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>> there is no way that jack smith is going to succeed to the jury instructions. if he does, the case is over. secondly, it's a head, trump wins, tells, his losing. there is no way he will let that happen. the problem is judge cannon did not issue an order here of jury instructions. just said parties, i want you to engage in the following scenarios. it's loose enough that i think it's not enough for jack smith to go directly to the 11th circuit yet. what will happen is jack smith is going to push back and say hey, what you are doing here is really erroneous. your interpretation under the presidential records act is wrong and you need to think about this again. rethink what you just did. if she won't, we will take the extraordinary step. i do think the 11th circuit going to reverse, repudiate. dropped the case entirely. >> you are there in palm beach. what are you hearing from folks about judge cannons case in the handling of donald trump? >> people think it's appalling, what has been happening. they're very anti-cannon. trump's biggest supporters silent about it o
>> there is no way that jack smith is going to succeed to the jury instructions. if he does, the case is over. secondly, it's a head, trump wins, tells, his losing. there is no way he will let that happen. the problem is judge cannon did not issue an order here of jury instructions. just said parties, i want you to engage in the following scenarios. it's loose enough that i think it's not enough for jack smith to go directly to the 11th circuit yet. what will happen is jack smith is going...
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jack smith is saying, wait a minute. not only were these not your own personal property, this is some of the most sensitive military information, reportedly including even nuclear secrets. >> classify, exactly. news book reports that jack smith is set to fire language coded briefs, if you well. so the public cannot learn the names of the witnesses for fear they could be put in harm's way. could judge cannon decide she wants the names unredacted. >> reporter: ciardi has decided and that is when jack smith went nuclear. we don't see him making any kind of statements. his expression in the courtroom when the judge was thinking about making the names public, he was apocalyptic. he says what we all know that when people were trying to hold trump accountable and their names were made public. terrible things happen to them. there is 24 witnesses who trump wants to hold -- wants to have the whole world know. jack said, it is just wrong, even on the lot but even on the cases the judge sites to support her rolling don't say what s
jack smith is saying, wait a minute. not only were these not your own personal property, this is some of the most sensitive military information, reportedly including even nuclear secrets. >> classify, exactly. news book reports that jack smith is set to fire language coded briefs, if you well. so the public cannot learn the names of the witnesses for fear they could be put in harm's way. could judge cannon decide she wants the names unredacted. >> reporter: ciardi has decided and...
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how unusual are these orders and has she put jack smith between a rock and a hard place? >> her instructions are incredibly unusual. she's giving jury instructions without a trial date really putting the cart before the horse. you generally deal with pretrial motions first and jury instructions were later. her instructions are based on this faulty premise that donald trump's designation of records under the presidential records act matters. it doesn't. he is charged with violating the espionage act. the espionage act replies -- applies regardless whether the records he had were categorized as personal or presidential. even if he had designated these as personal records, he is still not authorized. nothing in the presidential records act authorizes a former president to possess classified information. you have this terrible proposed jury instruction to completely confuse the jury. you have her ruling to unseal the identities of witnesses. that's another terrible one. you have her refusal to dismiss outright a challenge that the espionage act is fake which it isn't. donald
how unusual are these orders and has she put jack smith between a rock and a hard place? >> her instructions are incredibly unusual. she's giving jury instructions without a trial date really putting the cart before the horse. you generally deal with pretrial motions first and jury instructions were later. her instructions are based on this faulty premise that donald trump's designation of records under the presidential records act matters. it doesn't. he is charged with violating the...
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that is why jack smith is saying these aargue. s designed to delay the trial. >> the stormy danielles hush money case, will the consequences be a slap on the wrist for trump? >> i don't think so. you have to remember this same conduct was charged federally by the southern district of new york. and michael cohen was charged and convicted with exiting federal election fraud. and he served three years in prison for that. here are the charges are that donald trump falsified business records but in order to conceal or commit that same federal election law violation as well as violating other laws, l. again he could face prison time. somebody has. these are serious charges and should not be underestimated. >> yesterday, ty cobb was not impressed with trump in the new york civil cases. will trump keep his attorney on the team? >> if the civil cases where she is on all of the briefings for appeal he added another lawyer an appellate lawyer the same lawyer who argued in the dc immunity appeal. and so he has added lawyers but as of now, ali
that is why jack smith is saying these aargue. s designed to delay the trial. >> the stormy danielles hush money case, will the consequences be a slap on the wrist for trump? >> i don't think so. you have to remember this same conduct was charged federally by the southern district of new york. and michael cohen was charged and convicted with exiting federal election fraud. and he served three years in prison for that. here are the charges are that donald trump falsified business...
