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by the corporation for public broadcasting and from contributions from viewers like you. thank you. >> welcome. the initial stages of a salvage operation are underway tonight at the site of the bridge collapsed in baltimore. they will clear away the cargo ship. officials warn it is a mammoth job. >> it well not be days or weeks or months. this will take time. every single phase we have to focus on safety of the people doing the work and make sure we are doing it in operation and collaboration with all the parties involved. we have to make sure we are doing it in an environmentally sound way. >> the white house announced

that president biden will visit baltimore next week to view the operation. there are more signs that inflation is gradually easing. it was down slightly from january. the year-to-year increase is still above the fed goal of just 2%. joe lieberman was laid to rest today in connecticut. politicians and family remembered the long time independent turn -- democrat turned independent. they included al gore. he chose lieberman as his running mate. >> i saw i'm ready to reclaim friendships. ready to look for ways to bridge divisions. ready to seek reconciliation and stand for his principles,

always. >> lieberman passed away wednesday after suffering a fall early was 82 years old. benjamin netanyahu now says he is ready to return to mediated talks with hamas. he said today that he approved of the next round of talk in the coming days. negotiations have appeared stalled after a series of stops and starts. israel hit syria today with the deadliest airstrikes in years. an independent war monitoring group reports that 44 people were killed, mostly syrian troops. these attacks came mainly outside aleppo. they targeted hezbollah militants. israel has stepped up strikes in syria since the war began. that war put a damper today on good friday observances in jerusalem. fewer people than usual carried crosses through streets of the old city. the pope had traditional

services at the vatican. in the philippines, several villages reenacted the crucifixion of christ. one man, now 63 years old, was nailed to a cross for the 35th time. >> i cannot tell for how long i can do this. my body is getting old. i cannot say if this will be my last or if i can do the next year. it will all depend on my body. >> church leaders usually oppose these crucifixion. russia launched another wave of aerial attacks in ukraine. it struck power plants in a wide ranging assault. it is the latest in a wave of stepped-up russian attacks on the ukrainian power system. lewis johnson junior, the first

black man to win an oscar for best supporting actor, died today in santa monica. he gained renowned in a tv miniseries. this oscar-winning role was as a marine core drill instructor in an officer and a gentleman. >> where have you been all of your lives? listening to mick jagger music and bad mouthing your country. you better stop eyeballing me. use your peripheral vision. do you understand? every time i say that, i want everyone to say, yes sir. >> in later years, he appeared in the remake of the color purple. he was 87 years old. still to come, the georgia

legislature passes new voting rules ahead of the election. david brooks and jonathan cape hard way and on the weeks political headlines. beyonce drops a new genre defying album. >> this is the pbs, from our studios in washington and from the west, the walter cronkite school of journalism. >> we talk a lot about how we generate electricity and the vehicles we use to get around. those sectors contribute about a quarter to solution. those sectors are starting to get much cleaner. but a major source of dilution

is heavy industry. that sector has been much slower to adapt. this week, the biden administration pledged $6 billion for a series of pilot projects in different states to try to spur a green revolution in those industries. will this help move the needle? for that, we are joined by someone who studies how to clean up heavy industry. thank you so much for being here. the energy secretary says this is the biggest invest with that the u.s. has ever made in this industry. but it sounds like we haven't tried to do not much far. how big an investment is this? >> that is a great question. when we talk about the industrial sector, we are talking about manufacturing and all of the activities that make things as opposed to using energy.

$6 billion is by a very large march of largest investment america or anyone has ever made, in cleaning up greenhouse gas emissions from the sector. the manufacturing sector in the u.s. is like a few trillion dollars a year. this is a fantastic thing. but it will be just a start. >> why have these slices of the industry been slow to catch up? >> that is a great question. one of the reasons why we have seen less progress in the industrial sector there is people only really started working seriously on it maybe five years ago. people have a on electric

vehicles since the 1990's or even the 1970's. we are at an earlier stage. there is additional complexity that comes because in industrial activity, often the greenhouse gas emissions come from the chemical reactions that are happening to make the product. often you have to change that. these are some of the reasons why things are little bit slower in this sector. >> this investment is a series of pilot projects that have been awarded two different companies and adventures who apply for these.

what kinds of things are getting awarded and what will it look like? >> one of the things that is so exciting about this project is most of it where there has already been a pilot. investment will take it into commercial investment. we are looking at using hydrogen and that of coal to makes deal. using electrified cement. alternative types of cement. that has lower emissions associated with it. also projects that are using carbon capture and forage.

