another thing that you have to do is just continue on. there is's famous quote that is something along the lines of --

courage does not mean that you are not afraid. courage means that you do not let fear stop you. i have never been intimidated or stop serving the people of colorado are protect in the right to vote because of these threats and i never will. >> is also sort of a logistical and psychological toll to this. i say this on a day when the ex- president has on his social media network posted the name of the daughter of the judge in his criminal trial. the daughter of the judge has nothing to do with it. she is exempted, not in rooted in the gag order issued by the judge but he is targeting her. it does change your life. let's say nothing bad happened. let's hope that's the case. and most of these are people who are angry or not going to do anything. even in the best case scenario, it tangibly changes the conditions under which you are working and what your actual life is like in ways that are in housing some kind of cost or tax on the recipients of the crowd. >> absolutely. no, it is something that you have to take really seriously. if somebody tells you over and over and over how they are

going to cut a rope and hang you from a tree, you have to take that seriously. you're right rated has led to real changes outside of just the fact that folks like me have to live like this. election workers have stepped down and said that -- since 2021, they're afraid. colorado has lost 38% of our elected county clerks. they decided to move on or retire since 2020. >> wait a second, is that normal turnover or is that much higher? >> it is much higher. these threats have a toll on

election workers. and i will tell you, they have a toll on the people who work in my office. they see the threat, they also hear them as folks: to our phone line. they are screamed out. these are civil servants who are trying to serve coloradans and uphold our democracy. that's the entire purpose of the threat. try to scare people out of their job. i won't be intimidated. with that said, state and federal officials need to take this more seriously. there's so many times when secretaries of state like me are told that threats against us aren't serious and we don't deserve adequate security.

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after a growing rift and heated words between the prime minister of israel and president biden, the government of israel is sending a delegation to the united states for talks on a possible military operation in rafah. he canceled the same trip by the israeli delegation in anger after the u.s. refused to veto a resolution calling for a cease-fire in gaza and a release of the hostages coming as new polling from gallup finds for what appears to be the first time a majority of americans, 55% disapprove of

the action in gaza up from 45% in november. it is now six months into the war after the attack on israel that killed about 1200 men, women and children and there are more than 32,000 palestinians in gaza who have died and two thirds women and children and about 100 israeli hostages believed to be in captivity although it is hard to know how they are faring. today the international court of justice ordered israel to take necessary and effective measures to assure the unhindered provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance including food, water, and electricity and palestinians in gaza are no longer facing only the risk of famine but that famine is setting in. we have president and ceo of save the children, one of the organizations working in gaza. she literally flew back from a trip from rafah in gaza and she just came from the airport.

i thank you for being here. the last time you were on the egyptian side of the border and this time you are able to get into gaza and what did you see? >> thank you, first and foremost and people are literally everywhere. people, children, are everywhere and running across the streets and jumping on cars with tents everywhere and we are talking about sheets of plastic and wooden poles, et cetera. the whole of rafah of 300,000 before now has about one port -- 1.5 million people. >> stick with people. >> yes. hard to move around in cars and you have to make sure you don't hit kids caring stuff that people are trying to sort of survive with in the middle of all of that rubble. >> even if you took away the distinct situation that gaza is

in which is the borders are controlled by the israeli defense forces, if you are just in an american city of 300,000 people with 1.5 million, you would create stress in all of the parts of the infrastructure of that city. i imagine a lot of desperation around the basics of how people function here. >> it is unbelievable and it doesn't even begin to describe it. i met a community here and i saw a distribution of kids in rafah and we went to a community displaced three times and another close to the beach north of rafah about one third of the way up and the women had come from the north of rafah who were displaced early in october and they walked here and then they were displaced twice again walking all the time with only the clothes on

their backs and their children and they are now in this tent community. they were telling us that the one bathroom they share with 600 people in that community. >> 600? >> one bathroom and it was going straight out onto the beach so solid waste disposal. a >> it must be like this everywhere. >> yes. it is incredibly dangerous for public health. so they spend hours in line to go to the bathroom and then they have to stand in the line to get water for their children and the kids that i saw there, most all of them had bare feet no shoes and were hungry and i think all of them had something either a respiratory illness

with a lot of coughing and rashes and the children have diarrhea because they aren't drinking clean water. it is absolutely a humanitarian catastrophe of epic proportions. >> what are your staff saying about the ability to get aid into the area and get the medicine are provisions or even antibiotics. >> everything. painkillers. everything. when i was there in january, it was bad with only 140 trucks per day getting in and everybody is now an expert on truck numbers. february was worse because it dropped down and now we see a little bit of an uptick and it is still woefully inadequate but nowhere near 300 trucks let alone 500 trucks and there is extra need now. it was the day before it was there they managed to get seven

trucks into the north and much needed and they stopped sending stuff there before because of the dangers and risks and that distribution happened later on to make sure all of the people who needed it had it and it was distributed. we were happy to see that. hopefully, we can do more. we would like to see 40 trucks per day get into the north and seven is still a drop in the ocean but one of the bottlenecks there is the number of truck drivers authorized to go into the north is inadequate. they gave 78 names and we have 14 drivers that are actually authorized to go and so that cut in and of itself, creates an impediment. >> there are a lot of dials to turn. so she is just back from gaza from rafah. thank you very much. that is all in and good evening, alex. >> we are