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stomach don't go anywhere, next, we have more news. >> i spoke to 24 hours ago when you were on your way to the nerd prom, in a tuxedo, what was your take away? >> you know what, the take away for me was that our colleague, kelly o'donnell, was the best white house correspondents dinner president host ever. i've been going to this dinner often on for 20 years and she was superb it >> she knocked it out of the park and the jokes were not so bad. very funny. enjoy your evening. thank you for joining us. tonight, shaping perceptions, america's history of college protests and how demonstrators often land on the right side of history. what will the history books say about this moment? billionaire donors say they are pulling cash from campuses over protest. obviously, we should thank them
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from it -- for it. high cat contradiction with conservative justices breaking promises they made on abortion really -- rulings. let's do it. it. at the beginning of the jewish holiday of passover last week, students at columbia university's gaza solidarity encampment out a peaceful passover seder and sang together in celebration. a student organizer reflected on his time at the protest, writing in part, "inside the campbell it is everything happening is beautiful. it is a show of loving community and solidarity and the seeking of justice." at princeton, students gathered for a teach in with a professor. at the university pennsylvania, students held a memorial in honor of a palestinian poet who was killed by israel in december.
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if you consume mainstream media in this country, it's likely that that is not the narrative you have been fed about what is taking place on campuses and at these protest. here is senator john fetterman today on news nation. >> is a great american value to protest, but i don't believe living in a pup tent for hamas is helpful. >> last week, an op-ed in the wall street journal argued that hamas, has the law, and these rebels are grooming activists in the u.s. and across the west. the anti-defamation league ceo said that this -- at this -- >> iran has military proxies like hezbollah and campus proxies like these groups. >> here is nancy pelosi, in january. >> i think that some of these
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protesters are spontaneous and organic and sincere, some, i think, are connected to russia. >> so from russia to iran, hezbollah, hamas , it's true that there are some bad actors and instances of anti-semitism on campuses and that needs to be unequivocally denounced, but labeling or crating the perception that all pro- palestinian, antiwar protesters are terrorists or hamas sympathizers or foreign agents is an attempt by the political establishment in this country to marginalize and ignore the demands of tens of thousands of protesters and students all across this country. it's contributing to the disproportionate, highly militarized response from law enforcement. at the university of texas at austin, police arrested 57 people on wednesday. universities are professors detained, one saying "i felt like i was in a war zone, with all the police and their weapons, the rubber bullets, and more."
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indiana university police were filmed aggressively moving in on a student encampment, arresting 23 people. the indiana university police department say they continue to support peaceful protest on campus, as long as it follows university policy. the vilification of pro- palestinian organizers and student protesters is not a new phenomenon. it's been going on for decades, predating the founding of hamas or hezbollah, even before the formation of the state of israel would arab-american students. organizing in support of palestinian rights, but during the civil rights and antiwar movement of the 1960s and '70s, activist began to draw parallels between those causes and the plight of palestinians. the movement expanded to include a wider student demographic data pro-palestinian organizing increase as the anti-apartheid movement gained momentum and just as the oslo peace negotiations for a palestinian state were about to start in 1993, a palestinian graduate
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student at the university of california berkeley helped to found the group, students for justice in palestine. in the years that followed, more pro-palestinian groups formed on college campuses. 2005, collision of 170 palestinian supportive organizations called for divestment from israel. years later, 2021, tens of thousands of protesters across the u.s. protested against israeli airstrikes in gaza. time magazine noted how online activism and the racial reckoning taking place in our own country helped to drive a groundswell of support for palestinians overseas. since then, awareness and student activism for palestinian rights has grown. today, students are standing up to israel's indiscriminate killing of civilians in gaza and we ignore them, and if we do, it is not our own peril. college protesters are never popular in the moment but are
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usually an indicator of where change is headed and needed. we saw this when students across the country demonstrated in support of the civil rights movement, we saw this when protest against the vietnam war erupted nationwide. we saw this when students took a stand against the u.s. response to south africa's apartheid regime. we know where history landed after all of those movements. students across the country are showing up in the same way. if the movements of the past are any indicator of where we are heading as a country, history will judge the repression and condemnation that protesters are facing, today. joining me not to discuss this, here is my panel.