we will keep using the same process but that of letting the co2 go out the abatis here, you capture it and pump it into geological formations where it can be stored for a long time. >> the energy department took great pride that a lot of these objects will be ending up in disadvantaged communities that have experienced years of divestment. what are they referring to? >> i think that is a really exciting part of this. often in these areas around industrial development, they have a disproportionately amount of air and water pollution that harms the local population. we have had significant deindustrialization in many parts of the u.s. in the last decades. they really want to make sure that the communities that hose

these projects are the communities that were impacted by pollution. those communities will really benefit from this. and tens of thousands of jobs that will come from these projects. >> thank you so much for talking with us. >> thank you so much for having me. ♪ >> this week, the u.n. said 1500 haitians have been killed this year because of a crisis. for nearly a month now, the country has been involved in another brutal wave of gang violence. the prime minister said he would resign as soon as a traditional -- transitional counsel is created. but so far there has been the

victory. we have this report. there are very disturbing images in this story. reporter: this week, parts of port-au-prince are a shell of a city. this capital of more than a million is burning. the streets are streaming with left behind garbage and left behind bodies. no protection for the people. >> people are waking up and seeing dead bodies. reporter: she has lived in haiti for more than a decade. they have been displaced twice. >> when they attacked the airport, that changed everyone's sense of, what do we do now? the places we thought were safe are no longer safe. reporter: airport employees ran for their lives after gangs

torched the airport. in a country used to violence, this was different, designed to bring down the government of the prime minister. >> these last few weeks has taken it to a new level. a level i have never seen in my decade of being here. we had to leave our home. the night before we left, we had to move our children into one room of the house. we slept on the floor so we could avoid the possibility of gunfire coming into our home and hurting us. reporter: u.s. helicopters have evacuated hundreds. now commercial planes have departed. 500 u.s. citizens have left.

some do not have passports. even if they did, the u.s. is not yet evacuating haitian family members of u.s. families. >> i have been talking to u.s. government to see what options they can offer. so far, nobody can come up with a solution. >> i think if you can show a familial ties through marriage or birth, they should be an exception. >> he is the founder and ceo of project dynamo, a nonprofit that evacuate americans from conflict zones. he urges the u.s. government to expand the categories of people eat -- they are evacuating. >> i think you should have an exception. >> project dynamo received 100 rescue requests. today they evacuated 51 american

and canadian citizens. they have also evacuated americans from sudan, afghanistan, and ukraine. but evacuating people from 80 has proven -- haiti has proven difficult. >> the government has been frustrating. american citizens are stuck longer surrounded by gangs. reporter: the dominican republic has closed its border to haiti. across haiti, thousands of people are displaced. 1.4 million people are on the brink of starvation. >> day after day, people are dying. because of stress. reporter: he says the country is being choked and starved.

>> some roads are blocked. some ports are also blocked. we are wondering how many days but we might not be able to find what we need for sustenance. i would like to live in a better haiti. reporter: but today there is only war stealing the country's future. ♪ >> the death of george floyd sparked a national reckoning over leasing. it resulted from a police technique that is considered nonlethal.

a new investigation by the ap has found it is much more common than was thought. we have a report. reporter: the investigation found that more than 1000 people died after police force last nodded to the. the oldest victim was 95, the youngest 15. only the officers involved were charged. many more americans have died at the hands of police than previously known. this investigation has done with the howard center for investigative journalism and outline. how does this use of is not intended to be lethal in dump-in deaths? >> what happens is officers go

too far, too fast, too long. they make errors in the way they applied force. that goes beyond safety practices. they will hold people down on the ground in a way where the people cannot breathe in their hearts unction properly. that is exactly what happened to george floyd. or they use their stun guns too many times for too long. >> is there a common thread about where this happens? who the victims are and why they are restrained? >> we found in a number of cases the location was actually the home of those who died. sometimes they were having medical emergencies. like potential drug overdoses.

their families were calling 911 to get medical assist and the police arrived. to try to control the person to get medical help, the police went too far. another thing we found is the toll fell hardest on black americans. even though they represent only 12% of the population, they were about a third of those who died. the last commonality we found was why they were in these situations. again it was until health crises , a lot of drugs, that is what brought them to the attention of law enforcement. reporter: you say about half of these cases, the role of the police is cited. for causing or contributing to the death. and the other cases, how they attribute these deaths? >> and a couple of ways.

some of these were attributed to a controversial label for a condition that some fix say is a way to justify passive force. it is meant to be a way to say someone is highly agitated. their heart is racing. they are sweating profusely. police and other people who subscribe to those say that is life-threatening. that is how it is used to shift the blame away from the wars. we found pre-existing medical conditions were blamed. or even their mental health problems. in other cases they legitimately had toxic levels of drugs in their systems. reporter: there has been so much focus on police shootings.

