is the 1st robust thing to do that. tim walberg, a republican congressman from michigan at said back at the end of march that we should get it. and he said, we shouldn't provide any humanitarian a we shouldn't build the board is that it should be like here she met and nagasaki . get it over quick. they have the stroke in their mind and it is beyond reprehensible. do you uh, do you know about, let's pull bar a show here on oxy sharing that name i india is accomplished to time of school. when i produce a denise mongo, a couple of sharing of view that india should incentivize women to work behind the camera, have a, have a look at this as i always was that he's acted by age i just taught. that'd be a very, a just but us culture little more than gender. we are kind of funeral and not accept the young as an equal side colored my head like, you know, i was 26 producing gang less of foot or,

and i and that part of him and i was 26. i used to project as being fucked, the due date for the 9. know that in the next 5 years, the to be an area of focus making a big cities as beautiful as in details of india. as indeed there's of, by that would be, are going to in headed. what is the bottom of your dreams in 2004, the survivors of my dreams is equal is, is equal in the interface field. it's at the center of 50 to so multicultural, and that is the beauty of with you and the lanes of band. and, you know, you especially see decorated in christmas annual enter liens, and you'll see for the liens lit up in the lobby. and you know, annual annual enter, leans and you'll see midnight on meals during e impact as india or not. that is part of the i see a lot of the people taking pride of the small load, you know, out of his stations. i see the article going region and not, you know, the whole,

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the fitness center for the question, did you say a request to check the 3 what i see you? bye bye, mr. so why the problem? the to thank you for taking the time to speak with us this afternoon. how are you, sir? praise going. i'm good. good, i'm good, i'm home. now we want to discuss what is happening globally. if we look at indonesia, it is one of the countries that continues to voice support for palestine. and that also supported south africa's case before the international court of justice to against israel. problem in from your point of view. why just the indignation government feel it is important to voice it support for this conflict? spot of the balance i discourage of the founding fathers is the same that is held

by the government. for example, have we believe in participating in creating peace before it's independent sign up until entities you decided to join the don't the block move, but it was the cause of that spirit. and when engine easy, it became independent. the palestinians also recognized at independence. so the relationship between the people have been an easy a. i'm the people of goals i think has been built a long time in the past. probably assign was among the known state supports as old indian easy is independence. so if engine easiest supports it today is part of what we were born way to bits, automatic. their names of indonesians whose names all go to z, which means people from goals i want them. so the use of the word l g o z is not a foreign name here, but kids are even names of scholars for him. ask aloud. that's why they called ask allow me because the person is from escalade. escalade is now part of israel. a lot

of kind of side goes and names are pretty common in all countries. even to mon chef fee himself came from gauze app comfortable though he lived in baghdad long and also served in yemen. i'm on the shaft, the pot, me use the tub, outgoing z. that's because it originated a net. it goes that which traces back to its origin and fax off to world war 2. the strength even further the particularly when issues in the region started to arise following world war one. in other words, if the people's ambitions are reflected in the government's attitude, the government ex, upon the support from indonesia is expected and not surprising market. and then i hit and yeah, they the men finally the you and passed a resolution for a ceasefire from your point of view, what impact can this un resolution have? will it be able to resolve what is happening in the gaza region as a 7? does it affect levels, so i don't know the direct effect on israel, on the central minutes, but it seems that the goal is to supplement is taking a while. and then from a market perspective, whether this is

a sign that something is going to shift, we don't know yet our broadcast, hopefully it will be foster based solely based on the verdicts. we haven't seen it in action. the decision is one thing, but how it's implemented in the field must also be tested. it seems that still needs to be a lot of tokens and most series diplomatic negotiations, assessing the indonesia music on indonesia itself is also very active in providing assistance support. not only in terms of diplomacy, the community is involved, both through demonstrations and material assistance. could you share a little bit about the role of the p b and you to be able to provide and also ensure the support for the people in palestine. the color young to put a simply the and you latest how to channel people's aspirations to take care of how in an easy it becomes a peacemaker. so people have hopes or respectful apollo side for us citizens, but not only in demonstrations, but also in that presence. of course,

these communications must be properly channels. so it's not just a demonstration to maintain the rhythm and spirit of support. we have been supporting palestine for a long time, a holiday, but now i'm from your experience where maybe you've received information. are there challenges that have to be overcome to provide the support specifically for supplies such as food or medicine that indonesia has delivered that by not to glen days, a lot of support for the people even more than what's needed on the transport team was overwhelmed. there's a lot of support in the form of natural and material a, especially for the palestinians. the technical issues involved in delivering the items also not simple. that's what our government can result quickly on. but for example, the government allocated air force planes to help the people from a, b, b and you are among the officers who assisted in delivering the supplies. you've got those who are used to handling soft as we're involved with is there also offices who deliver goods to complex areas?

