but i don't i never want to like it's not just nra like a lot of people in this state have a deep conviction about the belief in the second gun. right. you can't skirt around that. the only alternative is to persuade people and organize and change consensus and in the case of the moment we're in right now, may very well reduce to voting. it does. are we done? we are done. sorry. we have a time constraint. please give our guest a big thank you all so much. thank you very much. being so my first interest section is dr. peniel joseph. dr. is the barbara jordan chair of ethics and political value, the founding director for the center of the study, race and democracy. the associate justice i'm sorry, the associate of justice, equity, diversity and at the lbj school of public affairs, as well as a of history at the university of texas. in his time, peniel is frequent national commentator on issues of race democracy and civil rights. he is the author of award winning books on african-american history to. i'll give you the names of one is the sword, the shield, the revolutionary, three lives of malc