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i will start with, if i can, with you, professor, but what's happening at columbia as it has become the epicenter of protest. give me a reading of what you witnessed and seen take lace on that campus and how you have seen it portrayed, if there is a juxtaposition, in terms of how, between the media and what you saw. >> protests at columbia began in response to an external event , which was january 7th. it did not begin as an internal impetus in response to something. the protest developed along two lines. there were those who were antiwar and there were those who were pro-war. there were those who were pro- israel and those who are anti- israel. the university portrayed these protest as a crime scene. they called in the police,
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saying that there was clear and present danger. the police came in, the police commissioner was surprised, after all of it, he said, "i didn't see any unruly student protesters." after that, the university banned two organizations. then, the university had 18 teens write a letter, which all of them signed, saying that certain expressions, "from the river to the sea," "by any means necessary," were creating a terrible situation on campus. a hostile environment. so, the university did everything in order to criminalize protest. >> you think they put their thumb on the scale and tipped the balance one way or the other? >> well, they definitely did tip the balance, in the sense
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that the entire university community was outraged, and was saying, that usually, our response to protest his negotiation. so, where are you going? in the same phrase, the university began negotiations but combine negotiations with a series of deadlines, saying if you don't agree, the police are going to come in, 48 hours from now. now, that's in the past, so we are waiting to see what happens. >> tell me what happened at nyu in terms of university response because this started at columbia , but as the crackdown happens, we saw this spread to other campuses around the country. >> and wife, and other college campuses, definitely at columbia, at nyu, the university has already started to criminalize it, exercising free speech. that was before the encampment and that has been happening, following october 7th and the
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beginning of the war. there was already a push for the crackdown, for the suppression of speech and organizing, particularly on palestinian rights on campus. the last week was the one where it was, the president called in nypd to shut down and crackdown on the protesters who were peacefully assembling outside one of the buildings. that was in an open area, people could come in, other protesters were very keen to make sure only nyu students and faculty were there. there was nothing but inconvenience to some students who had to the other entrance to the building. the idea was that there was no threat, no security or safety issues, and it really was, you bring in nypd, this is where you escalate.
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>> do you think the university would say that this violates policies because they did not have the necessary permits, or certain slogans, creating a hostile environment? are those sincere concerns or just a pretext for preventing pro-solidarity encampments? >> the university has an obligation to preserve safety for all and protect the educational settings, equal education for all, but they have to do it without being discriminatory regarding the message of the protest, especially when it is peaceful. they are not resorting to violence or intimidation or threat against particular individuals. what the university is finding is that the messages uncomfortable, is provocative, is making some students or faculty were some people outside the campus uncomfortable, because it's calling for divestment from the israeli relationship, examining the relationship between nyu and the israeli military industrial complex. that's what it is, it's not about the school.
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the school has the obligation to regulate, but must do so in a neutral way. unfortunately, from the beginning, it was siding with the side that was calling for protecting the safety of one side of the students and the faculty, but not the rest of the people. >> let's pull away from those universities and take a look at what's happening on college campuses across the country and how they are being portrayed and talked about in the political establishment. what do you make of the rhetoric we are hearing, as we played a small glimpse of these in the op-ed that portray these movements, backfire iran, hezbollah, even russia, the way they are being passed as anti- american and dangerous for the country. >> what i find that none of this commentary wants to grasp is something simple. that a lot of young americans could be horrified at seeing
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this, you don't have to psychoanalyze someone and imagine her getting backing from iran. it's true, there are some slogans that have come out of some activists that i disagree with. i wish that some of these movements were more clear about the fact that they oppose resistance and target -- targeting innocent civilians, but the core demand of the movement, right? you could have said, well, every large movement has people with these voices, there are people at the anti-vietnam war rallies caring the north vietnam flag, but the core demand was to end the war. the movement here is to end the war and end america's
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complicity with a system of israel's oppression and that seems to me, that is what we should focus on. >> should be concerned either way the discourse is being limited or confined against the more broad conversations taking place in this country? if you try to stifle student speech or freeze beach on college campuses, it will only reverberate in other arenas in our country and have a negative impact. >> yes, i worry about that a lot. i think it is not a surprise, not a coincidence, that ron desantis, the first governor to ban the students for justice and palestine chapters in florida is also the government, the governor banning the teaching of america's history about racism, because there is a push from the federal government to restrict the ability of people who have the kind of expression that is unsettling, and that is what universities are for.