is there anyone who keeps track of these cases where nonlethal use of force in 70 -- -- ends up in a death? >> the department of justice has struggled for years to track them in an effective, complete way. the doj says that is partly because local police forces will not cooperate. the cdc tracks it nominally through mortality and death data. but that is not designed to capture everything so it does not. reporter: it sounds like a lot of these are instances where the officer goes too far or does it wrong way. is is basically a training problem? >> that is what some of the

experts tell us. many departments and many days get training right. they have instances where everyone gets out safe. everyone gets home at the end of the night. the experts told us that if they would chose to monitor dies or update or reassess what police and associations do, then maybe we would have fewer deaths. >> we should talk about officers going too far. are there examples you can cite? >> we had one example mentioned in an article yesterday where a text is man was shot up to 11 times with a taser. he was held in prone restraints.

his lungs were compressed. he was held that way for 22 minutes. george floyd was held down for almost 10 minutes. reporter: thank you very much. >> thank you. ♪ >> georgia was ground zero for the false claims of elections rod. and that state was decided by very few votes. it is in the spotlight again. new election laws could add additional complications for voters. >> in the final hours of the legislative session last night, georgia republicans faced a series of new rules that now head to the governor's desk.

among the changes, making it easier for challenging voter eligibility. expanding the use of paper ballots. and restricting who can serve as election work. we are walking through some of the changes. thank you so much for joining. let's start with some of the new rules. how they work? >> this is probably the most prominent change in the legislation. this comes after efforts from a handful of individuals to file challenges to the eligibility of thousands of voters. these new rules would basically lay out some specific grounds for sustaining some of these challenges. things like casting a ballot or claiming a homestead exemption in another state.

republican say these are guardrails to cut down on some superfluous challenges. democrats insist that these rules will only embolden individuals driven by conspiracy theories who are seeking to toss out thousands of voters. reporter: speaking of those who haven't been able and by conspiracy theories. there have been 100,000 challenges to voters in the last election law in 2021. only a few of those have been successful. what is the real impact of challenges like that? >> i think the biggest is that these challenges overburden an already overworked election office. georgia election law has been changed every year. each one of these challenges requires research and an adjudication process that an election staff has to deal with.

voters feel confused when they see their vote challenged. they know they have to go through hoops and hurdles to make sure they are able to vote. most of these challenges and the being tossed without probable cause. the secretary of state already does regular risk management. there not many people remaining on the roles who actually have grounds or removal. reporter: some republicans but mostly democrats have been concerned about third-party candidates in this election cycle. what is the change when it comes to third-party candidates and what you think the effect will be? >> this was a surprise measure that was tacked onto the sweeping bill at the last minute. i was surprised to see it when i was flipping through. i am still not sure exactly who

got it in there. or what their rationale was doing it. i think that they take away is that in 2020, the georgia presidential election was decided by just over 12,000 votes. if you have a third party on the ballot, they can certainly play a role in swaying which way the election goes in a tight race. this requires a third-party candidate to already be on the ballot and i think 20 other state. kennedy has not reached that threshold yet. reporter: conspiracy theory seven lies about election fraud have been prevalent in georgia. do you think this new piece of legislation will actually quell any concerns for voters? >> i think this is a really important point. since the 2020 election we have seen several attempts to of eyes georgia -- revised georgia election law. these moves have been driven by

false claims about election fraud that have persisted several years on. we heard from one democratic lawmaker who said this is like negotiating with terrorists. people that no matter how neat changes you make to georgia election law will never be satisfied as long as he's conspiracy theories continue to persist. it ends up being a bit of a vicious cycle. these next elections will continue to test the staying power of some of these false claims. that really emerged in the lead up to the election and are still with us today. reporter: >> thank you for your time. thanks so much. ♪ >> in oklahoma, there will be a

recall election next tuesday over allegations of racism and white supremacy. a commissioner was confronted at eight candidate forum by residents without him for his alleged ties to a white nationalist group. the small town is sharply divided. i smoke -- spoke to our community advisor. go back to the start. he has only been in office for about a year. was any of his past association known before he was elected? >> when he was running for this spot, make some part of the city council, the local newspaper. that is the main route. that he is alleged to have been

a part of. he attended a rally in charleston. when confronted by citizens, he had no comment. he would not deny he was part of one of these groups. >> who started the current recall effort to get him out of office? >> it was started by a social justice committee. it is a group of citizens concerned about his election. i spoke to a couple of members of this group. they are lifelong citizens. they confronted him and held up a huge side that showed him at the rally in charlottesville holding a tiki torch and asked him if it was him. he did not answer the questions. in fact, he ran away from them. >> if it walks like a dock and