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do you think jack smith is going to do it? when she says something like i want you to consider this, does she have to? >> i think he has to comply with the order. he will get an order back from the court about jury instructions. very unusual this early in the case. there is not even a trial date set. then he will have an appealable order. >> is this putting the cart in front of the horse? there is no trial date set yet. >> this is completely putting the cart for the horse. there is no trial date yet. the judge is signaling, as she has signal from the get-go she does not believe in the case and does not believe it is warranted. she is stacking the deck in favor of the defendant. >> is there anything jack smith can do to get this moving along? >> he has successfully appealed prior orders to the appellate court and the appellate court has on multiple occasions reversed this judge. i would expect if there is an order on these jury instructions, as she is already signaling he will go right back to the appellate court. >> let's move
do you think jack smith is going to do it? when she says something like i want you to consider this, does she have to? >> i think he has to comply with the order. he will get an order back from the court about jury instructions. very unusual this early in the case. there is not even a trial date set. then he will have an appealable order. >> is this putting the cart in front of the horse? there is no trial date set yet. >> this is completely putting the cart for the horse....
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jack smith in a new response shreds trumps immunity claims in the classified documents case, calling them frivolous and outlandish. do you think smith's filing is a preview of what he plans to argue before the supreme court in april, even though there are two different cases here? >> so, they are two different cases, and they deal with two different moments in donald trump's tenure as a president and as a former president. so, the events of january 6th, clearly during the course or the end of donald trump's presidency, whereas the mar-a- lago documents case, most of the action there takes place after donald trump is no longer president. that is a really important question for the issue of presidential immunity, because again, the idea that presidents enjoy immunization from legal liability is really because they need to have the time and not be distracted by legal processes while they are actually functioning is present. so the claims of immunity are not as strong in circumstances where the action took place after the presidency was over. donald trump is arguing, though, that in the
jack smith in a new response shreds trumps immunity claims in the classified documents case, calling them frivolous and outlandish. do you think smith's filing is a preview of what he plans to argue before the supreme court in april, even though there are two different cases here? >> so, they are two different cases, and they deal with two different moments in donald trump's tenure as a president and as a former president. so, the events of january 6th, clearly during the course or the...
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here is what our colleague joyce vance says could be a problem for jack smith. let's watch. >> this is a judge who refused to rule on trump's motion to dismiss the case because of the presidential records act but has now given us reason to believe that she is, in fact, accepting that defense and we have to be concerned that if this case does go to trial, judge eileen cannon will take it away from the jury and dismissed charges against donald trump. if she decides to dismiss the case before the jury renders a verdict, the case is over. >> many experts believe smith should try to get cannon off the case. what are his options? >> i think recusing judge cannon requires more than just believing that she is in the tank for donald trump. to joyce's point. i think the jury instructions that were asked to deliver this week are odd and suggest that she could dismiss the case posttrial which would prevent the government from trying the case again. on the other hand, i do not think that eric is a motion at this is likely to succeed if the government were to make one at all.
here is what our colleague joyce vance says could be a problem for jack smith. let's watch. >> this is a judge who refused to rule on trump's motion to dismiss the case because of the presidential records act but has now given us reason to believe that she is, in fact, accepting that defense and we have to be concerned that if this case does go to trial, judge eileen cannon will take it away from the jury and dismissed charges against donald trump. if she decides to dismiss the case...
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i want to read for you what the new york times is reporting about jack smith. she asked about when smith was going to present the prosecution list. the new york times wrote this -- smith in particular seems shocked by the question and sat up stiff lee in the well of the courtroom, his eyes gone wide in apparent incredulity. there has been a lot of talk specifically in judge aileen cannon's courtroom about -- and other pretrial motions as well in which they talk about the potential harassment of prosecution witnesses. i am wondering if you feel like that is what was playing into this report from the new york times about jack smith's incredulity. >> it sounds like so. they have already requested that some names be withheld from the fence until absolutely necessary. we know that donald trump just has a history of attacking witnesses and prosecutors and judges and juries, so that could be one reason. also, we know that everyone was waiting for a trial date to be announced and one was not at all. there's really no clarity when that case will start. i know there's a
i want to read for you what the new york times is reporting about jack smith. she asked about when smith was going to present the prosecution list. the new york times wrote this -- smith in particular seems shocked by the question and sat up stiff lee in the well of the courtroom, his eyes gone wide in apparent incredulity. there has been a lot of talk specifically in judge aileen cannon's courtroom about -- and other pretrial motions as well in which they talk about the potential harassment of...
