against the west, the hello, i'm the miller chan. you are tuned into modus operandi. it's the stuff of nightmares . for those of us working in the tv news business, a live broadcast was interrupted by master gunman taking the acres and staff hostage on live television. the viewers seeing it unfold in real time, that event and will matic of the spiral of cartel and gang violence. taking over the once peaceful country of ecuador allegations of corruption, tying local authorities and politicians to the crime sprees have civilians paralyzed with fear. today will delve into what's going on in ecuador. all right, let's get into the m o the

. it was a happy start to the new here in wire to you. when again of mass gunman, storm the local tv station, taken everyone inside hostage, even planting explosives on innocent crew members, all happening live on air. police quickly responded, bringing an end to the situation safely within 30 minutes. remarkably, nobody died, and all 13 suspects were arrested without further incident. ecuador is president danielle noble. up has since designated some 20 drug cartels. terrorist groups and authorize the country's military to quote, neutralize them within the parameters of international humanitarian law. the president tacitly acknowledging the country descending into a narco terror state. and joining us now for more is as the bunker hill, he is the head of news for the cradle,

as the one. thank you so much for being with us 1st. let's begin with this big story from ecuador, one of the most powerful gang leaders in the country. adults of my cs. the head of the los jonetta is crime syndicate. apparently, somehow disappeared from prison and why a q this sparked a shockwave of events, including gang members taking over that live news cast prison uprisings. could you give us some details as to why this is happening right now? i'm unable to thank you so much for having me and yes, i just said the escape of these my know on us a feel it's he's screaming i'll handle. he disappeared from prison. you know, the prison authority of 2 days before these, uh, these events that involve the duty station they, uh, they announced that uh they gonna say he escaped a 100 miles. they couldn't find him. you know, we don't know where he's and then uh, well the spiral bottom is that we saw it continued. you know, well that was,

it was a reality. what seems to have happened is that fee to escape around christmas. he says, what are some insider information that has been going around in that? why did he escape, why they have such a so you know, just disappear is because in the sees around 2018. 2019 the presence of be inc. i'm sure all of the prisoners, they are the ones calling the shots. they are the ones that have the keys. if you know it's talking about the recent bruce on the right, that's present raj and equivalent to become the norm for the past 3 years. and we have had hundreds and hundreds about almost $500.00 people have died during these mastic areas every time that we could about i for the or over the past several years. it has to do with some form of present mass like a police in riot, or, you know, if there is a tax and that is because it makes it all goes back to these. that at some point they put already in the state, decided to have control of the presence over to the prisoners and they have been

and this is why the not met. so this iron obama is not the most recent events. and yeah, but if the post gave up on the, you know, there's really not a non non recent wife actually escaped the work and be already is that our president about how to announce that as part of the security plan. and he wasn't going to transfer the heads of the big guns to different praises. and i guess get them out of there, you know, their preferred sale or, well, you can even call them us now, you know, they, these places were small apologise. and then you know, escapes this happens and it's, it's like i saw a horse as i saw a horse by the guns. wow. i mean, just hearing that the gangs have taken over of the actual prisons themselves. that's gotta be terrifying to the local residents. but speaking of the, the newly minted president, then you'll know was one of his campaign promises was to crack down on violence, including those gaze through his much touted phoenix plan,

as he called it. however, since he has taken the helm, it seems ecuador has actually seen an escalation of violence, contrary to what he had vowed on the campaign trail. why, why is that? well, you don't to the, to a person looking for the outside. yes, because you know, it just seems like the balance came up to the what the power, the reality is, the balance has to be that the balance has to be there for the past for 3 years. the only difference, really, when he comes to that me and what was the power around mid december and his predecessor at bank of the year? my last so who was a he didn't finish his period. the law is, i mean to impress it and he's telling me here is the finish the period that gave him a lot so couldn't finish. so the only difference is that the wife has actually taken action. that's it. that's it because the other one also does nothing. i'm not pointed. he tends to do anything. he's just kind of sat on his hands and you know, as solid, a father's research grow and everything else there. your rights all the while when

