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in russia, evan gershkovich being held in russia. the number killed in gaza and those held around the world. it was an important message. how sacred this night is to the press send a healthy democracy. i can't thank you enough. thank you for making time for th us. looking for any opportunity -- s if you have one, please, if you have any opportunities for do you know, get in touch with him. i will see you again tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern. have a great anight, everyone. k and a gun to my head. i shoved my purse into his chest. and i said, jesus, save me. there was a man with his t arm around my neck and a gun to my head. i showed my purse into his chest and i said jesus, save
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me. the bullet shot me in the head and it went down. >> lord jesus, help me. oh, my god. >> it came out of nowhere, a sweet stay-at-home mom from a strong family of faith shot point blank at her own garage door. >> my dad's collapsed on the ground. >> it was very traumatic to see. a very emotional time. >> her survival seemed like a miracle. >> i did not know if i would live. >> was this awful random crime or did someone want her dead? that was mistry number 1. someone was out there. >> we were scared. >> a secret 1600 miles away. >> there were several text messages. >> slowly snowballing. >> it was a punch in the gut. >> mystery number 3? who would
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they turn out to be. >> what did this lady do? >> fate, temptation, and a twist the size of texas. >> let's be very clear. justice needs to be served. i don't think it has been. go to buy their dreams. carrollton, texas, just north of dallas is a kind of plays with the upwardly mobile go to by their dreams. the schools are good. golf courses.the landscape, and churches are more ubiquitous than starbucks. >> there's not a lot of violent crime in that area. it's a great area to raise kids and a family. >> travel least 100 miles or so and you enter the piney woods of east texas. jobs are not as plentiful here. dreams are deferred and some keep bail bondsman on speed dial. >> the people we are dealing with here are poor. a lot of drugs.
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a lot of methamphetamine out there. >> different cultures worlds apart and yet one summer, those two worlds collided in a most unlikely way. this is a story of that summer when money seemed to fall-like tickertape on the piney woods. and influent carrollton family experienced the, violent crime that always happened somewhere else. >> god, help me. >> yes, ma'am. >> i need you to call me immediately. your mom is in the hospital with a gunshot wound and i'm like, what? >> we look at each other and we say we cannot make this up. >> our story begins in august 2012. >> can you believe it? 100 degrees again this afternoon. >> it was a kind of heat that melts asphalt and has everyone searching the sky for some sign
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of mercy. in carrollton, 52-year-old frank howard was a sweating it. frank was an accountant. life was good and getting better by the day. >> i took on a new client, probably in 2009. >> very wealthy? >> yes. >> what came along with that? the perks? >> the wealthy client had his own airplanes and for the first time, probably, flying around in private planes. going to cowboy games. >> as they say in texas, frank howard was standing in high cotton. >> i was still the same guy but doing fun things as well. >> frank could come a long way since his days as a preacher's son growing up in south texas. >> conservative upbringing. no drinking or cussing or i've never been to the dance. the school prom, never did that kind of stuff but at the same time wanting to be down to earth.
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very honest and tried to be the best person you can be. >> solid values to last a lifetime, but it wasn't all smooth sailing. in college, frank had a brief marriage that ended in divorce. eventually, he fell in love with a girl from his church. her name was nancy shore. a brunette with dazzling blue eyes. >> it was a great time. i look back at that and think it was a good time. >> frank's father married the happy couple and two years later they had their first child, a daughter they named ashley. that was not an easy birth. >> no. >> there were problems. >> there were complications. she spent the first 10 days of her life in the neonatal unit of the hospital. >> it was a close call and one that seemed to deepen and enrich their faith. soon, the family group to
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include a son and another daughter. >> growing up was great. i had a wonderful older sister and older brother who helped guide me through stuff. obviously, a wonderful mom and dad. >> ashley said whatever the howard family did, they did together. >> both our parents did choir in church. when they needed a family, oh, get the howards, they will come and bring the kids. >> we were always together and always a family. we went all their events. they were always busy and doing something. whether soccer and anything in the fine arts, musically. >> you almost sound like leave it to beaver. >> we joke that we were the beavers. >> we would have game nights. >> by 2012, those days were