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there was a date proposed by jack smith's team of july eight. trump's team said august 12th, but really, we don't want to happen until after the election. where are we on things? >> it seemed like a lot of people had written off this trial potentially happening before the election, given the judges maneuvering here previously. her previous rulings, you know, in this, case just the entire way they approach this case has left people skeptical about what actually happened before the election. they thought maybe this could get on the books like what happened with the other jack smith case given that that's going to get bumped back. you know, i think the trump team pretty reluctantly brought forward that august date potentially. but i was skeptical about that actually being operational, if they're actually going to get -- before the actual election here. >> i would echo that sentiment, considering i was in palm beach yesterday. with, that dave, i'm coming to you spending some time in your neck of the woods. so, there was talk of the 60-day rule. just
there was a date proposed by jack smith's team of july eight. trump's team said august 12th, but really, we don't want to happen until after the election. where are we on things? >> it seemed like a lot of people had written off this trial potentially happening before the election, given the judges maneuvering here previously. her previous rulings, you know, in this, case just the entire way they approach this case has left people skeptical about what actually happened before the...
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i do think it should be called the hush money trial because the jack smith case, the big federal case- and this is of course in new york. this is not a federal case. the big federal case is about the coup attempt to interfere in the election and take over the government this case is about 2016 election. by shutting up stormy daniels and paid her off, he prevented a revelation that very likely would have cost him that election against hillary clinton. you have to remember the timing of this, which is that there have been "access hollywood" revelation. which sent trump reeling. he recovered from that and the spotlight shifted to hillary and stories about her emails. if the stormy daniels story had come out right on top of the "access hollywood" story, there is nobody in either party that believes donald trump could have survived that. allegedly, if you look at the evidence, he quite clearly broke the law in pretending that he was paying michael cohen was legal services -- for his legal services when michael cohen was pain stormy daniels $130,000 to stay quiet. >> when the scandal broke
i do think it should be called the hush money trial because the jack smith case, the big federal case- and this is of course in new york. this is not a federal case. the big federal case is about the coup attempt to interfere in the election and take over the government this case is about 2016 election. by shutting up stormy daniels and paid her off, he prevented a revelation that very likely would have cost him that election against hillary clinton. you have to remember the timing of this,...
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and contrast to the things that he said about jack smith. they're attacking his professional acumen. the other is their humanity and qualifications. all of those things are rooted in white nationalism and speak to the very point that willis was making about that intersection of race and gender. >> thank you for that well spoken reality check. i appreciate you and all of that. thank you, charles coleman. >> raking news from russia. numbers that you may not believe. >>> plus it cost $7 million and it made a lot of people mad. ma. >>> now the woman who helped pay for this rfk jr. campaign at might find her name at the top of the ticket here we are back in the seconds. seconds. that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business
and contrast to the things that he said about jack smith. they're attacking his professional acumen. the other is their humanity and qualifications. all of those things are rooted in white nationalism and speak to the very point that willis was making about that intersection of race and gender. >> thank you for that well spoken reality check. i appreciate you and all of that. thank you, charles coleman. >> raking news from russia. numbers that you may not believe. >>> plus...
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first and foremost is the argument, essentially, jack smith is making, that the american people have the right to see this through before they go and cast their votes in november. the second is what i'm picking up from voters, especially republican voters, some of whom are saying well, i'm supporting, for instance, donald trump and i say, are you concerned about his legal troubles? are you concerned about his 90 plus indictments? and they say well, he hasn't been convicted yet. so, i ask them a follow-up, and i say, what if he is convicted? they say, well, that might change my mind. if we don't see a single trial from start to finish, except for the hush money case, how do you think that's going to change the game for him? >> well, this is a lot to unpack, because it depends on which case we're talking about. when we talk about georgia, we see what trump and his team are doing there to fani willis, essentially putting her on trial. that's been a whole lot of wow, that's changed a lot of minds in the circles i've talked to about the r.i.c.o. charges trump faces there. a lot of people
first and foremost is the argument, essentially, jack smith is making, that the american people have the right to see this through before they go and cast their votes in november. the second is what i'm picking up from voters, especially republican voters, some of whom are saying well, i'm supporting, for instance, donald trump and i say, are you concerned about his legal troubles? are you concerned about his 90 plus indictments? and they say well, he hasn't been convicted yet. so, i ask them a...