quacks like a duck, it is a duck. that is not name-calling. i was going on facebook and i went to a certain facebook page and i went under comments. i saw his picture. i was petrified that we had a city councilman who had been at charlottesville. so i started digging. i posted pictures. we started a campaign against him. >> that group ended up collecting hundreds of signatures to initiate the recall. >> has he answered questions about this or said anything recently about these association? >> for the longest time he would not confirm or deny if he was a member of these groups. or a white nationalist. this past week at a forum, he

did confirm that he attended that rally in charlottesville. he gave this reason as to why he felt like he needed to attend. >> i needed to protest the removal of those statues. they could move on to whoever they wanted. on defending or protecting or protesting against the removal of historical americans is important to me. it is our heritage. it is who we are. >> he was announced to -- as to denounce white nationalism he said he could not have what he never was. >> what do people say this means for their community? >> they are embarrassed. and they are petrified that will

be reelected. folks are worried about how the city will attract businesses. and their ongoing relationship with an air force base. >> if someone were to look at this and say it was one small city council in oklahoma, what is the larger connection to the white nationalist movement in this country? >> i talked with an expert on white nationalism in the u.s. who started studying it after the economist of the bombing. he said white nationalists were emboldened after the election of donald trump. getting into local elections has been a goal of theirs. >> the danger of having white supremacists holding local office is this is part of their agenda in terms of day being

able to implement and execute various strategies. and plans. that is a larger plan on the horizon for them. there are smaller steps that can happen. having people hold a local office can help them achieve that goal. >> he said that br getting into local elections and winning them , there is the threat of normalizing white supremacy. >> thank you for >> >> this great reporting. ♪ thank you. ♪ >> a stock market debut could

get trumped billions. we turn to the analysis of our guests. so nice to see you. thank you for being here. let's talk about this money raised going on. -- race going on. biden had an event at radio city music hall. apparently the most lucrative event in american political history. does this money matter? especially when you are running against the master of free media? >> not at all. those people wasted millions of dollars. money matters in politics it you have no name recognition. but once you hit a certain threshold, it doesn't matter.

people are not noticing. it is doubly true this time because donald trump and joe biden have been president before. hilly clinton spent twice as much as donald trump did and he still beat her. if you think people who run tv stations don't have enough revenue and one a -- want to put more money in their pockets, give to those stations. >> it absolutely matters. you are focused on television and in pain adds. that money is being used to open campaign offices around the country in key districts. it is about hiring staff. putting boots on the ground to get out the vote. that is where the money is most needed and most important. especially in a presidential election that will be determined by which side gets its people out to vote.

the biting campaign likes the position they are in having a fundraising advantage over donald trump. >> it certainly seems that is something that you want rather than being at the other end of that ratio. both sides have studied those. there is this long-running debate. most political candidates think they can get some money, they can win. >> i want to ask about truth social on the stock market. what do you make of this? the economic fundamentals do not strong. and yet it shows up on the stock market like it is the great thing. >> a lot of companies have those

kinds of market valuations. but this is out of control. you are seeing who is investing in this. it is individual investors. you have people who just like trump and they want to give him money. there are some people who think it will actually start making money. but it looks like a wraparound to give donald trump and his campaign a lot of money. which it seems to be doing. >> there are campaign-finance restrictions because we don't like the idea of people hitting a wheelbarrow full of cash to the next president. there is one billionaire investor who has put a lot of money into tiktok and now has put a lot of money into donald trump's new company. those ethical questions do not go away. >> they do not, but when you are donald trump, do you care? you can show him all the rules

and say you are pushing this or that norm or that rule. to him, what does he care? he will push the envelope and do what he wants to do and then he will sit back and watch the process play itself out. he will continue to live his life as it was before. what is your next question? [laughter] >> i want to talk about what happened with ronna mcdaniel. for those who are not following this, she was hired by nbc to be an on air contributor. she is the former chairperson of the republican national committee. there was a revolt amongst many nbc anchors who said, we cannot have somebody who actively tried to undo the last election be on our payroll and bnr airwaves. what do you make of how that played out? >> i'm glad they had the instinct to get more trump supporting people on the air. that is something we all need to

look at. you have to have some intellectual disability. some primary commitment to the truth. i don't go as far as that. i do think there is a difference between being a politico and what we do. we represent the truth. there are people who have gone from being a politico to being a journalist. that strikes me as a gigantic mistake. >> you are an employee of nbc.