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gone. frank and nancy were now empty nesters. ashley and her brother jay were married and on the run and breanna was in college in nashville. you were so close with your kids. was hard as one by one they started leaving the nest and going to college? >> it was. i am proud of them but it was difficult. change is difficult. >> nancy was often home alone. frank's work with his new client, wealthy defense contractor, had him traveling to florida, california, and even kuwait. >> there was a little more freedom or whatever. like i said, a lot of it was work. i was out there trying to build it in. she was sitting at home. >> still, nancy had her faith in church activities to fill the empty hours. in fact, that's where she had
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been the evening everything changed for the howard family. it was a saturday night, august 18, 2012. you are out of town. >> yes. >> you got a call that something horrific has happened to nancy. there's been a robbery at your house? >> yes. i was beside myself. i did not know what was happening. >> and so began one of the longest nights of frank howard's life. coming up, a harrowing cry for help. terror was at the door. >> i'm like, our mother? that doesn't make sense. like it was not real. >> when dateline continues. . but trelegy has shown me that there's still beauty and breath to be had. because with three medicines in one inhaler,
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carrollton, texas. shortly before 8:00 that evening, the sound of a gunshot split the night. 911 operator picked up the phone and heard a woman's anguished cry. >> lord jesus, help me. oh, my god. help me. >> the woman said she had just been shot in the head by an intruder in her garage. >> i've been shot. please help me. >> the caller was frank's wife, nancy howard. she somehow managed to drag herself in the house and despite taken a bullet to the head, she was able to get critical details to the 911 dispatcher. >> how many people was a? >> it was just one. >> oh, yes, ma'am, i will stay on the phone. >> a few minutes later police officers arrived at the home. remarkable as this sounds,
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nancy managed to open the front door for them. >> it's the police? >> yes, ma'am. >> help me. help me. help me. >> soon, the carrollton police detectives michael and brian were on the case. >> it's incredible how she was able to give the information to the dispatcher what happened. to be able to wait for the police at the front door. >> this was a bloody crime scene. >> there was quite a bit the blood. >> there was a small hole above her left eye and she was struggling for breath and her vital signs were slipping. as paramedics rushed her to the hospital in dallas, the detective turned his attention to the crime scene. >> you could see where she had gone through the house. >> the garage in the hallway leading to the house were bloody. the rest of the house appeared to have been untouched. >> the suspects had taken nancy's purse. >> did you have any reason to believe this was anything other than a burglary combat? >> we had no reason to suspect
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it was nothing further than aggravated robbery. >> what details did you get from the 911 call specifically? >> she was able to give a suspect description of the person or shot her. white male wearing a black hat and he was in his 20s. >> police officers could find no one in the neighborhood would seen or heard anything. >> it had been raining significantly. when it rains, people are inside. there is no witnesses and we basically had nothing to go one. >> no witnesses and precious little in the way of lease. they wondered if the shooting was part of a pattern of crimes in the area. it seemed unlikely, but they could not rule it out. there had been some break-ins in the area? >> there were some break-ins we were looking at to see if it was related. at this point, we were checking out everything to see if there was anything that may be related to this. >> there had not been any robberies are robbed at gunpoint
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for their property. >> the cops knew they had to notify nancy's family but her husband was out of town. a police officer who belong to the howards church got word to their oldest daughter, ashley. >> a close friend of my mom saying your mom is in the hospital with a gunshot wound. i'm like, i'm sorry, what? >> that must be the most bizarre phone call. >> it was and even scary or worrisome but so -- we couldn't cross the hurdle of where she could have been to get shot. >> almost like it wasn't real? >> yeah, it wasn't real. our mother? she's not the type of lady who would get shot. >> ashley finally reached her father in california with the news. >> i was in south lake tahoe at the casino and i was taking a break. and i noticed i missed a call from my daughter. so, i stepped outside and called her back.
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that's when i found out that something had happened. >> how does he react to the situation? >> he couldn't speak. he couldn't breathe. dad, who is with you because you're not -- he said i'm going to drive to the airport. no, get someone to take you. >> i was crying and going crazy. i was on the phone trying to find flights out and trying to figure out what to do and how to do it and when to do it. >> 6:00 the next morning before frank howard could finally board a plane heading home. he could only imagine the nightmare that awaited him once he landed in texas. >> coming up. >> my dad is collapsed on the ground. he was in terrible shape. >> as doctors race to save nancy, her family raises to her side. who could be behind this? >> we are trying to figure out what happened and how it happened. we didn't have any idea. >> someone was out there. >> yeah.