not i mean in palestine, but also in their left by in syria. so and you asked the best i've been used to help to deliver aid then me most of the slow and, and there has always been a closeness and cooperation with the government to deliver this aid and one been born in. yeah. yeah. can yes, because the government has the authority going on when it comes to relationships between 2 countries. the governmental relationship is certainly strong. got its people to people supporting from ages that that's the kind of relationship that exists between the governments. i've got to go look at that we have done right now . if we look at the turmoil, there is a lot of interference from western countries in this conflict. what do you think about the policies of these western countries? but the boss have to end up with skype because most that i'm not sure if the sites pico treaties still exist for defining 1916 european space of influence. tracing

the origins of the troubles in palestine is a lengthy study that cannot be condensed. therefore in some of the talks of a most lately, we must explore that. what is the palestinian issue can be results suddenly by you and resolution or something more is required. we always come back to who the parties are conducting the negotiations that demands that greater level of seriousness than before. for example, west and countries are responding to issues in west asia or in the palestinian territories. now that is all side different and not the same. what is the west to america in europe have to be the same? does it have to be profound in nature and the red sea western european countries in the united states on a couple of ways the same. on the other hand, the palestinian problem is situated almost at the red sea. so really palestine the west and the red sea cattle, they separated. what is happening now requires negotiations that are not solely economic, but i duck on much stomach of my conversation must go deeper than that. and we

thought that that'd be bustle. next. the tray got more complicated issues in west asian affairs because it could be a short period. it could lead to that. oh, but i'm really have what do you see as the approach taken by western countries in the global south and managing this conflict? yeah i'm, i'm good with the perspective young got paid. that might be a slightly different perspective between the south old global south and west and countries. i just read that the use of the middle east level does not mean from the middle. it uses the middle east and who uses the time west asia and you have any one given me that it may be there is indeed a deeper context to the where it's used to knock on. i thought i would only what to do. middle eastern is see themselves as from the middle east when someone refers to the middle east and what they see the region from the point of view to the west of it. that it doesn't mean that i've decided that may also represent the perspective that is applied to this issue. ones that you need to be happy to do. yes, it could be showing a standing position,

give us something starting with the medical. so we often hear especially in european countries about the burning of the holy qur'an the banding of his traditional islamic clothing and schools and female students being prohibited from wearing the hygiene or head scarves in any form. this also happens in the workplace . they're strong in time, muslim statements made by right wing politicians in europe and mass. if you look at this part of all these cases, just standalone incidents or can one talk about a wider problem or the rejection of everything. most of them in your say, got the look, i know. so we have them done. i don't really believe there is a genuine rejection of islam. the fact that interest is growing is proof positive. it's a different story. and finally, if it turns into a political narrative, because the election is gets in place, i mean, it's a little tough to talk about. but again, i want to make it more difficult for candidates running in that district to attract supporters. for example, in some countries we see this trend spike during the election and it gets more

attention because it's a matter of finding places in america all the west. perhaps my daughters have participated in the youth exchange during the american election season. pals, question her saying what you cover your headlights, i don't you worry that you'll be bullied by others as well. so from my perspective, it's important to remember that every one has the unique style of getting alone. and even when it comes to wearing a headscarf in new environment, that hasn't been used to that, it's about the one who doesn't where, who responding to the one who does this is about the relationship with the book about how to maintain the relationship with that i still believe there are more same people in this world, the nurse who would know that i'm that, that hello by the guy. what is your view on how the issue of religion has become a political agenda in these countries today? yeah, to my, if you take the essence of religion, it is important politics,

but you seem to be political show up within the past and this decision comes out to be in security. it could be that the person who pulls the religious issue, people and not confident with our achievement. so they pulled a religious issue for us and there was a problem early on. and why is religion important for politics? sensing just a little because of religion is to god it's high value. years in high values are important for politics. religion is a warehouse, all 5 values. component takes benefits from a high regard for religion because it promotes a healthy political climate. but if you just take the show, it politics will lose its meaning. they seems to be a situation where in political seasons, in many countries, the issue of religion is pulled up. that's actually a set back for progress. and whether he's left or right is another mass of silica, been them plan um, with migration trends on the rise all over the world, and millions of people ending up outside their natural religious environment. what