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you think these arguments are wrong, debate them. i think that what we are seeing is because these arguments are threatening to some people in power, there is an effort to shut these movements down because they have slogans that make some students feel unsafe. you know what? i thought the other day that it was republicans telling us the oppose cancel culture and safe spaces and did not want people snowflakes, and i thought the point of university was to be made uncomfortable by speech that you don't like. of course, if you are physically threatened or intimidated or harassed, that's unacceptable. but, speech, including speech that makes you uncomfortable, should not be shut down. the mac let me ask, as professors who teach in these classrooms, what do you see in these students? at the end of the day, the way it's being portrayed, people are saying the students are lost, this generation of america's lost, these elite universities have lost their way in being able to prepare our students for being the
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leaders in our society. what do you make of that? the mac it's encouraging to see american students are engaged, in foreign and domestic policy, seeing injustice, and take action. they are outraged. these are the ones who are going to leave movements and need to be able to prepare to hold account their own situation. they are asking the university to do close -- disclose information about these involvements and asking them to divest. they should be given a chance to do so peacefully and not be shouted down. the university has to conduct a patrol of the encampment. the president does not want to talk to the student to protest. what action is that? i called on the president of nyu to speak to students and hear their concerns and deal with them, not bring in nypd and law enforcement and certainly, this is not going to
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lead to anything but catastrophic resolutions, and we know that. can't stay is an example -- kent state is an example. we must reject outside pressure and influence, like those that call for these protest -- -- >> to be broken up. final thoughts on the state of higher education? as a result of these protest? >> higher education in the u.s. has been exemplary in the work. a number of students, a number of professors, who move from their countries to the u.s., has been large. if you ask yourself why, the answer is simply that there has been academic freedom. there has been freedom to innovate, freedom to open up discussion. now, with this, one wonders if it is american education going the way of education and the soviet union,
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in third world countries? where is it going to go? >> let's hope it doesn't get to that point. >> there is not a clear answer ahead. it depends on how different forces in society react and respond. >> like everything else, we are being tested in new ways we haven't seen before and some is dangerous and thank you for joining us. i really appreciate your time and your insight. next, the influence that big dollar donors will have on these universities and what removing it means for academic freedom. stay with us. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer. fda-approved for 16 types of cancer, including certain early-stage and advanced cancers. one of those cancers is early-stage non—small cell lung cancer. keytruda may be used with certain chemotherapies before surgery when you have
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donations universities in the wake of unrest over the war in gaza and i would like to thank mr. kraft and his billionaire buddies because higher education should be free from the influence of a select group of powerful people bid with is now is the associate professor of political science at trinity college, co-author of "free speech and coke money." thank you for joining us. big donors have expected something in return, like having a building named after them or scholarship of preference for their children, but now they are looking at shaping core values or trying to unseat professors and dismantle programs or even remove presidents of universities. how dangerous is it to give these billionaires the power over a higher education system? >> thank you. it's a pleasure to be here, and i think those have a short answer, which is that is very
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dangerous. universities have only serve the common good, when faculty and students are free to pursue ideas and pursue knowledge where it needs us. we would not want exxon mobil or bp to terminate the curriculum of an environmental studies department. we don't want them determining what should be taught, that evolution should not be taught and we don't want the governor of florida to tell us that critical race theory should not be taught in class. what happens is when you let mega-donors and the ultra- wealthy influence the curriculum and influence research, the universities risk becoming an appendage of the wealthy and the politically connected and then universities cannot serve the common good. it's a very dangerous path. >> you said that the israel hamas war has become an "perfect storm" for donors to try and assert their power and you just give us other examples, as well, of other
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areas where there could be influence in higher education. what is it about this issue that has prompted such a broad donor backlash? >> sure, i think it's important to contextualize the present moment, in the last 10 years, there's been a concerted effort among the political right, the libertarian, wealthy donor class to gain greater access to higher education. as a result, there's been considerable resources in the form of thinking funding, astroturf student groups, media outlets, et cetera, that have pumped up a discourse filled with a narrative that universities are hostile to free speech, hostile to conservative viewpoints, that there are coddled students being taught by indoctrinating professors, and all of this is so far from what is actually taking place in higher education, except that narrative has had incredible political infrastructure that has gone into making it a