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frank howard arrived home in dallas the morning after his wife was shot. his daughter, ashley, says he looked awful when she finally saw him. frank howard arrived home in dallas the morning after his wife was shot. his daughter ashley says he looked awful when she finally saw him. they drove to the hospital together and by the time they got there, he could hardly walk. >> i hear this crash and i look back and my dad is collapsed on the ground. he was in terrible shape. every time the monitors would be, he was jumpy. just terrible shape. >> was he in tears? >> yeah. >> tell me what happened the first time you saw nancy in icu? >> it was difficult because she was drugged up but all the family, a lot of people from the church and stop were there. >> doctors told the family the bullet had entered nancy's
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skull above her left eye and travel down through her sinuses and throat before collapsed one of her lungs. she had already had the first of many surgeries. she would lose one of her blue eyes, but she seemed to escape serious brain damage. >> there are tubes and wires and lines. even though you can say she is all right, it's like, it doesn't look like she's all right. there is swelling and inflammation. things attached to her feet. it is hard to feel like, this is okay and this is right. >> it was very traumatic to see that happen to her. very difficult. very emotional time. >> was she able to talk to you the first time you saw her? >> i don't believe so. she had tubes in her throat. she was conscious, and so she had knowledge of who we were, but she really couldn't talk or anything. >> while the family waited for some definitive word from the
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police on what happened, they filled the void with areas of the room. >> everybody in the family were sitting around talking about it. we were trying to figure out what happened and how it happened. we didn't have any idea. >> someone was out there. >> yeah, we were scared. >> there have been break-ins in the area? did that cross your mind? >> that was one of the things that was in our mind. the detective told us there have been break-ins. they had somebody who fit the general description that he was someone they knew of that had participated in some break-ins in the area. >> the detectives were eager to talk to nancy. >> she's our only witness. we had the minimal suspect description at this time. we felt it was important to confirm those details as soon as possible. >> while they waited for nancy to get well enough to speak, the called in frank, hoping he
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could fill in some of the blanks. >> he had confirmed she lost her left eye. >> no brain damage. she will lose her left eye check. but, from there it will be or cosmetic stuff. >> the detective asked if frank knew anyone who might want to hurt his wife. >> it doesn't seem like she would have -- >> in fact, everyone knew nancy had a soft spot for anyone with a sob story. ual, he said, for her to pick up a hitchhiker or open her door to a stranger. >> it was not unusual, he said, for her to pick up a hitchhiker open the door to a stranger.
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a month or two earlier, she had done that. she just said that she would try to help them find a hotel room. andrea canning: maybe that's what happened-- a good-hearted woman befriended a dangerous stranger. >> maybe that's what happened? a goodhearted woman befriended a dangerous stranger. the how her children thought that was a distinct possibility. >> that was my first thought is she probably was willing to help someone at some point and they figured out, this woman is an easy target. >> could your mom be naove when it came to these people and this helping nature? >> definitely. i think sometimes her willingness to see the good in everybody, it opened her up to more risk than most other people would take.
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>> frank didn't know much because he was out of town that night. >> it doesn't sound like frank is able to help. >> he was being cooperative and confirms he sent a few texts and emails back and forth to nancy. she was going to church service. to confirm that, i asked if i could see his cell phone. >> would you have a problem if we ran analysis? >> in addition to turning over cell phone, frank told the cops to let him know if they needed anything from him. he even offered money to generate leads. >> i mean, if there's -- you put up a reward or anything like that. >> again. >> whatever. >> that's another stop. >> i'm just saying. >> obviously, money can prompt people. >> at the hospital, doctors are optimistic about nancy's condition.
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she was in intensive care but making progress. there is every reason to believe she would be able to tell her own story in a day or two. >> coming up. >> i showed my purse into his chest and said jesus save me. >> nancy's dramatic story, what she remembered about that night. >> i did looked him in the face and in the eyes. no pd. no emotion. he looked intent on doing what he came to do. >> when dateline continues. ti even a little blurry vision can distort things. and something serious may be behind those itchy eyes. up to 50% of people with graves' could develop a different condition called thyroid eye disease, which should be treated by a different doctor. see an expert. find a t-e-d eye specialist at isitted.com
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>> her recovery was speedy. days after she was shot in the head at close range, she was able to get out of bed, take a few steps, best of all, the breathing tube was removed. the howard family rejoiced. finally, nancy could speak. do you consider it a miracle? >> absolutely. there is no explanation except my heavenly father was there. >> what did you say when she finally was able to speak? >> it was just, i love you and glad you are here. that was the sense we we are both saying to each other. >> then it was time for business. that he texas wanted to know every last detail of that night. it began at nancy's church. >> i had a plan to go to church that evening to see one of my little children that i have known since she was born and
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she was being baptized that night at church. >> surveillance cameras caught her car pulling in the parking lot. >> service, i got my picture with her family. it was a special time. and then, i walked on out. i got in my car and started heading home. >> it was 7:26 when nancy pulled out of the church parking lot. on the way home, she picked up dinner. her receipt shows 7:32 when she paid for the meal. >> i drove in my driveway. lifted the garage door as i usually do, droving, got out of my car. got up to the door and did not hear anything. suddenly, there was a man without arm around my neck and gun to my head, demanding my purse. >> what's that feeling like? >> it didn't register what was going on. so much so that i guess i did not have quite enough fear. i don't know.