are the main difficulties facing organizations that try to promote peaceful coexistence among people of different religions? does this mean the politics using the cloak of religion is also one of the difficulties? what other difficulties does the community face to be able to continue to maintain peace between religions about undermine? was a guy something the wind up every area faces unique challenges up on the it takes a while to go to southeast asia in a few to the length of travel living in the south east asia is also a more tranquil. we can't rely on only what is taught in schools, in my opinion or school curriculums are important. but in order to promote the healthy way of life rules and regulations governing how people live in these multi cultural or multi religious society must be gretch any question. ok to describe a society's common sense the people of different religion just can't get along with each other. that is the application of punch a c, the values. that's another like the president, tim medina,

at the time of the dream rest of the realize time, the people were different. the tribes with different kinds of religions with different stuff they could get along. actually punch a c that is taken from such references, defining the common interest of a people or a community is each states to take the book in each community. the people have the gcs that they're like. now how about 100 us gotta now we also hear a lot about universal values like a new narrative that many convey not just politicians. many stories are circulating in the younger generation, even do you have any knowledge about whether those universal values actually exist? and how might indonesian people respond to this narrative, given that some argue this is ambiguous? yeah. yeah. it does cause yeah, that's actually an old discussion, potentially universal humanism has been around for a long time and then the policy discussion was also not sure. so is it repeating that again? should values that apply it generally,

that can appeal generally be standardized, just like that without considering regional or local factors on top of that is the cause, the sense of belonging that comes from being east and no indonesia, for instance, small cuba is actually west. slavic guess, from where the asian or european, it's a sense that both universal and regional model, it is a sentiment that is local, regional or shed by all agents, including southeast asians and indonesia. and this is a person's feelings, unavoidable. but if it is a value that has global meaning, then fine, but of course it has to be negotiable. it cannot be taken for granted. this is the most universal value to well, it's just different from the problems that were faced during the universal terms of humanism debates. and yes, they recognize that local value still exists. the local does not need to be globalized. i'm a global does not need to be localized wilcock. i've left the good to go on. you

like me like what about n use own values? how can we maintain those local and global values? the local, i mean, you know, i go about, i mean, look, we had the, we have the new logo ready to pick c, f. i been trying to market office strategies that enable and you to keep it alive. that is preserving the tried and true while creating the new and improved that approach does exist. good, that's good on. if we're now talking about terrorism sometime ago, there was a terrorist attack that took place in moscow. indonesia has also experience terrorism on that scale, which has hit us hard. is there a country in the world that is completely protected against such tragedies? and what exactly should be done, especially by the government to be able to overcome them, the by to go down, be some level something that comes over the you have to understand the whole argument not only in black and white because people are able to do stuff like that, that is because the terrorist was raised to the set,

the environment that enables him to do this. consequently, i believe that the organizations are involved in russia, and it's quite quickly to take that into account and address it. but every nation has its own approach to dealing with it. o anticipate to get i'm thank god, we've able to avoid the difficult conditions that indonesia has encountered from southeast asia office, a unique experience compared to other regions. what makes the difference? yeah, be said that they've gotten the model enabled way that it could be because the big picture is different. it could be for other reasons, but they all domestic fact says, what is the difference between this domestic goals and this normally the domestic cause of what is the conflict like in indonesia by itself didn't hold measured as have been taken. the results can be seen since the body plumbing, where the government moved quite aggressive, leading somebody then oh, if you trace the issue of terrorism, it cannot be directly linked to only religious issues. a terrorist is at least

a criminal. they cannot be linked only to his belief. that's a subject that we're going to use. anybody he comes back from your experience with p b m. you, how's the organization contributing to the handling of this terrorism case? where is it the wrong teachings or narratives that are finally shared with the community? i doubled it up a, a bit better, but the young man, some people specialize in problem solving, whether in the area of religion or imagery performed in cases where charles religious imagination is misguided due to incorrect interpretations and don't dreams. this is what it comes with, following up off is prioritized event determining the appropriate course of therapy or remedy. children, for instance, utilize some phrases with ease, but we can judge whether this is from the hospital or just something that comes out of the matter with whom am i to say what is the measure of a religious person or a person claiming to defend islam? does he interfere with other peoples? right, so no, i think it might be if it turns out that he intends to defend as well. but homes of

the policies is actually as long as there are ways to measure people's narratives and statements that alone, detecting people who do not make statements. the naturally early detection methods are available to officials in every nation. and therefore, a state officials are concerned with early detection, then community activity. so active base from non governmental organizations and naturally interested in developing a more tolerance, peaceful, and healthy way of living to the most critical to comprehend the importance of appreciating one another and living in harmony. that is something that they get all the way. perhaps not many indonesians are the international community know about the relationship between russia and the p. b and you then either. so where the story of this relationship again yeah. can you explain what kind of relationship has been established up until now? you got l, i c, or forgotten the relationship between russians and nations as been going on for