you, you know, you explained that i declared 22 and these are going to stations. the 3rd is groups that if you, if they minutes, are the authority to come after then, you know, because another very important thing that all of your viewers need to understand about it. whether it's the police is essentially another car tell, the police does not work to protect the citizenship. you know, at the very least and factions within the police do not like either the police is very corrupted in the there's the several, several a, you know, high ranking members of the not, i q is a very, you know, eh, a bad thing. so i suppose, you know, being involved with the car, those of us taking payments. so it's uh, like if you see an action by the police, it's not just because you know, or they don't have the weapons which they don't or they don't have the life that bullet proof best, which i guess they don't bought is also because it doesn't really you know,

is there are going to start a fighting the agents of the drug cartels industries. they're gonna end up arresting a bunch of their own members. so that's why you have to bring in the military, which also not completely as prestigious as it was, was in the eyes of the people there at least as not as, as brought in as the police. it is. so that's what you're seeing now that you know there's action, there's actual action being taken, the prisons are being put under control. but then the question is, how long is this going? i left because this doesn't mean that the prisoners are no longer in control. it only means that their father in space so they can put on the show, like now you book on the computer not showing up. all right, and we should point out if we didn't mention before that you are yourself and ecuadorian national. you were born and raised there, you grew up. so if anybody knows, you know, the climate in the atmosphere of what's happening, it would be, you know, you brought up the more last so, you know, then you'll know law has declared a 60 day state of emergency similar to what last so did,

which was really very little success under that previous administration. however, he has ordered $200000000.00 worth of weapons from the united states. to implement this new security plan designating, you know, 20 plus groups, terrorist and what have you. how much of a role has the u. s. played with this new government, the new regime, if you will. and can we expect the same, or perhaps even more us influence under no more as well as just one thing i want to highlight the sleep limit. it's a 20 to the state of exceptions in our state of emergencies. none of that work. none of them did anything. nobody's office 1st. at the very least, you know, the prisons are being taken uh under control from the riots. so that's, that's a good thing. obviously, and there is at rest. that's also a good thing eh, but as far as the us involvement well in the us involvement has been very, very profound for the past 5 or so years. and i don't think that's gonna change

with them in the last this week. uh, the us in the head of the us southern command richardson is expected to get up to, you know, the debates for this cause. these are these new arms purchases and the other michael piece battery is taking bark on the, on the security meetings, you know, being led by the president. it was all the response to the, to the tune that is played by the white house. and that has been, the reality of the country, sees it turned towards the right away towards the only relation seems that you're not letting anybody know, and then you get a more or less. so. and now i'm, you know, i've always not really strain from the fact you know, them in the, well, he's the son of the reach his family and it was all or if he was born in miami, florida is harbor and educated. this is not exactly a mind we, we use, you know, a to and for the needs of the people. this is of mine was family is the highest depth or to the internal revenue service. and now what is the was planning to

finance be the war against the car sales is to increase the sales tax from 12 percent to 15 percent. while he, you know, if he's all there, which is less than 2 rights off, he's finding these best, which, you know, goes above a $100000000.00. what a coincidence? it's really sadly the same thing. what a coincidence huh. you know, lastly, before we, we go to break as the one down the well is just 36 years old. he's one of the youngest world leaders to take the stage just a few years older than him in neighboring else all night or is not able killer. he's just, he's now just 42 years old. he took drastic measures across this country to crack down on the drug, cartels and slashing, overall crime and homicide across el salvador dramatically. many are saying that no one should copy mckayla is moves. what do you think? you know that they the strategy that the has the brightness,

i thought it was worth to, to increase security for lower the homicide rate and, but it works for us. how about it? some of our cars are much different story than the quite a lot. and a much more do you know, different populations you, you cannot just transplant these things, you know, and uh, yeah, the piece is, what of, i mean, that was, frankly though, because this is what it's kind of become the talking point. you know, you have probably the security, the one, but then it also build prisons that rest on everyone. you know, no matter if they are actually guilty of something a, you know, at the same people because they have that there was, are there are they have about their, uh, yeah, heavy shape. and this is kind of the approach, right? but then i, i just want to, you know, bring to the attention something else that needs that. uh, while i was talking about all has been uh, icon country in the play by deadly violence for, for many, many years. and it was only been the truth for about the past 6 years. and before that we weren't, the 2nd step is gone through and nothing america. just last year, we close as the most dangerous. but, you know,