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i wrestled away from him and turned and faced him, and realized, this is for real. this guy has a gun. robbing me. he demanded again my purse. i had my purse on the shoulder and my taco bueno bag and i gave him my taco bueno bag. i bet that guy was thinking, what does this woman doing? giving me her supper? she doesn't get it. and so, finally, the third time, he demanded with expletives, my purse, and i finally caught on. i reached off and i was standing close enough to him to have arms length to shove my purse into his chest. i showed my person to his chest and said jesus, save me.
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the bullet shot me in the head and i went down. >> nancy doesn't know how long she lay unconscious on the garage floor. when she came to, the shooter was gone, and she said she was not alone. >> i began to come to, and i think you've been shot. you are going to die. and then, there was another voice and it was the voice of my heavenly father who is more powerful than a speeding bullet. he said, get up. get up. >> how much pain are you in? >> i am in excruciating pain, but it's more the pain of not getting a breath and knowing i was simply gurgling and spitting up blood the whole time. barely able to breathe, trying to have those strength. i ended up really crawling. >> nancy knew she needed help
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fast. her cell phone was gone. it had been in her purse and that had been stolen. she crawled into her car in hopes of activating the emergency response system. she could not get it to work. amazingly, she got to her feet and walked into the house. >> i was able to turn off the house alarm. the presence of mind to come up with the numbers. that's only a god thing. i had been shot in the head. >> she went to the nearest bathroom. when she turned on the light, she saw a horror looking bad at her in the mirror. that's when she called 911. >> tell me what happened. >> did you think you could die at that point? >> i did not know if i would live. >> what's the address? >> i said please don't leave me. she said i will stay here with you until they come.
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because, anyone who is fighting for their life, and has called 911, knows they could die. they do not want to die alone and i wanted to live. >> three days later, nancy was able to give police a more detailed description of the man who shot her. >> he had a strong chin. he had facial hair. he was wearing dark rimmed glasses. a dark baseball cap. >> could you see his eyes? >> i did look him in the face and in the eyes. i do not know how to describe how that felt. >> did he looked blank, evil? >> he looked intent on doing what he came to do. i would say he certainly had no pity know we motion of doing to some homemaker what he was doing. >> the detectives now had
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something to work with. there investigation developed a new and surprising twist. they discovered the cell phone frank had handed over contained some jaw-dropping information. turns out, frank had been keeping a secret. >> coming up. >> that was the red flag when looking at everything. >> soon, the secret would come tumbling out to everyone he loved. >> my dad actually called me at work and said, i've got to tell you something. >> that's a hard thing to hear. e to severe plaque psoriasis or active psoriatic arthritis, symptoms can sometimes take you out of the moment. now there's skyrizi, so you can show up with clearer skin... ...and show it off. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ with skyrizi, you could take each step with 90% clearer skin. and if you have psoriatic arthritis, skyrizi
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we ran analysis test >> they realized frank was not the devoted husband he appeared to be. nancy's husband had been having an affair. >> we noticed on a cell phone there were several text messages to a contact that was identified as s tahoe sale. it was clear from the content of the messages that frank was involved in extramarital affair. >> there was more. photos the showed frank with the other woman. >> there were photos on his phone of frank and his female that we believe to be the person sending those text messages back and forth with frank. >> the detectives as the fbi to fennimore about his mistress. they learned she was a 40- something mother of two teenage daughters. her name, suzanne. >> we were able to speak with suzanne and confirm that frank was in fact with her on the
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night nancy was shot. he had originally told us he was in california on business. >> it was a big red flag when looking at everything. we have to take a harder look at frank and what's going on. he didn't mention anything about this mistress. >> the detectives wanted to know frank had any more secrets they should know about. they decided to interview his children. >> we had no idea that they were looking at my dad so seriously until we got in the room and think kept hounding and hounding on my dad. it was like, this line of questioning is concerning. >> it told me something was not right and before you talk to anymore, and you need to talk to a lawyer. >> why would they say that? >> because they have seen shows like dateline nbc and that's what they tell you to do. they always suspect the husband