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common sense issue, right? that is having incredible political repercussions and we are seeing that in debates about the rt, and the on lot -- onslaught culture war. now, with october 7th and the war in gaza, that political infrastructure and the kinds of narratives that have been created, the skepticism about higher education has been put into overdrive. >> one of the questions i have is how did we get to this moment? there's obviously a race between universities to always have more money and better facilities and better research but we got to the point where we accept influence from billionaires or others. how widespread is that across elite universities? the mac it's important to think of elite higher education as
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the tip of the iceberg, right? there's been a general defunding of higher education that has been going on for decades, especially sense anti- tax republican, in order to defend the university, republicans had to delegitimize the university. the first round of culture wars in the 1980s and 1990s, about postmodernism and feminism and blah, blah, blah, right? that wave of the culture war was aimed at defunding higher education, to delegitimize it to defund it. now you have political operatives and these are the folks that ralph wilson and i look at in our book that have a great political interest in gaining greater access to higher education. they are frustrated that the universities don't teach the ideas they prefer or produce research that says climate change is man-made, or teach that gender is not binary, but socially constructed or that
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structural racism does exist. these are ideas that are really threatening to those in power and literally came out in 2020 in the black lives matter protest, right? they are really hostile and concerned that ideas are winning in the university because they are better ideas with better evidence that have better research behind them, so in order to prevent those ideas from continuing to win, they are putting their thumbs on the stand and that's incredibly scary. >> very, indeed. professor, thank you for joining us. i appreciate your insight. next up, promises made, promises broken. the supreme court and it's not so surprising reversal on abortion. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪♪) marcus: kaleb is my best friend. he's a fireball, full of energy all day, every day.
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imagine this. you and your partner are pregnant with the child when, suddenly, something goes wrong. you do what anyone would do in that situation. you run to the nearest emergency room. once you get there, the staff
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in an emergency. this week, that conflict made its way up to the supreme court. wednesday, the justices weighed an appeal from idaho officials who work and test in a loss it brought by the biden administration over there states near total abortion ban. idaho's law allowed abortions only if the life, not the health , of the mother is at risk. it's a distinction that many doctors say is impossible to apply in practice. this was the second time in less than a month that the justices heard a case dealing with abortion. again, breaking a promise made by conservative justices in the dobbs decision to stay out of abortion cases. when the high kurt -- high court overturned roe v wade, the majority opinion stated "the authority to regulate abortion must be returned to the people and their elected representatives." did we really expect we could take the far right court at their word? our colleagues did not.
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the court's liberal justices blasted the majority for pretending to wash the courts hands clean of the abortion debate, saying "far from moving the court from the abortion issue, the majority puts the court at the center of the coming interjurisdictional abortion wars." the liberal justices predicted a case just like this when -- would inevitably come back before the court. "how much risk to a woman's life can a state force were to occur, before the 14th amendment's protection of life kicks in? and, short of death, how much illness or injury can the state require her to accept?" from the very moment the far right court rolled back roe v wade, it was clear just how grave the consequences would be for women in america. we knew that. instead of accepting the reality, conservative justices turned away from it and millions of women whose lives can now be in jeopardy. after the break, i will be joined by a professor of
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and learn how abbvie can help you save. before the break, i explained how extreme abortion legislation in this country, like idaho's near-total ban, is putting women at risk. the supreme court wade weather that violated federal law that mandates health ills provide emergency care to patients, care the federal government says include abortion. idaho officials urge it ban does not conflict with federal law, since it allows a narrow exemption if abortion is necessary to prevent the mother's death. as dr. esther chu an emergency medicine physician in oregon notes, this defense of idaho's law presumes that preventing death is the only outcome that matters to us and to our patients. "such a defense presumes that we physicians can predict with accuracy the single moment any risk to a patient's health becomes a risk to that