the real question needs to be asking these, how do we get to be that safe? and we didn't get to be that saved by applying the policies that the people galleys doing. we got to be such a safe country by taking away the social base from the drug cartels, you know, by providing younger people. we don't cartoony visa with access to university to get access to, you know, to, to, out of a break causing this close to, to, uh, to a 5 by latricia to, uh, you know, helping people get uh, a property to work right now. i was one of the highest on the bottom. there were rates in the, in the continent there how one of the highest migration raising the company. i just said, i am, if i go in and uh, i was one of those bomb and i was calling for one of those families that migrated when we had a crisis at the beginning of the turn of the century. and we came back once we saw that there was a government that was taking care of the people that was providing opportunities, you know, that's, that's what the work, the next level. and i feel like, you know,

the answer is better than the end of our writing, the phase. but suddenly this is why it wasn't meant the sponsor, here's your money. it doesn't aligned to the policies that the united states likes to see, which is you know, less spending or whatever's probably more be able be pretty. so it's more in prison and people for being poor. and josie are not perpetuating he sees that and that uh it has to work anywhere where you gotta buy arms, esteban, you have to buy arms from the us. that's the only way. all right, don't go anywhere. don't go anywhere. there's a lot more to ask. you all right, coming up next us sanctions hitting various central and south american states might be playing a role in the escalating violence being seen across latin america. we'll discuss it when we return with esteban, cardio sit tight. the m o will be right back. the, [000:00:00;00]

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the, the welcome back to the m. o. m l. a chance. as the us southern border remains a hot topic in the 2020 for us presidential elections. little is being discussed about the root cause of this migration. esther bond, cardio head of news at the cradle is back. thank you so much for sticking with us as the one. so echo doors. homicide rate has skyrocketed. as you mentioned, a little earlier since the coven pandemic in the country reporting an unprecedented

over 8000 homicides. just last year and a 288 percent increase in the number of homicides per 100000 people in 2022. what are the reasons for this mass of optic and in this kind of violent crime, especially when i could order was considered what are the safest countries in the world? i mean, as you said, just 710 years ago, the stay exactly as i can see, it seems i was 6 years ago, but i thought this point, i guess 7 years ago, and we were, we've had our homicide. right. that only was about off 5 homicides for $100000.00 inhabitants. last year, the homeless, i right close that $46.00 on the sides where i be $100000.00 inhabitants. you know, if some of the cities you make by the where their own countries they want to be the most violent place on eric are not, you know, bad places like us, but i look at places like videos or do that. so why did these happen? well, you know, i thought the bonded i b b and before the break, which is this,

they gave up control of the presence to the drug cartels part for uh you know, for the wrong uh, for medical reasons which is uh, you know, a whole nother uh kind of warranty, but essentially she is then a while we have seen it over at boston police, the massacres which nearly 500 people have died in that file is the bomb is just like, uh, you know, flooded right into the streets because the police are not in control of the streets and because the government is not, was not interested in taking control of the streets and give him providing people security. so you know, in the cop a co main dense loss tornadoes, and most, most, most tomatoes are essentially a proxy a, or this is not our sales and those novels at our proxy for the i've been police because i cannot assume that these mexican drugs are those are incorrectly biling, bradley, brutal. i'm, you know, i'm from, i'm sure your, your viewers are familiar with some other methods. on top of that,

you have the baby denmark. yeah. who control the influx of cocaine through europe? yeah. they poured the fonts for in belgium. and you also have been but i don't get the a tale and box. yeah. so i thought it just completely, completely taken over by these very powerful, very violent. eh, trust, national, dropped ourselves the and the thing is, is the show us the, you know, right now the why you see, they are me, you see the police there are, there are arrested people industry. they are, you know, like, got everything you want. see, what if you are risk 80200000 little what solid years if you're a raise, you know, dozens of these are leaders that uh, are you know, like 5th or whoever. that's not really, you know, who's behind on the why we're seeing a lot, because what we're seeing unfolding the lot down to the equals all, oh, i'm sorry to the powerful economic groups because there's not, let's not forget that you get more law. so ended his period early because it was