at an anchor on that show. >> that hiring wasn't nbc news hiring. i wrote in response, she will never be on my show. this not a partisan issue. this is a democracy issue. the role trump is playing at putting our democracy at risk. to have someone come on my show where first or foremost, whoever is watching, i have the duty to present the facts. the privilege i have is to say

what i think about those facts that i have reported. it would do the show no good and by viewers no favors. it would be a disservice to put somebody on like ronna mcdaniel. i have to say, our president made it very clear after it was announced, you have editorial independence. you don't choose who comes on or not. i knew that. that is what the leadership is like there. i agree completely.

how do you represent this slice of the country? it is very difficult to have a conversation. >> there were tons of working-class guys when i started. but they had no college degree. over the course of decades, it became that you had to have a college degree. so we are slicing off a majority of the country. so those people felt their voices were not heard. then there is a populist revolt. they don't want to live up to the standards of honesty. we will disrespect the truth. there are people out there who are good journalists and support donald trump.

they are out there. we just have to work harder to find them. so that their voices are heard. >> would you have had ronna mcdaniel on as a guest? i know some issue is she is being paid by my organization. she is one of us. but you are us to -- open to people talking? >> i will not have someone on air who tells me that two plus two equals five. that is that they're minimum. there is no evidence that the 2020 election was: from anyone. if you don't meet that, there is nobody -- no reason for me to be having you on my show. i had asa hutchinson on my show twice. he was running for president.

i asked him to basic questions, where are you on these issues. it was my first time asking him these questions. if you're going to come on my show, you know where i am coming. then we talked about policy. you can disagree on policy. that is part of the process. >> the passing of joe lieberman has brought out thoughts and feelings about whether moderates have a teacher. i know you knew him well. 10 you tell us about him smart >> there is a tradition in judaism where the husband is supposed to sing a song. most of us do not like to hear ourselves saying. but joe lieberman would saying -- sing it to his wife. he was a sweet guy.

>> i did not know the senator that well. as a journalist here in washington, he would come in for important meetings. just an all-around decent person. he was in the job for all the right reasons. try to do the right thing. what was best for the party and best for the country. when al gore chose him to be his vice presidential running mate, that was a huge moment. for him and for the country. senator lieberman was the first jewish-american nominee of any party. for me, that will be his legacy. >> so nice to see you. thank you for being here. ♪ >> beyonce has just dropped her

latest album. it has quickly become one of the most talked about records of the year. we have more on how this superstars new work is deeply rooted in country music. >> if it is beyonce, it is big. if it is venturing into an unexpected arena of music, it is even bigger. ♪ it checks both of those boxes and feature some of country music's biggest stars. thank you so much for joining us. beyonce herself said recently, this is not a country album, it is a beyonce album. but she is going into the country music world. what do you see going on? >> beyonce vaguely referenced performing at the 2016 country music awards. how unwelcome she felt in that

space. even though the performance was the highest rated segment of the show's history. it was still pulled down from the website. as well as their social media because people were so outraged that she performed. here you have this album that is very vast and experimental. almost 80 minutes long. she reimagines country music and her own way. she puts her own spin on what country means to her. >> she said that caused her to take a deeper dive into the history of country music. tell us more about what you hear. what kind of sounds and what kind of people are looted? >> she pays homage to the first commercially successful black person in history. also the first black woman to perform at the grand ole opry.

she is introducing certain songs on the record and talks about john rose and how confining they can be. dolly parton makes an appearance. beyonce covers one of her songs. ♪ dolly said she would love for beyonce to do this. she would make it as big as whitney houston made another one of her song. >> this does play into country music softly and difficult history with black musicians and women not getting a lot of airplay. what is the thinking on how much impact beyonce can have? >> she already made history when her song became the first by a woman to top the country charts.

people are buying their music because beyonce gave them that cosign and that push. i am interested to see when it comes to awards season how it will be recognized. >> she keeps having new surprises. where you see her going? where's all of this coming from? >> what drives beyonce is the element of surprise. every project she does is very unpredictable. you don't know what you will get but you will get a history lesson. she keeps music exciting, regardless of the genre. she pays homage to disco music. from a black female perspective. >> she clearly knows she has the power to get attention. >> absolutely. whether it is visual or the way she uses language, or lyricism,

she knows how to captivate her audience. and she makes everyone feel welcome. when it comes to not only heard music but her shows as well. that has been liberating for all types of people. >> the album is out today. thank you very much. >> thank you. ♪ >> be sure to tune in later tonight for a look at the stark contrast between the biden and trump campaigns. this weekend, the next in our series, america's safety net. what is at stake for millions of americans on medicaid as states reevaluate how they offer health insurance.

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