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so get a lawyer. >> although frank said at the time he didn't think innocent people needed lawyers. he hired one anyway. he had a heart-to-heart with each of the kids. >> my dad actually called me at work and said, i've got to tell you something. he said, the reason they're looking at me so closely as i have been having an affair. i was like, dad, come on. don't have affairs. >> that's a hard thing to hear. >> it's a punch in the gut. this is not what supposed to happen. >> you were the cleavers. >> yeah, we were the cleavers. this is not a good situation. >> there's never a good time to get caught cheating but getting caught by police when your wife is recovering from a gunshot went to the head has to rank as one of the worst. now frank had to tell his family embarrassing details about his other life. one he had been living in california with his mistress,
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suzanne. how did you meet her? >> we found each other basically playing at the gambling table one night. that's what started it. >> there was an attraction you could not fight? >> i fell in love with her. >> for his part, frank said he was not trying to hide anything from police. >> i knew there was evidence of the affair and i felt like it would be difficult, but i felt nancy and i could somehow work through that. >> did you think, the police will find this information. should i just tell them? >> i didn't think it was relevant to what happened to nancy. i didn't think that way. it never dawned on me to make that connection. >> frank knew he had to tell nancy about the affair before the police did. because he was now considered a suspect, the cops asked the hospital to keep away from nancy. now, one of the most delicate conversations in their married
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life had to happen on the phone. >> he was just broken apart. broken apart, weeping. to the point i almost couldn't understand him. >> a lot of crying. a lot of apologizing and telling her i am sorry about the affair, and i'm going to make it right. i will do what i can do. >> was that a bombshell for you? >> i was dumbfounded, really. i was dumbfounded. i was like, really? i think there was a side of me that i did not believe it. >> never did she think of frank as a philandering type, but in hindsight, she felt the relationship changed in 2009. they are frank went to work for the rich client, the defense
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contractor. he had made millions during the iraq war, tracking supplies to the troops. he made frank his chief financial officer, and soon, nancy began noticing changes at home. >> he had increased dark lifestyle a bit. we were able to do more things. it did begin to interfere. with the marriage. >> how did it change your marriage? how did it make it more difficult? >> there was a lot of travel and we became empty nesters that your. i really missed my kids and i think he missed the kids. i think he had his work to help fill that void. >> nancy says once frank even ditched her in new year's eve so he could be with his new business associates. >> i just blew a gasket. >> you were on the back burner at this point. >> absolutely. and i said, okay, i am going into counseling.
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if we don't go into counseling, we would lose the marriage. >> did he agree? >> he went for a little while and determined to he didn't feel it was doing any good. >> as she recovered in the hospital, it was obvious to nancy why frank had not been interested in saving their marriage. her husband was in love with somebody else. >> i said, where did you meet her? he told me. i said, how long has it been? he told me. >> three years, frank told her. three years of lighting. three years of living a double life. one in texas. one in california. frank was not proud of it. you are a preacher's son. you know better than that. >> it was very wrong and i know it now. i knew it then and going through it, it was trying to figure out how to deal with the. >> while most men try to keep
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indiscretions quiet, his dirty laundry was part of a criminal investigation. the detectives say they were determined to keep an opened mine. >> i think i told michael, let's not get tunnel vision just because he's got a girlfriend. let's make sure we look outside and not just key on that as a possible motive or reason for the shooting. >> so the detectives went back to work, examining every piece of evidence they had. turns out the church surveillance camera would take the investigation in a new direction. >> coming up. >> the video showed nancy arriving at the church. as she's pulling in the parking lot, there is a silver vehicle following behind her. >> has someone been stalking nancy? >> she's not a random target. there's something else going on.