discovered by his brother in law was auctioning off. powerful government positions, cabinet positions, it with the help of an agent for the mafia. so that's how big it runs, the raw thing that by the, in the fact that you're seeing these on the streets, you know, if you see uh, this google of government, and there are, you know, the television studio and they take the people hostage and they put the explosives and whatever. and then the police in half an hour they take, i mean, you know, almost with no effort. and they just see the pictures. these are all children. you know, at least all of them are children. there. you know, young teenagers, the other half, they are older. that may be 25 years old. the oldest one who have these kids. there are kids that were left behind. their kids were forgotten. who never had a child in life. you know, i'm not apologizing. you know, for cream and i was referred to in, you know, or to say something for a parent or using these point where you need to understand what the root cause of the problem isn't. that is not being addressed. that is not being has not been authorized by any more than as not being addressed by you one last night,

boston seems to be going to be authorized by the walkways. don't be here until next . may you know, next month and they've been extra. i'll see some meetings and if i lot of that's, that's how be ended. we are. yeah. and, and to your point, i mean, i'm from los angeles and i grew up there, you know, in the eighty's and ninety's where the gang violence was edits, peak, right. and movies were made about it and what have you and looking back now, there's so much research that has been done. why did kids join games? because a lack of opportunity in the areas that they're from. there's basically nothing else for them to do not know where else for them to go. so they turn to this life of crime as a means of survival. again, not, not apologizing for them, but there is a precedent and studies that have proven this out over the past 2530 years now from los angeles. you know that, i mean this is that it is a clickable as well. i would say to echo what on so this and this leads to another

imperative question i think on given the political upheaval that we saw in venezuela that was largely brought on, i would say by us lead sanctions there. and of course, we had the little um, little bit of time we saw the self declared president, one why know which led to a wave of my room swing to neighboring countries. do you fig. as echo the water further descends into, i guess we can call like a violent period, that many will begin to seek asylum in neighboring nations as well. i mean, are we going to see if a migration exit is out of ecuador, and we're already saying we're ready to be seeing it for the past few years. a i just said uh, giving us like all of these, essentially really started on funding during the back. and when uh, you know, the businesses were shutting down to people where i, you know, school and at the same time the government was starting, those schools was hurting down the hospitals. so we just saw these uh, massive uh,

lots of my friends, you know, eh, and i feel like, uh, it quite low. sadly. right now we can't even be compared to venezuela. we must be compared to painting because of the powers we, katie are much more relevant than that. they can be without any other country in our content that do not a right now in the body in jungle. i don't know if you know, maybe you've seen uh some of these videos. you see these, these cues here is lives of migrants and a big part of them. they're coming from a lot, i think last year at 300000 and they buy the oreos and they've, they've gone through, you know, at this point we are probably crossing the into our media and our so that how they have left the most of them of course they goes to the us because we are in the same content and then because these guidelines, they also control because they are, you know, they're the human traffic and business. so if you know you have the guy in your town and they come and they blackmail your business and, and you can say to blackmail, so you pick out how long would it be for an or a, you know, member of the guy. so you can pay for your family to work with you as

a video. these guys would, takes you to the us border and so on and stuff hard, you know, in new york, it may or eric adam. i know he's dealing with a huge problem with the, with the migraines. and i remember an interview from him a few months ago, which he said as most of them are venezuela's. and then the 2nd or the 2nd one, a nationale be, is it by the organs, and he can book while, all right, i'm pretty sure he can for brother recently to, to meet with already. these are our or something or other. so yeah, like we are again exporting migraines week, which is exactly what it feels like um, you know, the best they me under these uh, west uh has yeah. money that we live in to is it seems to be for us, which is, if you can survive the gang and if you can't afford anything, and if you probably find work, then migrate. and i will become just another, you know, and it's the piece stick. maybe just arrived at the idea and maybe you survive a, everything that comes after that. maybe your, you pass a, you know,

border security. and then you pass on by funding, you know, like whether it is, it depends on the roommate themselves, of migrants and it has been before the way we thought of our previous migrant pricing. the price is in the past. yes, the remittance has are a major source of income for many, many migrants from latin american countries, but again, it goes, it goes back to the root causes a lot of economic strafe. so for those people in their desperate people don't just make these, these dangerous tracts as you said, unless they are actually desperate. i mean, some people maybe, but generally speaking, no, you don't, you don't risk taking your, your small child, you know, walking thousands of miles to, to risk death if you weren't desperate. so, very excellent points. always appreciate a conversation with you as to why. and i thank you so much as the one claudio is a be root based ecuadorian journalist. he's the editor at the cradle. thank you so much for your time and insight. thank you. want to know what we've got to be on this. all right,

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