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patient's life." this imagines a world where physicians would or should purposefully allow people to be at risk of death before intervening. professor of emergency medicine, dr. chu, joins us now. good to have you. can you tell us more about this federal law, the emergency medical treatment and labor act, and what it says about the kind of care patients should receive, are expected to receive, when they come into an emergency room? >> sure. this act was put into place in the 1980s because at that time, we noticed in emergency rooms, people are being turned away because they were poor, not insured, did not have jobs, and were being sent to county hospitals or public hospitals without the appropriate care and there, they were often unstable and would have poor outcomes, including higher risk of death. congress passed a law, and it
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said no matter who you are or what half total you present to, you deserve basic care and that means that we in the emergency department will see you, we will assess your stability, and we will give you any treatment necessary to be sure you are stable and not at risk for clinical deterioration before you leave our care, and that has become the minimum standard for care in this country. this has now become the accepted standard for what happens, should you, or anyone, walk into emergency medicine departments and that is what we expect to provide. >> exactly after people warned the supreme court that by overturning roe v wade, that this would, you would find yourself in these positions, because you decided to overturn roe v wade, and abortion is an essential part of women's healthcare. in this case, it deals with pregnant women who
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need the procedure. explain to our viewers some of the medical conditions that could lead a doctor to recommend abortion as a treatment when it's not the intended purpose of what the pregnant woman is taking. >> basically, there are so many conditions and the most obvious is something like ectopic pregnancy, where the pregnancy is outside the uterus. that can be a life-threatening condition for a pregnant woman and is the number one cause of fatality in the first trimester of pregnancy. you can present with minimal symptoms and we know that treatment has to be termination. in places like idaho or places where there are near-complete abortion bands, we have to pause and say, i know this is the indicated treatment, but since that patient is not dying in front of me currently, i need to stop and talk about it with wrist management to know we won't be prosecuted for providing something that in any other circumstances, would be
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automatic care for that patient. there are dozen examples like that that threaten the life and health of a woman and their pregnancy. again, this is basic care i am talking about, nothing fancy, nothing elective , but things that we have to do for women when they present to us with a very serious condition. >> in your piece for msnbc, you "idaho wants to redefine what it means to acceptably skirt death, but emergency medicine is not a let see what happens approach. we are a let's take care of this before it gets out of hand practice." as a doctor, what's your reaction when you see this kind of fundamental ignorance from lawmakers about what incredible doctors like you and others do? >> it's frustrating. it's so disconnected. listen to those arguments. they are so disconnected from how we practice emergency medicine and what people expect from us. if you came to the emergency department with an infection in
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your hand and i said i wanted to treat with antibiotics, i'm stable now, no one would think that would be okay for me to say, i'm going to withhold antibiotics until the infection has progressed up your arm or until you present shock or close to death. that would be, obviously, horrendous to hear from a doctor, and indicate you cannot trust them. if this were not to stand, it would be difficult to practice in an environment of trust because we would be setting standards aside simply because an individual law from state to state that there should be a universal standard of emergency care and that is what we aim to provide. >> i will play some sound from wednesday's oral argument. here's an exchange between justice sonia sotomayor or and idaho were lawyer, joshua turner, and amy coney barrett. >> when idaho law changed, to make the issue whether she's going to die or not or whether she's going to have a serious medical condition, there's a bit of daylight, by your
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standards, correct? >> it is very case-by-case. >> i'm kind of shocked, actually, because i thought your own expert had said below that these kinds of cases were covered and you are now saying they are not? >> those doctor said if they were exercising the medical judgment, they could, in good faith, determined that life- saving care is necessary and that's my point, a -- >> some doctors couldn't. some might reach a contrary conclusion, i think is what justice sotomayor is asking you. >> justice barrett said she was shocked by turner's answer but as a laid out before the break, is it really surprising? isn't this what actavis said would happen after the overturning of roe v wade? tina yeah. >> they are saying that doctors in good faith should be covered but there are some cases were clearly, doctors practicing in good faith would be prosecuted. the justices shortly after said why are we even hear if it's true that doctors can practice in good faith because that is
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what they are doing now, so why are we here if you are not trying to wedge space between what we need to do and what you are saying they can't do? yes, the reaction of all my colleagues is the same, which is that it is appalling what they are suggesting. >> dr. chu, thank you for joining us and sharing your insights. next, and nbc news investigation into israel's so- called safe zones in gaza. and it was the worst day. mom was crying. i was sad. colton: i was diagnosed with rhabdomyosarcoma. brett: once we got the first initial hit, it was just straight tears, sickness in your stomach, just don't want to get up out of bed. joe: there's always that saying, well, you've got to look on the bright side of things. tell me what the bright side of childhood cancer is.