a long time in terms of institutional organizational relations. but of course, it's in the form of government relations, for example, for as far as we know, recorded meetings between n u officials and russian official started during the time of presidents to condo. in fact, several and you lead is a company, presidents of colorado when he visited several sites in rest. so for example, in colorado, in test catch them, there is the to move him on because right. they did most guys, there was a great most cool the cathedral most abrupt essentially and use of course the government's policies. however, the relationship and does not restrict it to that when it comes to the people it now for example, there are certain names in southern brush or, or central asia, that's if you have them, you will not be surprised 40 for example, the name is shake abdul jaime druggist ami shows that he's from the caucasus, but the coal cause is certainly positive russia because these names that must these inductive stop. and i'm not certain that gets to all these already part of russia.

so it includes the names of figures who were in central asia when central asia was still russia. this can be traced, for example, to the name a said. his name is as the account we dug is done because that's the part that was sent to the fast. the when people prayed in the congregation, it's a very respected part of the service. it would say one of the next spend the people who is respected as cold as the account. wait. he's from digress dog. and there are more than a few figures from dentist on whose names often mentioned and i meant the inside. so if you trace it back to salt on the outside of a put in to on is grandfather salt and alpha i made was the one who wrote and made the logo of the root of but on the symbol of the indonesian state, which has dec, a stony blood pass out on a shake as one a was from dug, a stone. that's why the named egleston is still attached in the, in full references as the one a guess tommy means. i said i could stop them. i thought that goes back. that'd be

a whole many that means the relationship has existed long before him. denise his independence. oh my god. and yes, up until indonesia reached independence and beyond. we on the buckeye, the satellite god. yes. the books that he used in the community, religious books, for example, at islamic boarding schools, some of the books so cool. so use a deck style. so there is a close by yeah. can i and people who took the guess because they learn from the same figures. it's a little different from here in terms of sector. my dad, by the see a logical understanding. the math is the same to the reality show fee pre dominates in southern russia. wrong, but then kind of thing. the only difference is that one is the terrestrial roots on the of the is a c root, just like in the southeast asia and hit the spice we're going to get to the silk root is the one and that gets done. and if the pulse may different, but the fundamentals of religion remain law should be the site a holiday really have me have. what is the relationship like today?

oh boy, in him take break. i took the relationship has maintained good times. as we say that there were still visits from one another. for example, the visits from russian figures to islamic boarding schools. there are invitations from events in russia to end an easy and the big is. if you look at these, we see good relations from bite, spotty, it's very quick. i come up file who live in babylon. why is it considered important to maintain the relationship between p b and you and russia, given the relationship between indonesia and russia, that is also still very well established by the end, the nation and government by internship gullow one or how does this answer that going to find that god class for the relationship between the people, the relationship between figures can suddenly be learned from a long time ago. for example, there are universities to often invite representatives from entities. yep. campuses in russia and campuses in indonesia,

almost invite figures from russia. that's something that's being developed. it's important to help maintain relations between communities. that person to person, that size. the building between citizens is important for more peaceful relationship and the journey ahead. but the fact that in what ways can the relationship between muslims in indonesia and russia continued to be strengthened just yeah. how, how young woman can, can it is about things that allows a strong understanding or encourage. and this is the ones that promote misunderstanding or avoid it. i guess for example, if there was sensitive issues that we need to deal with them quickly at those times we office who is the neighbor of russia, of those countries that but how many karone system we need to explain that it's very far away, which means it's different to do now if you look at it that way, but things that allow misunderstandings to occur in a part of what must be addressed and that the, the existing understanding what must be improved and have to be the mind. i see bang yet above us. why be thank you very much mister. so eddy for your time and for such an enlightening discussion. not only about the history,

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a way of for sure. so the most of the people just mostly enough one to the it's almost the at the moment when the system, the good english is and you know, the in the headlights are what are the international one united nations staff members killed and another wounded. well, israel pounds, what about fox is a total once you monetary and workers and mounts. and the idea of campaign or the enclave health care system is set to be actively on the brake. the police just don't want the knots but to be in the user id condensation. is there any police of binding palestinian students from commemorating the not the anniversary? and tyler eve stopped according to the student's organization, which says it was stopped them from mocking the expulsion of nearly a 1000000 palestinians 76 years,