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detectives wall and turner were following all leads
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in their investigation into nancy howard's shooting, detectives were following all leads in their investigation into nancy howard's shooting. evaluating and reevaluating ever new scrap and tidbit that came their way. take nancy's purse and its contents. after the shooting, they had her cell phone tracked and quickly discovered her purse in a nearby dumpster. >> there was $11.10 inside the purse. the cell phone and keys. it appears as though all the contents were still there. >> what really caught their attention was the fact that her drivers license seem to have been removed and cast aside. >> that was the only item taken from the purse. it was at that point i became suspicious. >> if the shooter did not want nancy's money and credit cards, maybe he plant to kill her. why was the driver's license found separate from the wall of? >> i believe and i think you would agree, they build out the
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driver's license to make sure they got nancy howard and confirmed it with the driver's license. >> working on hunt she had been marked for death, the detectives decided to take a closer look at the video from the security cameras at her church. >> the video showed nancy arriving at the church. as she's pulling in the parking lot, there is a silver vehicle following behind her. she drives to the south side of the church and parks. the silver vehicle parks three spots away from her. >> could you make out the license plates are the people in the vehicle? >> the video wasn't clear enough for us to see the license plate. you could tell there were two occupants. a driver and passenger in the front seat. >> shortly after nancy enters the church, the silver car drives away, but returns just before the service ends. a big moment in the case. the church cameras catch a glimpse of a possible suspect. >> the driver exits the vehicle
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and enters the church to use the restroom. he was wearing a hat and it was brought down partially covering his face. the driver comes out and gets in the silver vehicle. as nancy leaves the church service and gets in the car, she backs out and leaves the parking lot and the vehicle fathers are -- follows her out of the parking lot. >> is it clear now nancy is a target? >> oh, yeah. it was clear. they came back to the church to wait for her to leave. >> it was an exciting moment because we got a lead now. it appears she's not a random target and something else is going on. >> something else and he. a fellow cop talked about a routine traffic spot -- stop payment before that now seemed significant. it was in the early mornings hours the carrollton police officer stopped a car about one mile from the howard home.
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>> so, how long have you been in carrollton tonight? >> we have been trying to buy a's house for two, three, four hours. >> the reason i ask is i saw you earlier. i see you again. >> we were going in circles. >> there were two men in the car. 100 miles from their homes in east texas. >> could you step out of the car. >> the driver was a 19-year- old. according to police, he appeared to be high on something, possibly methamphetamine. he initially said he came to carrollton to get money from his uncle. seconds later, he said he was looking for's stepfather. then, he said his stepfather was in jail and he was really looking for someone else. >> tell me who you are visiting here. i am confused. you said uncle and then you said -- so john's a friend of the family?
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>> john? that's a name you will hear later. at the time, it meant nothing to the officers. >> or not, were not trying to cause problems. >> it might've been forgotten except for this. at one point, he blurted out he was a hitman involved in a plot to kill a carrollton woman. at the time, sounded like a crazy story from a drug addled teenager. police looked into it anyway but could not pin it down. he was booked on minor charges and release. weeks later, nancy was shot. >> once it occurred when nancy was shot, really kind of tied those two things together. >> police wondered if dustin and his buddy were tied to the shooting. if nancy could pick either out of a photo lineup, the detectives figured it would be case closed. are you thinking she'd be able to i.d. one of these guys immediately?
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>> oh, yeah. if we could get the shooter identify, that's half the battle. >> you show her the photos and? >> she was unable to identify anyone from the lineups. >> was that a disappointment? did you think it still might be them but she could've gotten it wrong. >> oh, yeah. even though she couldn't identify them, we are still on the trail on those two. >> just as saber pregaming there hunt for dustin, the investigators got a call. as luck would have it, there was someone at the county jail who claimed he had the inside story of the shooting. >> the county investigator stated that billy johnson, in may, wanted to speak about the shooting. >> the detectives were intrigued is set up a meeting at the county jail. >> just for the record, billy, you have asked to speak with us, is that correct? >> yes, sir. >>'s rap sheet showed he was a
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career criminal with a reputation for being mean and scrappy. a reputation billy didn't mind discussing. >> i've got a reputation. everybody's claiming me to be tough and bad. i don't claim to be tough and bad. i am mean. i will hurt you. if you jump on me, i will hurt you. >> if he was mean he was also calculating. police would learn that whatever he had to tell could be there's for a price. >> coming up. >> there was two of them that don't it. >> he's providing information he should not know. they're about to hit this case like a monster truck. when "dateline" continues.
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andrea canning: nancy howard was shot point blank at her home

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