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smith's team prosecuting lawyers, attorneys, they -- for a july trial, date july 12th i believe. as i was thinking about, it i thought that if for instance judge aileen cannon or to choose july, let's say, that would mean absolutely tanya chutkan's trial would likely not go forward because of the overlap we would see. and my seeing this wrong? or could there still be room for tanya chutkan? i was curious as to why his team was advocating for that july trial date if they really wanted to try the d.c. trial first. >> right. so i think that july trial date presupposes what the supreme court will not decide the presidential immunity appeal until say, the first week of july, then trump gets three months to preparation for trial. so i think that is the assumption there but look, there are a lot of moving pieces. just because judge cannon set a trial, she did not seem inclined to go with the governments july suggestion. but if she, did that date still wouldn't be written in stone. all sorts of things could come up, where that trial date might not hold, and so at this point it is really
smith's team prosecuting lawyers, attorneys, they -- for a july trial, date july 12th i believe. as i was thinking about, it i thought that if for instance judge aileen cannon or to choose july, let's say, that would mean absolutely tanya chutkan's trial would likely not go forward because of the overlap we would see. and my seeing this wrong? or could there still be room for tanya chutkan? i was curious as to why his team was advocating for that july trial date if they really wanted to try the...
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that goes to the point could jack smith now move to recuse her? it is hard. i think by divine she hasn't given how much to hold onto. she has asked them to engage in this academic discussion that is irrelevant and assumes completely wrong fax. you know, they are just talking. i think it is by design something that is hard for smith to take up. if he doesn't give her what she wants as she enters an order that the end might eventuate an appeal. i think it is not easy right now to grab onto something the 11th circuit can say you messed up again. you are out. >> i want to go back to the hush money case. you talk about election interference, you didn't use those exact words, but how important is the vernacular around this? i was talking with another journalist about this yesterday, the fact that it is called the hush money case. but the reality is why was it a hush money case? well to not put this information out there prior to the election. election interference. do you think attorneys and the judge are looking at that particular case under the guise of election
that goes to the point could jack smith now move to recuse her? it is hard. i think by divine she hasn't given how much to hold onto. she has asked them to engage in this academic discussion that is irrelevant and assumes completely wrong fax. you know, they are just talking. i think it is by design something that is hard for smith to take up. if he doesn't give her what she wants as she enters an order that the end might eventuate an appeal. i think it is not easy right now to grab onto...
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the jack smith trial that is what they are determined to push that down the line. >> you both know we can do an entire hour talking about the donald trump trials. it is simply converging with actions and a lot to keep track of. i thank you for doing so. good to see you joyce and hugo. >>> coming up, the biggest question about donald trump's truth social mergers. msnbc political analyst tim o'brien will talk with us about that. >>> you know the song the rolling stones' " you cannot always get what you want . and they say but you can get what you need. they also say about someone getting their fair share of abuse. does this tie into what happened on capitol hill the past day? oh, yeah. stories next. stories next. when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd, things changed for me. breztri gave me better breathing, symptom improvement, and reduced flare—ups. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may
the jack smith trial that is what they are determined to push that down the line. >> you both know we can do an entire hour talking about the donald trump trials. it is simply converging with actions and a lot to keep track of. i thank you for doing so. good to see you joyce and hugo. >>> coming up, the biggest question about donald trump's truth social mergers. msnbc political analyst tim o'brien will talk with us about that. >>> you know the song the rolling stones'...
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jack smith has asked for a date of july 8th. we think trump's team has asked for august 12. although now there isn't even clarity over that. even if a trial is scheduled in that case for the summer of 2024, that is not a guarantee that the trial actually take place. trial dates are not set in stone by any stretch of the imagination. there are a number of things that could happen before any trial date that might result in judge cannon putting off the trial yet again. having a trial date before november 24th ignores the likelihood that a trial will take several weeks or even months. -- the jury deliberations, how long will. take it just seems unlikely. when -- if you aren't judge and you are trying to get a case to move efficiency you have to do it in a certain way. we have to say this is what i think should happen it's now a heavy burden on the party to see that happen. it's not the kind of action we are seeing from judge cannon. >> trump was in court yesterday, he didn't have to be there. he was very calm, cool, collected. did not speak out. attorney really speak at all. did
jack smith has asked for a date of july 8th. we think trump's team has asked for august 12. although now there isn't even clarity over that. even if a trial is scheduled in that case for the summer of 2024, that is not a guarantee that the trial actually take place. trial dates are not set in stone by any stretch of the imagination. there are a number of things that could happen before any trial date that might result in judge cannon putting off the trial yet again. having a trial date before...