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and nbc news investigation into seven deadly airstrikes has found palestinians were killed in areas of southern gaza . the israeli military explicitly designated those as safe zones. camera crews filmed the bloody aftermath of six strikes on rafah, and one strike further north. it was designated as a humanitarian zone and was opposed to be safe. the israeli military has yet to comment on this report. >> reporter: march 26th, 2024. 4:00. the aftermath of an airstrike in rafah, in southern gaza. victims, buried under the rubble. the father on the scene spots his daughter in the chaos. she is rushed into an ambulance, desperate. he attempts first aid.
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an investigation reveals that this is one of at least seven deadly strikes in zones our gaza team filmed after the idf explicitly designated them as safe in december. this one, identified as an evacuation zone in a leaflet dropped over gaza, and on the israeli military website in a map of safe zones last updated in december. when asked if there is anything more recent, the idf told us that the map was "still accurate." nbc news has tracked almost 50 airstrikes in rafah since then. more than half a dozen are in areas the israeli government directed gazans to go to for safety, by name. the leaflet dropped on december 18th lists, in addition, two other safe zones. our investigation reveals the idf targeted those three areas
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after it told residents to head there. january 9th, and airstrike occurred. this attack a family home, killing 15 people. we filmed the aftermath of the attack and the wounded, treated at the nearby hoss will. they told us that the area was safe, but unfortunately, it was not. >> many of my cousins were killed. >> february 12, 2024, we filmed the aftermath of an airstrike, on this camp. >> translator: they asked us to go there because it is safe. this is the safe area. look around you. what happened? >> reporter: april 20th at 10:00, in the same district, the building was leveled. among the dead brought to the hospital are a pregnant woman, whose premature baby briefly
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survived only to perish in the war it was born into. the israeli government has repeatedly called on gazans to evacuate here, a small plot of land on the coast, which it called a humanitarian zone on october 14th, posting a map of the enclave on its website. on november 4th, is really defense minister says there is a safe zone located there, where there will be no strikes and anyone there will be in a safe place. january 4th, three children died when their tent was hit. we documented the attack. this footage shows a crater. the hospital, treating survivors. 14 people were killed. >> translator: where should we go? no one is protecting us.
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>> reporter: the idf has posted that evacuation orders, 11 times, by our count, are still active while continuing to strike the area. we asked the israeli military multiple times to comment on the strikes that we have documented, dividing precise locations and dates. they addressed one of the attacks featured in our report, replying "the idf is not aware of any strike at the provided coordinates and times in the query." they added, "the idf follows international law and takes feasible precautions to mitigate civilian harm." human rights watches tell us that the strikes in israeli military designated safe zones are not isolated incidents. >> people use the roads they were told to use. they go to the plgoto. then, they get hit by an
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airstrike or a ground force invasion. >> is anywhere safe in gaza? the mac nowhere. >> reporter: to be on the strikes on areas explicitly named, the israeli government has continued to target southern gaza, where people were told to seek shelter and where more than half of the population has run out of land, literally, with nowhere else to flee. the idf itself said in november that it had dropped 1,524,000 pamphlets, telling people to go south. in a follow-up email to nbc, the israeli military lane thomas for telling people to ignore military directives and that "the idf will not -- will act against hamas wherever it operates, with full commitment to international law, while distinguishing between terrorists and civilians." for many, there is no escape. for the girl whose father's bloodstained t-shirt, covered
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in blood in an attempt to revive his child, it was too late. she died in a place where she and others were told they would be safe. nbc news, tel aviv. >> thank you. a new hour starts, after a quick break. quick break. more than 25 years. dove is 1/4 moisturizing cream. ♪♪ i feel silky smooth. ♪♪
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